Forgot to mention in the video, but I think it would be awesome if the enclave had an outpost in Alaska
@enclave44624 жыл бұрын
Yea but they might have :
@Mestari1Gaming3 жыл бұрын
I agree with that.
@definitelyaperson63343 жыл бұрын
Or the Rockies a base in a nearly inaccessible place from foot and in a different country would be perfect it would have had to be secret of course and with the largish number of vertibirds that managed to escape raven rock and the number of outposts you said it could easily become a major power again plus the gunners in fallout 4 do seem a little to organised and to well equipped to be operating on their own and it says in one of the terminals (I think) that they have a employer outside the commonwealth sounds pretty damn enclavey to me?
@TheFlyingFish6923 жыл бұрын
Even if they survived all these years, inbreeding will be their downfall
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
@@TheFlyingFish692 That wouldn't be a problem, because after the oil rig was destroyed they started recruiting outsiders.
@jakebooth6583 жыл бұрын
The Enclaves base in Fallout 76 just proves that they could have hidden bunkers and bases all over the entire wasteland. There’s no way they’re entirely gone.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
"Who needs proof when you can just retcon" - Bethesda probably
@definitelyaperson63343 жыл бұрын
And the two enclave research stations in fo3
@brianstabile165 Жыл бұрын
War is never truly over -Sabaton In the shadows a rebellion is brewing because for some the war never ended,it will never truly end -Sabaton Who knows maybe there is a small enclave unit in the NCR waiting to start another war
@Popityman Жыл бұрын
@@brianstabile165 probably a large lot of forces kind of dumb to confine the whole prewar government to 2 bunkers, 1 oil rig and an airforce base
@probsnoodlee5630Ай бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative I mean there’s no way you have like what 3 million troops and not preserve a very big number of that as much as all the bunkers will take.
@CommissarCasper3 жыл бұрын
I really really need them to be in the next game with a whole quest Line
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
If my next video is correct there's a way they can be in 76 and the next game.
@teoborges39493 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative we don't count on that shit!
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
@@teoborges3949 Is that some sort of personal attack?
@lgcrazygamer68163 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative He's talking about 76 not your video.
@jaredlittlejohn68832 жыл бұрын
I really need them in the next game as well I've always wanted more enclave lore
@DouglasMacD3 жыл бұрын
The enclave need to be a playable faction in the next fallout
@Thagomizer3 жыл бұрын
That's like wanting to play as a Nazi in the next Wolfenstein game.
@DouglasMacD3 жыл бұрын
I have to disagree on that
@gamerito1003 жыл бұрын
@@Thagomizer I mean, it would be cool too. But the Enclave has nothing to do with nazis, they aren't german nacionalists, and they seem more conservative
@Thagomizer3 жыл бұрын
@@gamerito100 I think you're missing the point. The Enclave are totally Nazis in the sense that their ideology cannot be redeemed. That was the entire point of Fallout 2. Or didn't you play that game?
@Thagomizer3 жыл бұрын
@@DouglasMacD You're correct. The Enclave are WORSE than Nazis. They want to commit global genocide. They embody everything that was wrong with the pre-war world. There's no argument you could make to redeem this faction that would sound any better than defending the Third Reich. Of course, if you only know of the Enclave from Fallout 3 onward, then you might be confused, since FO3 was horribly and inconsistently written.
@ian70643 жыл бұрын
It would stupid on Bethesda's part if they just ignored the Enclave in a future game. Given the resources at the Enclave's disposal before the war, they probably built vaults and bunkers all over the country. I wouldn't be surprised if they even had another oil rig in the Gulf coast.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
It's seems impossible for Bethesda to not take advantage of 76's time period and location to add the Enclave.
@factualhat30183 ай бұрын
Yeah well bethesda apparently just hates the enclave's guts to a ridiculous extent for some reason
@joeymurphy99743 жыл бұрын
So if the enclave rally in Florida at the space facility then they can go through with their plan of colonizing another planet
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
That plan was never canon, and good luck finding a rocket that works after 200 years without service, let alone one that was ready for launch pre-war.
@definitelyaperson63343 жыл бұрын
Or repurpose the missles to act as warheads and kill the brotherhood of steel ncr and so on?
@dradonie3 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative I mean those ghouls in New Vegas kinda found one, we just dont know if it actualy went to another planet
@isaiahsteele37673 жыл бұрын
@@dradonie it didn't they came back remember they had one barrel of fuel
@cryptosporidium13753 жыл бұрын
As a Floridian, I love my Enclave.
@jcrossan13513 жыл бұрын
I’d love to have the ability to join the enclave in a new fallout game with reasons on why to join them even making them the lesser of two evils
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
When you think about Colonel Autumn is probably morally superior to Arthur Maxson.
@spacemarinechaplain93673 жыл бұрын
I mean I’d probably join them (ingame obviously) even if they were still cartoonishly evil simply because it’d be something I’ve been waiting for since fallout 3. But yeah I’d definitely like it more if they actually fleshed the Enclave out more and had a good faction companion to round it all out.
@TheFlyingFish6923 жыл бұрын
@@spacemarinechaplain9367 they’re bad. Join them and embrace the evil or don’t lol. Don’t be shy about it, you like them because of some prideful thing even knowing they’re evil. Yet you know this and try to make excuses in your head lol
@killinspecialist19653 жыл бұрын
@@TheFlyingFish692 thing is they dont have to be bad just look at autumns planned enclave
@memekip5553 жыл бұрын
@@TheFlyingFish692 similar vibe to "the enclave are trump supporters"
@jacob4143 жыл бұрын
We DID survive, we defeated the Frontier devs after they humiliated us.
@mr.k4183 жыл бұрын
I can't believe those degenerates thought they could get away with insulting the best faction.
