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Today we discuss "The Player of Games" one of the most thought provoking books in Iain Bank's Culture series. In this book we encounter a society whose entire social order is based upon a complex game.
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@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune Жыл бұрын
That's interesting because Azad in Arabic/Farsi/Kurdish means unrestrained, Independent, liberated, not imprisoned or enslaved or simply "free."
@levimnm9152
@levimnm9152 Жыл бұрын
Who asked ? Nobody cares.
@ConkerKing
@ConkerKing Жыл бұрын
And that is the cynical lie at the heart of this ruling system...
@hellablackie4523
@hellablackie4523 Жыл бұрын
@@levimnm9152bro get a fucking life and please partake in some deep introspection
@Adamlevaan
@Adamlevaan Жыл бұрын
@@levimnm9152 u clearly do care😀
@davidwuhrer6704
@davidwuhrer6704 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. Banks liked to put obscure cultural references in his earlier books. I think the name is not a coincidence.
@eduardo318
@eduardo318 Жыл бұрын
Love the book, it also show how far the Culture goes to intervene in others civilization. Even on their own people.
@lostbutfreesoul
@lostbutfreesoul Жыл бұрын
I will always find that one line in the book, where Jernau asks if he was created for this purpose and is *not informed* of the answer... perfect.
@JDSleeper
@JDSleeper Жыл бұрын
They're very not-Federation. They don't have a Prime Directive. They love to interfere.
@Tiberon098
@Tiberon098 Жыл бұрын
I was good, probably one of the best sci-fi novels I have read in a long time
@hughcaldwell1034
@hughcaldwell1034 Жыл бұрын
​@@lostbutfreesoul I believe he is given an answer. Flere Imsaho says, "You're wondering if we somehow set you up..." and goes on to say that if the Culture did stuff like that, it wouldn't need outside mercenaries to do "the really dirty work".
@dreadogastusf3548
@dreadogastusf3548 Жыл бұрын
"The good of the many versus the good of the one."
@jtjames79
@jtjames79 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of an old hacker saying "if you aren't cheating you aren't trying".
@carolynallisee2463
@carolynallisee2463 Жыл бұрын
'The Player of Games' was the first Culture novel I read, courtesy of a colleague who was part of the book swap club I was in. What I enjoyed, and enjoy, about the Culture series is that whilst each is part of the series, the series universe is so vast that each book can stand by itself- you don't have to read any of the others unless you want to. 'The Player of Games' takes the idea of the game through many different levels. Even the identity of the narrator is turned into a guessing game. For Gurgeh, the lack of thrills in gaming and life in general in the Culture, leads him down a dark path whose dangers are far more than he bargained for. To then find out he had been literally played, his every move plotted, planned, and shaped so that he would take the assignment regardless, showed him that, as good as he was at playing games, there were others who were better, and didn't scruple at using people as game pieces to get the desired results.
@ArtemisScribe
@ArtemisScribe Жыл бұрын
It was the first book I read in the Culture too. And I loved it but I've struggled to get into the others. Is there one you would recommend that has a similar feel to Player of Games?
@carolynallisee2463
@carolynallisee2463 Жыл бұрын
@@ArtemisScribe I don't think there is another that feels like 'Player of Games'. Whilst they all end with the situation in them being resolved (but not without cost to some characters), some end in a lighter mood, others, darker. The only one I can think of where the protagonist ends up in a kind of neutral state is 'The Hydrogen Sonata ', the very last SF book Banks wrote.
@skateboardingjesus4006
@skateboardingjesus4006 Жыл бұрын
@@carolynallisee2463 Ah yes, the bodily acoustic antagonistic undecagonstring. A tad on the hard side to play. The Hydrogen Sonata had me laughing a lot.
@Shamino1
@Shamino1 Жыл бұрын
@@ArtemisScribe Try 'Inversions' for the least Culture-Culture book, or 'Excession' for the most Culture Culture book.
@CCCW
@CCCW 4 ай бұрын
Exactly. As vast and incomprehensible as the game Azad might seem, the Minds of the culture are basically playing a far more complex version of it, over the whole galaxy. And neither their true motives, nor their identity is revealed.
