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The main thing to take away from this episode is “who was Charles senior?!”

"It seems plainly obvious to any person with at least three braincells that this was foul play, but since the entire FBI has only two braincells to share, they couldn't figure that out."

The missing camera and apparent coverup makes me think that he managed to take a picture of something he wasn't meant to - or at least someone thought he did.

If I ever go missing I really hope someone like Charles Sr cares enough to do even half of what he did.

I'm amazed the mention of Agartha didn't immediately summon Wendigoon to your location

Thank you for using Bigfoot as a unit of measurement. Really helped me with translating imperial to metric.

Charles Evan McCullar (who you reference as Charles Sr) was born in 1926. He mustered into the US Navy when he was 19 as a Seaman's Apprentice on the USS Denebola. That ship was decommissioned the next year, 1946. By the time he married his wife in 1952, he listed his employment as US Army (his wife's was listed as US Navy). I cannot find a listing for the 1950 US Federal Census. He eventually achieved the Army rank of Master Sergeant. This is the highest military rank for an NCO in the Army and, as such, commands a great deal of respect within the military. This gives us a clue that he was career military. He last lived in Fairfax, VA and died 14 Oct 1998. There may be an obituary in a local newspaper for him which may detail his career, but it is not digitized so you would have to check with the local libraries. This is if you are still interested. This was, by the way, a relatively cursory search of genealogical databases, if you ever need to find info like this again. Interesting case.

Hi, Canadian camper here. A lot of good points here, but one thing I feel needs to be pointed out. If he had a large sheet of building poly or other such plastic tarp with him, in the snow he effectively had a tent. Any tree and a few sticks can turn a tarp into a fine single man tent with ya have a good warm sleeping bag, and it is MUCH easier to get yourself out of if, say, you are camping alone and it starts snowing heavily in the night. I'd much rather be under a simple tarp, able to get out in ANY direction, than trapped in a tent burried in snow. Also, if it isn't actively snowing, ya just embrace your inner 12 year old, make a sick snow fort while your dinner cooks, and bed down with a tarp between you and the snow. Winter camping is magical, if it was snowing a lot it wasn't that cold, I'd happily sleep outside in that sorta weather with a good sleeping bag and a tarp... within walking distance of a warm bed and with a cellphone, because I'm old and smart, but still, its not fundementally extreme camping. Oh, last thing in my one thing reply. If he fell in the water its... overly confident I'd say to just say 'he would have tried to change his clothes'. He would have, unless he was exhausted and lost when he fell in, barely dragged himself out, and fell asleep in a moment of exhausted weakness as they joy of 'oh thank god I'm not going to drown' washed over him... I have personally seen people that fell in cold water off a boat pass out in minutes, with people telling them to stay awake, shaking them... a frozen river, tired and alone? Wilderness survival training doesn't make ya super human.

This is heart breaking. To be buried at Arlington means that man gave his entire life to his country, I know bc my dad is buried there. Yet his country couldn't be bothered to help him find his son. Just awful.

Realistically Charles Senior gave his life, career and even his son for his country and they couldn't even give him the honour or dignity of investigating his sons very obviously seeming death by foul play. He went to his grave not knowing and quite frankly whether that's 50 years ago or 5, they both deserve justice.

despite all the sad things, it’s nice to see how parents can love their child so much

I guarantee you that pathologist report originally said "While the evidence available shows no indication of foul play, given the completeness and state of the remains it cannot be ruled out completely" and the cause of death was originally marked as "undetermined" until he was pressured to mark a cause of death by someone to "give closure to the family." I know several pathologists and according to them this happens shockingly often to this day, they say that nothing is hated more than an "undetermined" cause of death.

I really love the personality, accountability, research, time, and humor in this one man.

Charles Sr. was a certified badass who just wanted justice for his son and if he had to go hike through a national park, or harass congress, he'd do it. Idk what we do know about him is that he loved his son and he was ready to throw tf down in his memory and I respect him. RIP Charles Sr and his son.