@slayride1362 ай бұрын
@@mr.k418 fr
@the_gaming_rabbit80173 жыл бұрын
Remember this; in Fallout, Mexico and Canada are annexed and are apart of the U.S. Almost the entire North American continent Is a part of the U.S, that's a lot of territory and ground to cover. To say that the * entire * Enclave was destroyed is a bit of a far stretch
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
Canada was annexed, Mexico was merely under severe influence by America. The Enclave would definitely have set up bases at remote places to avoid getting nuked still.
@darthsion80812 жыл бұрын
Well I think only Canada was actually annexed and Mexico was forced to let America do what they want on their land. Then Mexico basically just fell into a huge political mess. I could see the enclave hiding in Canada but I doubt they would be. I would say they are probably hiding in bunkers or something like that
@rnw8gaming3222 ай бұрын
Also, it’s said that the enclave retreated to bases around the globe, not just in America
@WrathKing473 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Enclave remnants will run into Institute remnants in the future of Fallout. From a Technological standpoint, they would be nearly unstoppable if they joined forces.
@vladimirvojtaml3 жыл бұрын
I'd love that option they're pretty close in terms of goals and institute could help Enclave get more power through infiltration of NCR. Both would profit as Enclave has more raw power and access to tech that institute surely wants.
@blueanonymousguy224 Жыл бұрын
wouldn't work they would most definitly kill each other
@enclave44624 жыл бұрын
This is Enclave Maincom.
@TheOmegaInitiative4 жыл бұрын
Why isn't your video feed working?
@enclave44624 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative No! Why isn't YOURS!
@enclave44624 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative Also i wanna give a suggestion. Maybe Enclave is in Space now because there is a big gap between their retreat from West Coats to East Coast and Veribirds take like 6-8 hours probably to get to the other side. So i think that Enclave is in space and somewhere in a secret bunker/vault because if Enclave paid Vault-Tec for experiments maybe they would build some of Goverment vaults.
@enclave44624 жыл бұрын
Like their is Secret Service Vault with gold in Fallout 76 so why would they store gold if they would die because of their small numbers so that's what im thinking there has to be some other Enclave vault or bunkers somewhere.
@TheOmegaInitiative4 жыл бұрын
@@enclave4462 I might eventually do a video about them in space, however I know that's already been done, and in the official fallout 3 game guide (not sure if it's canon) it says the earliest sightings of the Enclave at raven rock were 35 years before the games takes place. Also my next planned video is about a bunker that the enclave could be in, and how they could return.
@BioSyndrome4 жыл бұрын
We will likely see them after the brotherhood arrive in 76. Im guessing we will get a quest line from modus who recalls them to whitesprings.
@TheOmegaInitiative4 жыл бұрын
I don't think that modus has the power to call anyone from the Enclave, as the terminal recordings speculate, they're being ignored. But modus is trying to recruit new members as we learn from the soldiers in the foundation questline. Although I guess the quest could be about re-establishing a link to other Enclave bases, as I believe it's suggested that Eckhart cut the connections himself. My next video does relate to this, but you've given me an idea for a another video that would go into more depth about this, because I want to take another look at raven rock, so thanks.
@BioSyndrome4 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative ya I need to go back to the terminal in whitesprings and read everything again i wont lie its been like years since I read the stuff.. i ran through the enclave stuff week 1 in 76. I just remember the other bases being mentioned in there
@enclave44624 жыл бұрын
@@BioSyndrome I joined the Enclave at like level 17 since Enclave is my favourite faction.
@definitelyaperson63343 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative and their outside comms were cut by Jefferson
@darth_chaos46163 жыл бұрын
Don’t know why they would, if they encounter the brotherhood that would be lore breaking
@darth_chaos46163 жыл бұрын
It’s pretty cool how according to a map on the oil rig in fallout 2, the enclave also has outposts in other continents like Europe.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
Chris Avellone was asked about that, this was what he said; 'The dots on the map wall were either Enclave bases, "sites of interest" for the Enclave, special monitoring stations, or just flashing red dots placed there for ambiance. I'm betting on the latter.'
@IgiSzy4 ай бұрын
Also on Poland have point
@yourfriendlyneighborhoodsc14473 жыл бұрын
ok so in fallout 2, the enclave were the definitive bad guys, and the bis were the definitive good guys in fallout 3, the enclave started to become more neutral, eden was still evil, but the enclave as a whole was a bit more grey in fallout 4 we see the bos starting to tip into the evil side I think it would be really cool, if we saw a full role reversal in fallout 5, with the enclave playing the role of the heroes, and the bos playing the role of the villans
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
Not scientifically profitable.
@yourfriendlyneighborhoodsc14473 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative oof btw, I saw your vid on the theory that the bos could become the enclave in fallout 76, and with how steel dawn is progressing, I legit could see that happening, like one of the two sides (either the paladin or knight) breaks off from the bos entirely, with there supporters. and modus recruits them cause he could see the benefits if having trained soldiers in the enclave
@GanjaMasterBlaster3 жыл бұрын
That could be pretty interesting
@ryshed43653 жыл бұрын
I'd love an enclave redemption ark in a future game. All the remnants come together to right the wrongs and help the wasteland whilst battling preconceived notions from the past. To see the enclave evolve and use their knowledge to right the wrongs would be amazing.
@definitelyaperson63343 жыл бұрын
That may happen in a future fallout game or perhaps a dlc for 76 except it wouldn’t be the remnants it would be the REAL enclave on the oil rig not the remnants hiding in bunkers Though that was a good tatic
@TheFlyingFish6923 жыл бұрын
Lol it won’t change the fact that the whole organization was/is hell bent on genocide.
