The Difference Between Hardwoods and Softwoods (I Swear, More Interesting Than It Sounds)

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Perhaps the most important and misunderstood aspect of defining wood as either hard or soft is that it has absolutely nothing to do with the individual qualities of the harvested wood itself. The most famous and oft used example of this concept is that of balsa wood which, despite being literally one of the least dense (and hence softest) woods of all, is technically classified as hardwood. Likewise, the wood of the yew tree, which is classified as being a softwood, is a great deal tougher than many hardwoods including several types of oak. So what’s going on here?
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@TodayIFoundOut 6 жыл бұрын

Ready to learn more fun facts about wood? Then check out this video and find out the answer to the question- Why Do We Knock On Wood?: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pJ9la9mSsKuUm5c.html

@originalShorai 5 жыл бұрын

What about Smallwood? 😙

@krokodyl1927 5 жыл бұрын

Today I Found Out Topic suggestion - why certain woods are preferred in manufacture of pool cues (not straight rail billiards cues). Thank you for your consideration, Simon. Best regards.

@elihu217qd5150 7 жыл бұрын

working on a farm, I found out all wood is hard wood when you drop it on your foot.

@issac7787 7 жыл бұрын

lmao😂😂

@bknesheim 7 жыл бұрын

From my own experience, a waterlogged softwod is a lot harder on the foot then any dry hardwood.

@saheilaanarzee5552 7 жыл бұрын

Stefan Butz the more simple explination, is a tree that keeps its leaf all year i.e. fir are soft wood. trees that loose leaf in winter i.e. oak is hardwood, which often sells for more because it takes longer to grow

@gnarthdarkanen7464 7 жыл бұрын

tomyourmom, Admittedly, I was taught (in school) the deciduous/conifer version, too... But apparently, the explanation in the vid' here makes better sense when scrutinized historically... So... Maybe you would care for a question... What about the Pinion Pine... It's my understanding (though I've never personally gone foraging them myself) that it's a conifer (pine in the name and all) but it's seeds are the famous "pinion nuts" sold practically all over the world... Hardwood, by the reckoning in the vid'... But which would you say? Just curious... :o)

@behrangkhosravi3157 7 жыл бұрын

LMFAO!

@kylethomas9130 5 жыл бұрын

*unknowingly clicks on old video "Holy crap! What happened to..." *sees it's 2 years old "Ah."

@bradypostma5167 5 жыл бұрын

My reaction: "Where the hell is your beard, sir?"

@melissamenchaca9121 5 жыл бұрын

Brady Postma his head looks so small

@ryleexiii1252 5 жыл бұрын

I didn't even recognize him.

@eothamec2427 5 жыл бұрын

I had about the same reaction as a bikini bottom citizen looking at king Neptune’s “thinning” hair.

@ghostphoto1789 5 жыл бұрын

it's over 3 years old now. scary how much time flies. 2016 seems much closer than it is

@JonneBackhaus 7 жыл бұрын

Probably the only Video with Wood, Sperm and Hard in the same sentence without being porn.

@barbiquearea 5 жыл бұрын

And a author named Wang being mentioned.

@dudeinoakland 5 жыл бұрын

And the Janka hardness test

@on_spikes6867 5 жыл бұрын

"Naked" also being said

@amistry605 5 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@random...3723 3 жыл бұрын

AHAHAHA- OMG- 😂😂😂😂 Is that so??

@Mazaroth 7 жыл бұрын

Nothing is harder than morning wood.

@ZarPof 7 жыл бұрын

You mean nothing is harder to relieve yourself with. Man if you have to take a dump with it, forget about it.

@molson0 7 жыл бұрын

Did you embed a steel ball in it to make sure?

@ZarPof 7 жыл бұрын

Alec Hogerland twice

@samuelluria4744 7 жыл бұрын

Ouch!

@liquidminds 7 жыл бұрын

When the seed is covered, it's hardwood, but it becomes softwood, when the seed is exposed to the elements ;-)

@Rhapbus1 7 жыл бұрын

one video i have to turn up my speakers to almost full, the next its shaking my fucking house.

