RE fish packing. I worked in inventory control in a fish packing plant in 1992. The words export and import are a little confusing. But the way it worked was, fish were purchased from the fisherman. Then they were processed at our facility, A certain amount of the fish is unusable, tail, fins, de-boning in certain cases. So the whole cod coming into the facility would weigh more than the fillets that leave. The difference between these 2 numbers is called the yield. I hope that helps.

Row row row your bath gently down the stream, pull the plug and watch your bath become a submarine

The Skeleton at the Bottom of the Ocean is more Die Hard humour you'll notice that theres a Gold Lighter in the Tub with the body which is what Bruce Willis has in his hand when he says "Come out to the coast, well get together have a few laughs". It may also be a reference to the packing plants pre war issues. There was a problem with the air conditioning inside the plant (Bruce Willis is crawling through the ducts when he says it) it could also be a play on the fact that on the day the bombs fell the workers where trapped inside the Building and may have used the air ducts to try and escape

When I first saw the dissected raider bodies and the fishpacking plant, I thought it was mirelurks attracted to the fishy smell, and equipped my anti-mirelurk gear. Got destroyed by the synths and their energy weapons.

The sniper at 2:00 was using shotgun shells for there sniper wow that's probobly why there dead

"a raider is on the conveyor bell, decapitated" Me: *has PTSD of What Remains of Edith Finch*

Biological things rot because of micro-organisms, if radiation killed them, fish would stay "fresh" for as long as there is nothing to decompose them. Same thing happened in Red Forest in Chernobyl, leaves fall from the trees, but there is nothing to decompose them. Its a stretch, but its possible Thing that doesn't make sense tough is the fact that dead fish somehow mutated

Ox, the simplest explanation can many times be the correct one. The fish packing plant is importing (as in bringing it into the company's facilities) the fresh fish, and then exporting the now processed and packaged fish. The discrepancies in the exported amounts compared to the imported amounts can be attributed to a number of factors: -Some of the purchased fresh fish won't pass quality checks and gets discarded -There will be a noticeable loss of weight from fresh to processed fish (as the fish is cleaned, and then either fresh packed such as fillets or canned, or ground and breaded) -Some vendors will not order as much on certain months, leaving a bit of surplus that wasn't sold (exported). So, nothing unusual really going on, just typical fresh goods (same happens in produce or other meat processing) business.

Hey, Ox: Did you notice that ALL of the Raiders looked exactly the same. Female, Short grey/silver hair. Not one was male. Odd?

If the cars are fusion powered, then why do they need gasoline? I've never understood that part.

Die Hard on a Fallout TV! Nicely done sir.

The steamer trunk with weapons could be the evidence

Maybe the reason why they exported less fish then they imported is because the consumers don't want to deal with the fish bones, heads, scales and, organs. So the packing facility was also cutting off and removing the heads, organs, scales and, bones of the fish, reducing the weight of the fish they exported.

There are lots of countries now that essential do what this fishpacking plant do. For example Norway, of all the places - exports their fish to Asia where it is processed and then returned to them. Ecnomic globalization made this feasible and more profitable to do it this way - even though it seems very strange to send it across the world. And of course you are going to export less than you imported - a certain percentage of the fish that you get is not going to meet your standards. Obviously sick/diseased, too small, malformed, etc., are going to get discarded.

I never worked at a plant, but living in a fishing community I can say that fishing in general is often a seasonal job. So maybe the plants collect a surplus of fish through these busy seasons and store them while they sell them year round? That would be my guess.

when i first went into mahkra fishpacking plant i thought mirelurks killed the raiders because of the mirelurk queen but those synths proved me wrong

Maybe the skeleton with a teddy bear was in reference to the limo driver from DieHard who was partying with the bear while everybody was being murdered?

14:56 Those aren't gen 3 synths , Oxhorn are you okay?

I love how you do your lore videos. It was hilarious when you were attacked outta nowhere. Keep up the hard work we all appreciate you, ox.