@residentialdumbass74093 жыл бұрын
Wrongs?
@sammycool40493 жыл бұрын
This is literally exactly what I think would happen if Colonel autumn survived and linked up with enclave survivors. Autumn was a good person, at least compared to Eden, so I think that if he was given the reigns, he would lead the enclave down a far more humanitarian path. I would love to see this reformed enclave go toe to toe with the brotherhood of steel, maybe over something that would totally highlight the change in attitude in the enclave, like over the life of a prewar ghoul.
@alexmag3422 жыл бұрын
Redemption? For what
@enclavecommando46534 жыл бұрын
I desperately want to join the Enclave in game, like legitimately, not through mods.
@TheOmegaInitiative4 жыл бұрын
Well, for the moment the best we've got is fallout 76's main story
@enclave44624 жыл бұрын
The most you can do is to not destroy Raven Rock ,Infect the water with FEV and make Colonel Autumn to leave so at least you don't kill him.
@enclave44624 жыл бұрын
Actually Raven Rock gets destroyed either way i think because when i came back to it later it was destroyed.
@TheOmegaInitiative4 жыл бұрын
@@enclave4462 If you consider infecting the water with FEV, then you have to decide whether you support the old Enclave or the new one. The humans in the Enclave all follow Autumn when he disobeys Eden, and Autumn never wanted the FEV to be put in the water. So by not infecting the water you're actually helping the wasteland, which at the end of the day, Autumn would prefer.
@enclave44624 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative I guess Autumn is correct since Eden is a Computer, but why didn't Autumn give choice to help them with the purifier since he just kills you in raven rock if you give him the code.
@ethan_drey43223 жыл бұрын
I would like to have a Fallout based in the midwest
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
I assume Obsidian's next game would be further east than Vegas.
@darth_chaos46163 жыл бұрын
There’s fallout tactics
@dradonie3 жыл бұрын
@@darth_chaos4616 most of it not canon
@gaetanbonnemayre84202 жыл бұрын
@@dradonie but it's still a cool game
@HeyBigChriss3 жыл бұрын
The Enclave has always been my favorite faction! I have been mad that I could never join them!
@aimp2273 жыл бұрын
Agreed the Enclave is the best
@Dripbaru3 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah
@ltfinan43953 жыл бұрын
I see a lot of comments and replies how the enclave is evil. But when you look at the concept of good and evil it is entirely based upon what side you are on.
@fatnerdvevo93283 жыл бұрын
My take on the enclave coming back is either taking power in the east or Midwest like Chicago or (my personal favorite way) is that enclave personal slowly infiltrate the ncr military and even it’s council since it’s there’s no clear cut way to identify an enclave personnel (unless I’m wrong please correct me).
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
I think the resurgence of the Enclave will most likely be centered around mount weather and the whitesprings (hopefully). That doesn't stop the Enclave from being in Chicago though, like the Brotherhood base being in California and there being a smaller one in D.C. As for the Enclave infiltrating the NCR, there's nothing exactly preventing that, and I can see that working on a small scale like the legion having spies in the NCR.
@Bazzable2 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative what about fort hood herein Texas its the largest military base y'know?
@spiffygonzales58993 жыл бұрын
The Enclave were RIGHT in FO2 and 3. In FO2 without survivor they would have been the ONLY faction who could beat the Master. In FO3 they were the only ones AGAIN capable of beating the Mutants. We know the Brotherhood lost because of "Remember the Citadel" in FO4. This is irregardless of the fact that using the virus how they intended would have killed off all mutants and removed all radiation. Meaning humanity, while it would lose a lot of people, would be safe from pretty much everything that makes the fallout universe so bad. They would actually be able to rebuild rather than just survive.
@mikaylamahood20463 жыл бұрын
Yeah you do have a point, they would 'wipe the slate clean' as they have said many times - as absolutely immoral as it is, it is realistically the only way to properly rebuild humanity, but then again - does humanity really deserve a second chance to mess up again??
@spiffygonzales58993 жыл бұрын
@@mikaylamahood2046 EXACTLY!!! :D I've always wanted them to bring back the Enclave and actually showcase that they were actually a moral dilemma and not just an evil faction. Even me as someone who (obviously) supports the enclave, it took me years of playing FO3 to even reach that conclusion because of how badly both the story telling for the enclave is as well as the morality system.
@liamlinson75633 жыл бұрын
what happened to citadel, i dont think it was ever implied that the brotherhood lost in fallout 4
@mikaylamahood20463 жыл бұрын
@Nihulistic99th Or even in the old NCR: is it human to have human heritage? (eg Ghouls, Supermutants or other mutated citizens of the NCR)? And yea I'd say genetics and/or design, eg robots, synths, etc
@Thagomizer3 жыл бұрын
That's no different from saying the Nazis were right in WWII, because they were the only army that could hold Russia at bay. The Enclave aren't redeemable. That was the entire point of Fallout 2.
@loganzentgraf37083 жыл бұрын
I do not see them as the bad guy because colonel autumn isn't that bad. He just wants to use the purifier to enforce the social contract
@hermantorres-saucedo27473 жыл бұрын
I mean America is a big place they could be hiding in Texas or Florida, which in our timeline are home to multiple military bases. Plus, there’s the Pantex Plant, where we assembly our nuclear weapons.
@GoldenFishingHorde2 жыл бұрын
If Colonel Autumn returned in the next Fallout game after 76, as the leader of the Enclave faction, that would be cool, specifically if the Enclave faction became protagonists instead of antagonists. That would make Colonel Autumn, (who hopefully learned a lot from Fallout 3) a good guy. This would be quite a plot twist and a nice look on things from the Enclave's previous portrayal in the other Fallout games.
@Viddy33 жыл бұрын
Finally, a vid about this from recently.