@NRG2
@NRG2 3 ай бұрын
I like Quinn’s little added passion in this video. He doesn’t usually make his own beliefs apparent but something was rather triggering to him on this topic.
@leostarrs-cunningham8576
@leostarrs-cunningham8576 Жыл бұрын
I've always wondered how much it was influenced by The Glass Bead Game by Herman Hesse
@abdulhameedansari9459
@abdulhameedansari9459 Жыл бұрын
Ghost in the shell! Laughing man. Didn't s ee
@user-he8rl4sm3k
@user-he8rl4sm3k Жыл бұрын
@@abdulhameedansari9459 I thought what'd I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf mutes.
@RendallRen
@RendallRen Жыл бұрын
Great insight! I think essential. I'm sure this book would not have been written if The Glass Bead Game had not been written.
@JRussellDay
@JRussellDay Жыл бұрын
Yeah was gonna say, its definitely worth at least looking at the glass bead game for a comparison.
@dalellll
@dalellll Жыл бұрын
The way Banks created tension in the train scene, when the other guy starts to suspect he has cheated, blew me away when i first read it. I was amazed at the way he solved the old problem of "how do you have conflict and tension in a utopian society" in that scene - in a different way than the usual method of setting the story on the fringes.
@tagair211
@tagair211 Жыл бұрын
This book was my gateway into the Culture series. Really enjoyed it
@modolief
@modolief Жыл бұрын
Me too!
@pyronixcore
@pyronixcore Жыл бұрын
Mine as well! Loved it! Then I was advised to go back to Consider Phlebas and follow the book chronology
@herbf2700
@herbf2700 Жыл бұрын
I loved this book! The description of the game was so fascinating. The game was never entirely explained, but aspects of it were so weird. The biologicals. The room sized boards with terrain. I think I'm going to re-read this one.
@lostbutfreesoul
@lostbutfreesoul Жыл бұрын
I admire that move, to never explain how the game was played but to hint that it has components of every other game. There is a reason I consider Iain M. Banks to be a genius, even if his actual writing ability is less then his creativity.
@JRussellDay
@JRussellDay Жыл бұрын
If you liked the game, definitely check out "the glass bead game" by Hermann Hesse, it's an obvious influence on this book and has those same game features.
@ZamWeazle
@ZamWeazle Жыл бұрын
@@JRussellDay Ulesss Banks mentioned it somewhere it can only be speculated that it was an influence. Some may stories and concepts have similarities but unless he read it. We won't actually know
@MyMarsham
@MyMarsham Жыл бұрын
Quinn, staying with The Culture, I’d love to hear your take on _Use Of Weapons._ This is my favourite of the Culture series, and Zakalwe is probably one of my favourite literary characters.
@cdrain68
@cdrain68 Жыл бұрын
This is one of Elon Musk's favourite books, so much that his ex Grimes released a song called "Player of Games" and there was an attempt to make a film of it in the 1990s though I doubt that there will be a Culture based series for many years.
@AlbertaGeek
@AlbertaGeek Жыл бұрын
It is? That's ironic. Musk liking this book is like those right-wingers who enjoy Rage Against The Machine. They're both clueless that _they're_ "the baddies."
@idc0459
@idc0459 Жыл бұрын
Also has a song about darkseid. The one who controls a large part of the world with what is more or less technology. Funny how that works, right
@dreyri2736
@dreyri2736 6 ай бұрын
​@@idc0459 Musk evidently does not control a "large part of the world" Left-wingers have a very skewed perception and idea of power and how it works but that's normal for a group that continually misconstrues their own language by turning words like "privilege" into something they are not.
@danieldufaur
@danieldufaur Жыл бұрын
One of my all time favourite books. I'm a massive fan of all the Culture books as well as all of Ian Banks work. This was the second book I read after Consider Phlebas which I think is the best intro to the Culture.
@neutral_10
@neutral_10 Жыл бұрын
Wait is Player of Games the best intro or Consider Phlebas?