My daughter just did an overnight hike in the snow for a college class. They dug out a sleeping area in the snow, used the tarp on the ground to keep moisture out, then slept on a roll up mat and low temperature sleeping bag. I believe this is probably what he would have done too if he deemed it necessary. With that much snow you don’t need to carry a tent for shelter. Great research on this and I really enjoy how you deliver the information. I subscribed immediately and am about to start a binge of your channel!

I'm sorry my mind is absolutely blown by the Klamath people's origin story and how long they have kept that story alive? I've been to Crater Lake a few times and it's stunning.

I come from a military family, and when I was 8 my dad said he'd asked my grandpa once if he was special forces. His response was "Even if I was, you couldn't prove it." He was a Colonel btw.

Police and the feds really hate doing missing person investigations, which is why they try so hard to ignore requests to even start searching. They especially do this when it is a teenager. Telling the family they are just off somewhere being brats is just police code for "go play in traffic, we don't care." It tends to come back to bite them when the bodies are finally found with injuries they can't manage to ignore. Then they have to do a big song and dance number to hunt down the killer, or a reasonably believable scapegoat so that people will shut up about it.

I am a Roseburg native, and it’s wild to hear this man passed through our town before disappearing.

My dad served two tours in Vietnam. Details of records were lost for fifty years, then suddenly were found. Same happened to a lot of service members from that war. I am unsurprised by most government antics, including how many people the government has no record of. It seems to be a specialty.

This channel is insanely underrated. To be this committed to getting the most factual story possible as well as making it funny and enjoyable to watch ALSO while still recognizing the concerns about the darkness of the story is genuinely impressive. I cannot thank Wendigoon enough for doing the Dennis Martin colab so I could find this absolute gem of a channel.

Charles E. McCullar - Master Sergeant, U.S. Army. Born November 25, 1928, Died October 14, 1998. Son was Charles W (Chuck). Military records are interestingly, NON-EXISTING for his service...and to reach the rank of Master Sergeant with no battles or campaigns, tells me he most-likely worked with OSS during (or immediately after) WWII...possibly into Korea. Quite possibly a simple 'grunt' in WWII, and moving over to OSS (or OSI) before or around the Korean War...which of course, was also the timing of Eisenhower, lots of UFO/Alien/Government projects...all of which would have 'black boxed' his career in general. Connections? Yeah, pretty easy to see how they could have formed...at least, for 'dad'.

The FBI is under the jurisdiction of a local sheriff and may investigate cases of missing people ONLY by the sheriff department's invitation. I know an FBI agent, and he has made this very clear. Individuals asking for the FBI will get nowhere. No invitation from the sheriff -- no FBI. Also, it isn't common, but there are some people who have no public records, or they have very few. I'm a former private investigator, and sometimes we were looking for people who were "ghosts." Unusual but not unheard of.

My guess on why the FBI looked into the checks was that they internally had suspicions that there was foul play involved and were looking into the possibility that someone cashed the checks. All while stonewalling Charles Sr. in hopes that he would stop corresponding with them. This leads me to believe either Charles Sr had enough pull to have the case continue to be investigated by another department of the FBI or the FBI was checking with BOA to make sure that whoever did kill Charles Jr didn’t cash the checks. Which would lead me to believe they knew who it was and were covering for them. Whether that was someone in the FBI/GOV or someone connected through a case or who was an informant. This whole case reeks of misconduct and trying to bury it

I love that Lore Lodge actually corrects Paulides’ misinformation…

Like you say, its kind of annoying that "creators" just parrot an article from somewhere and wait for the youtube money to start rolling in. It kind of restores my faith in humanity that there are people still willing to put effort into these investigations and actually generate something to contribute. Putting in actual work is a rare thing to expect from a youtube channel imo. Good show

Considering his father was such a prominent person, it is possible that the son was also recruited into the line of work that the father was in and had an 'accident'. Since we have no clue what the father did, but it's clear he trained his son well enough to know what he was capable of, maybe whoever employed the father also secretly employed the son. That could be why the FBI refused to investigate the death of the son, because they knew how he died. Maybe the bones that were found we NOT the sons, but claimed to be so the father would stop pressuring them to look into his son's death. Sounds to me like this is a giant cover up. The father had a secret life, and was clearly very good at what he does if he could talk people into doing things.

