The Harm & Obsession with Biopics

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Trin Lovell

Trin Lovell

Жыл бұрын

Today I took a swing at a short video essay discussing the recent obsession with biopics, along with the harm that coincides with it. Talking about all things from The Social Network & The Drop Out to Dahmer and Blonde
There's much to be discussed about when it comes to biographical films and the dangers they hold, I'd love to hear your thoughts and how they compare to mine.
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@graciegrimes9286
@graciegrimes9286 Жыл бұрын
I COMPLETELY agree! The Dahmer obsession was just disturbing and disrespectful to the many people and families hurt by that psycho.
@Kevin.Costner.
@Kevin.Costner. Жыл бұрын
Agree, people were rubbin their clits to Dahmer😭
@LemonSte
@LemonSte Жыл бұрын
Yes, people seem to forget that Dahmer was killing not that long ago and that these victims families are still around to witness these dramatizations
@thomasdilfurd4176
@thomasdilfurd4176 Жыл бұрын
​@@LemonSte and they specifically said they didn't want them made
@disasterxdeath
@disasterxdeath Жыл бұрын
They don’t care. What do y’all expect?
@Kikano-zp3bd
@Kikano-zp3bd Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t believe my eyes when i saw the Evan peters as dahmer edits on tiktok like ppl are sick
@camillefaith2005
@camillefaith2005 Жыл бұрын
Blonde was perhaps the most dissapointing film I have ever seen. It was just a collection of creepy trauma porn fanfiction about Marilyn Monroe and did not tell us anything more about her that we haven't already seen from several other screenplays or books written by mediocre men.
@mailyak442
@mailyak442 Жыл бұрын
Also Marilyn Monroe was probably asexual, they did her dirty!!!
@sora1498
@sora1498 Жыл бұрын
men love to take women's stories and make them all about men
@EmilyOnTheMoon
@EmilyOnTheMoon Жыл бұрын
and the fact that book was written by a woman and ive heard the movie is faithful to the book? like thats so insane to me 😭
@TequilaToothpick
@TequilaToothpick Жыл бұрын
It was a horror movie. The problem was you were expecting a biopic.
@EmilyOnTheMoon
@EmilyOnTheMoon Жыл бұрын
@@TequilaToothpick still a shit horror movie, the filmmaker hated the main character 😭
@patriciagriego75
@patriciagriego75 Жыл бұрын
the era of tiktok where people were bragging about how unphased they were while watching Dahmer was darkkkk. why is it suddenly a flex to not feel empathy? like not being effected by gore is different but to not be effected by the murder of real people is actually crazy
@roxanne_
@roxanne_ Жыл бұрын
Fr!! Like ok you were extremely apathetic when it comes to a show, who cares??? Does that make you cool or something?? It was just so cringy and embarrassing for those people WHO WENT OUT OF THIER WAY just to make a video like that. It’s just honestly so pathetic.
@moistwrmonastring1017
@moistwrmonastring1017 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately didn’t see this phase online, but in real life. In an enclosed space with those people. Bragging. Watching the damn series IN CLASS. I almost cried, I was furious
@nocucumbers5308
@nocucumbers5308 Жыл бұрын
Ikr, I tried watching it since I wanted to know how inaccurate it was. I got through like 2 episodes and that’s it. I don’t get how that series was fun to watch for anyone, it was traumatic for me to watch. I can’t even bare to think how awful it would be for the victims
@lavie7358
@lavie7358 11 ай бұрын
I'll admit I have a thing for any show that is about a police investigation, because it is fun for me and psychotic murderers are intresting as well but that doesn't mean I don't fee empathy, empathy is a very natural human emotion and I can't help but feel it these people bragging about their choice of shows wanna act emotionless and crazy cause it's cool now I guess ? Not to mention the fact that sometimes watching something like just for entertainment sometime dehumanises people in it and that may be the reson why some people don't feel anything regarding it
@GreenLightMe
@GreenLightMe 3 ай бұрын
Why not judge it based on its art it’s either good or not
@andreawest2194
@andreawest2194 Жыл бұрын
I feel like the Dahmer bio-pic shouldn’t have been made, it was just truly disturbing.
@Skypuppy490
@Skypuppy490 Жыл бұрын
I agree, unless the people involved have a HUGE oversight because at that point it's their choice. I think Evan Peters was a good choice for casting, he always plays serial killers that people love to be all weird about
@shonaalannah
@shonaalannah Жыл бұрын
not to mention so much of that show was used as literal meme templates, and it's so sick and twisted to find that stuff funny
@gabslovestay
@gabslovestay Жыл бұрын
@@shonaalannahIt was HEAVILY used in the kpop fandom and it made me absolutely sick
@kpopsolos
@kpopsolos 11 ай бұрын
I literally hate the show so much, every time I see it I feel so disgusting and disappointed
@lavie7358
@lavie7358 11 ай бұрын
I don't see issues with shows like that but it being real life is a little disturbing especially considering that the murderer dude would love to be famous as much as he is rn
@graciee7808
@graciee7808 Жыл бұрын
I, Tonya was the best biopic for me … when people start forgetting that there’s real people involved and start ignoring the victims trauma to make content is where it gets bad
@roxanne_
@roxanne_ Жыл бұрын
Bro the I, Tonya biopic was really entertaining to watch and IT WAS INFORMATIVE!!! It was actually based on those interviews it’s crazy!
