The Double Barrel Shotgun: A Tutorial | Darktide

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Reginald

Reginald

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@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
1. Dump stat is mobility. 2. MANSTOPPER: don't try to roll for it if you are at or above level 30. Instead check the armory on all available human characters and melk and get it that way. 3. Run n Gun improves accuracy of your ranged weapon while in use. I haven't confirmed if this improvement effects while not sprinting. Neither change my opinion dramatically on the best blessing choices as I'm not especially enamored with what Dance of Death does to the Hacker but it may make this blessing worth more than a garbage bin.
@vicidplays2088
@vicidplays2088 Ай бұрын
FS needs to just make those blessings rank 3 or 4, so dumb. (Also, can you even roll Rank 2 blessings at around level 22 - when this shockgun unlocks?)
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
@@vicidplays2088 I don't think you can lol.
@someguy8443
@someguy8443 Ай бұрын
​@Reginald-sc9tk That's how I got mine. Leveled a zealot up to 20 and rolled manstopper and flechette very quickly.
@Havokk
@Havokk Ай бұрын
You can also check Brunt's for the random weapons every hour. I've gotten a couple tier 2 blessings from there on my human characters.
@Rex-qx2ko
@Rex-qx2ko Ай бұрын
@@vicidplays2088 ya i havent played in a while and wont until the itemization overhaul. at least theres something to look forward to though
@Terentios
@Terentios Ай бұрын
Fun little side note: Veterans exe stance works great with the hacker. The 25% dmg bonus and spread & recoil reduction are just *chefs kiss*. I did a doom guy build on veteran with it (just to simulate glory kill possibilities xP ) and it can 1shot fairly reliably non-elite shooters from 25-30m range and with luck even at 40m. This gives a nice tool against them since they are now much more accurate & deadly.
@Earliersphere
@Earliersphere Ай бұрын
only real problem with Exec stance is the green gas bomb or map effect glitches the tagging outline. Other than that yeah the Hacker on a long range build is hilariously good.
@J.B.1982
@J.B.1982 Ай бұрын
Heck of a video. The mad-lad has a spreadsheet with horde clearing times. I'm in the right place. I started playing this game about a month ago. I'm loving it so far.
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
Thanks! I actually have a spread sheet with kill times for a number of major enemy types. They're still valid as balance hasn't changed much in the last 6 months since patch 14. Welcome to the fold friend, hope you keep having fun.
@J.B.1982
@J.B.1982 Ай бұрын
@@Reginald-sc9tk thank you. The game gets better the better I get.
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
@@J.B.1982 and the skill cap is incredibly insanely high. That's why I keep playing, i still have improvement to do.
@GroBoiD7777
@GroBoiD7777 Ай бұрын
Its good you missed game in a bad 1st year, enjoy...FOR THE EMPEROR
@crazylasagna3576
@crazylasagna3576 Ай бұрын
Fun Combo: The Always Prepared keystone modifier will always refill one bullet for the Hacker shotgun, even if you only get one kill. When combined with the crit bonus from Weapons Specialist you can repeatedly whip out a crit Hacker shot in combat, which is especially effective with Manstopper.
@supdude4292
@supdude4292 Ай бұрын
run and gun IMO is a must since it also significantly tightens the spread as well as allowing my build to hit some good breakpoints
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
It does tighten spread but only while sprinting and you only get two shots. Compare that to shorter range but clearing 6+ ragers in a single shot.
@oxmor
@oxmor Ай бұрын
Agreed inexperienced gamers will not understand that this blessing is core to a standard performance hacker. I would not run one without run and gun unless with specialized build.
@oxmor
@oxmor Ай бұрын
@@Reginald-sc9tklook at the reticle, all times it is tighter. Nearly by 50% while just standing. While sprinting and sliding it decreases by 75%. Play with this blessing and compare it. It’s best in slot for gun psyker.
@FrightenedFilms
@FrightenedFilms Ай бұрын
Yeah I also have to agree, Run and gun + full bore allows my zealot to destroy units. Plus you can slide and reload keeping forward momentum
@snorristurluson5977
@snorristurluson5977 Ай бұрын
@@Reginald-sc9tk Run n gun is a good blessing > damage buff, maintains mobility and reduces dispersion (even when stationary). With the zaelot's talent for reducing dispersion on a dodge, the reticle becomes smaller than the agripinaa shotgun. The only problem is that I have the impression that the dispersion depending on the reticul is not correct either on the zealot with this combo, or on the veteran with the appropriate talents/skills.