@christianphrenger79024 ай бұрын
The Places We Haven’t Seen That Make The Most Sense For The Enclave To Have A Base Is: A. Mount Rushmore B. Alaska Specifically Anchorage. C. Northern Washington D. Dallas C. Hawaii (DLC)
@Pats0c3 жыл бұрын
Would be dope if there's an Enclave remnant in like Hawaii or something since in real life we have like 8 bases including Pearl Harbor on Oahu alone Correction, 8 major bases that are large and notable enough to be put on a map. 👀 There are a number of bunkers here too like the Naval Communications and NSA Bunkers and a bunch of old ones in a lot of mountains from WW2, maybe the US Military expanded these bunkers and facilities instead of mothballing them after WW2, or maybe they reactivated them? Diamond Head Crater is a notable example since it's basically the tropical version of what Big MT looks like, with a number of tunnels and bunkers which used to support the Coastal Artillery regiment during the interwar and WW2 years. There's still a National Guard Depot and a Civil Defense Coordination Center in the crater, with tunnels and roads that are off limits to visitors since you can hike the mountain. All I'm saying is, if there's anywhere where the Enclave should still have a massive foothold, or even just a remnant of the US Military since Hawaii is the headquarters of a number of commands including that of the Pacific Fleet, it would be here in Hawaii. It's the closest state to China, at least if you ignore Alaska, definitely has the largest US Military presence in the Pacific that is within a state (unlike Guam, a territory, or Japan), and has a storied history of fortifications and bunkers, some of which I assume are nuclear bunkers. Hell the Marine Corps Base here has a runway long enough to support Space Shuttle landings, Hawaii is basically a military fortress even today. Would be hella dope to see that be a thing.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
I can definitely see that being a dlc, could be an interesting game, but more likely to be a dlc.
@franciscosansalone Жыл бұрын
Hawaii would have been nuked to hell during the great War, it would have been a major target due to all of the bases you mention in your comment, there wouldn't be much left of Hawaii to build a game or dlc.
@the_official_phantom_yt70223 жыл бұрын
If I had to choose between the enclave and the bos... I'd choose the enclave... god bless America, god bless the enclave!
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
You're god damn right
@1Loftwing13 жыл бұрын
OK you Genesis yikes 😂
@njfhighlights53553 жыл бұрын
@@1Loftwing1 reddit moment yikes not wholesome
@Thagomizer3 жыл бұрын
Did you forget that the Enclave wanted to kill absolutely everyone who wasn't them?
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
@@Thagomizer It's much more complicated than that.
@VorynDagoth4 ай бұрын
The show confirms the enclave are still around in some capacity. Lurking in the shadows... Breeding incinerator proof dogmeat clones for the next few fallout games
@deathdog13923 жыл бұрын
The most interesting story in FO universe possible, Caesar's Legion wins battle of Hover Dam, and during the subsequent expansion comes into conflict with a reemerging Enclave.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
I thinks it's fine if the remnants flex on the ncr by annihilating the legion.
@Thagomizer3 жыл бұрын
The Enclave is gone. There are what, five elderly remnants left? They aren't coming back.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
@@Thagomizer So just because you don't meet any other remnants it means they don't exist?
@definitelyaperson63343 жыл бұрын
@@Thagomizer in that region I admit but not in say Chicago and the rest of America
@Thagomizer3 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative It means they will never be a power in the wasteland ever again. The Brotherhood has a better chance of standing up to the Legion in that scenario, and they're just about extinct.
@protocolsummit1033 жыл бұрын
I feel like the Enclave's story is over, but you do you. Honestly though I think Fallout is in need of something bigger than them.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
I don't really know how you could get bigger.
@protocolsummit1033 жыл бұрын
I like the theories and ideas you are exploring but the way Bethesda has handled them has begun to tire me. Here's hoping that one day there will be a Fallout villain the likes of the Master, cause we haven't seen a personality like this in a long time. NORAD and the other places would be cool Enclave bases to explore though, military bases have always been an obscure and exciting part of the series, meeting the Enclave there would be a great surprise, I just wish they are handled well.
@dottietyre90623 жыл бұрын
Florida was the location of historical items being created I mean The Enclave could have another Raven Rock in Florida but I'm still hoping
@grantrichardet62503 жыл бұрын
They would likely have one at Cheyenne mountain. As fallout tactics isn’t canon.
@tysonpowell21708 ай бұрын
I've always thought it was stupid that they just seemed to " get defeated" when we have never seen anything about Florida, Texas, the Midwest or Alaska. Florida would have something, Texas has always been a big center for military equipment and operations, it explicitly says there's stuff in the Midwest, and how what happened to half the us military in Alaska? I've always been an enclave fan and look forward to seeing them reconquer the US.
@silverbloodborne9495 Жыл бұрын
Me and my friends once made a enclave group based on the few known surviving locations Outbase Chicago Shall stand
@ColonelAutumn-ce1it11 ай бұрын
We are everywhere in the USA waiting for president Edens orders…… oh wait he’s dead
@ENCLAVECMD3 жыл бұрын
GOD BLESS THE ENCLAVE. GOD BLESS AMERICA
@lorddeathofmurdermountain763 жыл бұрын
Another thing I should bring up(having played F3 recently) is that autumn disagrees with eden's plan to what extent I don't know saying his methods are too extreme.While autumn is a villain he does not think mass genocide is a viable option given how well that went in the past(fallout 2) his approach would be either a cure( if a scientist with limited resources can create a FEV cure I'm sure the enclave can create one for normal mutation) but this is just speculation
@gangstalkerofgangstalkers3 жыл бұрын
Smoking that family was legendary.
