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I'm sorry, but this take on the Pistons it's really off the mark. 1- Coaching staff NEEDS to be held accountable in large part for this. Monty had no desire to coach and he's showing it clearly. He plays bad line-ups and seems like he's just bidding his time until he gets fired just so he can enjoy that money for his contract sitting confortably at home in his couch. I mean, playing Stewart at the 4? Really? Anyone with eyes can see it's an absolute atrocity. Plus, Monty is known for getting into conflicts with young players and robbing them of their confidence. The shit he did in Phoenix is the same shit he's doing now with Ivey and Ausar. It's just shameful to watch. 2- The front office also needs to be held accountable as well, for trying to force a coach who didn't want the job into getting it, plus making some of the dumbest acquisitions in recent years, like Bagley and Wiseman. They are piss poor players whom their teams soon found out that they were not NBA caliber players and sought to dump them at the first chance they got to any idiot who would have them, which in this case was the Detroit Pistons. They have one pretty decent Center in Duren and then 3 others who are just plain terrible. There is no other way to say this other than this is just a perfect example of what piss poor management looks like. 3- The lack of shooting to provide floor spacing for Cade to operate is another great example at how bad this roster has been assembled. Some people have been taking shots at Cade claiming that maybe he isn't all that good. Guess what, he's the second player in the NBA who suffers more Blitzes, only being topped by Luka. That's how much the other teams don't really respect the remaining squad as it is constructed and quickly realized that if they're able to stop Cade there's nothing the rest of the team can do. Are we really pretending that teams are concerned with guys like Hayes and Stewart when they're sharing the court at the same time as Cade? You just need to watch a game to realise that they just don't care. Yes, lack of confidence as hit them hard and they're having a hard time getting over the hump, but the main fault is the poor management decisions on roster construction and the absolutely terrible coaching that we're being forced to witness.

I get the sinking feeling that when Monty told the Pistons that he really "didn't want to coach" this year - that he was telling the truth. It seems like in record time under Monty's tutelage this young core has completely lost its confidence - lost its focus and lost any hope for the future.

The pistons have become the team no one wants to lose to as well.

I believe these players have given up on Monty and are actively trying to get him fired.

It's definitely the coach. You can tell he doesn't like his players, doesn't care about the city, and isn't passionate enough about his team. The front office literally said he came for the money and job security. I think he needs a good kick to the butt. Hopefully there is some provisions in his contract to get rid of him

As a fan, this season feels like a fever dream.

Monty killed this team.

Man as a a rockets fan our fanbases were in the trenches together and I really felt a sense of camaraderie with my pistons tank brothers. Now I have survivors guilt whenever I look at box scores

Hmm, don’t you have to blame the coaching staff for the psychology of the team?

Fire the coach & GM! I am a huge Pistons fan and this sucks The last decade has been hard for every Detroit team for every major sport tigers, Red Wings lions.

This is the problem with the full rebuild. As a Chicago Blackhawks fan, I fear the team coming to the arena expecting to lose every night. It’s no fun, it brings out the worst in everybody in the locker room, and you risk harming the development of your young prospects. Top prospects will likely have no experience losing all the time, and doing it in the pro spotlight will be terrible for the players’ confidence. And when you’re trying to make it as a pro, what’s more important than confidence?

A team's psyche is 100% the responsibility of the coach, especially on such a young team. Monty should decide if he actually wants to coach or give the money back and step down.

Monty will get paid regardless now. He didn't want to coach but he couldn't turn down 70 million dollars. He's the coach by name but he isn't coaching or developing them.

Its clearly coaching. Everytime I see Detroit bring the ball up and 7 seconds into the shot clock someone passes the ball to Isaiah Stewart for a stop & pop 3, I instantly throw up from how much they all STINK!!!

Listening to you while watching a brick compilation is hilarious. As a Toronto fan (who is just waiting for my team to be blown up), I watch Detroit games (and media) for the schadenfreude of watching history be made in the worst possible way. Question for you though: How long is this streak going to last in your opinion?

If it is psychological. I blame it on the coaching staff.