@emanate0
@emanate0 Ай бұрын
cleave dakka sounds nice but no way i'm gonna give up my both barrels reload speed. makes the gun feel so much better to use
@sirgaz8699
@sirgaz8699 Ай бұрын
A double-barrel shotgun called Hacker just makes me want to play Cyberpunk.
@fragtal177
@fragtal177 11 күн бұрын
Satara shotgun build is nice :)
@sirgaz8699
@sirgaz8699 10 күн бұрын
@@fragtal177 ORDER BANG
@flipsvstheworld
@flipsvstheworld Ай бұрын
I don't think the new gunner buff is as "anti-fun" as a lot of people say it is. I get the anger from a swarm of bullets melting your health bar. Yet, I enjoy that FS made them more of AN actual threat, rather then trivial. Before, it was just the Mobeian and Scab gunners that are an issue. They all now do insane pop shots from across the map, but target priority, suprresion, and dodge sliding still topples them like they are pre-buff. Even Reapers are more of threat now.
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
I think you're mixing your shooters and gunners. Gunners are the machine gun elites in the psychaneum while shooters are just the random rifle guys. I agree the shooter buff was needed but the gunners also getting buffed was a weird call. They're more annoying than fun and spawn in strangely high numbers for "elites"
@flipsvstheworld
@flipsvstheworld Ай бұрын
@@Reginald-sc9tk i keep confusing dreg and scab gunners like crazy
@agedgouda8809
@agedgouda8809 Ай бұрын
@@Reginald-sc9tkwhen were gunners buffed?
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
@@agedgouda8809 This patch, they also received a narrowing of their firing cone so they're more accurate.
@infrared6973
@infrared6973 Ай бұрын
@@Reginald-sc9tki havent played psyker since the patch cuz i dont wanna get shredded by some random ass dred that decided to spawn on a ledge above and behind me that instantly deletes me before I can even turn around and brain burst it. This happened to me a few days before the update so I cannot imagine how bad it is now. Also I wish enemies would stop spawning out of thin air and buffing gunners while the stun from them still exists was a bad move because a veteran has voice of command but a psyker does not and its just bad in general. We should not be getting stunned by gunners. Also idk if they did anything to shotgunners but it seems like they knock you back aggressively even if they arent close enough to do a ton of damage. Since the update shotgunners have been just shredding health but they could be the same for all I know.
@beheadedfrito3544
@beheadedfrito3544 Ай бұрын
Love the super shotgun with the both barrels blessing. Solves my rager problem when using Eviscerator, so i can just go ham.
@BCvictoria
@BCvictoria 12 күн бұрын
Got a double barrel with Scattershot and Both Barrels at level 4! It's such a fun gun on the Zealot, and honestly the range isn't terrible. It's got a really fun "turn around, tweak out and unlock both barrels Into a target" fun factor 😂
@light819
@light819 Ай бұрын
I feel like both barrels is a pretty bad blessing just because you lose so much value by firing both barrels and because the reload is not nearly as fast as "70% faster" should be. I think this is something similar to drg's double barrel where one of the mods increased the reload speed but not the delay time between the shot and the reload taking place. if anything that 70% feels like 20 or 30% at most to me
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
I'd say its 70% but that's still not amazing. I think its a good way to up DPS if you're running deathspitter into enemy groups.
@Batlord_Carcas
@Batlord_Carcas Ай бұрын
By my experience unless you have your secondary fire queued while reloading it does do what it's supposed to do for rapid reload and fire of both barrels, I have only had trouble with how mine is paired with full bore it does kill yet feels like something was not full stopping power
@Ragnarok6664
@Ragnarok6664 6 күн бұрын
That shotty is just too good and too much fun, for both vet and zealot it works a treat
@infectedanimal9830
@infectedanimal9830 Ай бұрын
My comment got deleted and I watched a bit further so I’m rewriting this. The loadout editor mod talked about at 7:26 is called loadout config and is only on the modding discord, I’ve used it myself and it makes testing so much easier especially when paired with bot spawner, definitely worth doing a follow up vid after trying it
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
Thanks. I'll wait for it come out on nexus then. But I was able to test everything that needed testing so I'm satisfied with the tutorial in its current state.