@graciee7808
@graciee7808 Жыл бұрын
@@roxanne_ I fully agree … the acting is amazing and is not disrespectful
@kirstynquinn6602
@kirstynquinn6602 Жыл бұрын
@@graciee7808 I would say making Tonya out to be less complicit than she probably was was arguably not super respectful to Nancy
@graciee7808
@graciee7808 Жыл бұрын
@@kirstynquinn6602 I think it’s because it was from Tonyas perspective … when each character is in their interview they leave out specific information or their version of the story doesn’t fully add up. Like the audience can kinda pick up on the fact Tonya wasn’t telling the full truth at certain points.
@cristenkray5192
@cristenkray5192 Жыл бұрын
What was especially disgusting ab the Dahmer series is that 1) they cast Evan Peters, who has a strong young female fanbase, 2) that Dahmer’s victims, predominantly Black and brown queer men, are NEVER given the spotlight, humanization and empathy that a fcking serial kller is given, and the victim’s families aren’t being given compensation for these projects and the exploitation of their family’s trauma. Ryan Murphy is going to hell for MANY reasons, but this was definitely up in the top 3 worst things he’s done.
@gabslovestay
@gabslovestay Жыл бұрын
he got the Zac Efron treatment imo. the amount of edits I saw of him by himself and him and LIZ I was sick to my stomach before AND after. After, I couldn’t even stomach it.
@jkcrawl
@jkcrawl 11 ай бұрын
NEVER given the spotlight, humanization, or empathy? There was a whole episode about one of the victims and their background. The entire premise of the show is about how the system had failed the victims. I agree with everything else you said though, I just can't agree with that bit about the victims when the show was about Dahmer's effect on the community and how he was able to do what he did because of systematic imperfections and how our system fails to protect POC and the LGBTQ community altogether.
@cristenkray5192
@cristenkray5192 11 ай бұрын
@@jkcrawl ahh yes, bc ONE episode with ONE of the victims and their background is totally equivalent & comparable to the entire fcking show & every other piece of media associated with his crimes being strictly ab the serial k!ller… Please bffr. And if the focus was really on how the system failed the victims, maybe they should’ve consulted and compensated the victims’ families. Maybe they should’ve done more to ensure the victims were the central focus of the show and not have every piece of media and marketing associated with it strictly focused on that man. Maybe they should’ve shown more ab how the police actively handed some of his victims back to him… Maybe they shouldn’t have made the show in the first place… Also, it’s not ab both the LGBTQIA+ and BIPOC communities “together,” bc his victims were almost entirely within the intersections of those identities. There is no separation between them- his victims were queer Black and Brown men. It’s also super irresponsible to even insinuate or entertain the idea that they weren’t targeted for that reason. He knew how little protection those intersections have in the world, especially when it comes to policing and the criminal “justice” system.
@jkcrawl
@jkcrawl 9 ай бұрын
@@cristenkray5192 now you're moving the goal posts. First it was "never" now it was "just one", which is also false. The very first episode establishes the theme of the police neglect and Dahmer's white privilege when they show the police ignoring the concerns of Dahmer's tenants, which is a reoccurring theme throughout the ENTIRE show. So it's not "never", it's not just "once", it ls the entire show. The first episode is also told from the perspective of a victim and emphasis is given to the cop's lack of concern in the first episode. The theme is established pretty hard from the start and I'm not sure why you're neglecting it. The show is told from many perspectives and tries to cover a lot of ground and themes. Not just police treatment or lack of concern for the marginalized and how theyre willing to listen to a white man over multiple concerned citizens, but it also touches on mental health. The show also doesn't "sympathize" with Dahmer, he's portrayed as being pretty fucking pathetic from the beginning. As far as compensating the victims, I can agree with you on that point, and honestly maybe you're overall right about how maybe it shouldn't have been made, but your overall analysis of the show and its narrative is objectively wrong. It's like you didn't watch it and just read/watched other people's takes on the show. Your take seems purely reactionary.
@cristenkray5192
@cristenkray5192 9 ай бұрын
@@jkcrawl You’re spending entirely too much time & energy trying to defend this show as if it’s something to be defended at all, and not just another exploitation piece about that case. My comment was from months ago, and I’m not gonna keep arguing with you over whether or not it’s giving victims the spotlight in the way it should, or if it even does anything other than drag this whole case through yet another round of “look everyone, we can put better music and lightning to the ‘nth disgusting dramatization of a very real case with real victims and real lasting trauma on their families and communities for generations to come.” You obviously think that the show does more, and I obviously think that it doesn’t. That’s it.
