The EG Files Part 1: Evil Origins and the Rise of Alex Garfield (The Four Horsemen S3E4)

Рет қаралды 39,702

Күн бұрын

Richard Lewis, Thorin, and MonteCristo begin the mini-series "The EG Files" by discussing how Evil Geniuses was formed, the team's time in Quake, Starcraft 2, and early Counter-Strike, Alex Garfield's cut-throat rise in power, EG's spike in popularity with signing players like HuK & IdrA, their handling of media, their Twitch era, and more.
Get 50% off FACTOR meals at www.factormeals.com/horsemen50 with code horsemen50. High-quality, never-frozen meals delivered to your home!
The Four Horsemen is the premier esports industry show that reacts to important news and critical conversations across all major titles. Esports veterans Duncan "Thorin" Shields, Richard Lewis, and Christopher "MonteCristo" Mykles use their decades of experience to shed light and debate on key esports topics as they emerge. Each episode they are joined by an expert guest to help further provide insider information on the topic at hand.
This episode was filmed on March 10th, 2024.
Watch The Four Horsemen on Spotify with video:
open.spotify.com/show/2NBATCQ...
Listen to The Four Horsemen on these audio platforms!
Apple: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
Google: podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0...
Pocket Casts: pca.st/ucw0inmo
Pandora: www.pandora.com/podcast/the-f...
iHeart: iheart.com/podcast/104246987/
Come join the Insight on Esports Discord for in-depth discussion across esports: / discord
0:00:00 - Intro
0:10:44 - EG begins
0:22:13 - Alex Garfield rises
1:08:39 - Post CGS era
1:45:41 - Twitch era
2:27:38 - Closing thoughts
#podcast
#esports
#esportspodcast

Пікірлер: 83

@evanblaylock2750 4 ай бұрын

People hate on Thoorin but he's actually so true we'd miss a lot of historical context and content without his contribution to the scene. He's done a lot more than most players tbh

@iRiDiKi 4 ай бұрын

It's kinda crazy the parallel between one of the people they mentioned and him - Destiny. Both hated for being "edgy" and prescribed all these horrible things, yet they've done more for the things those very haters claim to stand for than they will ever do.

@chombers 3 ай бұрын

@@iRiDiKiexcept Destiny is a cringe breadtuber pseudo-leftist political charlatan.

@emillarsson1299 11 күн бұрын

@@iRiDiKiAre you defending the guy who says people deserve to die for attending rallies? Weird look for you

@Emilmossing 4 ай бұрын

the loss of incontrol hit me like a truck, one of the few people i randomly knew in the sc2 scene, still a shocker everytime some old memoriest pop up on insta/facebook. you're missed goeff, hope you doing well my friend

@Shreddasaurus 4 ай бұрын

Him and TB passing was a huge loss in many ways, miss them both.

@hewasnotjoggin9943 4 ай бұрын

He was not incontrol of his weight LOLOLOL

@Shreddasaurus 4 ай бұрын

@@hewasnotjoggin9943 Obvious troll, but in case people wonder. Geoff lost a lot of weight and was at a pretty good spot health wise when he died. Just really shit rng.

@vysion12 4 ай бұрын

@@Shreddasaurushe died from a blood clot in his leg, from sitting down all the time, wasnt totally rng keep moving ppl!

@Xzibitfreek 4 ай бұрын

@@hewasnotjoggin9943 what a tasteless comment

@danboing3864 4 ай бұрын

I only knew about incontrol tangentially because he occasionally appeared on TotalBiscuit's content, but it was still such a shock when he died out of nowhere. Rest in peace.

@vojtechtax9723 4 ай бұрын

That was an unexpectedly cinematic intro, well done. Love the voice line at the end "remember, we're evil" so fitting

@Pyt3x 4 ай бұрын

kino stuff

@jasonbeatty1055 4 ай бұрын

Monte's laugh about the "I'm literally shaking" joke made me laugh so hard

@beldaras6787 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for providing historical context to EG. Really appreciate what yall do for Esports.