@smegleymunroe8633 жыл бұрын
“While their are some problems with the organisation” Wow, that’s one hell of a way to put it
@z00mbi3s Жыл бұрын
The future of the Enclave looks for sure better than Brotherhood, Enclave was not ruined so much with changes every game
@stormtrooper71773 жыл бұрын
It could also be described away as only part of the recordings survived listing the main command bunkers/installations.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
The use of alpha and omega as codenames indicates they're a pair. That or there's exactly 24 Enclave bases each codenamed with a letter from the Greek alphabet. It would be so much easier if Bethesda had actually garbled the voices to coincide with the subtitles.
@definitelyaperson63343 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative exactly
@VirusOfCheese Жыл бұрын
I swear to god, if Bethesda doesn't make a game in which you can fully join the Enclave, I will murder someone.
@cooperdavis96632 жыл бұрын
Perhaps there could be an Enclave contingent in NORAD in Colorado Springs?
@lordmango54511 ай бұрын
I think a fallout set in Chicago, where you work with reformers in the enclave to get rid of the eugenicists and truly start to rebuild the wasteland would be so fucking cool
@guynamedbob83743 ай бұрын
Alaska would be a good outpost for the Enclave. The U.S likely established a strong military presence there after the battle of Anchorage, and the fuel reserves the U.S stockpiled could still be there.
@ravenx308nissassa63 жыл бұрын
I'm for the Enclave. Badguys are my thing. I hope they do come into Fallout 76. I'll join them and put down the boyscouts
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
Who said anything about bad guys?
@ravenx308nissassa63 жыл бұрын
Errrrrm, all the neferious deeds they have done. Killing whole vaults, forcing slave labor, and many others. I don't care though. I'm with the Enclave all the way
@ravenx308nissassa63 жыл бұрын
Also I just watched your other vid about them popping up in 76
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
@@ravenx308nissassa6 Eden or Autumn?
@ravenx308nissassa63 жыл бұрын
Eden was a machine and kinda can't be held to the standards of the Enclave, yet at the same time the Enclave programed Eden. Autumn wanted to broaden the Enclave
@Gyrannon Жыл бұрын
Given Fallout's history for the Pre-Great War, they did Annex Canada and it wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility for them to be there as well.
@princesstinklepanties27203 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that in fallout 2 on the oil rig they have a world map with many other locations even on other continents
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
I thought about mentioning them but, in the fallout bible Chris Avellone kinda pointed towards them being there for show.
@AmericanUnionState18243 жыл бұрын
GLORY TO THE ENCLAVE!!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@The-Enclave3 жыл бұрын
We are much, much larger then is shown in Fallout games. It makes more sense to position main force inland becouse coasts are hit the most. Control station was just high command gone rouge while our main force waits inland for the reclamation day.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
That's what so great about the Enclave, you never have to justify them being anywhere, they can just have a bunker there, and I am tempted to make a video about the oil rig going rogue.
@The-Enclave3 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative Damn I'm glad I found this channel there is not much good Enclave content out there. I also have few videos of Enclave bases on mine channel.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
@@The-Enclave if only Bethesda would make bases like that :(
@definitelyaperson63343 жыл бұрын
The enclave good to know some forces still survive outside Appalachia (This post was made when the enclave existed on the oil rig at this time the bunkers external comms were cut by “president” Jefferson to make himself president)
@definitelyaperson63343 жыл бұрын
@@The-Enclave I looked at some of your bases they are of high quality how on earth did you make them?
@afferyaree46403 жыл бұрын
great video ! everyone forgot about the enclave cuz they lost in project purity BUT FINALLY SOMEONE MAKES A VIDEO ON THEM
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
I can't stop making them.
@afferyaree46403 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative well am subscribing
@kazmark_gl86523 жыл бұрын
Honestly I don't think the Enclave should return, unless it's in a new region. it's narratively more interesting to simply face new threats with new ideologies and problems than just continuing to Trott out "things you know"
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
Mix them.
@unnoble_templar45-702 жыл бұрын
I wish this vid was in my recommended when it came out instead of a year later Keep up the good work as you always do
@ENCLAVEDivisionX3 ай бұрын
The pentagon
@redrocken29013 жыл бұрын
my head Cannon is that the enclave is rebuilding in Alaska beside the enclave in the USA wastelands
@gunproofgrandad3 жыл бұрын
Best bet for the wasteland? If fallout two taught me anything it’s that the enclave would kill every single soul who isn’t enclave or a vault dweller. I do t see how that is mankind’s best bet. Having said all that, if you could join them I certainly would lol alas you can’t and I’m really very happy being a follower of the apocalypse
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
My next video would finally stop people from annoying me about this subject once and for all.
@gunproofgrandad3 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative forgive me. I wasn’t meaning to annoy you. When is the next vid? :)
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
@@gunproofgrandad Oh, I don't know, I'm still taking a break, I should have it out in the next two or three weeks. But that's no guarantee.
@gunproofgrandad3 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative fair enough. I’ll keep my eye out for it
@theadeptuscustodes3 жыл бұрын
We're in the South chuckle nuts!
@camsterscool3 жыл бұрын
Your so underrated love the vids keep it up
@cantbebothered14932 жыл бұрын
It’s also good to note that 76 is only a 30 odd years after the war, so the list from the WhiteSprings surveillance only lists any bases that they may have established at that point.
@Litterbugtaylor Жыл бұрын
I refuse to believe they all died when a tribal clapped their oil rig and a teenager clapped their bunker, you're telling me the remnants of the government, with all their plans only had those 2 strongholds, they can be up in Canada with the annexation, down in Mexico from expeditions, chicago, the whitesprings, i want an enclave return
@crypticbait4 ай бұрын
“Somehow the Enclave returned”
@crypticbait4 ай бұрын
Enclave are alive and set a bounty on their AWOL scientist we are so back
@rustkitty2 жыл бұрын
The Autumn the lone wanderer killed could've been a body double too. For one thing I doubt a real colonel would've blurted out information about his troop strength when trapped in a surrounded building knowing that his remaining personnel need to retreat unharrassed.
