Agree that dealers suck, but they are already selling them as fast as they can make them.

I loath dealers so much. I would rather buy one slightly used from the private party than purchase from a dealer.

I went to the dealer and they wanted an extra 10,000 dollars.

This is exactly what I’m afraid of. Instead of what you see is what you get pricing like Tesla, the dealer is a complete wild card in terms of what the final price of the Mach E will be. I’ve been going back and forth with Mach E vs Model Y for some time now and dealer being the middle man is a big negative for me.

@@DarrellC. i was kinda in the same boat but with the model 3 and Y ultimately, for the same money i could have gotten a long range Y i got a performance 3. i love it. and i have a personal level 2 charger for my apartment and we have a “residential use” level 3 charger. 300 miles a day is more than enough. id even sacrifice like 50 more miles of my range for a mid 2 second 0-60

Yeah let’s hope. Because basically 100 kWh battery is big. And to go 260 miles per charge. Is not efficient. Pound per pound vs Porsche tycan and Tesla. Lucid in a league of their own now with their battery Efficiency

Ford has already said they would. They're looking to do a 5 to 10 % battery increase every year. With this news it's good news because it looks like that will apply to older models as well.

@@bobmatrix1 I think they want to prolong battery life more than any other brand

They’ll need a solid state battery for that

and I am still waiting for an update......

What version was your update?

@@thingswithed I couldn’t even tell you. We got the car in May. I have asked for updates I have received none. And I have reached out to Ford several times in person, by email, and by Twitter believe it or not. The reason we bought the mustang was that way we would have a dealership behind us, where we could take the car if we needed. Unlike Tesla. But as it turns out, that was a mistake

How do we get updates? My Mach-e just always says updates current?

@@thewavygamers2011 You have the Bluecruise software running on your Mach-E?

that is smart because a lot of people like myself ordered a 2021 in the summer and will be taking delivery in the next months. if they didnt backport these updates to the 2021 they would be flooded with order cancelations. I would have canceled my 2021 order and just bought a 2022 when it comes off the truck.

and the increased range on 22 models, is that also coming to 21 owners?

In another form in the Edge.

Exactly ..... The price range is wide on the 3 levels offered ....

i think it’s ugly. i liked the 2021

The black grill is only for the GT

Like dirt?

Maybe in the 90’s

Do young people still form bands? Seems they are too busy crying, bullying and committing crimes IDK

"Grand Frunk Ajar Railroad"

@@777jones seems like youre more preoccupied doing those things than young people are...

@@777jones Oh, right, because older people were all saints. Until the pandemic, crime rates had been falling for years.

I've had two Model S's without the heat pump and now a RAV4 Prime with a heat pump. I can tell you a heat pump should not be a deal breaker. Yes it has obvious benefits but it's Ford we're talking about.

@@InternetDude comparing a Model S to a Prime in terms of range loss without a heat pump isn’t really apples to apples.

@@garrettw99 it is in EV mode

@@InternetDude but the battery is much larger in full Evs than plug in hybrids. The same percentage increase would be much more noticeable

@@InternetDude No it isn’t. Tesla and Toyota tech are very different. Tesla reinvented the heat pump and came up with the Superbottle in the a Model 3. Then they further improved it and debuted the Octovalve in the Model Y. It makes a huge difference.

Pretty much the current details about Mach E's adaptive cruise sans Bluecruise can be found here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eJeaiKpoprjGdIE.html Ford vid

Not to make excuses they could arguably be doing a better job at pushing updates yes, but it is common practice to roll out software updates overtime rather then all at once to reduce load and therefore server requirements, as well as limit the scope of any possible issues that occur. With cars it can be expected for more of a delay between updates for relatively few changes just to thoroughly test for issues, not wanting to break something given the nature of the hardware. But what took them this long? idk but they are rolling out those updates now you just weren't randomly picked as first in line. You *should* get it soon seeing as they are going out to people now.