@deaconblooze1 7 жыл бұрын

The amazing part is that you managed to get through this entire video without using the words 'deciduous' & 'coniferous'.

@ExBruinsFan 7 жыл бұрын

No surprise. He cannot even pronounce "et cetera" correctly.

@ravebiscuits8721 7 жыл бұрын

ExBruinsFan that's a wrong but far far more normal way to pronounce it in Britain. It would only suggest his social class and absolutely not his level of intelligence or even type of education.

@ExBruinsFan 7 жыл бұрын

Rave Biscuits If he knows "ex cetra" is wrong and still says it, then he is being willfully ignorant.

@thelonecabbage7834 7 жыл бұрын

+ExBruinsFan And you have no concept of what it means to be "willfully ignorant". We all have our flaws.

@ravebiscuits8721 7 жыл бұрын

ExBruinsFan Oh dear, if you want to sound intelligent (and it's clear by your stance that you do) then it's probably best to look up the definition of a phrase before using it... Willfully ignorant would mean that he is going out of his way to not learn something, it doesn't mean 'someone who chooses not to implement a piece of knowledge'. He already knows as most do in Britain but is unable to, or sees no benefit to, catching himself every time he uses the phrase, when everyone will understand him and only wanna-be intellectual, purist twats like you will get upset.

@DesertHomesteader 7 жыл бұрын

I really appreciate this explanation. As an aspiring homesteader, the hardness of different woods makes a big difference in which trees I will want to plant, so it is good to know not to assume much based on the classification.

@debries1553 7 жыл бұрын

One wood think there'd be a more log-ical reason. (sorry, I couldn't resist)

@achinvincible 7 жыл бұрын

fir heaven's sake, Some of these puns are so old I sawdust on them. I'm knot joking.

@kannorkallingzvorth9809 7 жыл бұрын

Ach Shetty I can knot believe I just saw that.

@Hellcommander245 7 жыл бұрын

These puns are so 'plane'.

@snlbitchluva 7 жыл бұрын

Debries That was so angiosperm! Wait...

@suivzmoi 7 жыл бұрын

@snlbitchluva wood you like to try again?

@atomicskull6405 5 жыл бұрын

That simple definition fails with Ginko trees. They are gymnosperms but have a fleshy covering on their seeds. A better definition is simply that softwoods come from non flowering trees like conifers and ginkos and hardwoods come from flowering trees like apple, oak etc. The female reproductive structures of gymnosperms do not contain ovaries and because of this they are not considered to be flowers (an example is the male and female cones on pine trees). They do have a seed coat but it's not ovary derived tissue. In the case of a Ginko the "fruit" it's actually a seed with a fleshy seed coat and not a true fruit.

@hairutheninja 5 жыл бұрын

That really was surprisingly interesting. you never dissapoint

@shawnwolff4490 5 жыл бұрын

This is one of my favorite videos today that you guys have produced I would love to see a part two version to give more details into different what hardnesses and what some good/ common uses for them would be

@jenvalzinaaccaliahavinoth2226 7 жыл бұрын

the differance between hardwood and softwood is: if one lasts for more then 4 hours you should consult a doctor immediately

@mulymule12 7 жыл бұрын

This is like the HPC, outa no where, a decent channel arrives.

@TodayIFoundOut 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@VicariousReality7 7 жыл бұрын

What is the difference between the Brinell test and the Janka test?

@dffrancis 7 жыл бұрын

+VicariousReality7 the names are different

@ThiloSauber 7 жыл бұрын

Janka measures the amount of force it takes the steel ball to penetrate a defined depth into the wood, brinell has a defined force and measures the depth it was able to reach. Same same but different.

@makeshifthouse 7 жыл бұрын

WHAT THA FAAAK.

@snlbitchluva 7 жыл бұрын

Love what your doing Simon, love your videos when they come out, thanks for putting your work in these, and for feeding my curious mind.

@terribleteddy 5 жыл бұрын

A response to the title. I found it interesting even before I read the " I swear bit"

@chouyi007 5 жыл бұрын

That example at 3:58 wasn't a Hickory, but Quercus alba - the White Oak.