Everyday i hope i can get those 5 free wingstop wings 😭

Troy Weaver wasted 3 years of the rebuild and got a lot worse tbh.

and of course the Bulls are one of 2 teams they've beaten so far lmao

Being a Pistons fan myself is rough 😕

The need a coach that can develop young talent.

Them not having their vets in the lineup hurts a young team who's trying to figure out what it takes to win night in and night out! I would've like to see how they would've started out if they had Joe Harris, Monte Morris, and Bogdanavic from the start of the season!!

Detroit and Monty Williams need to negotiate a buyout. That will solve lots of problems. Plus other coaches will not demand outrageous salaries when interviewing for a coaching job.

They need to play Ausar more. I don't care if he fouls out. Play him as much as possible. The kid has a motor and is one of your best defenders. 18 minutes a game is WAY too low.

media pundits aren't a good metric for what real ppl think lol i dont think anyone really thought the pistons would be anything this year

When the coach tells you he didn’t want to come or be there, please believe them. Monty is the problem!

it’s definitely the coaching staff and front office to blame for this

I think by far the biggest issue the pistons are facing is the rotations. After about 5 minutes to start every game, we sub in the entire bench for another 5 minutes. No starters - zero. None. This puts us in a 15-25 point hole every single time we do it, because our bench players are not NBA caliber talents. That is the biggest problem - the spiral is real, but the rotations are the real killer.

It’s part of the process. I’ve seen 17-win teams with a lot less talents turn it around. The good news is they have a lot of young talents. Now it’s a matter of finding the right players to match the young talents.

You said it isn't the front offices fault but it is. Just like every small market team your job is to put butts in seats. And in the process of being "SORRY" you get lucky in the draft. It's just like Philly all those tanking years. Just "Trust The Process"

Very insightful. More breaking news: water is wet. It is obvious t hey are mentally in a trench. The questions are how did this happen, given the expectations, and how do they get out?

It's honestly a bad perfect storm. Horrible injury luck to key guys since the start of the season, great parity with no one actively tanking, and possibly the wrong coach. I don't doubt the talent on this team (the reason for the solid projections before the year started) but it's snowballed at this point and it's difficult to watch. I think it's a bad idea to fire Troy Weaver because most of the moves have been good. Monty really needs to do something to get this turned around but I'd evaluate that at season's end. Of course we're all outside looking in so we don't actually KNOW what's going on.

On a team where the majority of players have come from winning teams and championships in High School and College. Going into such an environment of consistent losing, can have a devastating toll on ones mental health and long term abilities. Like a man who has been constantly rejected on Tinder dates over and over, the results are traumatic. You can see the look of, okay guys so how badly are we going to lose tonight? is the ultimate Seinfeld mentality of Serenity Now

Who is going to make the playoffs first lions or pistons

Calling jaden Ivey a steal in present day is blasphemy

I'm a Rockets fan so I understand. I think it's a mixture of being young, the right kind of vets, Cade is a stud but he hasn't played in 2 years and nowhere close to his full potential.

I can't believe u said it's not Troy Weaver or the over paid and over rated Monty Williams. They both play a MAJOR role in this historically bad team. You can talk physique as the main reason, but this team was constructed terribly. Besides Cunningham and Bogdanovic none of the Pistons starters would start for any other NBA team. I could break down every player, but there's not enough room on this comment sheet.

Free Bojan

I really hope the pistons break the record

This losing streak only makes HC Monty's win-loss record looks bad. These kids need veterans to guide them. Having Bojan Bogdanovic and Joe Harris is not enough

You can’t be a title contender if you can never even sniff the conference finals.

You have to at least TRY to play D in order to win in the league..almost nobody plays good D on this team

As a Pistons fan this is cap, this is Monty’s and more so the front offices fault. This team is constructed bad, we literally have no wings, we have no shooting and have no centers that can defend. You draft a guy with the #1 pick and don’t even construct a team around him that compliments his play style. You draft a guy at #5 and then keep him on the bench because he doesn’t “play defense” and then go on to have the worse defense in the league with him on the bench. You play Hayes like he has compromising pictures of you and then to cap it off you have a coach that literally said he only came here for the money lol.