@@KeeperOfTheSevenKeys. yeah, I hear you but with missing features like basic functionality either missing (frunk opening) or not working (paak) there really is no excuse. I took advantage of this crazy market and flipped my Mach E into a MY. Hopefully for current owners, Ford gets things moving a bit faster in the future.

@@peterfriedman3745 yeah like I said not making excuses but some of this is normal tech practice, but they should have gotten a better hold on these things in their software department by now. Also trading a mach e for a model Y is... odd to say the least, what made you pick that over options like an ID.4 or waiting for an EV6?

@@KeeperOfTheSevenKeys. I probably oversimplified. I had a Grand Cherokee High Altitude that was leased. I was about a year in. I leased it right after the pandemic hit so i got a crazy good deal. A year later, when the used car market was exploding I was able to trade it in against a demo Mach E premium. The dealer had used the 7500 tax credit because they registered it so I was able to get another really good deal, which was crazy considering how hard the Mach E is to get. At the same time I was looking at the Mach E I ordered the model Y. It took a couple of weeks to get the Mach E as it had to have 2000 miles on it for the dealership to be able to sell it. After I had the Mach E for about a month I got the notice that my Model Y was ready. So I sold the Mach E to Vroom, made 9K on it and used that as a down payment for the MY. I had no interest in the ID 4. It was really either the Mach E or the MY.

@@peterfriedman3745 Okay that situation makes sense, just comparing the cars the trade didn't make sense lol.

It could have been pre-made. I work at The Truck Plant For Super Duty's, and we usually don't go into production until July or so but we begin testing the next model year as early as November in groups of 3-5 trucks per time.

@@aaroncrawford2473 Okay, but it wasn't. Ford has said that the GTs at this event were 2021s.

@@monroe177 wow is that really true? so all these reviews of the 2022 edition isnt actually 2022's?

@Jean Toronto Raptors I wouldn't call any of that actual changes (except removing the divider in the frunk). This is the same thing that Tesla does and I hope that all auto manufacturers adopt updating existing vehicles. And no, I do no actually expect any major changes given that the vehicle is so new and has so much demand right now.

Good color

Congrats, the ice white looks awessome. I kind of wanted to cancel my 2021 premium (red) order when I saw that! However I ordered in the summer and am getting my car in a couple of weeks so dont want to reset the clock and be waiting months more.

Correct. Frankly, the Intelligent Cruise Control might be better than Bluecruise in a lot of ways. You can use ICC on any road that's well marked, only having to keep a finger on the wheel. ICC apparently has a higher tolerance for asking the driver to take over as well.

The bluecruise system is better but honestly it being a subscription is kinda a point in favor of buying an ID.4. Mach e uses a torque sensor which isn't a big deal but the VW system has a touch sensor in the steering wheel so definitely lower effort than giving it a jolt even now and then. Been Strongly considering both vehicles but have mostly been leaning towards the Mach e.

The 2020 Subaru Outback also supports portrait, but I’m not sure if it can switch between landscape and portrait like this one can

For heat, it really doesn't need it but if you do think it needs a shade, there's aftermarket.

@@metal_horses568 I agree. In fact, here in sunny Central FL, I often get in my friends MachE 4EX and never realize it has a glass roof.

Nope. But the GT can be spec’d with a full metal roof.

@@DiscoveryOwners The option of a cover would be nice at the price point.

It's really good looking. My neighbor just got one and it looks just as nice as my 5.0

@@sunnyvalentino You need glasses badly

It’s only on the GT as far as I know

You cannot see those lights in person. The lights are only visible to cameras, similar to lights on a TV remote.

That's the smartest answer I have read.

$600 for a three-year subscription (unofficial rumor).

What "less than flattering" article are you referencing? Only one I saw was for finalist in SUV of the Year?

What is the no shade problem when people in the likes of California are saying it is not a problem?

I drive my Mach E in South Texas. You don't need the roof shade. There's no heat that comes through the glass. It's crazy TBH.