@danieldufaur
@danieldufaur Жыл бұрын
@@neutral_10 Either really but for me Consider Phlebas is the best intro but Player of Games is also a great first Iain M Banks Culture book.
@nilothesage
@nilothesage Жыл бұрын
I just wanna say thank you for everything you talk about on this channel. I grew up on the rez, so a lot of significant sci-fi pop culture went past my radar. Thanks to you Quinn, I feel like I'm catching up amd learning so much about hidden themes and meaningful messaging. Thank you
@MrJudeWanamaker
@MrJudeWanamaker Жыл бұрын
I grew up unaware of most of sci-fi and also love this channel for the spot light it shines of such wonderful books
@mohammedarmanulhaq
@mohammedarmanulhaq Жыл бұрын
If u like this channel, u will surely love "Media Death Cult" channel too🤘
@skateboardingjesus4006
@skateboardingjesus4006 Жыл бұрын
There are some good sci-fi channels out there, but I have a fondness for the attention to context and the appropriate mood Quinn brings to his content.
@davidwuhrer6704
@davidwuhrer6704 Жыл бұрын
What is "the rez"?
@MRAIClassroom
@MRAIClassroom Жыл бұрын
Speaking for the poster… the rez is a term for “an Indian reservation”
@alistairewu7368
@alistairewu7368 Жыл бұрын
I was pleasantly surprised to see "Uploaded 2 hours ago". I discovered the series last year and have just finished reading the last of them. It's sad that such a talented author passed away before his time, but it's great to see that people are still talking about the Culture books :)
@annesofiestisen239
@annesofiestisen239 Жыл бұрын
Loosing him and Terry Pratchett, both such great storytellers, so close to each other, was such a blow to my reading- desire for a loooong time.
@robertvernon789
@robertvernon789 Жыл бұрын
Not passed before his time. His works moved me and made me question many things. His work was right on time. RIP Mr. Banks.
@allengilbert7463
@allengilbert7463 Жыл бұрын
Player of Games is my favorite Culture book. Consider Phlebas was good, but this is the one that actually hooked me. I'm glad you're making videos about it, no one else is and it's been my favorite sci-fi civilization for years now.
@Pantechnicon
@Pantechnicon Жыл бұрын
Great Overview. It took me three tries to get through Consider Phlebas, but I breezed through this one quite quickly because it is so well written, and engaging. I would go so far as to say this is a better introduction to the Culture series as a whole than the first book.
@modolief
@modolief Жыл бұрын
I agree. I thought _Consider Phlebas_ was kind of just ordinary sci-fi, but _Player of Games_ really had something to say. And this one was my first Iain M. Banks novel, which I only discovered about a year ago. I'm surprised this author went right by me for all these years.
@tallaganda83
@tallaganda83 Жыл бұрын
I’m nearly finished Phlebas, it is a bit of a slog in the middle but would make a great tv series.
@LowestofheDead
@LowestofheDead Жыл бұрын
Yeah Consider Phlebas is so different to the other books in the same setting. It's just a sequence of crazy encounters while the later books are great critiques of society and explore morality. It's sad that people read it first because literally every other Culture book is better.
@Sandact6
@Sandact6 Жыл бұрын
It honestly seemed like Consider Phlebas was more of a standard sci-fi story that guest starred the Culture, and that Iain liked the Culture then made it into a book series. I could be way off, but that's my impression of it.
@noluck5721
@noluck5721 24 күн бұрын
I love this book. The way Banks makes you think about Empires and AI and our own society here through discovering Azad together with the Culture main character is truly fantastic. Very well written, I laughed and was horrified and fascinated chapter by chapter. There is also quite a bit of game theory in this book, and as Quinn mentioned, the connection between that and our reality. “A guilty system recognizes no innocents." is my favourite quote from this one; one which will make sense if you read the book and connect some dots to our current society. Loved the review, Quinn! When I need new amazing Sci-Fi to read, I always check your channel first for recommendations, and oh boy, thanks for those because I loved them. You are a fantastic source ♥
@Nathan-ew5hv
@Nathan-ew5hv Жыл бұрын
Best part of finding a new channel like this is now I have years of old content to catch up on.