@nicholassagraves2086 7 жыл бұрын

Simon, I love your channel. I consider it a great source of reliable, factual knowledge. That being said, there seems to be some dispute on the janka hardness of the Australian Buloke. The wood database has the janka hardness at 3,760 lbf (16,740 N), whereas wikipedia quotes the 5,060 lbf (22,500 N). Im not really sure if this info is strong enough for an edit to the video or not.

@BrokebackBob 8 жыл бұрын

I wish I could double-like !! Fascinating info that I, a notorious smartypants, did not know! Big thumbs up!

@matthiaswandel 7 жыл бұрын

You used an image from my website in this video (would be nice to at least give credit). But ironically, this image is not at all illustrating what you explained. My hardness test is not at all based on the janka hardness test.

@DATTURTL3 7 жыл бұрын

Matthias Wandel 👋🏽

@God8-O 7 жыл бұрын

Matthias Wandel What is your website ???

@Danstasuik2010 7 жыл бұрын

woodgears.ca

@God8-O 7 жыл бұрын

Matthias Wandel Now I know who you are you were on TV !!!!!! (Outrageous Acts of Science)

@nickkk420 7 жыл бұрын

Hahaa your everywhere Matthias!!!!

@Epidendrum30 7 жыл бұрын

This is incorrect. Hardwood and softwood refers to cells in the wood, not to the classification of the tree. Softwoods have only one type of cell (tiny tracheids) so their wood appears "soft" or bland-monotonous to the eyes. Hardwoods mix two cells (big vessels and little tracheids) in different proportions so their wood patterns are jumbled-irregular or hard on the eyes. Yes, all softwoods are gymnosperms but not all angiosperms are hardwoods. The wood taken from magnolias and other magnoliid trees are softwoods.

@minotaursam999 7 жыл бұрын

This seems like a much more reasonable and useful way to classify wood, but alas, after about a half hour of research from 12 different sources, i could not find a single one that supported this claim.

@Epidendrum30 7 жыл бұрын

Try looking in standard, American, Botany texts under secondary growth or mature growth. In fact, the timber of certain flowering trees (magnolia) are classified as softwoods because the xylem lacks vessels. One wonders if this is an American vs. European distinction?

@minotaursam999 7 жыл бұрын

Peter Bernhardt It would appear that some texts do mention wood grain and color as properties of wood as related to it being soft or hardwood, but the way they classify it is angiosperm vs gymnosperm. And as always, America may be an island in this and everything else, so that is not far fetched.

@barbaralatham5107 7 жыл бұрын

Peter Bernhardt

@Knobulon 7 жыл бұрын

Peter Bernhardt www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/design/resistantmaterials/materialsmaterialsrev1.shtml I got this from the BBC website which is taught in English schools

@espositogregory 7 жыл бұрын

The title made me laugh, and worth the thumbs up. Keep it up friend!

@TheOceanLoader 22 күн бұрын

As someone who has recently bought some reclaimed timber, hardwood shelves, I found this informative but a little part of me really wants to try out samples of those other woods!

@potawatomi100 7 жыл бұрын

You videos are always interesting and very informing. Thank for the work you do.

@richelliott9320 7 жыл бұрын

I like your channel,it's not long winded and I find the topics are interesting to me

@CorkySchillinger 8 жыл бұрын

(Does Beavis and Butthead impression) Heh! He said wood! :) Well, I also learned something new. I always thought they were hardwood or softwood based on their tensile strength. Now I know better. The older I get, the more I realize how much I don't know! Well done, TIFO team!

@TodayIFoundOut 8 жыл бұрын

+Corky Schillinger Thanks!

@samuelluria4744 7 жыл бұрын

Thhettle down Beavithh.....

@arelam8055 7 жыл бұрын

Why do you need to swear it's good? All your videos are good. Good interesting presentation, not too long not too short and easily understandable. Keep up the good work!

@madness-pkgaming2931 3 жыл бұрын

I loved this video Simon. Very interesting 👍

@ladykoiwolfe 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you. This is something I've always been vaguely curious about. Can you do an equivalent video for rocks and minerals?

