I couldn't have agreed more. The "love conquers all" stereotype is so overly used that it just feels so fake & halfassed. This is the most realistic and happier outcome of the series. They're not at their happiest yet but they're working on it.

Exactly. A bittersweet ending, scars that will take decades to disappear, or maybe they never will, but they can take the burden together now.

It gives the feeling that even after all of this, there is still hope

I disagree in that they're broken shells of who they used to be. In a lot of ways, if that were true, Peeta would still be trying to murder Katniss thanks to his brainwashing and Katniss would've kicked Buttercup out of the house. She would've never had children. They're different, but in a way, freer since Paylor is President of Panem. Remembering those who died and honouring them, but not letting all that mourning take them away into the afterlife prematurely, either.

Yes, and I also love that it doesn't go too far in the other direction. It's not a completely hopeless, bleak ending. The events of the story had true impact, Katniss and Peeta are realistically traumatized... but they are also healing, and they have each other for support. There is hope for improvement to their mental health, and their children will live in a better, safer world. There is also something very beautiful in the fact that their feelings for each other survived all of this. Not in the "love magically conquers all" way, but in more in a "we have deep scars in our souls, but we value each other enough to put in the effort and share the burden together" kind of way.

But she can't get the blame on the cat. Though it wasn't her fault she should not take the anger on the cat

@@GigiGarcia9369dude. You’ve never snapped at someone/something you weren’t angry at bc you were extremely overwhelmed? I’m not saying it was okay and obviously she was extremely remorseful about it but after everything she’s been through, she finally let it out. Sucks it was like that but it’s understandable. And then she immediately tried to right that. Stop acting like she just decided “oh imma throw this bc fuck that cat lol”. Nah. Cat reminded her of the sister she violently lost and it all flooded out at once

I really felt that deep sense of sadness when she yelled at Buttercup. Gets me choked up every time I think about how broken Katniss must have felt giving herself up to volunteer as tribute for Primrose but for nought…

How did the cat ended up there? She took him to district 13

Pretty much the acme of PTSD. She never really came back from the Liberation War.

My cat took a dump in my bathroom sink.

@@mwillbladeHAHAHAHA

That’s so stupid, cats don’t grieve losses or feel emotions. They’re animals, not humans. They live off instinct. The point is the cat doesn’t have another master so it cuddles up to katniss now because it needs a human to survive since it’s used to relying on one. Y’all people think way too much of animals

@@SlaveofChrist1not true

@@SlaveofChrist1 thats not true, its been scientifically proven to be false.

😩😭😔😭😟😭🙁😭😕😭😢😭😤😭🤬 oh my goodness I can’t to imagine the heartbreak the absolutely destruction of her, losing her sister kind of her daughter, because in the beginning she was taking care of her younger sister being a second mom to her because of their mom went into a depression after her husband her daughters dad died

Yeah it was so bad that after Prim died, her night terrors became worse.

​@@biancamoore413like her mom, she also just completely shut down for months after prim's death and the execution. Her screaming at buttercup was already a sign of recovery.

And all while she’s a teenager

Add on to that the fact that her sister didn't die in the hands of her enemies, but her most trusted friend.

I'm sure the cat was actually CGI, probably filmed on a green screen and pasted over the film of Katniss throwing objects at the window. I doubt they'd endanger an animal like that. Pretty sure there's rules against stuff like that.

The filmed the car seperate and used cgi to connect the two scenes. So Jennifer Lawrence was yelling at nothing technically

@@steveharrington6333I’m so glad because I love cats A LOT and I’m very sensitive about them so the less harm they receive the better. It is logical that the cat was filmed separately to prevent harm but my mind gets the best of me sometimes.

​@@dianamagritte5079i don't care about animals but i agree with you.

BUTTERCUP the BO$$

Peeta and Katniss needed and deserved each other. I’m sure the audience wouldn’t have it any other way.

The ending was heavily critisized at the time, though. People were angry that a warrior like her ended up married with kids as her happy ending.

​@@xenondoro8573yer very silly, she was motherly, normally I don't say that about characters, but she was a mother to her sister. What did they want her to do, end up alone and sad forever. Just cause she's a warrior she can also be with someone.❤

@@xenondoro8573people forget that for Katniss to want to have children it meant that she felt comfortable to bring them into the world. It meant that she had healed part of her trauma.

@@dguzman302Exactly. Not to mention, their children are pretty young in this epilogue, so it definitely took years for Katniss to reach that point in her healing to want children. It really was the most fitting ending for these two.

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wow, I never thought of it that way 😢

wdym nephew?

@@think_ill_miss_you_forever her nephew played/is the kid

@@yeshwantkethineni3694 ohh aww that's so cute

​@@think_ill_miss_you_foreverHer other nephew played the other kid. Now Jennifer is herself a mom..

Years later, I realize that this series was a Jennifer Lawrence vehicle. She was the rising star. But I do wish they would have paid a bit more attention to Josh Hutcherson's (and Peeta Mellark's canon) portrayal because he was phenomenal.

ends the franchise huh

@@Ben-hn4nwit does the new movie is a prequel this is the farthest event you can get

​@theking167 there's still haymitch we need

Not just for that, but to ensure no one else had to compete in the games.