So if you go to Four Leaf fishpacking plant, Apparently it was an operational plant still during 2287. So Bethesda simply reuse the art assets of the conveyor belt from that location when they created the Mahkra Fishpacking. In fact it seems Four Leaf was used by the ghouls that are now feral inside the plant, So possibly they were turned into ghouls by continuously eating the irradiated fish. On a side note, Mahkra Fishpacking seems to operate like most Coastal plants as in they contract out local fishermen to catch a certain quote of fish, It seems Four Leaf was issuing better contracts out to the fishermen before the great war since before the Great War, the plant was operating on a deficit and was threatened with bankruptcy, partly due to mismanagement and partly because the waste water runoff from the nearby General Atomics factory , Which is why they needed to find more fishermen. The reason you're seeing such high import volume and lower export volumes in their reports at Mahkra Fishpacking, is from packaging process and also I believe there was espionage, An example of that being the cooling system and ventilation system failures or being tampered with. You also should keep in thought that theft or the use of the black market was increasing because of inflation and stockpiling of goods was a big dilemma/Concern of the citizens/military.

Oxhorn you are killing it with these lore videos. Keep em coming man

6:43 judging by name alone, they get fish, they pack the fish into packages that you'd buy at a grocery store, then they export the fish, presumably to a grocery store or to a distributor

The general purpose of a fish packing plant is to remove all the bits of a fish that no one wants to eat like the head tail and guts. They then pack them into boxes or plastic bags then freeze or refrigerate them. The plant will then ship out the packed fish to various distributors. In order to make a profit they sell the packed fish at a higher price often double that, what they bought the fish from the fishing boats.

Bethesda fucked up. 2:02. that's shotgun shells... for a sniper rifle

you know the fish probably doesnt come cleaned so the 15k lbs of lost cod could be heads and other un edible pieces 8:09

can u do the atom cats soon

The only thing I could theorize in so far as the institutes presence was that they might be there after all the aluminum. If we can find that much just strewn about the floor, I imagine there would be a lot more hidden away in storage and that would probably be a useful material for the tech heavy institute.

aye, you import raw fish fresh from fishing boats, process it, and then ship final product line canned fish, or flayed fish on out to wherever.

Why are all the dead bodies the same person

How do you manage to film ,edit other flilm stuff etc this every day? Or do you have a small team? It's amazing, you must be exhausted. only recently subbed to this channel but followed you in your old wow machinima days

your videos are getting better and better! Loved the "synth moment" and the nearby mini quest. Looking forward to my first Patreon month in February and the next live twitch session... stay dapper my friend!

My theory on the note is as such: Some guys got drunk, used a bathtub as a boat, and failed miserably, later this poor guy woke up sober, realized that he was screwed and sent the note...

Oh, the fact that everyone is locked in/out is part of the Die Hard (Hard to Kill) theme of the packing plant.

Hey Ox importing fish in this sense refers to buying it from individual Fishing Vessels and exporting is just selling it to distributers its not normal import/export they use the import term because they product could be coming from international waters not a specific country hope this helps also you would buy what the boats bring in if there isn't a market for that particular fish they get stuck with the excess which is usually resold back to the fisherman to use as bait

Speaking as one who has sold international shipping at DHL, importing is simply shipping goods from a foreign country into your country and exporting is shipping from your location to a foreign country. This is the most basic definition of import/export. Shipping within one's one country is simply that, shipping. However, this does not seem to be BGS' idea of import/export. So, we as players are naturally confused. Honestly, IDK what they were thinking. Thanks for all the awesome content Oxhorn. :) Keep up the great work! I fully agree with krikkit's explanation for the weight differences. The waste accounts perfectly for the lost weight.

You know, it would be neat to see this world back before the war, and to just explore and interact with the people from all the different walks of life. I would love to see how everyday culture functioned down this amazing timeline. I've always been fascinated by what makes people in different societies tick.

Oxhorn If it the institute needed freezing containers for the DNA wouldn't they go to vault 111? Edit: Oh, vault 111 was all ready opened, leaving harmful radiation and other harmful things inside. But it would be safer and "cleaner" (less exposed to radiation) than this fishy situation.

81 trays in all

They are buying tonnage (average per day, not per month) of fish from fishing boats and they they are exporting the processed fish. When the fishing boats bring in a haul, it has to be sorted by type, cleaned (gutted), and then packed in ice to be shipped to markets. The fishing boat acts like a private business, the packing industry sorts, cleans, packages, and ships out the fish. This is identical to what the cannery down the cost would do, except that instead of packing in ice for fresh fish shipments, the cannery takes the fish and cleans, cooks, and cans it. This is why canned fish is cheaper than fresh - they are not as tied to the variance in supply and demand, since they are not shipping a fresh product they can take the cheap excess from the packers that the market doesn't need.