Many dealers are charging over MSRP for any vehicles in their inventory, if you search around KZfaq, there's a crowd source list of dealers who will not charge more but they may not have vehicles in stock. It really depends on where you are in the world/country. When I ordered mine, it told me that the dealer I chose will not charge more than MSRP but the dealer I test drove a Mach E at told me that pre ordering will have no mark up but in stock vehicles will have a $5000 mark up.

He talks about it in the video

I actually like the steering It’s the trampoline rear suspension that drives me nuts

They're infrared, so visible to cameras, but not to humans.

Doubtful with the current shortages they opted for new/updated chips. Definitely an update as most are still running 1.6 and not 1.7.1.

@@charlesgrove6905 Good point.

Me

The exterior designer of this car is Moray Callum. Most of the modern jaguar designs were designed by his brother Ian Callum. They both worked for Ford in the 90s/00s which is when jaguars current design language came about in the mid 2000s.

Which battery do you have? What is the range like now?

We have the extended range 98 kWh battery with 88 useable but we think it is now 91 but still need to confirm after receiving update. Range now is lowered due to -10 to -20c temperatures. So once we get back to normal temperatures in spring summer we will see. The main change I appreciate is the faster DC charging after 80% which we only use on long trips about 4 times per year. Our range last summer was 470 to 520km depending on road, driving speed and weather conditions.

The smart chargers allow scheduling by hour and day, which the car already does. You can also measure electricity usage and shut off usage of the charger if you have it outside in an area where someone else may use it, without having to lock the connector. My utility offered a $500 dollar rebate for certain smart chargers. The caveat is they are allowed to control the charger, and shut it down during times of high use to relieve the grid. This is in WA state, not CA. They have not enacted the policy yet, but it will be here in 2022 they say. I can disconnect the unit from WiFi and it works the same, so I bet that would be a way to bypass the lockout in an emergency. I also have the Siemens versa charge as well. It was half the price (when it was available), and works the same if you don't need the wifi capability.

Most of the "smarts" are part of the car's software; you tell it when the cheap rates are and what the maximum charge current should be and then the car handles the power draw. I think the charge station (EVSE) should be dumb by design and just contain a few safety cutoffs.

@@plkracer Thank you. I am considering the Charge Flex home point model. Even over the one being sold by the Ford dealer. I am just getting into reading about these chargers. It will be installed, in my garage. Thanks for your reply. Glen

Why not just a 110V or if you drive 50+ miles/day get a 230V outlet. You planning on driving so much you need to charge faster than 0-100% in 4 hours?

@@gregb7353 Greg, none of the chargers I am considering will charge the car that fast. I just prefer a wall mounted unit in my garage. Looking for the best bang for my buck. Thanks for commenting.

That’s my feeling on all these new tablet screens. Even the smaller ones in their other cars look like afterthoughts. I’m waiting for a kid to grab the top of one and break it because they think it’s a toy tablet. LOL.

Yeah was thinking about getting a mach e and now the subscription thing is a letdown.

I get that but ultimately it’s going to cost Ford a lot of money to maintain and expand BlueCruise. Chevy is doing it with their Super Cruise as well. Monkey see monkey do I guess. I do also have a Niro EV and your spot-on, The lane centering etc … is fantastic without subscription, Ford will do something very similar … the BlueCruise is truly autonomous driving so to me it would still be worth the subscription for the extra performance.

They're not actually visible when driving, only to the camera.

@@reidhester thanks!

It’s a game changing screw up!!!

Have no idea what any of the above means but can't be a big problem as not mentioned in any of the reviews i have watched, ignorance is bliss :)

Thats why we wait for the future of electric mustangs to come😊

@@talkandplay A lot of reviewers, though, are shills... unfortunately :/

Someone was drunbk

I think why no one has is because there are no charging issues at home. That is as long as you can charge. 95% of people can charge with a 110V outlet but a 230v is cheap and gives you peace of mind. I drove 100 miles/day and used a 110V for over a month. Only had to hit the public charger once. Most people drive 40 miles/day.