Yes, that could mean his Father was in a high security position, but not because he was buried in Arlington. Spouses and dependants of those who are in the military, or work for the military, are also given that honor. (because if one person in the family serves, the whole family serves) Thank you all who have and who are!

Re: this guy's dad, sometimes people are just people. My dad worked for the NSA and was constantly overseas doing secretive stuff for them but you won't find mention of his name online outside of obituaries. He was also adamant about ensuring I had survival skills growing up and insisted on teaching me martial arts as well as how to build a shelter in survival scenarios, among other things.

you know, I’ve been on KZfaq for over 10 years now, and I think this is the first time I’ve seen a KZfaqr be sponsored by personal injury lawyers, bravo good sir

I wonder if Charles Senior or any other investigator checked any pawn shops to see if Chuck’s camera wound up there considering it was not found with the body. Also, whoever Charles Senior was, it’s clear someone at the FBI had it out for him because it’s hard to believe that a guy with his kind of connections would receive the same kind of callousness that the government often shows civilian parents looking for justice for their kids if it were not the case.

Stab wounds can often be determined on partial or whole skeletal remains. If the knife was driven through soft tissue with enough force and with a long enough blade. It can pass through skin and soft tissue causing damage to the ostei structures in the body. Pretty scary, violent, traumatic, painful stuff.

You should make a map of 411 cases and cave systems, rivers, national parks, and walking trails ect, it would be so interesting to see

This honestly feels like it went from a Missing 411 profile to a The Government is Not Your Friend profile.

Idk what it is, but the little "get them, not in a bad way, get them in a good - in a good - ok" is adorable to me! 😄

😂 the level of vitriol for the FBI is so high, I love it. Charles senior sounds CIA or something along those lines, especially if he's not popping up in public records. It's horrible he never got to learn what truly happened to his boy. No parent should have to bury their child and then be refused help to find out the why's.

The more of these videos I watch the less I trust governmental agencies to do their jobs. I didn't think it was possible for me to trust them less, I'm kind of impressed.

Small heads up for the Lore Lodge - Most of our grandparents files(17:00) got destroyed in a fire in the 70's. I know this because looking for records for my own family members has been an absolute pain in the keister.

By the way, in the 70s & 80s, we would meet other kids at church youth group events, extra curriculars, conferences, etc and would stay in touch by snail mail & occasional long distance phone calls. It wasn't unusual for us active & involved kids to have friends all over the US, and you'd be amazed at how well we stayed in touch, considering it cost money and took much more time & bother.

This is fascinating. This is a prime example of a case where the strangeness of a case has been both over-emphasized and under-emphasized. This one feels less like high-strangeness/missing 411 now and more like government misconduct.

The part that gets to me about the body placement (especially being an experienced hiker) is why were the backpack straps damaged? I may have misheard but if I'm right you mentioned them being completely severed which you glossed over a bit but I think it might be important. The starps aren't supposed to sit on your shoulders with heavier packs, there's a waste band that tightens onto your waste and you carry the weight there which helps with both center of balance and not creating back problems. The shoulder straps pretty much keep the pack from falling off you backwards. But they are made tough enough that you can pull the pack onto your back with them which can be a lot of weight. The last time I hiked my pack weighed 80 to 90lbs depending on how much food I'd already eaten. That's a normal weight for planning on being outside for about a week or two weeks. That does take into account sleeping bag, tent, food, spare clothes and tarps to stay dry as well as odds and ends for cooking and eating. If he's got enough food to want to be out for three days and no tent I'd guess his pack would weight between 50 and 70lbs (I don't remember the exact gear lay out) which is nowhere near enough to snap the straps on weight alone even if he was being stupid for some reason and carrying the weight on his shoulders. I cannot come up with any reason why the straps on a hiking pack would ever snap unless it was beat to absolute shit prior to this trip and an experienced hiker would not take such a bag on that kind of a trip. I don't know what this means but that stuck out to me like a soar thumb

This channel is just pure bliss. I am so glad Wendigoon included you in his first 411 video a couple months ago cuz without that I don't think I would have found one of my favorite channels

I just want to tell you how grateful I am to have found this channel. You do a SUPERB JOB!