@DasBaum123321 4 ай бұрын

RIP InControl. And thanks for the takeTV flashbacks Richard

@GigiGreatorex 4 ай бұрын

''keep going ill get a sweat on'' has me folded thorin is so funny without even trying

@perdyIo 4 ай бұрын

Talking about Jacob Wolf and EG, let's not forget that EG sponsored Jacob's offseason show

@gregoryhilton5315 4 ай бұрын

this series is gonna be so goated

@Astr0tune 4 ай бұрын

Was wondering when he would come up. RIP iNcontroL. Despite all the drama during that time, he kept a good balance. A little surprised his youtube retrospective on EG wasn't mentioned. Very insightful.

@DasBaum123321 4 ай бұрын

> his youtube retrospective on EG link?

@Astr0tune 4 ай бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aMxjqtKZqLHQmKM.htmlsi=aRbLhTpVYT1SUY5V

@Astr0tune 4 ай бұрын

@@DasBaum123321 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aMxjqtKZqLHQmKM.htmlsi=aRbLhTpVYT1SUY5V

@Astr0tune 4 ай бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aMxjqtKZqLHQmKM.htmlsi=aRbLhTpVYT1SUY5V

@Astr0tune 4 ай бұрын

@@DasBaum123321 Can't seem to link, search "Geoff Robinson My beginnings with Evil Geniuses". There are 3 videos, about an hour each.

@LetsPlayBojangles 4 ай бұрын

Man when Richard drops a Weyland-Yutani reference you know its bad.

@toxichazmat5785 4 ай бұрын

Travis "I dated her for two weeks a while back so I cannot comment" Gafford

@pinksyllibus 4 ай бұрын

Great recap of esports history, thanks.

@strindler234 4 ай бұрын

Don't keep up with esports much anymore but content from you guys is always worth watching

@that1kiN 4 ай бұрын

I will really love listening to this series of videos. The bl00dsh0t, ReD-DraGoN, In_Flames, blackpanther, and quad line up of EG was on of the first team I ever followed when I started playing CS in 2004. Its still crazy to me the EG org still exists in some way but also sad that history of so many random teams I liked has just faded away. Look up the Sword of Stevenson and EG About Average for a glimpse into the EG team of that era.

@Selendeki 4 ай бұрын

Super interesting stuff, especially when you put into context Alex Garfield and what he was saying back then

@pinkfloydfan22 4 ай бұрын

This was really fun,great to hear the old stories of EG

@misterkefir 4 ай бұрын

Easily the most important show in e-sports right now (been for quite a while, actually). Informative, entertaining.. Spicy just the way I like it. Thank You for your work, gentlemen. Cheers.

@pandemoenium7933 4 ай бұрын

This intro was absolute 🔥

@iamosoli493 4 ай бұрын

Intro was so well made wtf

@Greaperk11 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for this guys :)

@adamberg7532 4 ай бұрын

Geoff Incontroll Robinsson would be perfect for thid episode, En Taro Incontroll 😢❤

@wilkinlow 4 ай бұрын

I appreciate the intro ❤

@bradclarke7874 4 ай бұрын

I remember trying to find some sort of documentary on the EG scandals last week. Eeryie timing for this to come out.

@samsharpe787 4 ай бұрын

What an amazing episode. Gotta say Alex was a fucking legend with how he ran his shit. Earned both the evil and genius title of his org.

@harlemz 4 ай бұрын

59:57 Had to dig deep to find the episode of inside the game where Alex Garfield debates slasher

@awareclueless 4 ай бұрын

Ive been waiting patentiently and now I am FEASTING

@Shreddasaurus 4 ай бұрын

God I miss the early sc2 days, what a ride it was.

@idontgetit2195 4 ай бұрын

Maybe another Files episode could be on TSM since they seem to be largely pulling out of esport. They were basically the org in the NA and West following the fall of EG.

@ronlanders7354 4 ай бұрын

The best intro in this channel lol

@Xxxepil 4 ай бұрын

Banger Intro !