@Ripcode2233891
@Ripcode2233891 Жыл бұрын
Highly recommended to check out quinn's videos on Dune (in particular, the butlerian jihad). Probably some of the best videos I've watched on KZfaq ever
@seancharriman
@seancharriman Жыл бұрын
Quinn, I absolutely love everything youve done thus far! Now that you’re exploring the Culture universe, I would be over the moon if you did an in-depth review and analysis of Use of Weapons.
@euchiron
@euchiron Жыл бұрын
This and Use of Weapons were my top two Culture reads
@unicyclist97
@unicyclist97 Жыл бұрын
Use of Weapons is the best fiction book I have ever read. Absolutely sublime.
@tristanlawson5371
@tristanlawson5371 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Quinn! One of my favorite aspects of the book was just how Gurgeh strategy to beat the emperor was described. To this day it's still one of the most Cultur-esque things I remember from the series!
@isirlasplace91
@isirlasplace91 Жыл бұрын
I haven't read sci-fi for years then started watching your channel and you have reignited my love of sci-fi!! Thanks so much for your content!!! I always get excited when I see you posted!!
@camerona5778
@camerona5778 Жыл бұрын
I just had meniscus surgery, being stuck in bed for weeks sucks. But I’m so stoked that you dropped a video!! It made my day
@UNATCOHanka
@UNATCOHanka Жыл бұрын
Get well soon 🫂
@robertkeaney9905
@robertkeaney9905 Жыл бұрын
That's the worst, dude. Same thing happened to me back in high school. I hope your recovery goes well.
@zeliardforty-two4692
@zeliardforty-two4692 Жыл бұрын
Definitely will have to find this one. I always loved the metaphor of how life is just a game. Your level of involvement effects the world around you and “a simple role of the dice” can instantly change the outcome. No matter how well you stack your deck, a simple coin toss can make your tower fall Ya I know I’m trying to hard for a simple comment! Just love your content
@scottrackley4457
@scottrackley4457 Жыл бұрын
In the end, the lesson from "The Player of Games", was that Jernau Morat Gurgeh himself was but a piece that Flere-Imsaho was playing.
@nerag7459
@nerag7459 Жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis. It is one of my favorite books. i read it first as a student and then again once I had spent years in a legal career and it hit more powerfully the second time. In some ways law is set up as a game and if you pay attention you can see how unfairly the system operates. We are not so different from the Empire of Azad...
@tuumef1799
@tuumef1799 Жыл бұрын
I love sci-fi like this. Deep exploration of systems and people. I may start this series thanks to you. Thanks for the quality video.
@badensnaxx5804
@badensnaxx5804 7 ай бұрын
I remember a race, in a Sci fi story, that had a society based on chance, sometimes gambling with your life. Every doorway used, calculated the odds of whether it turned into a guillotine & sliced you up, or not. The odds changed on where the doorway led, they dropped if it was a route to a high ranking job, or position, so less survived.
@mybalcony4066
@mybalcony4066 17 күн бұрын
What was the story?
@trevorcourtney7457
@trevorcourtney7457 Жыл бұрын
IMB.....probably the greatest SF novelist ever. Love his stuff.
@arnoldrivas4590
@arnoldrivas4590 Жыл бұрын
What a great video to watch. And just before work too. Thank you
@JohnPatrickCarroll
@JohnPatrickCarroll Жыл бұрын
I'm loving these videos about The Culture Series. I haven't read Player of Games yet, but I've added it to my list of books to read.
@skateboardingjesus4006
@skateboardingjesus4006 Жыл бұрын
This was Banks first full-length Culture novel and a powerful introduction to it. I have to say that Flere Imsaho is probably the most fascinating sentient drone in the whole Culture universe.
