@99spokes Ай бұрын
Forgot to mention in the video; the size large we tested weighed just over 30 lbs (13.kgs) without pedals.
@frog-spit-182 Ай бұрын
Thank you KZfaq algorithm. This is exactly the kind of hardtail I've been searching for.
@99spokes Ай бұрын
Heck yeah, glad you found it!
@dirtwolfmtb Ай бұрын
Cool bike, personally like the surly lowside. Definitely rides like a 27.5” bmx and is $1499 USD. And with rear dropouts can run SS or geared with the hanger.
@99spokes Ай бұрын
Nice! I’ve always thought those look fun! It’s pretty similar to a bike Fairdale already makes, the Taj
@psyde Ай бұрын
@@99spokes rides like a 27.5 meaning they come in 29s?
@joshdesj Ай бұрын
Great video Josh, super informative, as always. Love seeing rad steel hardtails!!
@99spokes Ай бұрын
Thanks Josh, glad you enjoyed it! We just got a TransAM in for review that I’m stoked to throw a leg over!!
@dadventuretv2538 28 күн бұрын
When I bought my first mtb in 1990 I had to keep my Mongoose Californian for jumps and tricks. Fast forward to today- I take all of my full squish mtbs from everything like trails to DH lift assist parks to DJ parks and skateparks. Today’s mtbs are so good. Nice review. WAY too pricey for a hardtail. Frame only though is priced right. Surprised they didn’t at least go mullet even if not full 27.5.
@DicasdaNet Ай бұрын
This bike looks soo awesome! I would ride it on XC trails just to have fun!
@99spokes Ай бұрын
Oh man it absolutely is! Makes boring trails fun again haha!
@LaurentiusTriarius Ай бұрын
I'd have to sell the Honzo but the frame price is pretty darn interesting, anyway the Honzo is wonderful but tbh what I wanted from it was more dirt jumper dna...
@PuffinPass Ай бұрын
Ironically I was just looking at this on their site then the YT algorithm sent you to me. Glad to see you again. Great overview of the bike. I also agree on the pricing situation, as a frame that is a great price but as a complete...not so much.
@99spokes Ай бұрын
Hey, glad you found it! Yes, bummer on complete pricing. I can’t help but wonder if they’re getting a higher rate for OEM parts since they’re surely making smaller orders. But that’s just a thought on my end
@SovranMonk Ай бұрын
if it was a 26" i'd be in love.
@c97dcreations96 Ай бұрын
This seems like the perfect bike for rays imo
@carterschichtel9678 Ай бұрын
Too big of wheels. Other then that looks awesome
@jugaloo5873 Ай бұрын
Surly k-monk mini mullet is the way.
@dogmatika7 Ай бұрын
Nice! I can recommend the Ghost Nirvana 4X as well.
@eskimo4130 Ай бұрын
The geo still looks far to laid back to be bmx influenced imo. This is more of an alternative to the current trends. 26" bikes and builds would be most beneficial to near everyone imo due to how varied and established they are, with prices that have dropped off a cliff, and then you're still not trying to lug around and trick a huge 29" bike. 32x spokes on a 29" supposed trick bike, yeah but no.
@cory7328 Ай бұрын
I love this drops in the middlechild's territory. I 'd love to own both.
@99spokes Ай бұрын
For sure!!
@mikej1348 Ай бұрын
I was looking forward to this review. I wished they made a small wheeled version too. I’m surprised it’s stiff for steel. Do you have any bike or frame weights? Good work on the review and the comparison between the Elevator and your personal bike(which happens to be mine too)
@99spokes Ай бұрын
Oh shoot, totally blew including that in the video! My size large weighed 30 lbs on the dot (13.6 kgs) without pedals. Not bad for a steel hardtail with mid-level spec! I bet you could get this under 28 lbs pretty easily
@99jerseyboy Ай бұрын
They had me... until you said "$3,299" for a hard tail made from 100% chromoly with external cabling and a mediocre fork. HARD PASS on the complete build, but the $500 frame is a much better option for me too.