@jianawoods6872
@jianawoods6872 Жыл бұрын
I feel like biopics like Blonde & Dahmer are basically what the movie Nope was about. These directors are chasing the spectacles of Jeffery Dahmer & Marilyn Monroe one who’s a horrible person who did horrible things that still affects people and a women who didn’t want to be ridiculed and that’s exactly what Blonde did to her and her legacy.
@lindseystein9676
@lindseystein9676 Жыл бұрын
Lifetime biopics (I also pronounce it like bio-pic) are the worst offenders. They’re always awful. The recent Netflix movie Blonde is lifetime level, in my opinion…
@sybill123ful
@sybill123ful Жыл бұрын
anytime i think of lifetime moves in general, i think of wendy williams biopic… the messiest mess
@HexleysCauldron
@HexleysCauldron Жыл бұрын
Whoever thought it was a good idea to romanticize teenage Aaliyah’s relationship with R Kelly in that awful biopic should be jailed.
@doodoo240
@doodoo240 Жыл бұрын
i feel like this all ties into how de-sensitized people are nowadays due to the amount of time people spend online and its so embarassing to watch unfold
@alli631
@alli631 Жыл бұрын
the Dahmer obsession is CRAZYYY. I just recently heard on the news (from the Philippines) that a 15-year-old boy tortured and murd3red his nephew then the police found out he was a Dahmer fanatic. He was even updating his friends with videos and pics of the crime. It's so disgusting with how these biopics affect normal people.
@Maw0
@Maw0 11 ай бұрын
DEAR GOD PLEASE NO!
@treetopjones737
@treetopjones737 8 ай бұрын
That 15 yr old boy was not a normal person to begin with.
@mieko7785
@mieko7785 3 ай бұрын
​@@treetopjones737 No kidding, some teenagers can be incredibly insane. You wouldn't know the difference between them ACTING sane and being insane. I speak through experience and as a still growing teenager.
@PandanaJim
@PandanaJim Жыл бұрын
I appreciate how Tick Tick... Boom! told the audience right out of the gate that the movie is a dramatization of what really happened
@Anotherroom
@Anotherroom Жыл бұрын
I mean, points for honesty, I guess, but... Shouldn't we be smart enough to know this without being told?
@claudettewright365
@claudettewright365 Жыл бұрын
@@Anotherroom I’m honestly shocked at the number of people who think biopics are going to be 100% accurate. That was never, and I mean NEVER, the case. I thought that was common knowledge that at least some things in a biopic were going to be embellished or made up to fill time, but I guess not. I’ve literally known that “based on a true story” means it’s BASED on a true story since I was a child - the core of the story is true, but there are some things that are fictionalized. And if you want to know which parts are real or fictionalized, you can go read about it in a book or online somewhere. There are so many true stories that I never would’ve discovered had it not been for the existence of a biopic (specifically ones that directly involve the families or surviving victims in production), and I think that’s the power with them when they’re done right. You can learn a lot of interesting and inspirational stories, or learn very difficult life lessons because the core of this thing that’s being shown happened in real life. Fictional stories just can’t do that because it’s fiction - those sentiments aren’t taken as seriously since it can’t be directly connected to real life.
@Sunnysideup420
@Sunnysideup420 10 ай бұрын
@@Anotherroom If people were smarter then Jaws wouldn’t have caused such a major fear and hatred towards sharks. I don’t blame films or pieces of media for it entirely, it’s more of lack of education that causes these things. It’s why media literacy is a very important thing to learn and develop
@LukeSilver-fe7iv
@LukeSilver-fe7iv 7 ай бұрын
Yes I loved the bit about the parts Johnathan made up himself that is good storytelling right there and separates the real people from the movie perfectly
@LukeSilver-fe7iv
@LukeSilver-fe7iv 7 ай бұрын
@@claudettewright365 well yeah some people think the Founding Fathers were black thanks to Hamilton considering how illiterate in regards to fiction a lot of the US is it's not that surprising.
@emberfulclass8859
@emberfulclass8859 Жыл бұрын
i completely agree with what you said about criminal biographies because people who watch the show will find some way to sympathize when criminals and then simp over them which i find very upsetting.
@graceh_
@graceh_ Жыл бұрын
Oh my god yes, its so disturbing and insensitive
@Linastdreamsong
@Linastdreamsong Жыл бұрын
It’s cool to see you try something different Trin. Im here for it!
@jennaaaxoxo
@jennaaaxoxo Жыл бұрын
This is such a good video essay, Trin pointed out so many facts and was really coherent with everything that she discussed. I'd love to see more video's like this one!