@p.moorewilson7917 5 жыл бұрын

Not sure why you qualified, at the beginning of the video, that ‘this (video) is actually interesting’. Simon, your posts are ALWAYS interesting! You are, hands down, one of my favourite KZfaqrs. Please keep up the great work! 👏👏👏👏👏

@billiondollardan 8 жыл бұрын

Great video. Great channel. Well done!

@_multiverse_ 7 жыл бұрын

I like how he showed a pinecone with the description of an unprotected seed....a pinecone is the definition of a covered seed....some only open when lit on fire...

@creativesuit1930 7 жыл бұрын

Sam What you're referring to are serotinous cones. Not all pine cones exhibit this behavior. Two that I can think of are Jack Pines and Table Pines. There are many more that don't behave in this manner.

@chrish1657 5 жыл бұрын

Who's this clean shaven non-spectacled young man?

@brantleyhester6641 5 жыл бұрын

Chris H Behold past Simon. Kinda like we're time traveling but not going anywhere. Maybe this is time travel. I mean we can see it just can't touch it

@bradypostma5167 5 жыл бұрын

Everyone is a time traveler. We just all travel through time at approximately the same rate.

@brantleyhester6641 5 жыл бұрын

Brady Postma Yeah.. Not at all what I'm referring to. Viewing a window of the past

@AlejandroRodolfoMendez 8 жыл бұрын

when i learn something new as in this video, it is always interesting. thanks

@jeffharrison1090 3 жыл бұрын

Informative and engaging too! thx.

@CZPoland 6 ай бұрын

Best exploration of hard wood i ever heard, greate thanks to you 👍👍👍

@fencserx9423 3 жыл бұрын

It’s nice to have a Today I found out video when I have a random question that I type in out of curiosity

@wrektum 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks. That was much more interesting than I thought it would be.

@mtnbkreric1 5 жыл бұрын

Great Video, but I do love all your vids ❤️🇨🇦🥰

@GrimSqueaker627 7 жыл бұрын

I'm happy that you posted this as it seriously just helped my hobby out a ton. I make wooden swords and shields and I'm constantly looking for wood that is durable enough to handle kids. Thank You

@willhooke 11 ай бұрын

Very useful video on hard wood and soft wood Thank you

@wycheproofworkshops1192 5 жыл бұрын

Great video mate, I've cut a lot and I'll be cutting up some more Buloke very soon. I have lots of it as I live in the Buloke Shire in Victoria Australia lol. It is very hard so you have to cut very slowly but it's managable

@random...3723 3 жыл бұрын

I had to repeat this atleast five times due to the loud t.v.. But when I finally watched it, understanding it, I rewatched it five times again from liking the video.

@magicalrobster 8 жыл бұрын

thanks that was really useful

@B_COOPER Ай бұрын

I always thought that KZfaq was just repeatedly unsubscribing from Simon Whistler, but then I realized that Simon Whistler has more channels than Verizon

@TomWylie 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks, this WAS interesting, just like you said it would be! :)

@trevorlambert4226 7 жыл бұрын

From the Wood Database, regarding Quipo: ..."the purported hardness seems highly questionable, especially in light of the fact that Quipo seems to be very susceptible to rot, and on one USDA test, it was remarked that “the results for quipo may have been influenced by the presence of considerable decay.” Furthermore, when comparing Quipo with Balsa, it has been shown that the two woods are virtually identical in hardness, with the absolute lowest recorded Janka hardness values, in the range of 20-35 lbf (89-156 N), were actually from Balsa, and not Quipo."

@SkipTerrio 7 жыл бұрын

Seriously, not one joke about doing the "Janka" test on your hard wood? I'm disappointed in you, KZfaq.

@JoelHudson 6 жыл бұрын

Jack X looks like you ummm... "Handled" it.

@TheReZisTLust 6 жыл бұрын

Jack too mature for u I guess lol

@TS_Mind_Swept 6 жыл бұрын

I’m not. Besides, KZfaq doesn’t make jokes, it just hosts videos and comments from stupid ppl with nothing better to do with their lives then be dirty.

@johnknapp952 5 жыл бұрын

Considering that in some parts of the world "Janka" would be pronounce "Yanka" gives new meaning to testing procedures.