@davidwuhrer6704
@davidwuhrer6704 Жыл бұрын
I felt really sorry for all the things Flere-Imsaho had to put up with. But as a character I find Mawhrin-Skel more interesting 😉
@TheAstroWitchLux
@TheAstroWitchLux Жыл бұрын
I guessed Flere Imsaho's secret early on, just because I didn't believe in coincidences and that Contact would listen to Gurgeh's demand so easily.
@anguscampbell3020
@anguscampbell3020 Жыл бұрын
No Consider Phlebas was the first book published, the fist story Banks came up with in the Culture series was Use of Weapons but his first draft was too complicated so he wrote Consider Phlebas and published that instead. Player of Games was the second published book though it is recommended to new readers as a better first entry to the Culture series than Consider Phlebas.
@skateboardingjesus4006
@skateboardingjesus4006 Жыл бұрын
@@anguscampbell3020 Sorry, you're correct, I forgot about Consider Phlebas. The one that reads least like a Culture book, is Inversions and my favourite is Matter. But my favourite Banks novel will always be The Algebraist.
@skateboardingjesus4006
@skateboardingjesus4006 Жыл бұрын
@@davidwuhrer6704 Mawhrin Skel's full motives to have physically attacked and attempt to blackmail a Culture citizen fascinate me. The results give a devilish insight into the Culture's dark underbelly.
@Joerg31415
@Joerg31415 Жыл бұрын
My favorite book of the series... Thanks for your insights!
@crushivintage
@crushivintage Жыл бұрын
Your channel and messages are fantastic. Thank you for being honest.
@fburton8
@fburton8 Жыл бұрын
That, Sir, was the best summing up and recommendation of PoG I have ever heard or read.
@clarkthompson8094
@clarkthompson8094 Жыл бұрын
I love the culture series and this is at the top of my list of culture books. Among my favorite books of all time. The metaphor, the tension, the scenes Banka builds, the game itself. A masterpiece.
@durwoodmaccool890
@durwoodmaccool890 Жыл бұрын
Recently re read this as part of MDC's Culture read along, I'd always liked it, but this time around I was really blown away by it. Just the quality of the writing, the way it hammers it's ideas home and how much fun it is. Almost as good as Use of Weapons.
@Mrszelko
@Mrszelko Жыл бұрын
Im so happy i discovered you friend, your like " Yo wanna listen bout other universes? " Ur my new routine, I listen to u on my way from work to Home, ur videos are best after dark. Thank you for your work.
@unicyclist97
@unicyclist97 Жыл бұрын
The Player of Games remains one of my favourite books of all time. Stunning idea and so concisely delivered.
@jhwheuer
@jhwheuer Жыл бұрын
I liked the idea that language heavily influences thinking.
@davidwuhrer6704
@davidwuhrer6704 Жыл бұрын
It's a concept from linguistics called the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis.
@dreyri2736
@dreyri2736 6 ай бұрын
Gene Wolfe quite interestingly denies the hypothesis in his Book of the New Sun series. It includes an ultra communist culture on earth whose entire language consists of approved slogans from texts referred to as "correct thought" Thing is, intelligent Ascians(name of culture) can still express meanings that exceed those approved sentences.
@Hybridman7
@Hybridman7 Жыл бұрын
Listening to your video reminded me about how often Philip K. Dick tackles this theme in his fiction!... From Solar Lottery (a regime seemingly based on luck to decide who is to rule)... to Our Friends from Frolix 8 (a galactic-empire-sized game where people and regions are the stake)... through The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch (hallucinatory game to escape a painful state of affairs as colonists on Mars), Galactic Pot-Healer (word games in a society devoid of incentives and purpose for many a commoner), A Maze of Death (featuring a sort of pre-Internet search engine in a world simulator),... Thanks so much for bringing this work to mind! Now I must give it a go :)
@Lifesplitters
@Lifesplitters Жыл бұрын
Love your videos! Would adore to hear about more of the Starflier in the Commonwealth series!