@99spokes Ай бұрын
Yeah, frame only definitely seems the way to go here if you’re decent with a wrench
@ROSE-by5su Ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with external cabling lmao such a noobie thing thinking Internal will make it much better. Also its chromoly lets make it Internal cabling to blast more water inside to build up rust. Yappin at the price signs you are a newbie this prices are pretty normal there are tons of companies out there putting unreasonable price at your product
@zacknagel827 Ай бұрын
I was about to say, we’re asking full suspension carbon 29er money.
@Jean-jk4zv Ай бұрын
This
@SixGunTodd Ай бұрын
@@ROSE-by5suin my mind a "noob" is someone willing to shoot down domeone else's valid concern with some oversimplified troll esque response. While this bike may appeal to a market willing to pay the afore mentioned price there already exists several other options much deeper into the appropriatly priced range (Marin San Quentin, Kona Honzo, Big Honzo, etc.) I'm not sure if you're aware....but the bike industry is currently experiencing some upheaval that's dramatically effecting prices, might want to have your finger on the pulse of things before you regrettably say something that can't be substantiated.
@5tereo1 Ай бұрын
is this just a hardtail mtb or am i missing something?
@mateusseer5353 Ай бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking.
@99spokes Ай бұрын
Its geometry is unlike anything else on the market right now, pretty cool to see them carve their own path rather than making another Roscoe/Growler/San Quentin/ etc.
@juaneer Ай бұрын
@@99spokes Is it not more like a dirt jumper with larger wheels?
@gregdevins9372 14 күн бұрын
Good Vid! Do you think a rider that is 5 foot ten with size 10 feet is going to have any issues with clipping the derailleuer?
@99spokes 13 күн бұрын
You should be good! I ride left foot forward and wear size 11, and didn’t notice that issue. I think much bigger than mine I could see that happening though
@lamarwilliams185 Ай бұрын
Can you do a video on how geometry of the bike can help people decide if they are looking for a trail, xc, down hill, cross country, down country, commuter, all a-rounder. Then add in the bike talk on what progressive is and aggressive, flowee , choppy, skips, bouncee , responsive and what ever else people may say to describe a bikes performance. I road bikes since I was a kid. 43 years old and it sounds like everybody is speaking a different language. I come from the red line, Diamond back and mongoose error of bmx.
@99spokes Ай бұрын
We did haha! Check it out: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rbx2hNuTlru0iH0.htmlsi=Vwd77AR4aiwITSER
@lamarwilliams185 Ай бұрын
@@99spokes thanks!!!!
@eskimo4130 Ай бұрын
The MTB world is just a giant cash grab dude. There's some good bikes out there, but damn they're expensive. A casual rider will never be that affected by small geometry changes, as long as the frame and wheel size are of a favourable size. Get down to your local good bike shop and ask questions and try some out! Or just pick up some second hand cheap bikes.
@lamarwilliams185 Ай бұрын
@@eskimo4130 I had picked up a second hand bike a year ago. Shwinn alu comp. Maybe because I’m older. Also heavier. LOL I feel as if I’m leaning on the handle bars. I don’t recall this feeling. Even with huffys. Small changes do make a change. I purchased a thudbuster and cloud 9 seat. Now I can ride for two hours. I lost on the investment. The gears make a loud grinding sound in every gear but one. So I stay in one gear all the time. It’s a decent gear for flat ground. No hills!!! LOL
@leocor_cyclery6291 Ай бұрын
you should compare this to the Poseidon Norton. specially the frame only build
@99spokes Ай бұрын
That would be an interesting one!
@Naptime48 Ай бұрын
My £$£$ is waiting for a mini mullet version! 29 is dead :'D
@99spokes Ай бұрын
That’d be rad!!
@NoBrakes23 27 күн бұрын
I hope my Karate Monkey doesn't see me eyeballing the Elevator
@LSD-420 Ай бұрын
Looks nice.
@Blackbone242 Ай бұрын
It's beautiful 😍
@syms85 Ай бұрын
When you riding the new Stanton designed by hard tail party?