@jubjub905 5 жыл бұрын

0MindSwept0 ...somebody isn’t a very fun individual...

@justsomeguy5417 8 жыл бұрын

Simon is so cool. comes across so professional

@dlwatib 7 жыл бұрын

KZfaq's current algorithm ignores likes and dislikes. Sharing on social media is likely to result in increased viewing minutes, which is what youtube is actually using. So if you want to help out a channel, view all of their work through to the end and hype it on social media so that others will too. You found out something about youtube today. You're welcome.

@eduardvaniersel7535 7 жыл бұрын

In the Netherlands a hardwood is classified as wood from a broad-leaved tree and a softwood as a wood from a conifer. So it differs slightly from the definition given in the video. But using the definitions to describe the characteristics of the timber is pointless anyway.

@ozdergekko 8 жыл бұрын

really, really interesting. I can't remember having heard that in my botany lectures at university, back when mushrooms still were plants.

@simonelliott7570 5 жыл бұрын

I'm a carpenter when doing my training we were taught that there is different cell structures to hard and soft woods.

@thairinkhudr4259 4 жыл бұрын

I would think that is true.

@djss7122 Жыл бұрын

As a carpenter, what are your thoughts on rubber wood? Also, would it make a good salad bowl?

@lordindulgence 7 жыл бұрын

I have no idea why but this was actually freaking fascinating

@shashwatparth3672 4 ай бұрын

Nice vid!

@danielhenderson7050 5 жыл бұрын

Can't be a coincidence that I googled the difference between these two things the other day and find this in my feed :)

@khunpingpong 7 жыл бұрын

Love the content. I felt like this clip is 20 mins long hot news.

@xh0rsex 7 жыл бұрын

what about morning wood?.. oh, that would be hardwood...

@kyrstinbruce3708 5 жыл бұрын

The seed from morning wood is exposed and not contained in a shell. So softwood

@MrPs103 7 жыл бұрын

Angiosperm, gymnosperm, hard wood, soft wood, Xin Wang, Janka (pronounced 'Yank-a'), and I swear I though he said 'the hardest wood is said to come from the Australian 'bloke' (actually said 'buloke')...I have a feeling that this is a scientific topic in colleges with a decent amount of giggles. The comments posted previously to this one supports that theory, it seems. I've been doing some woodworking projects lately, and been wondering this same thing. Thanks for the information!

@jasonferguson4247 7 жыл бұрын

Learn something new everyday. I never knew this.

@SunyJim 7 жыл бұрын

So let me get this straight the way we tell softwood from Hardwood is with the Yanker test? (Does Beavis and Butthead laugh). I feel the same way that's how I test my wood too LOL

@thtsimv 7 жыл бұрын

Colin Wells nope. Watch the video again.

@PongoXBongo 7 жыл бұрын

So, soft seeds equal hardwood, and hard seeds equal softwood? That totally makes sense...not.

@arcad1an292 7 жыл бұрын

Totally interesting 👍

@HenkJanBakker 7 жыл бұрын

Its not 'cue-po' but 'kwee-po'. Minor flaw but as you are so spot on normally I thought I'd mention it.

@NATEASS225 7 жыл бұрын

I love this channel

@icreatedanaccountforthis1852 5 жыл бұрын

Difference between hard wood and soft wood: one is more noticeable in your pants.

@Kiery86 5 жыл бұрын

Cheers, Simon. That is incidentally a question I’ve always pondered. Up until now, the prospect of Balsa wood being a hardwood made absolutely no sense to me at all!!?? Lol

@censoredone1374 5 жыл бұрын

Hey you should do a video about the different burning temperatures of different types of wood it's very interesting topic

@georgehowarth2388 8 жыл бұрын

Definitely not clickbait

@seska1245 5 жыл бұрын

It’s so strange looking at you from years ago. I like your look now :)

@robertbrunston5406 7 жыл бұрын

Trivia, thank you.

@bizarreworld2510 7 жыл бұрын

3:17 Ser Davos "Onion Knight" appears

@dickidydoodah 5 жыл бұрын

4:03 the tree is Quercus Alba (White Oak) not a Hickory.