I guess one thing to keep in mind, this was the 70’s so no LE rarely took young adults disappearing seriously. This is such a sad ordeal for this family.

I never would have known how hard the father fought to find out what happened to his son. Great video.

Another fun fact about Crater Lake is the Old Man of the Lake. A hemlock tree that floats upright around the lake. They've kept track of it since 1896. I got to go there as a kid with my grandparents. It's totally beautiful and unforgettable. Definitely go if you ever get the chance. We also stopped at the Oregon Vortex along the way there. That's another very weird place. While the standing broom and uphill rolling ball tricks there have been long debunked, you'll still get a very strange feeling while you're in the area.

So enjoy your reviews of Skinwalker Ranch. I always watch it the day after it airs. Your discussions simply gives me more to think about as I watch it. And I thank you MUCHLY!👍👍

I think that Chuck may have accidentally come up on something in the woods he shouldn't have- likely involving local authorities and was killed to keep him quiet, but then the group he encountered discovered who's son he was and panicked and tried to stage a "lost in the woods" scenario far away from whatever operation they got going. Probably a huge ass weed farm or sex trafficking compound are my first thoughts.

Paulides gets the details wrong in these cases so frequently that it seems less an honest mistake and more an obvious pattern. I think he purposely frames his stories in specific ways to make them more drastic or more mysterious. These cases are fascinating without the misinformation. Thanks for keeping to the facts.

I really love how you actually put real research into everything you talk about. So many times content creators treat true crime/ dark history like a campfire story. But you treat it like a real event. You don’t romanticize or glorify what happened. I have never considered myself to be a fan of true crime, because being a fan of crime is just disgusting in my opinion.But I am a fan of mystery, theories, and interesting discussions. And I am a fan of your channel

I walked a path in Yellowstone .From the road it did not seem like very thick woods. After walking approximately 1 1/2 miles the woods became very thick! I felt I was off trail and was thinking of going back the way I came but I stuck it out and came out at the trailhead! My point is even on the easiest trail getting yourself lost is real easy. Stay sharp people!!!

You would be an excellent educator; you already are "teaching" in such an informative, yet still comedic manner. I listen to you for entertainment, but I find myself wanting to take notes.

And this is why you should always carry a personal locator beacon (some have no sub) or at least that Recco tape! These make great grifts. Even if you are one who believes nothing will happen to you, you vary well may come across someone else that needs help.

I've listened to so many different Charles McCullar videos and radio shows, yours is by far the most detailed. However, now I am more curious as to who the hell Charles Sr. is. I'm still curious about Jr, but Sr is an enigma, wth.

Ah, yes, the venerable "Traveler's Checks"...I'm old enough to remember them well. Mom going to the bank to obtain several meant that the annual vacation was indeed as close in reality as it was in the mind. 🤣

Cold cases are hard to solve unless you have the case record and someone talks or something case related has been discovered. Sometimes people just want to disappear.

Wow! An episode that's over an hour long and *isn't* a live stream?? Best day EVER!!

Crater Lake has a history of freaky things happen there.

The amount of research you did blows my mind. Love this channel and I love your work

If I ever go missing and die in the woods I want this channel to cover it. Im pretty sure I haven’t gone missing and died in the woods yet. I don’t typically go out in the woods or die but it could happen.

A federal 3-letter agency being shady as hell and denying everything with suspect speculation. I'm shocked, shocked I say.

Your comments about Charles Sr hold a lot of weight. Myself and my dad do mirror the two Charles in many ways. My dad is a 35 year veteran of the Canadian forces and I am a 12 year veteran. Even when I was quite young, dad did teach me a lot of advanced survival skills for various environments. Things like impromptu snow shelters, weapons, camouflage and concealment. Now, my dads record isn’t classified fully though a lot of it is in terms of specifics. Of course I can’t speak to what exactly Charles Sr was a part of but based on what information we have I would be willing to bet he was a member of the American special forces. Which one specifically I can’t say for sure. However, given his redaction and how he was viewed, I think he may have worked for the CIA or it’s predecessor. CIA operatives are known to be buried in Arglinton if my knowledge is correct. Again this is a lot of speculation on my end but individuals like him and my own dad would be called very well connected and yet much of their records are sealed. It would be fascinating to learn more about him. As always, well done Aidan and other Aidan.