@infectedanimal9830
@infectedanimal9830 Ай бұрын
@@Reginald-sc9tkit might be useful in future for other weapons, the dev also seems to have up and left with no updates since February (for comparison the most recent message on the thread was in june asking when it’s coming to nexus) so it’s best just get, also believes it automatically allows access to new weapons/blessing etc but that could be my memory acting up Anyway thanks for the reply and best of luck on future vids
@pirx9798
@pirx9798 Ай бұрын
​@@Reginald-sc9tkcorrect. Loadout config and monster spawner are tremendously useful and should be part of the psykanium. I also want to get it from Nexus, don't quite trust mods from discords.
@thehazellator
@thehazellator Ай бұрын
Your videos are top tier
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
Thanks very much! I'm trying to do them faster but maintain the same level of execution. Its tough so if there's things that were obviously misses I'll take the feedback.
@Highlander1432
@Highlander1432 29 күн бұрын
My noob mind literally was going to choose the weakest belssings you mentioned haha Thanks for giving clarity on the blessings!
@MoguMagu-k6d
@MoguMagu-k6d Ай бұрын
Finally sum damn good food. awesome video dawg, This is the kind of content I've been desperately searching for!
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
I try to bring as much quality as I can.
@xoersummoner1336
@xoersummoner1336 Ай бұрын
One thing to consider, I think that each pellet of the shotgun can trigger the Psyker's Brain blast on hit. The amount of times it triggers for me is insane for it to not be the case, specially on the double shot, since there's more pellets.
@Joseph-mw2rl
@Joseph-mw2rl Ай бұрын
I don't know why it's called manstopper instead of horde-cleaver
@F0XRunner
@F0XRunner Ай бұрын
These videos are great. Thanks for all the info.
@valeon7303
@valeon7303 Ай бұрын
My VERY first roll was run and gun. I immediately made a sprint build and it is the most fun i have had in darktide since I got my first heavy evicerator
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
Hell yea
@Earliersphere
@Earliersphere Ай бұрын
Thanks for the vid reg, and yeah I'm stuck waiting on seeing the manstopper. you going to do the shock mual next?
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
That's what I'm thinkin, yes.
@oxmor
@oxmor Ай бұрын
Fwi run and gun tightens the bullet spread and gets more shots on target. W blessing
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
It does, but I think the weaknesses i mentioned are the real make or break.
@oxmor
@oxmor Ай бұрын
@@Reginald-sc9tk You have improperly assessed the blessing, its functions, and capabilities. Review the blessing further and address the misunderstandings.
@Charlys787
@Charlys787 Ай бұрын
Nice summarize, now I must try this doomstick with manstopper and flechette.
@definitelynotadam
@definitelynotadam Ай бұрын
I've managed to BUY a decent blue Hacker with Man-Stopper from the shop. Unheard of.
@Gobeldeg00p
@Gobeldeg00p Ай бұрын
oooohhhh man I might need to reinstall darktide just to try this beast out
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
Its fun, but if you don't want to play roulette with your mats maybe just wait for the crafting update lmao.
@Gobeldeg00p
@Gobeldeg00p Ай бұрын
@@Reginald-sc9tk haha fair nuff might be worth it to be a little more patient
@condemnedcatbiceps
@condemnedcatbiceps Ай бұрын
Another CLASSIC Reginald post! Real ones remember
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
He remembers!
@bwolfeman
@bwolfeman Ай бұрын
The one I’ve been having the most fun with is with my veteran: +8% ranged damage elites +10% reload speed #4 both barrels #4 speedload
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
Ironically I am also liking it more on my vet than my zealot.
@scootyman3800
@scootyman3800 Ай бұрын
The fuck anything too close to me gun and I love it
@a.a5983
@a.a5983 Ай бұрын
Manstopper and run n gun feel so good on all 3 classes. Havent rolled flechette yet.
@kronosDking
@kronosDking Ай бұрын
I feel like so often the Hacker fails to kill a single special or elite when you shoot both barrels to the point where I just feel like I'd rather use the Revolver. I think it needs better spread at the very least, and perhaps a bit of a damage bump as well.
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
It really is like a sub 15m weapon. Its good for what it is and provides a new play style but little competes with revolver right now so its a bad comparison. Revolver is literally SSS tier and plasma is like S tier and then you have all the other guns. Columnus IAG is probably S or better.
@kronosDking
@kronosDking Ай бұрын
@@Reginald-sc9tk Fair enough. What tier would you place this weapon then? It's feeling like a B to me.