@racheldeschaine
@racheldeschaine Жыл бұрын
Don’t even get me started on “inspired by true events” You can just basically write whatever the hell you want-Case in point; the conjuring franchise
@hannahcpenner
@hannahcpenner Жыл бұрын
Trin if you are entering your video essay era, I am so here for it!!
@siba81332
@siba81332 Жыл бұрын
One of the only biopic Ive seen and thought was done well was rocketman I think a big part of that is because Elton John actually had a say in the production Edit: I haven’t seen tooo many but I believe they can be great movies a lot of them though do not convey the persons story properly (and maybe I’m talking about blonde idk idk)
@legendwalking5231
@legendwalking5231 Жыл бұрын
Phenomenal video essay for real. Wouldn’t mind more of this
@kaileykinsey3093
@kaileykinsey3093 11 ай бұрын
I think biopics surrounding a celebrities life, musicians in particular, then draws in the fan base of that artist as well. everyone wants to relive the (dramatized) moments like legendary concerts, when their favorite songs were written etc. then you add in that feeling of understanding the artist better. you get that sense of gaining behind the scene glimpses in that artists life. there’s something intimate about them sharing the stories that the general public wouldn’t have known was happening behind closed doors. I think for me I felt this the most with Rocketman, and the reason I think I didn’t feel icky about it or unsettled by the storytelling is because Elton John is still alive and wanted to tell his story. I think for me, the persons choice in having their story told is a big component.
@treetopjones737
@treetopjones737 8 ай бұрын
Bohemian Rhapsody for example was approved by Brian and Roger, it DOES fudge the facts a little in the story, sometimes changing when things happened or fictionalizing moments adding things that did not happen that way. A fact the movie didn't show for example is Freddie was friends with Roger before he joined the band. They had run a stall in a street market thing together selling exotic clothes.
@Lucas1217_
@Lucas1217_ Жыл бұрын
i think it’s interesting to note that film/television isn’t the only part of the entertainment industry that is obsessed with biopics. broadway is as well. within the last ten years we’ve gotten so many jukebox musical biopics, specifically about pop stars. we’ve seen biopic musicals about cher, neil diamond, michael jackson, tina turner, princess diana, and more. although some of these shows have not done well financially (diana the musical is one of the biggest broadway flops in recent history), for the most part they also do incredible during award season. in 2019, stephanie j. block won best actress at the tony awards for playing cher. in 2021 adrienne walker won best actress for playing tina turner. in 2022 myles frost won best actor for playing michael jackson.
@pepperminttree
@pepperminttree Жыл бұрын
I think bio-pics should only be done when the person is alive and can give it their thumbs up. Like the fact that people make up stories to add to make the movie more dramatic is just weird to me (considering it was someones real life) I think i tonya/ wolf of wallstreet are some of the best
@izzyc127
@izzyc127 Жыл бұрын
Some good examples are when the FX TV show Fosse/Verdon was made, Nicole Fosse who is the daughter of broadway dancers Gwen Verdon and Bob Fosse was an executive producer on the TV show. The Selena movie also had the okay with The Quintanilla family and Chris Perez.
@agarsrish
@agarsrish 11 ай бұрын
What about the social network? I mean zucc didn’t give it full marks on accuracy but I think it’s a fair depiction of his character
@libbyf51
@libbyf51 Жыл бұрын
I remember when Dahmer came out, and everyone in my college class kept saying how they’ve watched it or they’re about to, and I never watched it because I kept feeling icky about it even though I love Evan Peters and I’m so glad I didn’t watch it. Thanks for this Trin
@filmaep1524
@filmaep1524 Жыл бұрын
I definetly agree!! I watched the first episode of dahmer and had to turn it off again. I even feel bad abt watching it in the first place now tbh. As you said, this story has been told so many times before. There’s no need to profit off of the suffering of the victims AGAIN!
@lindseycargile1865
@lindseycargile1865 Жыл бұрын
I really needed this because I LOVE Evan and I refused to watch it because of the feelings of the families and how crazy people went over it and I was just now starting to consider watching to see Evan’s performance but thank you for reminding me why I held my stance. I think filming it fucked him up too which I also hate for him.
@anasalomelima3252
@anasalomelima3252 Жыл бұрын
Trin, this is seriously an amazing video! I think we all appreciate the work you put into it and simply had the best time watching it
@nia..6041
@nia..6041 Жыл бұрын
you can tell that Trin's wanted to make video essay for a while. This is so good please make more!
@victoriamedina6789
@victoriamedina6789 Жыл бұрын
So well spoken, researched and overall just an interesting video. I completely agree with you!!
@trinaq
@trinaq Жыл бұрын
Yes, I love this style of video essay, and hope that Trin will do more of them in the future.