@AnteUjcic Жыл бұрын
i hate that the enclave always gets defeated, like come on a bit of genocide here and there wont hurt anyone
@deadskullgaming4153 жыл бұрын
Their been many data minds of enclave making a return in a fallout 76 update in year 3s road map aswell as them making a small return in 76s soon Update Steel Dawn. It's most likely In these DLC'S modus's enclave would probably want to take over Appalachia for an enclave territory in case of other enclave groups failed like the west coast enclave and raven rock.
@definitelyaperson63343 жыл бұрын
I mean the brotherhood came back in the latest dlc so who is to say the enclave won’t?
@deadskullgaming4153 жыл бұрын
@@definitelyaperson6334 exactly
@pewdcop81083 жыл бұрын
The enclave is too powerful and smart too be beat just like that. They get beat up by the main character every game, they never get a chance. Like they have a army of armored troopers, vertibirds, why not steam roll every tribe and faction that get in the way in stead of jerking off on bases and shit.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
Because that would be logical, so they won't.
@pewdcop81083 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative true
@Crocthunder3 жыл бұрын
Wouldnt the virus kill them out because it doesnt remove radiation from the world so once everyone on the planet dies they settle and one wiff of radiation would just kill whoever ? They would have to live in a pure tight bubble lol
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
@@Crocthunder Yeah basically.
@wadegames90502 жыл бұрын
Reformed Enclave from the Old World Blue mod in Hearts of Iron IV would make a great game imho
@yehawchucklefuck56322 жыл бұрын
They have been referenced in every game i think
@gabrielaldworth74762 жыл бұрын
What would a Chicago Enclave look like after their failure in DC and California?
@jamesmilton65292 жыл бұрын
A smarter faction focused on bribery, intimidation, and blackmail to achieve it goals. Why send a vertibird when you could buy the locals with some basic supplies. Maybe the local leader has a accident and the Enclave approaches the new leader.
@nadiaw743 жыл бұрын
I agree with your points buuuuuut. We dont have a lot of lore confirmation on the enclaves status so we really dont know their fate. Also I dont like eden or autum. Eden is a hardline purist. But autum is a militarist. Hes not a president he is a general who only looks out for the enclave. This is evident because he wants to use project purity as PR not out of goodness. I know autum is the lesser of 2 evils but it doesnt sit right with me that a non elected general is leading a well armed and trained military while at the same time being opprutunistic. The enclave has ruined its rep so bad who would side with them? The same Guys who tried to kill everyone in the American wasteland. The same guys that wanted to poison the water supply of D.C? Yes eden ordered the player to poison project purity but there still was a civil war in raven rock over what path the enclave should take. I doubt it would sit well with the old guard and might rip apart the enclave from the inside. I also believe that the enclave through its history has forgotten what democracy means. Their is a enclave sente buuut again it is mentioned they have no power. The president does. Those are my points. Still liked your vid :)
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
I think the purifier was more about power than pr. The Enclave radio was giving them pr, no one in the capital wasteland knew who the Enclave were. With the purifier under their control the Enclave could control the entire region.
@nadiaw743 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative well no one rly believes in enclave radio except that old guy who got abducted by them. also could you send me vid links for those instances of outside enclave recruitment.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
@@nadiaw74 I don't know if there's exactly video evidence, it's more just certain characters backstories.
@definitelyaperson63343 жыл бұрын
Some person it would be better for the enclave as a whole to retreat into bunkers and create a network while growing their numbers and being honest with them no lies that could cause a mutiny if and when they go back to the rest of civilisation
@magnuserror93053 жыл бұрын
The Enclave is nice and all, but they fail to b a better option than Mr House, NCR, or Caesars Legion. All if sided with by the courier will out preform the Enclave.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
The Enclave never had the luxury of having the player side with them though.
@magnuserror93053 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative Or being the founder of the greatest tech company in the fallout verse. Or having the largest army, or having the strategic genius of the legion. All 3 factions on there own as is out preform the Enclave. Within the next 15-20 years that gap only grows. The Enclave is only good for the wastes if all those other factions didn't exist.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
@@magnuserror9305 Without the intervention of the player character, the Enclave would have already killed everyone and taken back the united states.
@magnuserror93053 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative Thats hard to say. Seeing how the Enclave were too focused on genocide. But it would change a lot. No ncr, no legion, no fight for hoover dam, etc. Idk how such a power vacuum would play out. Many smaller factions that the ncr suppressed with the player now would have no issues growing. The Enclave would def b pretty strong either way, not all of america strong. But ncr strong.
@magnuserror93053 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative It would be nice to see the Enclave back. But in a new light, much more akin to the legion v ncr. But not with the bos. Since thats been played out to death. Like a new legion style faction and the Enclave for once being seen as the good guys.