@saucedbutleaking6558
@saucedbutleaking6558 Жыл бұрын
This is the first video of your that I've come across (thanks, /r/TheCulture!). I like the way you present the point of the novel and I'd love to see a deeper dive on this book (or others). You get it, and you present the social commentary in an accessible way and it'd be great to see you go below the surface
@JRussellDay
@JRussellDay Жыл бұрын
Also, while you're looking at Iain M. Banks, I would definitely recommend reading his Iain Banks novel "the Wasp Factory" it's not sci fi, but it is sooo good!
@akiyrjana6558
@akiyrjana6558 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Quinn, again . This is my second fave of the Culture series, the top one being the Use of Weapons.
@jgoemat
@jgoemat Жыл бұрын
POG is a little slow and unusual among the culture novels in how it focuses so heavily on one character. Most of the culture novels have several story lines with vastly different perspectives intertwined, but here we are following a single Culture citizen throughout the novel and a single linear story. Most of my favorite parts of the Culture novels are the crowning moments of awesome. Normally these take form as conflicts between ships and minds, but one of my favorites is in POG when Gurgeh has all but given up on winning a game until he learns what his opponent is watching on TV at night.
@thainemartin5766
@thainemartin5766 Жыл бұрын
Had to exit as soon as I figured out what book this was about. Currently listening to it. Great work on the videos!
@android65mar
@android65mar Жыл бұрын
YOU bring the story to life very well, makes me want to revisit this novel.
@lilbear9992
@lilbear9992 Жыл бұрын
Just finished it, great book! Looking forward to reading the rest of the series
@patrickstultz9577
@patrickstultz9577 Жыл бұрын
This is the first book in the Culture Series I read. From there I went out and devoured the rest. Ian Banks was a great writer!
@ThomQuinnHere
@ThomQuinnHere 11 ай бұрын
I believe this is the best entry novel for the culture series. Then read the rest.
@zacharyscottdesign
@zacharyscottdesign Жыл бұрын
I would love to see you cover the Dark Eden series. Excellent world building and the society that springs up from the inbreeding of a single family is explored in fascinating detail
@benjarvis2424
@benjarvis2424 Жыл бұрын
The player of games was the first sci fi book I read when I was like 12, it remains one of my favourite reads and one I go back to time and time again :)
@tombrogden5503
@tombrogden5503 Жыл бұрын
i just finished this reading book last night and started reading Use of Weapons, thank you for introducing me to the Culture series
@cajeeofkitagawa4361
@cajeeofkitagawa4361 Жыл бұрын
loving your culture lore vids, thank you x
@scottabc72
@scottabc72 Жыл бұрын
I very rarely reread books but I think Im going to make an exception for this, this review reminded me of so much I had forgotten
@robertvernon789
@robertvernon789 Жыл бұрын
Please do: Surface Detail and Matter. Matter features a few scenes that really speak to how fast and rough SC moves (it even has a "Trench Run"), when they want to. Surface Detail, is just. Well, crossing my fingers. Oh the Hydrogen Sonata was excellent as well.
@nordicson2835
@nordicson2835 Жыл бұрын
Another book l have to read , you my friend have never made a suggestion did not completely enjoy. I appreciate you , your channel and your thoughts. Thank you.
@gabrielgonzalez1993
@gabrielgonzalez1993 Жыл бұрын
One of the best most capturing books I’ve ever read
@wormbrain1
@wormbrain1 Жыл бұрын
YAS! I love that you are doing more Culture stuff. Player of Games is great.
@timkaine5098
@timkaine5098 Жыл бұрын
I grew up in dc and had friends whose parents worked in think tanks. Big international politics think tanks would make literal board games which allowed them to figure out what the best way to respond to a particular scenario is eg, a terrorist group setting off a dirty bomb. Different players would take the role of different countries and this would act as a sort of simulation to allow the think tanks to develop policy. The games were complex in a way that makes warhammer look like checkers, I could never figure it out. Later in life when I learned about cybernetics in college I had the horrific realization that every single facet of human life is getting gamified and simulated, from our social sphere to our economy to international politics. That’s what this book reminds me of, I will check it out Thank you Quinn
@josullivan5604
@josullivan5604 Жыл бұрын
yay! i have been hoping you would look at this one. Player of Games is a favorite of mine.