The word you're looking for was "preservative". It does stand to reason that the advanced civilization before the war would possess some very powerful food preservative technology, seeding as how so much of their food is still potable after 200 years. I mean, even the insta-diners are just now starting to succumb to mold. It would only make sense that they have some space-age food preservation techniques.

DNA can be stored on a hard drive because it is just information. Muscle and flesh contains DNA but that doesn't mean it is DNA .

You mention that the imports and exports don't match up - but you don't take into account that some of the imported fish might be rotten, diseased or otherwise be unusable. That mixed with general waste that's produced when packaging the fish could account for the losses.

Hey Oxhorn I know I’m commenting on an old video but all the raiders look exactly the same. Mine were all a dude with a Mohawk. I’ve seen others play this too, like you. It’s a different character, but all the raiders look the same. Also there is a railroad Cache sign on the red truck next to the plant. The synths are there to (probably) ambush the next group of Railroad members to come along. There is an on cache inside the truck. And none of the raiders have synth components, which makes me think of clones. Love your vids dude!

It's quite possible the fish haven't rotted due to preservatives. Remember that in the Fallout universe, foods are pumped full of preservatives to last longer to attempt to stop food shortages. It's a possibility that the fish had been preserved, but not packed before the bombs had dropped.

Mahkra backwards is Arkham and this is a fishpacking factory....u thinkin what im think? Its the penguin 😏 lol

oxhorn great vid man u are keeping Fallout alive

Maybe the steamer trunk was what he put the murder weapons in

I swear you are so explicative in your videos that works as postcasts too

Thanks for satisfying my my needs for fallout lore every day!

Oxhorn, you can use power armor underwater and recover it if you have the first rank of the Aquaboy/Aquagirl perk.

Fish caught in a different state/region will sell better outside of it's homestead. A Californian salmon will be wanted more outside of it's own state. It gives a illusion of rarity. You can up the prices because "What are you going to do? Go to a different state and get it there"

Ox is auditing the books and they're looking a little cooked.

I can remember wasn't there a note or a terminal entry saying that the Raiders got the plant up and running again?

Oxhorn- I regularly use power armor in water, since I'm on Survival and have my main settlemnt on Spectacle Island. It is very possible to get out of the ocean with the power armor.

I just played through this building for the first time less than an hour ago. Good timing Oxhorn! Love your channel.

maybe they filet the fishes and then package them and get rid of them removing the head and Bones what also decreased weight.

14:20 or mabe they are there for the aluminum for making tools

I love your vids oxhorn. Can't wait for the next one!

Some things I noticed: 1: that table with the dead scientist and a few other dead people has a pitcher, some glasses, and some rat poison. I think they killed themselves out of desperation because they realized they weren't going to be rescued. You see the same thing with one of the people in the Cambridge Polymer Lab. 2: I believe the explanation for why the Institute was there is much more simple than your idea: they wanted aluminum and knew that a fishpacking plant would be a good source for it. If you grab the "junk" items in the Institute, such as spanners, cauterizers, recorders and tweezers, you'll notice that much of it has aluminum as a component. So, I believe that the answer is simply that the Institute has great need of aluminum so they sent a synth team to a facility that they believed possessed a good quantity of it.

It's possible that the raiders were processing fish before they were all killed just like how another group of raiders were mining for metals that they sold to another raider group to be smelted. I forgot what they were called.

Pretty sure Boston Bluefish is under 'imported' because it's being brought INto their facility.. I might have not understood it properly but its what I made of it..

The imports refer to what comes in so this could just mean that they IMPORT from local fishermen and then export the same fish

Dude, if you go the Mahkra Fish Packing plant. You better bring you better bring your best armor and guns, that fight was NO JOKE. It was probably worse then blowing up The Institute. And just getting out of there is no picnic.

Triangle Shirtwaist factory, Fallout edition

You are so awesome! Thank you for making my life a bit better, comrade :)

Can you do the origin of Nuka World?

So weird. I just stumbled onto this location a few days ago for the first time ever, never having heard about it before. Thinking it might be an important place and that I'm just an idiot that can't find a door or hatch that will open some sort of quest, boom, you make a video about it confirming it's a useless spot. Thanks bro

I would think the guy in the bathtub in the ocean was the result of a hangover, it would also explain the note

I'm kinda of curious about the children of atom, and how come they are not heavily affected by radiation.

it could be that they only export what other companies buy.