There is some very bad coaching associated with this team, so I disagree. First of all, 3 point shooting at this level involves motor memory. There is something wrong with their practices. If I had to guess, I would say, there is just not a total emphasis on shooting....too much coaching, as in over coaching. Secondly is that they really don't play defense. Look at the distance between the piston players and the opposing players out in the 3 point area. We are late to guard and don't know how to guard closely. It is weird, but I blame this on the coaching. If someone gets around a piston, he then basically is free to drive to the hoop or pick up a foul, their rotation is terrible. Jaden Ivy does not know how to make a pull up shot and he only drives to his right. He is blocked at the basket routinely. If you took away his lay-ups, you would see a player who cannot score. He is not improving. He needs to develop other shots or he needs to sit. Our tallest player, James Wiseman is told never to drive to the basket. After giving a block, he often stands back, rarely is available for the pick and role....as important, he needs to shoot the 3 point shot. He has a shot. He needs to drive and they need to pass to him. Marcus Sasser, should start as the second guard. They should pass to Ausar Thompson more so that he can be more involved in the offense...........................my point is, coaching sucks. The coach is not making our players better, he is making them scared and they are not playing for him. Consider why he was fired in his last job.

Young studs? Pls show me who is stud? Marvin Bagley III, James Wiseman, they can't even be bench players on other teams... Jaden Ivey, he isn't starter on this team... Isaiah Stewart, Killian Hayes are just bad. Alec Burks, Joe Harris WTF are they still in the league? They are all bad players and yes this is front office fault, mostly. When I remember Pistons vs Lakers finals, my God how good it was C. Billups, R. Wallace, B. Wallace, T. Prince, R. Hamilton... I've got tears in my eyes.

Great video, but as a fan of this team, you’re forgetting one thing. Ownership. Tom Gores is a horrible owner and us fans would rather have the likes of James Dolan, Glen Taylor, and Robert Sarver. The state of this team’s management makes Bill Davidson roll over in his grave.

It's because the brought back the teal jerseys back last year and that has still cursed this year.

This dude really said it’s not the coaching or front office. Sir what in the hell are you talking about? This is literally the worst built roster in the league, and Monty is not putting players in advantageous positions, he just throws Ivey in the corner for twenty minutes. Ivey is one of the most explosive play makers on the team plus he starts Kilian Hayes over him and plays him more.

The Pistons aren't bad the NBA is just that good. Shoot if it's 3-4 years ago the Pistons making the playoffs. They are the only team that's 5 years away. If they stay together they finna be like that

The problem IS the coach that didn't want to be here. Just for the money. The team problem is poor coaching of the offensive structure. Pointing fingers at the players in interviews. Making them feel down on themselves. The bigs do not utilize the midrange game. Constantly open at the foul line for a jump shot. That would open the driving lane for Cade, Ivey and others. The bigs do not know how to play their man and the ball. The coach let the refs think the team is tanking. He is not fighting for his players. They have slow feet on defense. Pass getting through the lane too easily. He need to go for someone that want to be here.

I agree that our mental state when it comes to competitiveness is defeated, but we have to look at the source. It’s Monty. Early first 10 games we were still putting up a fight. But Monty bald ass jus ruined the whole teams chemistry. Killed the teams confidence. I believe now they’re losing on purpose to get em outta der. Weaver gotta go too

Nobody on the pistons deserve a nba contract, maybe Cunningham can get a mid level contract but no way does he deserve a max contract. All these players r terrible not include the 1st or 2nd yr players they r still too young

Wow, they paid Monty $78 million for an average coaching job at Phoenix.

Team took a bet on Cade and Ivey to be dogs but no there Bust

The Pistons are an example of why the NBA used to covet good college players who had 3-4 years of success. Or at least an example of why teams were hesitant to draft young guys. Pretty much all their lottery guys are ones who never learned how to shoot & were able to just be more athletic and bigger for HS and one year of college. They get to the NBA and it’s not enough to win games. Thankfully, I think the guys are of better character than Simmons or Zion, but who knows. Once these guys get paid, it usually just gets worse from there.