@annarou2412
@annarou2412 Жыл бұрын
I loved this video essay!!! Often when it comes to biopics, it’s just really frustrating when a certain person has already been exhausted by media (news, film, etc). Some people’s stories deserve rest (like Marilyn Monroe), while some don’t deserve to be retold in a “new light” (like Dahmer). I also still love biopics but it’s vital to look up what events are fictionalized or exaggerated.
@sunburntnback
@sunburntnback Жыл бұрын
a biopic will never end up on my favorites list. my favorite part of art in general is when its original and creative like people make whole new worlds yet the industry keeps popping out these with all that money not to say that every biopic is bad but they always feel unnecessary
@treetopjones737
@treetopjones737 8 ай бұрын
The big studios are run by corporations, they do not care about real art, maximum money for least amount spent is what they focus on. They hate writers and have done all they can to avoid making original works.
@fusetunes
@fusetunes Жыл бұрын
thank you for talking about critically consuming things at the end. i'm so frustrated with the state of social media and fanbases right now because it feels like everything is based around "oh you have to love every single thing about this movie/show/album and the company/artist behind it otherwise you're a hater!" and it's like... i actually love talking about how to improve the things i watch?? i don't get how it's fun to just make your entire identity a piece of media, especially in this case something that is very obviously corporate, fabricated, and harmful.
@novasthehottestfr
@novasthehottestfr Жыл бұрын
this was SO well said. Along with the things you pointed out, people start "falling for" the murderers/horrible people that are displayed which is one of the worst things about it imo
@seheine
@seheine Жыл бұрын
Loved this video. I feel like you synthesized all of my feelings about biopics, but ESPECIALLY regarding true crime biopics. That said, I absolutely would watch a Mary, Queen of Scots biopic lol. She's pretty fascinating.
@aturps
@aturps Жыл бұрын
Another vital thing to note about the appeal of biopics is the ability of the audience to root for and relate to the protagonist. While fictional movies have the audience rooting for the main characters, we know it is not realistic. There are certain attributes of the story that we know could never happen in our lives. In biopics though, there is a certain level of parasocial ness that the audience begins to feel for the person whose story is being portrayed. We know that this person succeeded, and at the end of the day, what makes us so different from them? Why should we not have the same opportunities as the person's life story we are watching? This idea, combined with the fact that we don't know what part of the biopic is fictional (on first watch, or without further research into the historical figure) creates that deep obsession from the audience's perspective. I definitely agree with the points you made in the video, and I think this "relatability" factor is just one more reason that biopic films/shows are in constant circulation!
@love_espressoooooo
@love_espressoooooo Жыл бұрын
You need to do this more often, this is such a cool concept for new content!!
@ZerBlu
@ZerBlu Жыл бұрын
The Coen brothers took a jab at the "based on a true story" with Fargo. Which I believe was probably for some of the reasons you mentioned. Then another movie called "Kumiko, the Treasure Hunter" (not by the Coen brothers) went further with it and was about someone who found a VHS copy of Fargo and believed that it WAS true, which then became a central part of it's plot. The movie is not so much a joke though, it touches on some heavy subjects, and Rinko Kikuchi gives an amazing performance as well.
@PatheticApathetic
@PatheticApathetic Жыл бұрын
Dude, I have been thinking about the ethics of making biopics for a couple months now. My go-to examples tend to be The Imitation Game and Amadeus. Both are examples of good movies that don’t accurately portray the subject, but they each go about it in different ways that makes Amadeus feel like a more ethical way to do it than The Imitation Game. In Amadeus, the story of Mozart’s life is presented in this heightened reality that the audience couldn’t possibly take seriously, so they leave the movie thinking some of that probably did happen, but not the way it was presented. The Imitation Game, on the other hand, presents itself much more earnestly, so people leave that movie thinking that it’s an accurate portrayal of the life of Alan Turing and his efforts to build the first reprogrammable computer to crack the German Enigma codes in WWII. The issue, or course, is that most of it was completely made up. It’s even worse in that case, because the story of what happened at Bletchley was only declassified a few years before the movie was made. Most people had never even heard of Alan Turing, let alone knew what he had done. It feels very unethical to just lie about his life story and present it as though it’s actually what happened
@mirraculous
@mirraculous Жыл бұрын
i LOVE the way you’re saying everything your way of presenting is so so good and unique
@lauramarie9863
@lauramarie9863 Жыл бұрын
this video is so excellent, trin! i agree media is powerful and our interest in biopics is an open discussion. i’m so glad you had fun making this and i hope to see more video essays from you!!