@elephantisland695 4 ай бұрын

TSM/TL/C9 definitely got up to more shady stuff behind the scenes cant wait till we hear more lmao

@whatsupwithwhatsup1212 4 ай бұрын

absolut 🔥intro video

@unclesweetmeme2366 4 ай бұрын

I see Rich is a fellow alumni with his UNT mug.

@uncleryze5049 4 ай бұрын

It's finally fucking here I'm so hyped

@NeoArcon 4 ай бұрын

Been waiting for this to drop.

@SauceAppleEater_2885 4 ай бұрын

Got the popcorn. Let's go.

@Hax187 4 ай бұрын

You know this shit is gonna be a banger episode

@pointyball2916 4 ай бұрын

its HERE

@NaZtRdAmUs 4 ай бұрын

Still got my EG Jeadong jersey even though it doesn't fit anymore.

@TheFearUnlimited 4 ай бұрын

Oh this gonna be good

@cameronmackie6651 4 ай бұрын

BTN vibes on this one, man I miss that show

@qBeYcarpet 4 ай бұрын

Alex Garfield wanted to have his lasagna and eat it too. Really interesting listen👌

@oversharingturtle4462 4 ай бұрын

Babe wake up a new four horsemen dropped

@jarojoro7337 4 ай бұрын

Grow up, Alex. This is where you need to be involved. Push it. Or it was for nothing, how would we know.

@Nugget40385 2 ай бұрын

not me imagining andrew garfield every time they talk about alex lmao

@ronlanders7354 4 ай бұрын

2:20:39 Yes richard, reporters can be manipulated. Gov agents do this to news reporters all the time.

@thekevinc 2 ай бұрын

LMAO they thought badawi was backed by shkreli thats amazing

@isaacbragg-gardiner2456 4 ай бұрын

I hope they cover world champion bang going suicidal at EG

@jimmybobhead44 4 ай бұрын

Would love to see kassad as the guest for the next episode, would be fun to see a couple hours of him railing EG 😂

@RandyWiafe 4 ай бұрын

Man I miss incontrol :(

@slimryda866 4 ай бұрын

Wow fucking great intro holy moley

@alwhiting 4 ай бұрын

ooooooooof I remember that "fake black" team what blast from the past

@13thforswarn 4 ай бұрын

Fresh off the presses 😮

@EduardoSilva-qw4ps 4 ай бұрын

New revenue plan for teams with in game sales for LCK, LCS and LEC. 4 horsemen i summon thee *edit grammar fix

@doom7872 4 ай бұрын

Sad you couldn't get the oldguard defacto EG shill djwheat for this

@Shreddasaurus 4 ай бұрын

Very glad they didnt get him

@HeLLraiSa911 4 ай бұрын

👍

@broefkip 4 ай бұрын

The state of esports is actually so bad. This intro, which is amazing, is already a better piece of content than most orgs/leagues produce all year and I'm only 00:59 seconds into this video....

@gonzalotoscano3310 4 ай бұрын

I said it once and will say it again. Monte, Richard and Thorin seem legit and trustworthy but are they the Sean Conery of journalism? Highly doubt it.

@Madplatty 4 ай бұрын

im gold2 in sc2 and i bet id destroy any of these guys in a 1v1. They preach about esports and i respect them, but id apreciate these guys still playing the games they talk about so if they wanna play hmu im gold.

@KeenJT 4 ай бұрын

I miss the EG player jerseys plastered FULL of sponsors in SC2. They were the gold standard. Now they are the standard in wokeness.

@CxerRy96 4 ай бұрын

EG did one of the biggest disservices to women in esports and corporate in general btw, two completely incompetent women given power positions as a courtesy run into the ground a multi-decade franchise

@mauriciobetimpaesleme8702 4 ай бұрын

1:07:55 Are we still counting getting women as a W? Don't want to discredit the video because that segue has nothing to do with EG... but yeah, it did rub me the wrong way.