It’s so poignant and probably the most tragic thing about the series - she sets out to just save her sister not the world but ends up saving so many and losing the person whom she wanted to save the most.

Not die.... Killed

​​​​​@@jacobwiles547 Theyre saying she went through all of that just for her sister to die anyways. Wanting the games to end was a part of it, but Katniss' catalyst and primary motivation was always protecting Prim. Shes the sole reason she put herself in the games in the first place, and keeping her safe became the main reason for most of what she what she did and was forced to do. No one's saying she didnt care about the people in the districts at all or that their freedom didnt become facets of her goal, but prior to her death, the center of her motivational drive was always Prim.

@@bluebay1031 I know, but at least Primrose was still given a better chance!

Yeah same here

Peeta? Hey You came home. Yeah. I found these, huh, out by the edge of the forest. It's a primrose. So sorry Katniss. ... You love me. Real or not real. Real. So damn beautiful. ❤

❤ Love the hunger games movies 😊

.... Muito bem, amei a sua narrativa. Excelente, eu fiquei admirada, pois não tinha percebido isso em relação ao Snow, pensando agora, era realmente por isso que ele queria ver eles mortos. O amor entre Katniss e Peeta.

I came reading this comment. Makes realise I should get into reading Ballad.

I love how ever ounce of the new movie explains every law and organization that snow passes. You can se how chaotic it was before his power and how he came to get it in order. Even got more people behind the idea thinking it was a great thing because now they get rewards. Even saying how he doesn’t like singing because he seen it as a weapon(if you read the book.) it’s a great prequel.

I 100% agree. In the book him coming back and doing saying that, is what gets her whole healing process started. Before that, she didn't care about anything, was more or less catatonic, just waiting to die. Only after he came back, did she manage to start hunting again, grooming.. The cat scene also happened afterwards. Why? Because she loved him, of course, but also because he had always represented hope to her (the dandelion). He had also represented security, like you say, and she finally got that back.

he was not! Jennifer has said in interviews that working with the older one was easy because he LOVED Josh and it was piece of cake lol (and honestly who wouldn’t love Josh, he seems so great with kids 😍🥰)

Yes, I love how it really shows how safe she feels now; how much she truly has been able to heal. The nightmares can be managed, Peeta is no longer a danger, and Panem will not rip their children from their arms. For the first time since she lost her father, she has found lasting peace.

that's cause Gale stinks

i like how in the book it says something along the lines of“it took 15? 20 years? for peeta to convince me, but he wanted then so badly”. it shows how gale or anyone else couldn’t possibly convince her, but her love and feeling of security towards peeta is enough for her to change her mind

I was thinking the same thing!!!

i just realized this omg. also in the books she sings the same song she sung to rue as she passed. its so beautiful.

why gale with a star thing lmao (im stupid idk what its called)

@@yulsummers5807i forget the details but i think gale had come up with the idea to bomb the capitol citizens that coin eventually used to kill primrose. So in an indirect way he was responsible for her death

@@abgol8019 ohh ok

@@abgol8019 I recently rewatched catching fire, mockingjay pt 1 and pt 2 and honestly Gale's descent into darkness was so much darker than I remember. Really shows how differently war can affect people and highlighted the key difference between him and Peeta. Both experienced real unspeakable horrors but they were affected by those events in opposite ways. Gale represented violence and anger whereas Peeta represented peace and hope. Even after everything that was done to him he was the first to say no to a symbolic hunger games in the hopes of ending the vicious cycle, but Gale wanted to continue the cycle and meet violence with worse violence. And his dark and frankly sadistic mindset ultimately led to Prim's death.

​@@yulsummers5807 gale had the idea of using twice detonating bombs Coin enacted on that to frame snow for the deaths of the children and prim aswell

76th games?

@@theherohimmel The 76th annual Hunger Games, which would have taken place around that time.

@@jacobwiles547 it never did right?

@@theherohimmel That’s right!

I need to rewatch these movies ASAP!!!

I'd be interested if you could expand on why the major theme of The Hunger Games is authenticity/honesty.

​​@@Winter-Alpha-OmegaIt starts in the first movie with Katniss and Peeta faking their romance to get them through the Games. The scenes of her being on stage are done in such a way to clue in to the audience that it's all fake and done for show. Even Haymitch tells her she has to play up the crowd. In the 2nd movie Katniss agrees with Snow "never to lie to one another". Snow wants her to pretend and convince everyone that she and Peeta are in love. When Katniss and Peeta do the victory tour, she goes off script and things get ugly. In the Arena in the 2nd movie she recognizes that Finnick isn't lying to her and he isn't the "real enemy". Once again authenticity comes up during the Rebellion when Katniss can't do the fake advertisement and instead chooses to go on the front lines for real. It's Katnisses' honesty and integrity that wins people over to her side time and time again. Again it saves her in the last movie when a man holds her at gunpoint. Of course the big moment is after the rebellion wins, and she visits Snow and Snow informs her that Coin bombed her sister. She doesn't believe him, and then Snow reminds her that they agreed never to lie to one another 😏 So this helps her make the ultimate correct choice in killing Coin. The Katniss Peeta romance relationship of "real, not real". Restoring Peetas memories with truth and honesty and being honest about their feelings for one another no longer being a fake show for the cameras but something real when the show and Games are over and they're all alone with one another.