Seeing as it's measuring by weight, it could be that they gut and dehead the fish. That would explain the discrepancy between incoming and outgoing fish.

Okay I have to say this lol I fall asleep almost every night with your playlists on and I was literally on the verge of sleep when I heard the fish packing debate and I literally sat up just to think through the import/export process while you were going through it because it was so bizarre to me XD anyway I love your videos and this just really made me laugh.

Umm... Am i the only one who uses Coastal Cottage as a player's home and enjoys the view of Mahkra Fishpacking?

14:56 did you mean Gen2* synths?

Hey Oxhorn, after watching this video, I decided to check out the hideout under the bridge. Your theory about the group dying from radiation might be only part of it. When I was there I noted a pitcher, drinking glasses, a bottle of vodka and rat poison. Looks more like a suicide pact type of thing. As an aside, I enjoy all of your videos and you're the main reason I've begun using mods. I've played through, explored every inch of the map once or twice. Built and rebuilt some settlements and have now started using mods for my playing. It does make the game more enjoyable to have a couple immersion mods. Having certain settlement mods makes it much easier to build in some areas as well.

I cleared the site before the railroad mission there and everyone but the leader respawn and make it impossible to clear the site for the mission! There is also a room to east outside the plate that I believe has a dead raider with that same key on his person for that loot room. At lest in my play through there was. Great work as always Ox! Keep these awesome videos coming!

Not every part of a fish is edible?

Also can u do a murk water construction site build

Well, technically the word import just means to bring in from another place, so technically when you go grocery shopping you ARE importing those things to your home. The word itself just never gets used for such small things. Also isnt a bathtub just a boat with water inside it?

the bottle thing was probably a joke by game developers also the skeletons in the little hide out killed themselves because if u look on the table there is rat poison the group's r maybe from after that

the left fish is very fishy.

10:50 ya because I love 8 fusion codes for luch what of it

When I found the plant and went to the hideout, I assumed that the skeletons around the table was a suicide pact. There is rat poison on the table that they drank.

I must say um thankful that you do this oxhorn as when I discover locations and clear them i tend to go in look for loot kill anything that moves and leave the lore means alot to me but i just don't have time to read everything these videos are amazing because i can rediscover locations and the lore behind them

man people sure like call of duty

Could you do Salem/the guy that lives there, it's very unknown

Did the fact that all of the raider corpses looked exactly the same go unnoticed for two years

It's nice to revisit this place. All I remember from it is that I was running around screaming profanities at the top of my lungs because I went there at a very, very low level. Lots of deaths and cowering behind things letting dogmeat distract them while I took pot shots.

Love you oxhorn!

13:33-14:21 Or maybe the Institute just wanted some fish because synth fish. Or for the fish oil. Or maybe the Institute just wants to have some fish to eat.

2:34, here we see a mother building about to bring new life into the world

Always looking forward to your daily video Oxhorn. I don't know how you do it but it's pretty damn impressive that you put out quality and quantity

Clever bit of spice having the Die Hard clip on an in game TV

I think those were Gen 2 synths as they're the Nick-like ones that seem more like mannequins than people (and Gen 1s are the skeleton frame ones I think)

It's called fish flipping. Buy low sell high. Great long term investing option

I think I have a (decent) explanation for some of the mysteries at the plant. The raiders found this place and somehow got it working. This is why there are still rotting fish. They hadn't gotten it working for very long, though, otherwise they'd be settlers by now. When the Institute saw this, they decided it needed to be shut down, to prevent the Commonwealth becoming more organized. It's not the strongest case, but I think it makes some sense.

I think that the message in a bottle at this location got mixed up with the 'Not Going Well' bottle found near the HMS Northern Star. The trunk and corpse it leads you to in the pipe underwater is much more appropriate for the 'Die Hard' reference.

17:23 another hypothesis is that the fish cannery was in the nuclear blasts's proximity to be hit by an EMP burst, effectively shutting the electric powered lift

I believe that the fish were being genetically altered that's why after 200 years there is still fish around stinking up the facility. Also that factor of the export of type of fish is greater than what was imported. The Institute uses the technology for altering the appearance and physical traits of a Synthetic being.