@luniette
@luniette Жыл бұрын
I think about this with jail interrogation videos lately too tbh….like the amount being spit out for “entertainment” and “education” is beginning to desensitize a lotttaaa ppl
@dannyswrath
@dannyswrath Жыл бұрын
OKAY not to get all philosopher on your film video essay, but launching off what you mentioned about audiences wanting the role to be difficult, I think our society in general has a desire to equate difficulty to quality because of our efficiency-driven capitalist world. we view success as something to be earned, and that sort-of American dream "effort equals results" colors how we view art. art is the least "effortful" form of success one can have, yet, especially in America, the most prominent wealthy people are all "artists" (performers but whatever). So we as a society want that success to be earned somehow, and in a way that we can process and judge for ourselves. I think that's why modern art is so controversial, why it seems all you have to be is complex to be deemed "meaningful", why people fucking HATE pop bands, and why retellings of events we can compare the retelling to are so popular. We need every success story to defend itself with trials and tribulation, because otherwise, the American dream falls apart.
@dannyswrath
@dannyswrath Жыл бұрын
BUT IM JUST A GIRL OKAY JUST A 20 YEAR OLD GIRL PLEASE DONT COME FOR ME IF THIS IS BS
@pauli7051
@pauli7051 Жыл бұрын
I truly believe that Rocketman is the best biopic and just a top tier movie! It’s so creative and visually gorgeous something that is very Elton-like. Mostly because Elton himself was a producer for the film. Which just goes to show that biopics work best when the one it is about is there to consent and write the truth. Also the movie is R rated because it didn’t shy away from the ugly truths of his life, because of this R rating it was robbed from winning any awards. Showing that they cared for telling Elton’s story rather than just making another bad cash grab. I could write and essay on the genius and beauty that is Rocketman
@andreabanuelosavila2317
@andreabanuelosavila2317 11 ай бұрын
I totally agree with your comment, I not only liked Rocketman, but the movie itself left me shocked, moved and with the feeling I could understand some of the self love issues portrayed in the film. The fact HE produced his own biopic made some of the crude scenes even more powerful.
@pauli7051
@pauli7051 11 ай бұрын
@@andreabanuelosavila2317 EXACTLY! I remember watching the Crocodile Rock scene and just thinking “this movie is better than anything I’ve ever seen” and after the Goodbye Yellow Brick Road scene I was absolutely in love with every single thing about the movie. After that I became a huge Elton fan and I got to see him perform live a month ago
@jennadallaire
@jennadallaire Жыл бұрын
I've seen many a biopic including The Social Network, My Friend Dahmer, Extremely Wicked Shockingly Evil and Vile, and The Bling Ring to name a few. I also watched the Dahmer series because I love Evan Peters, and somehow I never really thought about how the over-saturation of these stories would affect and hurt the families of the victims until after I already watched it. It especially upset me when I heard that the families didn't even know this was happening or that some of them were actually be depicted without their consent or knowledge. I cannot imagine having a limited series come out about my sibling's murderer and then myself being a character without me even knowing about it. It's just upsetting and honestly embarrassing that it took me until Dahmer to really see the harm. On another note, ever since the show You came out I've been more worried that violence against women would increase, and these biopics of murderers also aren't helping. Now I'm not saying that we should ban this "genre" all together but I just get terrified that people might get ideas from this type of media. And this is like a super side note but ever since Dahmer, Evan Peters has been seeming even more sad when he is in the media. Now obviously I don't know him personally and maybe he is actually totally fine and I'm just seeing things, but it almost feels like he has just become more low-spirited since working on that project. But if that is the case then honestly I couldn't blame him, playing such dark and evil characters (not just Dahmer but in AHS) must take a tole on you.
@emely6086
@emely6086 Жыл бұрын
trin PLEASE make more video essays this video is truly amazing and i agree the the points you made in this video
@serenazigah5746
@serenazigah5746 Жыл бұрын
TRIN I LOVED THIS VIDEO ESSAY!!! this question about the morals on biopics especially with Dahmar was in my personal statement for uni and the fact that my favourite youtuber made a video essay has made me so happy :)
@0jaybird0
@0jaybird0 Жыл бұрын
I really like how you cite your sources IN the video! I've seen a lot of people just put it in the description, but I appreciate how you include it in the video itself :-)
@Lat-qy9nu
@Lat-qy9nu Жыл бұрын
I haven’t even watched all of the video but I can tell it’s gonna be good, keep doing video essays Trin!
@may.k222
@may.k222 Жыл бұрын
trin video essays >>>>
@Bron275G
@Bron275G Жыл бұрын
This is a really great well-written video essay. Hope to see more content like this from you. Fantastic job as always, Trin!
@lucila444
@lucila444 Жыл бұрын
we need more videos like this!! loved everything from the takes to the editing
@aaronwesley286
@aaronwesley286 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video essay. I would love to see more of them from you. Love hearing your perspective and seeing the responsibility and care you put into inspiring thoughtful discussion on this controversial topic with respect to Blonde and Dahmer. A few of my favorite biopics worth seeing in recent years are Judy, The Eyes of Tammy Faye, and Richard Jewell
@rosemarysettles6273
@rosemarysettles6273 Жыл бұрын
These are my favorite type of videos you make!! Thank you for making such enjoyable videos for us to enjoy throughout the years
@mirraculous
@mirraculous Жыл бұрын
i love when you do different styles and discovering new formats!!!!!!