👏👏👏👏

Totally agree. It was really weird because it felt like I was saying bye to two good freinds.

This is the reason why I’ll happily rewatch this series every now and again, just to relive that journey with Peeta and Katniss.

hey hey, please tell me one thing... is the new movie "ballad of songbirds and snakes" really good?! i mean i saw some disappointing reviews and i'm thinking about going to the theatre or wait until it comes to the OTT

@@boardonroad1646a good rule of thumb, never listen to online reviews, go out and watch the movie for yourself and have fun. don't go in with what people are talking about it before but imo it is very good gave me chills

@@boardonroad1646personally I think the movie turned out way better than I expected, seeing the story of snow was amazing. Ofc critics dislike it more and the fans loves it. I think it’s worth seeing in the theater but I think it is enjoyable regardless

Peeta was my fictional infatuation when I was 14 years old. He legitimately helped me go through some pretty dark times.

no bcz me too

A cat always finds her way back home.

my cat once came back to us when we had to move for short amount of time, unfortunately he accidentally escaped from the truck, few days later we were surprised our cat could track us. it's amazing evethough we only moved for few kilometers away, cats are amazing pets

Cats can travel for surprisingly long distances when they want to.

The one time I went on vacation without my dog I left her at my friend's house for a week. On day 5 she broke out of the yard and went on one of her adventures. She was captured 2 streets from my house. I'd never walked to my friend's house with her because it was too far. She was a 20# white dog, so someone stopped and picked her up. She was actually very distinct looking as a lhasa/beagle mix. Her groomer recognized her on FB as the found dog and called me 😂😂😂 I couldn't believe she traveled so far without getting into trouble

Everyone was free. Free to travel wherever they wanted, get married or not. Of courses Katniss' mum visited or even stayed with them. Why wouldn't she??? They were not stuck in their districts anymore. Lol The others' life journey is not shown because they're focusing on Peeta and Katniss and their journey and love story. You have to use your imagination for the rest.

@@Ariana-wv4pf How would I know if Katniss' mum visited her? Katniss never mentions that. By the way the last part of the book is written, it seems Katniss and her mum only had contact through letters.

When combining their names I prefer Peeniss Or KatPiss

"Everlark" is so much better than the altenative name I have seen used 😅

So basically Snow was mad jealous that Katniss and Peeta actually trusted and loved each other 😂

I don’t think that is the parallel. I think the parallel is Katniss and Gale. Lucy and Katniss were both initially besotted with Snow and Gale, but they were two people that were headed in opposite directions. One side wanted normalcy and peace and freedom, while the other side had ambition and anger quiet anger, which is what pulled them apart.

who is everlark again 😭 its been so long since ive last consumed this franchise

I didn’t realize until I rewatched that it parallels the scene from ‘The Hunger Games’ where she and Peeta sit in the same positions, looking out the window of the penthouse. The night before entering the Arena, Peeta was so sure of death, but emphasized that he didn’t want to lose himself and be a pawn of the Capitol. Now, years later, here he sits, having become the one thing he didn’t want to be…but he has survived. The Capitol and Snow could not ultimately succeed because he fought his way back to Katniss. He has come out the other side a true victor. I think this is what Katniss is thinking when she smiles.

Patiently waiting for finnik and haynitchs arcs

why is you being male and 25 related to you crying at this scene lol

Actually she had to chop it all off bc of how damaged it was after the first two movies

@@namelastname8471its sad because a good hairstylist would get the same result without the kind of damage that makes you chop it off. I wonder what kind of process they did in order to cause that in her hair 🥴

@@dianamagritte5079 I believe during catching fire filming and post-production, Jen had all the dye removed from her hair bc she was blonde during the 2012 oscars. I think they did re-shoots after that so she most likely dyed her hair again. Fast forward months later and she was back to blonde. Probably took a toll on her hair 🤔

They are all to blame.

Same. I’ve been wanting this for years now and have been denied the satisfaction 😭😩💔. It’s quite literally the most heartbreaking feeling, that they never created more movies/books with these two characters who were the complete embodiment of true love and who looked out for and cared for each other so much. A pure unconditional love that I wanted to see so much more of and don’t get me wrong, it was good to see Snows backstory with Lucy Gray but I would’ve loved seeing more of Peeta’s and Katniss’ life together, and Haymitch. Effie, Johanna and Annie too. Maybe have Katniss’ mum come home and be around her grandchildren. Buttercup the survivor kittie. The wholesome beauty of the new panem with its kind and caring president. But with the movie mostly focused on Peeta and Katniss and the family they created together 🖤 Just would’ve been the absolute best and I hope a movie just like this with these two characters comes to pass in the future ! One can hope 🖤.