What made you think Ivey was a steal

I disagree, we have a lot of young talent, top three youngest team in the NBA. Yea a terrible season, not a terrible future though

My gut tells me, they should trade either Chris Paul or Patrick Beverley. Someone who can rally a locker room.

The owner gm coaches training staff all need to go

No wonder they have problems with Eric Andre on the court. You got Kraft Dunk’d!

Lmfao those Sixers I remember em 😭

Monty wanna get fired up to get compensation; front office draft and trade is suck for getting wiseman and Bagley when the roster already has Isaiah and Duran, guard use Hayes instead of Ivey, wings is like the worse (bojan is old, Thompson has D only, Knox is like a random player who doesn’t have anymore potential to grow

I always thought Monty was terrible hire but I actually think it's Cade's job to get them a win. Great players sometimes can just will the team to a win regardless of the coaching staff. No one expect Cade to carry them every single game but for just 1 game out of 20+?? Come on, if your franchise player can't carry your team to 1 win out of 20+, he's not much of a franchise player. As much as people bash Lebron, he would singlehandly carry some of those terrible Cavs team to wins

Monty, the front office, and the owner are to blame 100%. This is all on them.

I remember Detroit Media was talking so much ish about Sacramento for giving them Bagley and Jayden Ivey . Look at you now media 😂

The words generational talent are thrown around so much these days. Zion, cade, wemby. Even back in the day wiggins, simmons etc. Generational is once every 20-30 years. Not 5 times every 10 years. Look at the past champions. Raptors no lottery picks. Lakers. Free agency and a trade. Bucks best player was pick 15 Second best was a trade. Third best second round pick. Warriors was drafted yes. But drafting at picks 7,11 and the second round. Even poole end of first round. Then the nuggets. Best player was in the second round. The only teams that draft high and keep their players dont win. Look at the sixers. The draft is a crapshoot shopting at blanks most of the time

They’re way too dependent on Cade to create when he has shown very little to indicate he’s able to consistently do that at a high level.

Players don’t wanna be the student of the game no more.

Honestly they’re not playing Ivey or Ausur enough, they rather play Strasser, Livers and Hayes

Monty Williams. Easy answer. They had less talent last season, they were more competitive while trying to lose. That should speak volumes. They did not have Cade, or Ausur or Sasser. That is a ton of talent, scoring, and defense to add to a team that was competitive a good portion of last season. Beef Stew as a stretch 4 is a ridiculous experiment (they did do that last season). Hayes as a starter is also ridiculous. Most of these players roles were known, Hayes thrived in his last season. Now he is back to inconsistently contributing, playing lousy team defense but more importantly, he doesn't fit with those players. He is a PG, Cade is a PG. They need to play their natural positions. Ivey is a scoring guard. None of this should be as difficult as this jacka$$ coach has made it. He is an idiot and the actual only real issue. Nothing else matters, it is coaching. These same players, with less help, played better last season. There's no counter argument to that either. It is the coach then and that is blatantly obvious.

Their injuries have been pretty bad.. cade missed all of last season.. bogy is just now coming back from injury.. Duren has been injured all year.. Killian hayes and marvin bagley both have had serious injuries in their short NBA careers.. not to mention joel harris

Poorly constructed roster, bad front office who didn’t capitalize on free agency last year. Like bro the roster if you saw it at the beginning of this season had issue alot. Lack of depth shooters and wings it’s embarrassing

bro casually added a montage of Isaiah stewart missing threes 😭

As a spurs fan I can relate

They killed these young guy’s confidence everyone knew Philadelphia was going to be horrible , no one knew Detroit was going to be this god awful …..the talent is their mint lost this locker room.

One word: Cade

and on top of all that they paid the coach a BAG

3:58 Arent they still trying to tank??? So it does even matter? The team is putting those players on the meat grinder and profiting from their agony like a Darkest Dungeon Campaign. The team is more important, people like Wemby is all that matter, they can be disposed.