@killerbee19742 жыл бұрын
it would be great if an enclave cell was rebuilding the railroad
@phoenixmilburn65984 ай бұрын
They could always just make The Great Lakes Naval Station Underwater Complex Canon and say the Enclave is still a powerful technological threat because that base is half the size of Control Station Enclave its stated to have a population of 500 people but have Vault 1 as an underground city beneath Chicago which has a population of 2000! Twice as many as on the Oil rig all Vault Dwellers with pure Enclave worthy DNA so technically yes when Colonel Autumn says the Enclave is the height of its power he could be talking about the Chicago Enclave 2500 dedicate and sheltered armed to the teeth so on the west coast we has about 1100-1200 tops and on the west coast maybe 800 tops tho i doubt it was any higher than 500-600 and than in the middle we have the Chicago Enclave 500 Enclave descendants who have been waiting 220 years to shine in an underwater facility tho half the size of The Oil Rig is equally as advanced and a Vault with 2000 people in it all dedicated Enclave members as well so look at the west coast Enclave we see in fallout 3 as like a heavily armed detachment of the Chicago Enclave attempting to take D.C. by force tho sworn to secrecy on the existence of Enclave High Command which has been raising questions for years now where is the Enclave high command.....Chicago or they could go the other route and kinda have this whole Chicago story just play out in Alaska and make there Capital Anchorage obviously or Fairbanks up in the center of Alaska because it was protected by the natural terrains or Brethel which is my preferred location due to the Bering Straight being a location stated to have many intact pre-war military facilities and bases primarily in the Bering Straight area located by the Brotherhood of Steel's northern faction from Fallout Extreme
@definitelyaperson63342 жыл бұрын
The thing you have to remember is that the enclave only had 1000 people a most on control station enclave At least three quarters of those died on rig So maybe 250 people made it to Navarro and that’s being generous considering how little warning they had that the rig was about to blow up Let’s say 150 people left for raven rock It’s possible they left people at refueling stations or communications bunkers across America So it’s possible that they could have outposts but most of them would have 20 people or less considering how little personal they had after the rig And since they aren’t exactly open to outsiders they can’t have recruited lots of people People could have had children such as arcade but that’s still 50 children at most and we don’t see any kids in raven rock In conclusion of this rant It’s possible that they still have manned outposts but any major forces would have been wiped out in the capital I think the most we are going to be in the form of remnants or perhaps a small contingent in Chicago but beyond that the most we are getting is long abandoned bunkers and maybe the occasional suit of advanced power armour
@EEE-pv2eo Жыл бұрын
Honestly to stir this pot further, who is even to say Enclave bases exclusively have to be in the United States? I feel like it would also be worth saying that out of all the Vaults, how likely is it that at least one or two are planted by the Enclave to raise a new generation of citizens? Back in fallout 3, when the Enclave soldiers meet the vault dweller who left the vault, the officer addresses her as a “Citizen of the United States” although he tries to kill her, this raises an interesting concept that vault dwellers are a continuation of US citizens, which is exactly what they are intended to be Vault 76 although you’re kind of just shoved to the outside, I think it’s possible some vaults were from the start indoctrinated to join the Enclave
@grantrichardet62503 жыл бұрын
They they still have Cheyenne Mountain they still have that weather as both of those have not appeared in the main fallout series. They also have Chicago as it’s known they have a presence in the region. There are probably other facilities as well. Keep in mind fallout tactics is non cannon so vault 0 isn’t canon. It’s also possible that up in Wyoming and North Dakota there is a presence as there are supposedly command and control facilities up there in real life
@CRUELLANDER3 жыл бұрын
I'm happy that the next fallout game will allow us to be a super mutant, human, or a ghoul, probably others aswell
@gopherasoda24923 жыл бұрын
I love that picture at 2:11
@creamycanoli2013 жыл бұрын
For There next base it should be a giant aircraft carrier makes the most sense
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
My latest video is about that.
@sneed97933 жыл бұрын
SNEEEEEEEEEEEEEED
@benchmo8552 жыл бұрын
what id love above all else for the enclave is for there to be a kind of "political war" where one half stays close to the enclaves original spirit of "Reclaimers of the world" at the expense of the people and a growing base of those who realize that forces like the super mutants, wastelanders and ghoul's would be somewhat useful. Supermutants like pack animals and ghouls an interesting case for those still sane and whove lived since prewar and can recite their social security number and thus apart of america in the truest sense and who the enclave could learn from in a historical sense. basically those that wish to adapt to the new world and use the non vault population as a second class or even an untouchables class while also actually doing something to revive the wasteland from chicago, hell even niagra falls has a hydro eletric dam which could serve as the sight of some kind of purifier which the enclave could construct and activate. either purifing the largest source of fresh water in the world or dooming all to genocide, either way enclave would also get a reliable source of power out of it like the hoover dam so bam. TLDR i want the enclave to be a lawful evil faction infighting with a chaotic evil civil war that decides how they deal with outside threats that encroach on them. like some new kind of Canadian NCR who has a good sized hateboner for americans after they essentially destroyed canada and then later the world before the war, or better yet one that just wants their advanced tech and possible hook to whatever their doing in chicago to take it over for themselves. Or the regular NCR who have finally dealt with conquering the legion's presumed fallen territories (A cult of personality can be as stable as it wants but when theres no personality left, It falls!) I think the NCR could be better serviced with a good ending great khans in Montana tho as some kind of DLC rather than all the way in the great lakes. Or even have the institue come back and actually be a character after having defeated the Brotherhood of steel and effectively demolishing their entire power structure in one fell swoop. possably giving the institute a real opportunity to be driven by a lone suvivor into something approaching real competence by using their incredible technology and drive to actually rebuild the wasteland. and not genuine stupidity involving absurd synths that have no reason to exsist, only masked by Bethesda's approach to world building. That being you can choose what to blatantly ignore rather than actually scrutinize real writing Taking this ending would also give the east coast brotherhood an actual conflict to deal with rather than being cartoons in FO3 and just diet enclave only interesting because of the implied cultural shift of the organization as a whole. IE implied character development. where this conflict of succession could be the catalyst for an interesting plot or even just be interesting with the brotherhood having to retreat and genuinely consider having to use the heavest prewar tech they've accumulated, an introspective look at the whole faction that must consider their mission and if their fit for carrying the cross of possibly becoming what destroyed the world for the good of their organization and possibly the world. to begin development of new instruments of war, for a war to save the wasteland of america from itself. rather than just being blatant hypocrites in fo4 for detonating a nuke with no second thought, just repeating the sins of the past they vowed to prevent with the hoarding of technology.