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
@@kronosDking B
@engie3953
@engie3953 Ай бұрын
I fucking love how intricate and informative this video is i havent played in fucking ages and im gonna go in with this build and be able to kick ass thank you
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
Happy to do it. I try to be precise but detailed, so I don't waste people's time.
@it_Nexus562
@it_Nexus562 Ай бұрын
so many people saw the doom super shotgun but might i suggest an alternative. Scout from tf2
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
Its just effective branding. I thought of something entirely else, personally.
@it_Nexus562
@it_Nexus562 Ай бұрын
@@Reginald-sc9tk fair nuff. Tho speaking of scout, the gun works well with a scout vet playstyle. Basically high speed shotguns
@Mithguar
@Mithguar Ай бұрын
now you can cosplay Doom Slayer xD
@PCKodachi
@PCKodachi Ай бұрын
My fav firearm in Darktide now. Become one with the shells. 🚀✨️ Thanks! Kommissar Reg.
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
Always happy to help a loyalist blast heretics.
@PCKodachi
@PCKodachi Ай бұрын
@@Reginald-sc9tk Unspike the Spiky Ones!
@Cederlof_Ink
@Cederlof_Ink Ай бұрын
Im waiting to test anything else.. used up so many mats trying some of the other new stuff.. I will hold off till they make the crafting changes before II try this out, but it looks fun.
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
Honestlt DON'T craft it. Instead just keep an eye out for manstopper in the armory. Then craft a good roll, slap manstopper on, and run a crit build. It'll be good enough to enjoy if you do that.
@Cederlof_Ink
@Cederlof_Ink Ай бұрын
@@Reginald-sc9tk Ill definitely do this I think. I got excited with the new crap and spent so much materials I had piled up and kinda burned out remembering why I hate the crafting system haha. Ill give the manstopper crit build a go, haven't played Vet in a while. I will say, the new pickaxe on Ogryn has be playing him again, and its pretty awesome having a new weapon on them lol.
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
@@Cederlof_Ink I really like the picks, they're really fun weapons.
@Cederlof_Ink
@Cederlof_Ink Ай бұрын
@Reginald-sc9tk I was playing last night on my ogryn, Tiny. Was basically able to just stand my ground against waves of enemies and almost never die. Definitely love the heaviest pick, slow, but hits hard and staggers most stuff. I did play a game with a vet using the shotgun, made me want to try it again haha. I'm waiting for that crafting update though.
@Xhaleon
@Xhaleon Ай бұрын
Problem with short-range guns in a Tide game is you have a dedicated short-range option in your other hand already, and this Tide has many dangerous long-range enemies. Seems logical that the best class pairing is one that has innate ranged abilities like throwing knives. I will have to chase the Manstopper blessing somehow.
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
I totally agree with you but like anything in the tide games, you can make it work if you figure out the more shooting gallery areas.
@michaelkolano8686
@michaelkolano8686 Ай бұрын
I wonder if full bore is extra useful with the spread reduction skills veteran has, or if anyone else has any better
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
You certainly can use it more if you have something like dance of death. But I'm not sure its worth it specifically on this shotgun.
@michaelkolano8686
@michaelkolano8686 Ай бұрын
I have a bit of a soft spot for reducing spread on shotguns as much as possible in all sorts of games. Not only does it make your range a bit longer in practice by only being affected by falloff, but taking a weapon that's designed around hitting every enemy in a room, and putting every instance of damage between a person's eyes often has spicy results
@IVIOLDY
@IVIOLDY Ай бұрын
What are you PC specs? Saw your frames are great even in heavy combat
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
I dont have them on hand but its an RTX 4090 and an I9 on a top shelf rig.
@IVIOLDY
@IVIOLDY Ай бұрын
@@Reginald-sc9tk oh sheeit very nice
@mizranozahara968
@mizranozahara968 Ай бұрын
Okay so it wasn't just me. Why did they buff Gunners? Kind of wanna know the reason for buffing one of the most aggravating enemies in the game.
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
I think it was incidental to buffing shooters. Shooters need the buff, maybe not stalkers. But gunners didn't. They need other things.
@mizranozahara968
@mizranozahara968 Ай бұрын
@@Reginald-sc9tk Ah, I see. Also, I didn't realize there was a mechanical Distinction between Stalkers and Shooters other than in name and appearance. Wonder if we'll ever see Dreg Stalkers.