Hello! I been thinking of get the base model Mach e. I drive around 54 miles round trip to work. Would I be ok charging at home at 110 volts?

Surely thats 3,7 Miles/kWh?

It never charges to 100%, just 100% of usable space. Also, it’s not actually good to always charge it that far. The ideal charge is 20%-80%.

Nice!!

@@afcgeo882 yeah I only charged it to 100 one time to see what the range estimate was or how close to 305 it may be. I set it to only charge to 90 while at home. And yes 3.7miles per kWh my bad lol

@@903lew yes my typo!

Less frequent poops and less toilet paper.🤔

So you don't pay monthly for your phone? Blue Cruise takes a lot of work to keep it updated and the only viable model for that is subscription.

@@gregb7353 Bad analogy. I'm using cloud service and cellular towers each time I make a phone call. I'm not using any of that when I start my car. Also, another "viable model" for those updates (which typically occur over MY WiFi) would be the initial price of the vehicle. Many technologies provide free updates for their products. No doubt it's included in the price of the tech, but at least it's not a recurring fee. But this is just my opinion, I still like the car and would consider it at some point in time.

@@nix4644 Data Centers and developers cost money just like cell towers. If there is a recurring cost to the company it's better to pay for it with a recurring fee. Something static like a wheel is better to pay up front. If you pay recurring it forces them to improve the service or you can drop it.

@@gregb7353 Agree to disagree, but appreciate the back and forth. Have a good day.

I've owned two Teslas and even I can't stand the full on T-fanboy channels. Out of Spec Motoring would be up your alley too, likes any EV.

Good point. It will be some time before having an EV without a garage in which to charge it will be convenient. Or at least a private driveway. I notice that some Japanese designed gasoline powered vehicles have the fuel filler on the right side, which is the driver's side in Japan. Maybe their EV's will follow that practice.

I'm confused by what you are trying to say here?

They have already sold 50,000 2021 models. All the remaining to be built until mid November are spoken for. At the end of November there is the model year switch over to 2022.

@@appleiphone69 People with remaining 2021 orders have been emailed that their orders were converted to 2022s already. so the first batch of those are already spoken for too.

@@KeeperOfTheSevenKeys. yes you are correct. I ordered a 2022 when ordering was opened up. Now just waiting

@@KeeperOfTheSevenKeys. Unfortunately that is not the case with mine, as I ordered September 8th, and it is estimated for November 12th for 2021 Model Year. As mentioned, 2022 shouldn't have really any updates that won't be OTA.

He already mention that it was low in the video

Ford has been a major GLOBAL automaker for decades.

@@alliejr Lol yeah I'm well aware. I live in Australia so we use DD/MM/YYYY but every time I use that format with Americans it confuses them to no end, hence why I'm surprised they didn't localise the format.

​@@avonperera2187 I have a hunch that a big portion of their development team for SYNC 4 & 4a is based out of Ford India, as that would explain their hiring push for software engineers currently. I work with a team of consultants and thats a pretty standard temporal format for them. Along with the rest of the world.

I think it’s just a joke. My wife set the horn in our MY to do the D.J. air horn thing. Very stupid, but also kinda funny. I think Ford, similar to Tesla, is just not taking themselves too seriously.

Air speed would be handy, if they could measure it, to let you know how the wind might be impacting your range. I’m kind of surprised no one has implemented that yet.

That's because Mustangs interior was inspired by P-51 Mustang. Hence the Ground Speed. 2015 Mustangs have the same thing.

Calm the fxck down, maybe! Germany seems to think fake is cool too! Fake interior air vents, fake exterior exhaust cutouts, even fake leathers. I will never understand why Americans are always so damn quick to shxt-talk the American products as if Detroit’s finest are the only ones guilty of being auto manufacturers. They all have lied to us at some point one way or another, believe me!