@bocktordaytona56563 жыл бұрын
The first time i played fallout 4 i always imagine a dlc in wich (like with the railroad but now with bos or institute) u have to put seismographs on certain places and then the ground began to shake in the last place falling down to an inmense tunnel and then discover that is a giant tunnel for an hyper train for the pre war goverment conecting secretly states and bases with underground facilities and the seismic movements was basically enclave super trains filled with heavy mining and military equipment.... Like to reclaim the US or because they are in secret ar war with something really powerful
@jordanlowery56012 жыл бұрын
They could be at Cheyenne mountain complex in Colorado?
@bogotuna48193 жыл бұрын
Next fallout game eeh. I bet My grand childer Will enjoj it one Day
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
By then North Korea will already have dropped their interactive fallout game.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
@Nihulistic99th It will still be a while though. The Zenimax acquisition won't be completed until next year and then Bethesda will definitely need to use a new engine for the game, which also means they'll have to create all new assets for the game. So it will probably be minimum 3 years until the next mainline fallout game is released.
@porpus992 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I would like a story where the main character was born into the Enclave but at some point, your character left due to a questionable action. Maybe eventually leading a revolution of sorts and a civil war within their ranks, but just being a former member would be interesting. Regardless, you salvage what you can from Enclave outpost. Raid with another faction you join, gather resources, equipment, intelligence and maybe sympathizers.
@drinkwater75852 жыл бұрын
I have always wanted to join the faction in the fallout games, by that I mean in the way you join the BOS in fallout 4, where you build up in rank by completing missions, not just joining some remnants or a robot in a bunker. If I can join Caesar's legion or the institute, then I want to join the Enclave.
@natetoogreat44082 жыл бұрын
I think the enclave will try to find a way to make their soldiers have non-radiative Dna just in case if they were ever to redue project purity somewhere else,they would most likely try to get their soldiers unaffected by the chemicals in the purified water
@MrCaputo902 жыл бұрын
I was working on the mod Fallout IV Roma and i always found fascinating the enclave and i don't mind explore their chapter here in Italy.
@AutumnThe_Toaster Жыл бұрын
Well it seems the enclave might come to Appalachia
@Elnegro..2 жыл бұрын
I used to be a bos die hard, but in recent years I've grown to love the enclave especially thier armor ( specifically fallout 2s armor ). I want to join the enclave and destoyed those filthy posers.
@Martian26072 ай бұрын
“They’re the best thing for the wasteland” - objectively wrong
@Mehmet_ErginАй бұрын
They have a secret base in Chicago where thousands of people are sheltered.
@deathdog13923 жыл бұрын
Enclave or Legion are best hope for wasteland in all honesty.
@caesarslegion98723 жыл бұрын
They would make a great alliance in the next fallout new vegas 2
@aimp2273 жыл бұрын
@@caesarslegion9872 I dont think they do a fallout new vegas 2, in that case it would be fallout 5
@fadedflame25373 жыл бұрын
Honestly if they every choose to do a game in a place like Florida I could see the enclave being stationed at like cape Canaveral in order to salvage any and all plans/materials.
@FrankHorigan2 жыл бұрын
I think they should have them go south since they’ve never done a fallout game in the southern region of the USA cause they’ve done east coast north and west and there’s forts and places they could do like fort benning, fort hood,fort Bragg in North Carolina or Sam Houston which is a base in Texas, or fort Lee in Virginia.
@lazarussolomon35412 жыл бұрын
I live in lower Alabama near the gulf, and the amount of Oil rigs here is stagnating. Most are at best an hours ride away form each other. Based on the ships I've seen, I wouldnt be surprised if theres one thats a military operation. Maybe if there is ever a future game set down here the developers can take advantage of that.
@aaaaaaaaaaa15662 жыл бұрын
The cannon doesn't mean shit anymore. Because Bethesda isn't even following it. And it's been messed with since
@hellsgaming50083 жыл бұрын
actually didn't enclave wanted to control who got the water and did not want everyone to have it
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
They wanted to control the purifier, but it seems like they wanted everyone to have water.
@Normalguy16903 жыл бұрын
Colonel autumns enclave would of worked without Eden.
@munkeyofdajungle60063 жыл бұрын
There might technically be a outpost in or off the Gulf of Mexico due to rauls backstory mentioning an oil refinery running. They would target oil/ target oil because of pre war depletion’s
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
I don't remember anything about that from Raul, but I remember Enclave personnel in Fallout 2 mentioning how the radioactive waste from the oil rig's reactor would most likely drift down to Mexico.
@karljohan23002 жыл бұрын
i like to think fallout 3 enclave was more of a slightly rogue or a test to see how the americas was ready for colonization having alot more mega bases all over the country awaiting a clear signal
@fred5406 Жыл бұрын
All I want from fallout 5 is a joinable enclave, which isnt portrayed as illogicaly evil but as more of a doing the wrong thing for the more or less right reasons faction.
@rojaws118311 ай бұрын
But isn’t that the role the BoS usually have?
@fred540611 ай бұрын
@@rojaws1183 in old fallout yes, but Bethesda can't make up their minds about they want the bos to be. Personally I like the edgier bos from 1,2 and NV fallout 4 tried it and failed as per usual because Bethesda don't understand fallout.
@rojaws118311 ай бұрын
@@fred5406 I see your point but I like The Enclave as a more evil version of the BoS. I any case I would prefer if the writers created some new factions for future games. BoS and Enclave are both kind of overused.