This team has a ton of talent , they just hella inconsistent

These teams who are taking to get the number one pick in the NBA need to get rid of the GMS especially the ones who have big Market teams. Analytics and gang of draft picks they don't need. Learn from the Clippers and OKC do not work

that's nonsense. An entire team can't have the yips. Watch them play. The players are comically bad on defense, but a lot of them play very very hard every play. Killian Hayes plays very hard, but he's bad at everything, can't even make layups. James Wiseman is comically bad at defense but he just doesn't know what he's supposed to do. Every single play he's caught in no man's land. Bojan is a vet. He gives you vet effort every game and never gives up. He plays like he's being paid to play. Jaden Ivy though probably lost a lot of his confidence because the coach has no confidence in him. Now of course it's true that the team plays its hardest in the 1st quarter, when they think "Oh we might win this one" but a lot of the reason they get shut down is just how aware the other team is of the piston's deficiencies. Every single team in the NBA knows that they will get that scarlet letter if they are the first loss to this pistons team so they try their best to blow out the pistons in the first half. The other teams are bringing maximum effort to beat this team. There are two teams that you will find yourself giving maximum effort against. One is the previous champion. You want to beat them. The other is the worst team in the history of the NBA. You don't want to lose to them. Give some props to our opponents. They try hard to beat this terrible pistons team. Of course, after the 1st quarter, when they are ahead by 20 they do start to loaf. But if the pistons ever make a run and threaten to win, the other team puts their foot on the pistons throat and stops it. I'm convinced this team plays hard. They are just bad. There's only one person on the entire team that can shoot the ball and he's 34 years old. the reason this team sucks is that at the end of the day this isn't about X's and O's and defense and leaping out of the gym drawing fouls and playing hard. At the end of the day one team puts the ball in the hoop. The other team doesn't. This miserable pistons team can't put the ball in the hoop. They can't even make layups.

No one who actually lives in Detroit talks about Detroit like this. All the viewers and even the people who comment sound like they don't even live in Detroit how would you like it if I talked about how they let Giannis special ed brother play for Milwaukee or how Washington only won like 3 games more than the pistons 😮

Their biggest problem is Monty Williams.

I say make Ivey your point guard, Bogie, Cade and Ausar your wings, and Duran your center. Period.

The main issue is Monty Williams.

Hamidou Diallo one he should be on this team for his energy alone. I just feel like Monty Williams isn't a good coach, he went to finals yes with Chris Paul and book but after that season they lost both times in second round badly too, I might add. Ivey and Ayton have a lot in common when it comes to Monty! He walks in the building acting like he's Phil Jackson or Pat riley and loses players that way. just look how he treated Ivey who had a great rookie season and we was better last year and 3 players werent even on the team last year!!! Monty excuse is defense but last i checked everyone is having a career year against us! So what D, is he talking about and i thought your supposed to coach your guy's up!!!

This is the internet now, and youtube. Folks who didn't even play JV basketball are certain they know the problem. I guess this has replaced sports talk radio...

Something fishy is up in detriot. Looking forward ro draft time

Sad our bulls let them get a win

Need to trade for Ben Simmons

Got 7 pfs n centers. No shooters other then bodg

d book carried Monty so hard 😂

Free Cade Cunningham, he is wasting away for that Detroit poverty franchise.

Trade Cade, Bagley and Wiseman for a good vet and build around Ivey, Ausar & Duren.

CC is clearly not generational talent, not even close.

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Bro wtf are you talking about? Cade was NOT a generational talent. He was a worse prospect than Luka and he went third. Cade was one of the worst prospects of the last 10 years to go #1. He wasn't in the same stratosphere as actual generational prospects like Victor and LeBron.

So he couldn't say. Im here because i believe in this team. I think the city deserves to win, and i want to help with that. I mean anything besides. Im here because of the money. Lol. Is ok. Keep defending him is only 23 losses in a row. Once it gets to 30, maybe you can change your mind. Lmao

They should've known they weren't getting wemby. That was an NBA decision 😂