@adenfayt5433
@adenfayt5433 Жыл бұрын
I just finished Use of Weapons and it was AWESOME, definitely my favorite Culture so far (I've just read 1, 2, and 3)
@bridgetboyle687
@bridgetboyle687 Жыл бұрын
I’m so excited about a discord channel! What a lovely Holiday gift you have made us all.
@fuffoon
@fuffoon Жыл бұрын
I'm glad I tried it. I'm halfway through the first book and enjoying it. I was intimidated by its length, but it's easy to read and follow. Each chapter poses a mystery to be opened later. Without a good story to keep me company, I would fall back into depression and drug abuse.
@Swanzo
@Swanzo Жыл бұрын
Thanks I been waiting for another Quinn video.
@HavanaSyndrome69
@HavanaSyndrome69 Жыл бұрын
Yesssss. A quinn vid. Just in time for my break
@DarylSuttie
@DarylSuttie Жыл бұрын
This was the first Banks/Culture novel I read. So good.
@jewittm
@jewittm Жыл бұрын
Always here for culture content
@uktenatsila9168
@uktenatsila9168 Жыл бұрын
The only time I get spoiled is when I watch your videos. Thank you Quinn.
@BijuuBerry
@BijuuBerry Жыл бұрын
I recently discovered your channel. I love you.
@bobwhelan5636
@bobwhelan5636 9 ай бұрын
I read this maybe 30 years ago, and it remains my all time favourite book.
@Dennis-ky6ec
@Dennis-ky6ec Жыл бұрын
Thanks Quinn, again a new book that caught my interest ! Maybe next time, you can cover something about the strange and mysterious worlds of Jack Vance. He is one of my favorite SF authors and he has influenced many other writers.
@justinjakob3954
@justinjakob3954 Жыл бұрын
The Dying Earth is one of my favorites, Vance is a great author as well. Some people, I would imagine, who read it might be uncaring for the mixture of science fiction and fantasy. As Quinn seems to focus of science fiction, it might not be his forte.
@meinuser1
@meinuser1 Жыл бұрын
YES! This is my favourite Culture-book
@stephanbachofen9518
@stephanbachofen9518 7 ай бұрын
This was the first culture novel I read, and it got me hooked. I highly recommend it.
@meneerlagerwaard2047
@meneerlagerwaard2047 Жыл бұрын
Interestingly enough, there's a philosopher who argued that language is comparable to a game that we play (a language game). Our capacity to communicate through language is what allows us to reach abstractions, shared ideas, and thus a culture as opposed to a mere community. Which means that our society too is basically a game we play. A game of words.
@XiagraBalls
@XiagraBalls Жыл бұрын
Will watch later as I've got this out of the library to re-read it after reading it decades ago.
@dirtbag5408
@dirtbag5408 Жыл бұрын
Excellent Brother!!!! Thank you. We need a Jenau Morat Gurgeh! Or an event like his win to hopefully wake more of us up.
@Testytimes22
@Testytimes22 3 ай бұрын
I have really enjoyed watching Quinns growth and success. Dude, don't hide your face. lol.
@ericlancaster412
@ericlancaster412 Жыл бұрын
Great book. Great video. I think one of the points of the book is that the mentality the excels at playing games has to view the world in a reductionistic, mechanistic way. This puts you on a potential path towards cruelty and using others as instruments. So the Player of Games is a oddball who doesn't really fit in the culture - the machines come right out and tell him this. He is (unlike everyone else in Culture) always male and only attracted to females, for example. In the Azod he encounters an extreme society of people *like him* and has to confront the worst manifestation of his own type of personality. It's his challenge to be like the Azod enough to win the game, but to still be enough Culture that he feels what is wrong about them and opposes them. There's an interesting bit about how the higher you go in Azod culture the more sadistic you must be. The Minds of the culture had to find one of their own with the right mentality to win.