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The interesting statement that pops out to me is when you were quoting that FBI letter and they stated it was an accident. This gets me thinking that maybe Chuck was accidentally hit and killed by a driver or snowmobiler while he was no doubt walking to his destination in poor visibility and they decided to hide the body to make it look like he got lost and died of exposure instead of alert authorities. That's just my theory.

I like to think there’s some FBI agent who knows exactly what went down watching this like “-dammit.”

I can say from personal experience with amateur genealogy; there's often people you'd expect to find info on that you cannot. It depends on what the state laws are where they live. As an example, I have family in Louisiana, where the laws are birth records arent public for 100 years (except for the person and their immediate family) and death records aren't public for 50 years (same caveat). There's a lot of Louisiana newspapers digitized, though, and available to people out-of-state. Criminal and civil court records are not available unless you are working in the system, except for offender registry. Texas is very different different; birth and death records are online. You can pay a couple bucks for a criminal record. Their major newspapers are online. There does seem to be smaller papers that are only available in-state, which is definitely frustrating but it's sort of a trade off. I'll dig around and see if I can find anything about Charles Sr. I'm not sure what Virginia's laws are but I'm always up for a scavenger hunt.

I dont know where i heard it but ive watched many discussions about this case & somewhere it was stated that Chucks Dad was high up in the military! Of course this may have been said as supposition, or... maybe not? I agree with your dissection of this case. My view is, the FBI initially declined to investigate this case But as it progressed & it was disvovered who Charles Snr was it became too late to backtrack & own up to the fact they had made a mistake! Knowing what Charles Snr could do if they owned up & admitted dereliction of duty etc etc Ie involve the media, splashing the stack of evidence on tv programmes, rubbishing the FBI Etc, the longer they refused to become involved the more they wanted it all to go away or they Would get more than egg on their faces! Im surprised they didnt try & bump off Charles Snr! He really was like a tenacious terrier & refused to let go! It damn obvious to anyone, 5 brain cells or not, this case was not only foul play but a total foul up! I think someday the truth will out, it always does & the wrong doers, unfortunately, will all have passed on. One thing puzzles me though! Were the 2 hikers who found the backpack, really checked out? I mean getting the 3rd degree? Im pretty sure they took some items from where they found the remains & other stuff To leave a camera, knives, other good ( & heavy) stuff may have been to much of a temptation! I reckon they thought, the guy is dead so he wont need this stuff They took his 2 tins of chilli!! If they'd do that.. well.. Thank you for the video & comprehensive report, ive just subbed btw. Peace 🇬🇧👧

Just recently found your channel, working my way through all your videos, really enjoying the content and how thorough you are in your research. 10/10

If only the entirety of the FBI could go missing in the woods...

As a fairly experienced hiker I can confirm that a 20 mile hike is an all day afair! Even after having worked up to doing a 20 mile hike for months having gone on 17-20 small to medium and longer hikes my feet where still in blisters by the end of it and we only got to the end just as the sun was going down. Walking any faster than that is basically a gruling military march you'd have to train your life for. (Edit: I was hiking in the summer on a day with perfect weather btw!)

Exquisite story telling and fact checking, and ordering the story by the series presented and coming back to the beginning, letters as it applied. Best telling of this case ever. Keep it up 😊❤

I just recently discovered you and your videos and I'm loving them!! I'm going to go back to your Roanoke vid and make some comments. I live on the Outer Banks and have answers to a couple of your questions, plus I can help with a few of the pronunciations you questioned. One thing I don't remember you bringing up in this (horrific) case today is money. It seems to me the FBI may have had no interest in pursuing this missing person or the foul play angle because it would cost a lot of money for them to do that. Even if Dad was an important or influential man, there was probably some FBI person at a big desk somewhere saying, "No. We are not going to fund any searches for this young guy." And later: "There is too little evidence to justify the expense of pursuing the foul play angle." We know they assess the cost of investigations as part of the decision about what they will and will not investigate.