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
@@mizranozahara968 Technically speaking dreg shooters are dreg stalkers repurposed. Scab stalkers will walk around while firing and move to melee. Scab shooters will generally retreat and try to fire from covered positions.
@Jester4460
@Jester4460 Ай бұрын
My build can one shot all enemies but a carapace but it knocks down carapace completely and for them I have a chain saw
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
You can certainly build for that with the right talents but its highly niche and feels bad compared to other options I feel.
@Jester4460
@Jester4460 Ай бұрын
@@Reginald-sc9tk i often work best with niche
@gemmahilton1271
@gemmahilton1271 Ай бұрын
Manstopper, 80% damage 25% carapace hacker + a spike shoval special can one to 2 tap crushers and maulers I tested this myself
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
Doesn't the folding shovel handle crushers all by itself, there's no real reason to shoot them first?
@gemmahilton1271
@gemmahilton1271 Ай бұрын
@Reginald-sc9tk the shot helps stagger and takes a good chunk of health Helps speed up taking them out as vet
@gemmahilton1271
@gemmahilton1271 Ай бұрын
@Reginald-sc9tk plus I seem to find my self in the situation of "why emperor when I'm out of krak grenades do you spawn a crusher hoard on me while my team is busy off doing nurgle knows what"
@OmegaViper
@OmegaViper Ай бұрын
I personally feel this could use more spread and more damage
@pyark
@pyark Ай бұрын
It's fun but not as viable as plasma or the new bolt pistol as far as I have tested.
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
Can't say I agree. The bolt pistol is pretty mid and the shotgun does some things the plasma gun does better than even it. Though plasma is obviously goated. For many reasons. Manstopper is insane.
@JohnWick-kb5jr
@JohnWick-kb5jr Ай бұрын
I think the bolt pistol is better due to being able to snipe shooters, specials, and elites(as a veteran). The shotgun can be devastating, but I find it lacking when you come across a bunch of shooters/ gunners that are out of range. I’ve had a lot of fun moments with the double barrel, but also some frustrating ones when my team isn’t built to deal with shooters.
@spectre722
@spectre722 Ай бұрын
Why do people always compare everything to the Plasma Gun. Of course it's viable - it is the most overpowered weapon in the game.
@jhorbirnlokrisson6528
@jhorbirnlokrisson6528 Ай бұрын
Not ogryn double barrel i wanted.... but it's better then nothing...
@thunder2434
@thunder2434 Ай бұрын
100 Dudes!!!
@LZRCuteR
@LZRCuteR Ай бұрын
Where did you come from. Subbed
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
I've just been lurking in the dark corners of youtube for an age. I appreciate the sub!
@action-nerd
@action-nerd Ай бұрын
I thought you'd given up on Darktide
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
Only while there was no content. I'm apparently not the only one enthusiastic about it.
@augerl8935
@augerl8935 17 күн бұрын
Big love the double barrel shotgun, and I wanna know where I am able to get the basic data like in 0:39 and the code in 8:32 It confused me a lot because of the terrible game tutorial.
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk 16 күн бұрын
Data like that is in the weapon inspect menu but also check out games lantern. The code is in a repository and you'll want to track down the modding discord and go from there.
@augerl8935
@augerl8935 15 күн бұрын
@@Reginald-sc9tk did u mean I need some mods or “game data extractor” to extract the code? Is it allowed or not?
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk 14 күн бұрын
@@augerl8935 no i mean the code is in a github repository but I don't have the link on hand, you'd need to follow up with the discord (online chat app) for the modding community.
@augerl8935
@augerl8935 13 күн бұрын
​@@Reginald-sc9tk LMAO, ok, I will follow your instructions. TBH, I know the meaning of "discord", and joined A community via STEAM.
@augerl8935
@augerl8935 13 күн бұрын
​@@Reginald-sc9tk Your video is organized very clearly, and the evidence supports your view well. I like your talk style and it is great to learn a lot about Darktide
@a.c413
@a.c413 Ай бұрын
2:50 I think you can find nicer wall in the game for testing
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
why don't you just tell me which one.
@roboflex3162
@roboflex3162 Ай бұрын
WHY NO MELTA
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
WHY NO MELTA!!!!!!!!????
@westernlynx396
@westernlynx396 Ай бұрын
Love your vids. Have my babies.
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
Thanks! I can't! But I can make more videos.
@Beastbrush
@Beastbrush Ай бұрын
If only it was available on playstation.