@GatosdeLaNada
@GatosdeLaNada Жыл бұрын
Love the book, love the video and love how you have ebolved with your content
@johnnylayton1672
@johnnylayton1672 Жыл бұрын
All this time wrestling with life as a stage and now I've got to start all over again thanks a lot scifi
@UncleMuin
@UncleMuin Жыл бұрын
Every book in the culture series tackles a different "unfair" aspect of the human experience. I love these books for the thoughts they spawn.
@RidleyJones
@RidleyJones Жыл бұрын
So interesting! I wonder if this was influenced at all by the Borges story "The Lottery in Babylon"? I really need to check these books out.
@sinecron6684
@sinecron6684 Жыл бұрын
We've missed you Quinn, welcome back... -Sarasti and the Captain
@mikemcmahon3118
@mikemcmahon3118 Жыл бұрын
@Quinn's Ideas can you do enchantress from the stars? the idea of immature/young civalations at different levels coming into contact with a advanced one was interesting and i would like to hear your take on it
@Ricotraficante
@Ricotraficante Жыл бұрын
I been lost without quinns updates
@maddcowperklns8275
@maddcowperklns8275 Жыл бұрын
Love your channel !!! Fairness is an illusion as is Freedom ! ✌️💖☺️
@Yggdrasil42
@Yggdrasil42 Жыл бұрын
Amazing book. Probably my favorite Culture novel.
@wintermute1
@wintermute1 Жыл бұрын
One of my favorites in The Culture series
@alm08e
@alm08e Жыл бұрын
Actually pausing this vid @ 3:10 or so. Gonna give this a read and return!
@jackhurley1428
@jackhurley1428 Жыл бұрын
This book was my gateway to sci fi. I will always have a soft spot for it!
@nonyabiz9340
@nonyabiz9340 Жыл бұрын
Freaking KZfaq finally recommends a Quinn video after he uploaded 4 vids in 8 days.
@robrick9361
@robrick9361 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like Seto Kaiba's dream world.
@RedFenianPunk1916
@RedFenianPunk1916 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree in highly recommending this novel! I read it about 16 years or so ago and loved it. A great plot twist and I loved the political commentary too and how it managed to steer clear of the doomer pessimism which sadly has become all too common in recent years. Definitely a nice change from both kitsch idealism and the bleak pessimism which has reacted against that. A more solid approach, which is much needed in science fiction!
@bazoo513
@bazoo513 7 ай бұрын
This is one of very few _TPoG_ reviews that focus on, I think, obvious way in which it speaks of real world society. At the same time it provides, especially for a Culture novices, a fine introduction to _that_ far more rational society, warts and all.
@tupp001
@tupp001 Жыл бұрын
love this book. Do more Culture GSVs
@monkspthesane
@monkspthesane Жыл бұрын
Great breakdown. Player of Games took me a few tries to get into, but I tore through the back half once it really got going. Side question: What's the artwork at the 2:50 mark? That's a really fantastic image.
@gordiasz
@gordiasz Жыл бұрын
than you Quinn, another book to read on my list
@zmeyagosho
@zmeyagosho Жыл бұрын
Hi there, I just stumbled upon this channel(or rather the youtube algorithm, suggested it) and I enjoy it a lot. One thing I would strongly recommend to any fan of Sci-fi, who wants to read novels off the beaten path is to check out the Strugatsky brothers! My guess, as to why they are so unknown, is that they wrote Sci-Fi in the USSR and "everything from USSR equals bad" in the western world, so they never got any recognition outside Russia. In my opinion they are among the best sci-fi writers of all time, and I have read a lot of sci-fi authors. I mean no disrespect to Herbert, Asimov, Zelazny, Philip Dick, Silverberg, Vonnegut, Stanislav Lem and even Lovecraft and Stephen King. They all have wonderful books and I've read several books from each of these authors, but I swear Strugatsky brothers' works are on par and often better. Check out their "Roadside Picnic", "The Doomed City" or "Space Mowgli"(I hate the en caption translation of this one, the original caption was just "The Kid"), or actually any other novel or short story they wrote. I have read most of their work and I haven't read a bad one yet.
@MrJudeWanamaker
@MrJudeWanamaker Жыл бұрын
One of my favorites so far
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