@wiktcher
@wiktcher Жыл бұрын
I LOVE that you made this video, good for you on taking your time with it, its so well done. very proud and would love to see more videos like these!!!!
@i6fai
@i6fai Жыл бұрын
omg plz do more video essays
@jaycaporusso9706
@jaycaporusso9706 Жыл бұрын
absolutely amazing job on this video essay trin
@anasalomelima3252
@anasalomelima3252 Жыл бұрын
I actually like a lot when you do this kind of videos. You are always the best Trin!
@roryjones-white3654
@roryjones-white3654 Жыл бұрын
our societies obsession with romanticizing killers is seriously scary
@ColegGwentvideos
@ColegGwentvideos Жыл бұрын
Such a brilliant video, Trin, oh my god. This is such a great essay and the way you communicated your arguments were so precise. Thank you for speaking on this and making me feel like im not going insane. (Coming from a person with family who believed that the Dahmer series was well written and not that disrespectful.🤠👍) This is going in my favourite video essays playlist right now lol thanks love
@chiaallen2227
@chiaallen2227 Жыл бұрын
I love watching these and now im craving Trins thoughts on all the live action movies popping out lately
@gaelpinaortiz5301
@gaelpinaortiz5301 Жыл бұрын
Great video researched very nicely. Would definitely like seeing you do more video essays like these
@H.annahPaige
@H.annahPaige Жыл бұрын
this video was so well done, would LOVE to see more video essay style content!!
@kiki13450
@kiki13450 Жыл бұрын
I would say biopics can be a slippery slope. Movies like Rocketman and The Fabelmans are relatively harmless. But true crime ones can be harmful as you said. And movies made about dead people that can’t defend themselves if they are portrayed in a false way
@samanthajones1266
@samanthajones1266 Жыл бұрын
i totally agree with the points you've made about changing the perception of historical times and events through changing their fictionalized narratives! i'd also like to add that this renewed interest in biopics has lead to, in my opinion, a very mercenary view on people and their personal tragedies. if something horrible happens to someone, the public has decided that story no longer belongs to them, and that filmmakers and show-runners are not only allowed but entitled to create entertainment for an audience to gawk at, thereby making this person into a spectacle. it leads to people being treated like characters, like commodities, and i find it profoundly disconcerting.
@aishambengue3024
@aishambengue3024 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video as always, really like the way you did the essay!!. As for biopics, it can be a slippery slope. There are some that are absolutely classics(some of my favorite movies or acting personal are biopics) and give actors opportunities to reach their goal. However, it can at times help to glorify people we aren't suppose to, silence the true voices that actually went through the events or have valid criticisms of the project, make some of the viewers see them as only fictional characters to where we even joke about a victims trauma or just be so inaccurate you wonder why its even based on a true story. Regardless, we are still gonna get biopics till the end of time and since we are having more open conversations about it ,it can be even better .
@maryooowoahh
@maryooowoahh Жыл бұрын
AHH trin i love this video essay era of yours!! the branching out of content is so fun to watch (though i also love your movie commentaries) and im just so proud of how far you’ve come!! but bestie…where are the links you said you’d put in the description?
@artycorp.9230
@artycorp.9230 Жыл бұрын
Trin... I LOVE THIS VIDEO FORMAT!! Do it more pleaseeeee
@quixoticsky
@quixoticsky Жыл бұрын
love the video essay!! i watched the first ep of dahmer with a friend who really wanted to watch it and i am somewhat interested in true crime... i couldn't stomach that first episode :( i felt so disturbed knowing that these were real people, i really don't know how people watched it through. true crime biopics feel so gross to me, at least don't do them for crimes that people are still very much alive from?? other types of biopics are hit or miss to me, but i feel like in general we should just back away from them bc clearly the average person isn't going to look up interviews or behind the scenes, they're going to think the film is mostly accurate and relay that misinfo elsewhere
@azalea5130
@azalea5130 Жыл бұрын
Please do more vids like this! Your way with words are so intelligent and I’d love to hear your opinions more on topics like these :)
@jerrunholt5571
@jerrunholt5571 Жыл бұрын
Haven’t seen the video yet, but I reccomend the Elton John bio pic it’s a very enjoyable movie and John himself approves of it
@nicolenicole..
@nicolenicole.. Жыл бұрын
ok ok video essay!! i’m so excited omgomg
@islayve1795
@islayve1795 Жыл бұрын
I love this format of video! it's great seeing u having fun and doing different things. it would be so cool to see this on women's representation in the horror genre if you were thinking of doing more
@jordanorlando1174
@jordanorlando1174 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video!! I totally think you should do more video essay type stuff in the future!!