@99spokes Ай бұрын
I would love to! The Sedona seems pretty similar to the elevator, at least geometry-wise. It’d be fun to ride them back to back
@syms85 Ай бұрын
@@99spokes have you not managed to swing a leg over the Stanton yet? I thought I saw a clip with you taking to hard tail party about it?
@99spokes Ай бұрын
I own a Switchback, but never ridden the Sedona! I did get to chat with Steve about it at Sea Otter though, sounds like there’s not a ton of frames floating around yet
@psyde Ай бұрын
this is me.
@JogieGlenMait16 Ай бұрын
look at those short chainstays...
@garretteverett2613 Ай бұрын
1:58 Brand new $3300 bike that already leaves scratches on the dropper tube? Oof. I'm not a princess about bikes but if I paid that much I'd be looking at the attention to detail on the rest of it.
@gur262 Ай бұрын
I wonder if that wouldn't just be any dirtjumper? A (very) few even come with gears. Gotta put on a front brake. That's it. Maybe even with a rigid fork on? Or that one swampmaster full suspension bmx.
@99spokes Ай бұрын
Good questions! The geometry on this bike splits the difference between a dirt jumper and a trail bike, so it’ll perform trail rides quite a bit better than a dirt jumper with a derailleur would, and be more nimble/agile than the average trail bike
@flowstateofmind Ай бұрын
If they launch a 650b model I might switch my nukeproof scout for one of these
@truckinforjesus 19 күн бұрын
It seems as though this frame could accomidate 26, and 27.5 wheels and still be a great ride.
@99spokes 19 күн бұрын
BB would be pretty low!
@truckinforjesus 18 күн бұрын
@@99spokes Good point.
@LaurentiusTriarius Ай бұрын
Oof the price. Steep steep. I'd probably be interested as a frameset only I don't like the components I'd go light and strong with boutique components on a frame like that.
@juluisreyes9094 Ай бұрын
No wonder the head tube is straight design..hehe
@riftprime5725 Ай бұрын
But wait is the weight? :O Frame or full build.....
@99spokes Ай бұрын
The size large we tested weighed just over 30 lbs (13.kgs) without pedals
@docmccoy9813 Ай бұрын
Nah, buy an slopestyle bike with 26" wheels instead
@99spokes Ай бұрын
Very different bikes haha, but both a ton of fun!
@jeffreypinkleton8032 27 күн бұрын
Can you put a ridgid fork on this bike?
@99spokes 22 күн бұрын
Yep! Just make sure you get something that's suspension corrected for the correct axle to crown length
@JoshWu Ай бұрын
looks like stanton sedona
@99spokes Ай бұрын
Very similar, at least geometry wise!
@calvinkirchhoff971 Ай бұрын
I think you got a brown bear in the background of some of your videos you gotta be careful!
@99spokes Ай бұрын
Too true lol
@keg2023 Ай бұрын
Just build up a frame on a 140mm fork and it rips
@99spokes Ай бұрын
Nice!!
@andrewsupernova Ай бұрын
Straight head tube? Why?
@99spokes Ай бұрын
A lot of it comes down to looks to be honest! It still takes a standard tapered fork steerer tube, but you get that classic steel look
@andrewsupernova 25 күн бұрын
@@99spokes fair one, just odd since it's getting harder to find straight steerer tube forks these days 🤷🏽♂️
@pedromedina1802 Ай бұрын
Only Medium and Large sizes …😂 I was totally hooked until, that 😢
@99spokes Ай бұрын
Ah, bummer!
@pedromedina1802 Ай бұрын
@@99spokes any plans for small size ? 585mm top tube please, that will be great 😊
@SKIDSnSTUFF Ай бұрын
fark the mountain bike industry trying to take money outta BMX
@99spokes Ай бұрын
Wouldn't this be an example of the BMX industry trying to tap into the MTB industry's money?
@theshamanarchist5441 Ай бұрын
MTB's are for posers.