The National Archives Fire on July 12, 1973, a fire was reported at the NPRC's military personnel records building. The fire burned for 22hrs and millions of service records were destroyed, probably explains why you couldn’t find much info. I know a lot of vets from the 1980’s (after the fire happened) who the National Archives say can’t find their service records! Sad state of affairs. Also most of the older generations were encouraged to be self-reliant and “lived” outdoors more than they do now.

I feel like your channel will grow absolutely rapidly. I've binge watched all of your videos

I stopped having any faith in the Oregon state police about 25 years ago. I, in my misbegotten youth, took off for a weekend of shenanigans with some of my friends. My parents of course reported me missing to the NH state police who then sent my info out over the wire in case I turned up out of state somewhere (which to be fair was a good possibility at the time as I was a crazy 16 year old punk rock kid that would just wander off on a whim). I came home, severely hung over with twigs and leaves in my hair from a weekend of drunken idiocy in the woods, 3 days later. My mom let the police know that I was home and safe. We thought that was the end of the story. Two weeks after the fact the phone rang and I answered. It was the Oregon state police. They were calling to inform us that they were pretty sure they had found my body. It matched my description right down to scars etc. I replied with "Huh, well isn't that something. Thanks for letting me know." and I hung up (I was a little shocked, a little shook and a whole lot of confused). That was that. No other calls, no other notifications, nothing. And it always bothered me that they would make a call like that and never follow up or contact the local PD to have them come make sure everything was okay. When I told my mom she was just as shaken and tried to get someone on the Oregon state police to talk to her but no one would because, and I quote, "We're sorry Ma'am. But we cannot verify your identity over the phone so we cannot release any more information unless you present proper identification in person." I really hope that they were able to actually find out who the body was and were able to find their family.

Crater Lake has two seasons, August & Winter! Unbelievable beautiful place!

I like how the lore lodge is sponsored by the real world equivalent of saul goodman

Chuck Sr. seems like he has a very particular set of skills.

Very impressed with this well-researched episode.

See, I feel like it’s a coverup, but the question remains: what did Chuck see?

My grandfather had a similar non-background... And, whatever happened to Chuck, I'm not sure he was just wandering the country/taking pictures to build a portfolio., so what was he really taking pictures of, and for whom would be my question?

The amount of effort, time and work u put into finding one random person that disappeared decades ago is amazing. There's a special place in heaven for u. I hope I never disappear but if I do I hope u take on my case, lol.

My wild guess is that the kidnappers had some affiliation with the truck driver that "dropped him off many miles from his destination". Truck drivers (especially ones that end up working in remote areas) tend to have a rap sheet, and this puts them into the basket of resources of the same group that repeatedly didn't do their public-facing job, and has national jurisdiction. The truckers were likely told to drop him off at point "X", and their task would be complete. This location was surveilled, and a second vehicle was sent to pick him up (as he was hitchhiking) for the final tasks, including putting him at the distant location via snowmobile. The various missing items, including the pack frame, were all items that could have been used to MacGyver his way out of the area without going on a scavenger hunt once he recovered from whatever substances he was inflicted with in preparation for interrogation. He was wearing a weird assortment of clothes because he was trying to get warm with many of his preferred items missing, and under the influence of the intoxicants. The fella that brushed off the case with the excuse of "there's a bunch of hippies up there" is likely involved in the planning or was informed of the intended scene of the dumping. The "hippies" excuse was because he didn't know how much evidence was found, whether there was enough left to do a toxicology exam, and so he defaulted to the planned excuse for in case Chuck was found much earlier, due to the snowmobile tracks being followed by a park ranger, who would naturally be expected to follow the tracks for various reasons. The exposure excuse was because they knew they robbed him of all his critical survival gear, but for a couple pairs of jeans and his sleeping bag. He was not in his sleeping bag, because he put on the extra clothes to build a snow shelter. The shelter was likely near a tree, so he could harvest bows of evergreen, needles, both green and dried sticks, sap, etc., and do this while under the snow roof. He is likely down near the stream because that's where he would want to go to survive, instead of the wind-blown ridge. The stream would be in a "Draw" terrain feature, which would likely get good sun for part of the day, and let the cold air drain, but otherwise have protection from the wind. The stream will flow downhill, and will eventually lead to civilization, even if it's empty park cabins. The empty food cans were both because he wanted to get calories immediately to keep warm and get energy, but also so he could have two cans for melting/drinking/cooking with snow-melt water. Something interrupted his activities though... Either the effects of some inflicted "hippy" substances, or maybe animal intervention. He probably didn't get hypothermic in the conventional sense, because it snowed. Snow doesn't fall when it's exceptionally cold, and the clouds that bring snow shield the earth from the sky, to reflect heat that would otherwise escape to space when the sun is down.