@jemimaleach144
@jemimaleach144 Жыл бұрын
Omg I love your video essays and this one perfectly summarised what I've been thinking recently with the rise of biopics. I feel like what makes a good biopic is that it has a story to the film/show because otherwise I would just watch a documentary. And that leads to the question: who has a life that is a story worth telling? Because some stories definitely shouldn't be told in a film/show form (like you said with Dahmer) and some life stories are just too boring/generic that making it into a film/show means you end up rewriting history for more action and conflict to engage audiences. That's why I think a biopic like Rocketman worked really well because not only did Elton John have a very eventful life but they framed the story of the film around not only his rise to fame but his addictions and the ongoing struggle with his identity and how he overcame this. Whether or not you are a fan of Elton John you gain something from his recovery story. People have voiced how his story from this film has helped them when they were struggling, which is why I think people should really think about who's story should they dedicate a biopic to? Because not everyone deserves a biopic and just because you are a famous person doesn't mean your life is interesting enough for a film/show to be made about it.
@mitusken_n
@mitusken_n Жыл бұрын
YEEEAAAAA im living for this video-essay-era !!!
@angelicaadames87
@angelicaadames87 Жыл бұрын
Trin in her video essay era????? I’m so excited
@analuciaguzman9164
@analuciaguzman9164 Жыл бұрын
loving this format
@Ana-yh8ek
@Ana-yh8ek Жыл бұрын
OMG TRIN VIDEO ESSAY ERA, I'M READY!!!!
@eliserundlet4693
@eliserundlet4693 Жыл бұрын
lovinggg video essay trin
@abbycupp9139
@abbycupp9139 Жыл бұрын
great video! Loved this style and the topic!
@mirraculous
@mirraculous Жыл бұрын
you can see how dedicated you were making the video!!!
@Angela-tg3ol
@Angela-tg3ol Жыл бұрын
just saw the Joan is awful black mirror episode and this video hits …
@slimymouse
@slimymouse Жыл бұрын
Love this video essay era for you
@mirraculous
@mirraculous Жыл бұрын
“im not moral king high ground im a 20 year old girl im just doing a little essay i dont want to tell you what your morals should be”
@IconVlog.
@IconVlog. Жыл бұрын
I loved this Trin!!
@anythingsgood236
@anythingsgood236 Жыл бұрын
bio-pic>>>bi-ah-pic
@dilaurentiis
@dilaurentiis Жыл бұрын
love youu sm trin!!
@juliemedrano7972
@juliemedrano7972 Жыл бұрын
if this video was more fun for you to make, I encourage you to do ore video essays like this! Idk about everyone else who watches your videos, but I could listen to you talk about literally anything and enjoy it lol
@it.iz.izz.objero
@it.iz.izz.objero Жыл бұрын
I just clicked on and I’m already begging for you to do more video essays fr
@baehbee7583
@baehbee7583 Жыл бұрын
I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE
@nomnom2922
@nomnom2922 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see more of this from you
@chunkymonkeyjen
@chunkymonkeyjen Жыл бұрын
purrrrrrr trin video essay era lets go
@milesdelis
@milesdelis Жыл бұрын
I love this!!!!! Please more video essays about aspects of film you're interested in!!!!!
@shonaalannah
@shonaalannah Жыл бұрын
For true crime, I think people are really becoming desensitized to it, e.g. women doing their makeup while telling a graphic story of a family massacre. There's a huge difference between documentaries and biopics, and I think for TC it should be left to documentaries. Not tv shows that will become meme templates that further shows the desensitsation of the world. I mean, fans were verbally harassing and attacking the victim's family's online saying "just don't watch it", as if Dahmer didn't have a big marketing billboard with his face on it. Biopics I think should be left for fictionalised characters, or focus on specific parts of one's life (If the George Michael one steers away from his music and goes into the public toilets territory, that'll be disgusting). We don't need to know specific parts of a person's life that we don't know, no matter how famous they were, if we didn't know them personally then we don't have the right to know personal details; the same way I don't know intimate details about the person walking on the opposite side of the road to me, or sitting next to me on the bus. People now feel this entitlement to know everything about famous people, despite most of them just deciding to be in the arts rather than academics that happens to make you a 'celebrity' even without your desire to be
@maximillian664
@maximillian664 Жыл бұрын
Am here for your essay era
@Saucepv897
@Saucepv897 Жыл бұрын
I love Trin Lovell's videos. Have been watching since the pandemic. I honestly agree with her points. I am honestly happy that in 2023 Award season, "Everything everywhere all at once" won so many awards for their originality and creativity.
@centoria7211
@centoria7211 Жыл бұрын
please make more of these!!!
@paigehutchinson6777
@paigehutchinson6777 Жыл бұрын
Loved this style of video!
@declanb3469
@declanb3469 Жыл бұрын
im so here for the video essays
@dilaurentiis
@dilaurentiis Жыл бұрын
god i loveee your bangs
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