@augmented2nd666 Ай бұрын
What in the early 2000's external headset? also, 3300$ hardtail? My Devinci Kobain Hardtail seemed expensive at 2200 and has similar geometry to this, similar build although its Deore all around so more durable, and RS 35 silver fork is a bit beefier and more BMX oriented in that mine has almost no adjustments and just plain works, I dont even think it takes air, its spring instead. My bike rides like an enormous BMX too, but not as much as my Specialized P3 but thats an obvious one as thats a Dirt Jump MTB.. Cheers for the review, I didnt know Taj made fairdale and is tackling MTB.
@99spokes Ай бұрын
Haha it’s still an integrated headset, just doesn’t have a tapered headtube; this is actually pretty common for steel/titanium frames
@nathanwilliams3839 Ай бұрын
If it was me and at 600 frame only I think I’d call Rick and Jess from standard and just have them build me a frame
@99spokes Ай бұрын
Sounds like quite the hook up haha!
@nathanwilliams3839 Ай бұрын
@99spokes I've came from a BMX background and growing up in davenport I just have a love for standard byke company lol. Price on that frame only really isn't all that bad considering what you get
@unknownmusicman 29 күн бұрын
I'm not a fan of 29" wheels. They look goofy to me. I know it's just a superficial thing but I'll never buy one.
@kornfieldking8479 29 күн бұрын
I'm right there with ya. 29ers are for XC and Roadies 😂
@smith7043 Ай бұрын
They built a trek roscoe
@99spokes Ай бұрын
Great bike, but a very different bike! Check out the comparison on 99spokes.com! 99spokes.com/compare?bikes=fairdale-elevator-29-hardtail-mtb-2024%2Ctrek-roscoe-9-2023
@NoMoney001 Ай бұрын
Kind of like a child, but not the oldest or youngest one.
@99spokes Ай бұрын
Yes 😂😂 we compare it to that particular child at 8:15
@NoMoney001 Ай бұрын
@@99spokeswoops! Stopped watchin too early..lol. You seem to have some good BMX knowledge. I’m in the market for an intro BMX. I wish 99spoke included BMX info. The comparison function has been VERY helpful.
@99spokes Ай бұрын
I wish we did too 😅 I’ll pass that word on up to the big boys!
@blackeagle5446 Ай бұрын
😂$3000😂😂😂😂😂...fuuuuuuuk that!!!👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻
@alessandrouk2 Ай бұрын
Dont Have a Real BMX Cranks, (Primo, Demolition, Odyssey, Profile Racing etc). Only MTB Cranks “Gourmet”.
@kylesteck8470 21 күн бұрын
Alex rims on a bmx like xc bike. These are things that make you go to hell. What a joke. Why do bike manufacturers put garbage wheels on bikes ?
@precisionedge9259 Ай бұрын
I can get a marin san quintin for way cheaper.
@99spokes Ай бұрын
Great bike, but a very different bike! Check out the comparison on 99spokes.com! 99spokes.com/compare?bikes=fairdale-elevator-29-hardtail-mtb-2024%2Cmarin-san-quentin-29-3-2024
@ZagelMedia Ай бұрын
$3,300 for a hardtail is absolutely insane. You could get a carbon frame YT Jeffsy Core 3 with great fox parts on it for the exact same price ($3,299). It's definitely a frame-only type of bike, seems like they just slapped random parts on it to sell for convenience to rich people who can't put a bike together for themselves. The only way this bike would make sense is if you bought only the frame. Otherwise you're better off buying a dirt jumper for $1,150 and a used dual suspension bike from 2017-2022 for $2,150 and just get two good bikes for the price of 1.
@99spokes Ай бұрын
The Jeffsy is an awesome bike! But I don't think there will be much crossover between folks looking for a bike like the Elevator and the Jeffsy, two tools for two jobs
@SteveTheDiva Ай бұрын
For that price, it had better come with a motor.
@patrickschwarzenecker670 Ай бұрын
too expensive… and why 29“? and you should avoid mud with that mtb…. besides that, i hope they increased build quality..
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