I live outside Roseburg and never heard of this! Crazy to hear about something so close to home...

Love your in depth, and consideration to detail and beautiful commentary

Crater lake is whack, I helped re build some trail about 13 or so miles in the back country there. Got a weird feeling the whole two weeks I was there

Your videos are very good. Thanks for all your research.

Maybe its because I'm from Texas, but it surprises me in all of these hiker disappearances that none of them carry a gun. I've been an avid backpacker for most of my 60+ years. I always carried a pistol, as did just about everyone I knew. And this was way before ccw's existed. Today, with constitutional carry and ccw's, as well as the fact that I'm a retired LEO, I always carry a gun, but back when it was illegal to do so, we did, for animals as well as the strange people one tends to encounter when taking the road less traveled. This may well have changed the story quite a bit.

I'd proffer the Occam's Razor of your ultimate theory: someone out driving or snowmobiling around the park accidentally ran over Charles, Jr and then drove the body deeper into the park to stage it like a lost hiker died of the elements or a fall or whatever, then drove off into the proverbial sunset. It would ultimately explain the sheer randomness and unexplainibility of the circumstances, and it was just a cosmic coincidence that it happened to someone with a connected enough family to get where we are with the case today. You can probably also factor in a bit of weaponized incompetence on the part of townie cops to tourist problems with the initial (lack of) investigation, especially if it involved a local around the Diamond Lake travel lodge that they seemed determined to ignore into oblivion. Just some initial thoughts, never having seen the Ballin video or really having any prior knowledge of the case before this.

The Morgan & Morgan stories are getting interesting.

That is the most thorough version I have heard of this tragedy

You crack me up! How did he at 19 know people in other places in the 70's? I was 19 in the 1979. I was born in and lived in Boise Idaho. I never lived anywhere else but had friends in Alaska, Massachusetts, Ohio, Indiana, CA. WA, State as well as other states. We met friends at school, through our parents and family or at college (which many did not attend) and even through newspaper ads (our version of Dating apps- only if we couldn't meet someone in person- which most the population did). We had stationary telephones, took vacations and wrote letters to keep in touch in the way back.

New to your channel love it thanks guys

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hat's off to Charles, he was relentless in trying to figure out the death of his son. RIP 🙏 father and son.

I absolutely LOVE your program! Thanks for entertaining me every evening as I relax ...:)

That's the kind of research I like, no other site gets anywhere near it. He couldn't have possibly got there under his own steam, can't believe he'd have wanted to either. So it can't be an accident. Really weird case, thank you!

Just want to chime in and say that his level of experience of outdoor survival is everything that the boyscouts would and could teach. All boyscout troops are different. All depends on the knowledge and teachings of the scout masters. Boyscouts today have a bad rep of being dorky and lame but back in the 70s and even some troops today teach kids a great amount about wilderness survival. When i was in the boyscouts in the 2000s, during winter we would dig and sleep in snow huts when it was negative conditions, go on several mile hikes with full gear, and practiced land navigation on a regular basis. We were taught first aid from one of the assistant scout masters who was a combat medic in vietnam, and did all sorts of wilderness activities whenever we could. Bottom line is if you have a knowledgeable scout master and you engage yourself with the program, you can learn a good amount in the span of about 6 years, and come out on the other side as a very competent 19 yr old.

Just saw your channel! Like the way you tell the story. I started living in Eugene in 1974 when I was 18 years old, and visited Crater Lake in 1975.