@RandyLunn 7 жыл бұрын

How and why did Janka settle on a steel ball that was .444" (11.28mm) in diameter? Is this a standard ball bearing size? Did he do it to sell a specialized piece of equipment?

@fsmoura 7 жыл бұрын

He found the repetition of the digit 4 entrancingly mesmerizing.

@mrmeowtv6248 7 жыл бұрын

To get an area of 100 mm^2. Easier to perform stress/strain calculations.

@fhuber7507 6 жыл бұрын

easy to get ball bearing size.

@derekmcdermott5312 4 жыл бұрын

This was actually very interesting

@sarcasmo57 5 жыл бұрын

should plant more of those Australian trees and turn them into sky scrapers.

@sean8081a Жыл бұрын

I've heard hardwood is like a bunch of drinking straws stuck together vs softwood which are fibers. When the tree takes up water, it's straws vs wicks.

@HyoudenKyou 7 жыл бұрын

that was interesting. thanks.

@evernewb2073 5 жыл бұрын

hickory isn't so much hard as it is tough: the wood does a *much* better than average job of dispersing energy throughout it's structure in both sudden shocks and sustained stress, couple that with good elasticity, good deflection before damage, and a whole lotta energy required to extend damage after it begins and you get a famously stubborn material, it even weathers well ^_^. that said there aren't that many kinds of wood that I know of where that rating is misleading, and all the ones I can think of off the top of my head are woods near the bottom of the spectrum that rate (relatively) well because of filler material and have a much less fibrous structure, so they resist crushing but lack tensile strength (relatively speaking, these are all things you can probably pull apart with your hands)

@cyclesingsleep 5 жыл бұрын

...would love Simon to do a video on your comment!

@oltedders 7 жыл бұрын

I can't watch Simon without thinking about his hardwood.

@madness-pkgaming2931 3 жыл бұрын

Very good and scientific

@DarrenRBaker 7 жыл бұрын

The softest wood ever tested was not cuipo, it was balsa. The book in which this report was included ("Strength and related properties of Balsa and Quipo woods") had a typo.

@mytech6779 5 жыл бұрын

There is also a substantial difference in the ratio of cellulose to hemi-cellulose(softwoods have very little hemi-cellulose) and notable difference in their respective strengths profile such that soft woods tend to be fibrous and stringy while hardwoods chip and fracture in a more chunky fashion.

@petertimowreef9085 7 жыл бұрын

I can decide what's interesting and what isn't for myself perfectly fine thanks. Heck, you only see that part of the title after you've clicked the video...

@Nonunusmultorum 5 жыл бұрын

FYI, lbf is "pound-force", it's the imperial equivalent of the Newton as it is a measure of force, not mass. Great content btw

@Cag93 7 жыл бұрын

This video is even better when taken out of context lmao

@magicoA 7 жыл бұрын

Smiles when he says naked seed,it looks like he laughed right after that

@PickOfDestiny89 7 жыл бұрын

Ron Swanson is proud of you.

@SCARECROWprods 7 жыл бұрын

I always thought that the classification was by how long the wood burned. Hardwoods would typically burn for longer than softwoods. Learned something new.

@MCatSHF 7 жыл бұрын

Hello Today I Found Out Hardwood trees are deciduous trees (broad leaf trees that tend to loose their leaves in northern climates for the winter). Softwood trees are conifers (trees that have needles instead of leaves).

@johnmartin6334 5 жыл бұрын

Yes, the Yanker test IS the the best way to test the hardness of your wood.

@20thcenturytunes 5 жыл бұрын

Hi, well done - does growth rate have any affect on hardness - oak trees grow much slower than aspen so oak should be harder?

@jyggalagdaedricprinceoford6239 7 жыл бұрын

As a luthier, the difference in woods make a world of difference in tone.

@joshoconnor6684 4 ай бұрын

To correct you, quipo and balsa were quoted as roughly the same hardness and you were incorrect, the 22 on the janka scale was actually balsa and not quipo. You made an error because someone back when made an error which they have actually went back and corrected. So ues balse is the "softest" as in having the lowest single point but on average quipo and balsa are about the same