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
I hear it could be on the docket.
@Hateful_Psycho
@Hateful_Psycho Ай бұрын
The people designing these guns are gun nuts aren’t they?
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
Definitely. I am one so I feel like they know their stuff.
@GroBoiD7777
@GroBoiD7777 Ай бұрын
worst wall for pellets testing )
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
Tell me a better one. I couldn't think of a single bright smoothe wall in darktide
@VisibleToeHead
@VisibleToeHead Ай бұрын
Percentages and spreadsheets, real fun game. Might as well play Excel.
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
The game involves none of this, just go hit heretics. The spreadsheets are so people can understand the large volume of often undetailed stats that are at play so they can get better.
@mileator
@mileator Ай бұрын
Damn shame the Ogryn shotgun still sucks.
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
Kickback is one of the strongest guns in the game though
@mileator
@mileator Ай бұрын
@Reginald-sc9tk Man, is it? Because it does not one-shot mutants like the double barrel, double pump does. I'm level 19 with my Ogryn (His name is "Handsome"), and I'm still struggling with getting consistent matador kills against mutants.
@troller9838
@troller9838 Ай бұрын
Too bad the double barrel shotgun is a weak weapon, it suffers from video game shotgun syndrome, meaning the devs are scared to make it powerful, so you just end up with a mediocre or bad weapon. Like the effective range is way too short to deal with specials in 1shot (can't even kill poxbursters with both barrels lol), the damage looks good on paper, but doesn't seem to be enough and half the blessings are dog water. I think all the new weapons are mediocre apart from the Pickaxes which are a solid A or S tier depending on which one you use. Hopefully the devs will buff the new non-pickaxe weapons in the next update.
@darkdwarf007
@darkdwarf007 Ай бұрын
I think it's merely a game design thing, not devs being scared or something
@Tyrgalon
@Tyrgalon Ай бұрын
Its very powerful at closer ranges, there are a ton of (veteran) weapons that are specifically good at long range already.
@troller9838
@troller9838 Ай бұрын
@@Tyrgalon Yeah it can be good sometimes, but other times it's just feels like a sneeze gun. I think I'd put the double barrel into high C tier, maybe low B tier, but it's got quite a lot of limitations compared to other weapons. I hope it sees a small range buff and small damage buff to make breakpoints more consistent, then it will be perfect, a true super shotgun. Some of the blessings could use a looking at as well.
@Tyrgalon
@Tyrgalon Ай бұрын
@@troller9838 Its best for a close quarters vet build that does a lot of melee and swaps between them a lot. It shines with the talent that loads ammo after a melee kill allowing you quickly pull it out and blast anything in front of you with 1 shot. If you want a dedicated gun shoot good at more than close range then the other shotguns are for that.
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
I don't agree that it's weak at all. Running a pretty typical shout-specialist vet build you can easily top frag and top damage. It does have weaknesses but its fun that weapons have down sides. If you want a shotty with range try the agripinaa or law bringer.
@CharlesRichelieu-hv7sn
@CharlesRichelieu-hv7sn Ай бұрын
shotguns are trash in DT and the double barrel is no different.
@Robert-wf7xu
@Robert-wf7xu Ай бұрын
Yeach, you need to have ranged option to eliminate elites harassing your team. Double Barrel is bassicly second meele option lol
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
Weird take.
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
@@Robert-wf7xu You don't even need a gun to beat auric maelstrom.
@CharlesRichelieu-hv7sn
@CharlesRichelieu-hv7sn Ай бұрын
@@Reginald-sc9tk cope.
@Tyrgalon
@Tyrgalon Ай бұрын
This is the definition of "skill issue" Im afraid.
@sharcblazer99
@sharcblazer99 Ай бұрын
Leave it to fatshark to drop the ball on a stupid easy weapon. This game sucks.
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
Why do you think they dropped the ball exactly?
@Robert-wf7xu
@Robert-wf7xu Ай бұрын
Imagine spending 9 minutes on explaining shit tier weapon 😂
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk Ай бұрын
Thats my brand.
@Tyrgalon
@Tyrgalon Ай бұрын
OR you could get good at the game so its stops being bad in YOUR hands? ;)
@Robert-wf7xu
@Robert-wf7xu Ай бұрын
@@Tyrgalon sorry I have life and don't have time to put another full time job into making two shot low range low penetration weapon good I just take revolver and poop heads mid combo
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