Had pressed 65 kgs (143 lbs) couple of weeks back, but started feeling some pain in my back and failed in my previous attempt to press 60 kgs. My bench 1RM is 80 kgs but couldn't press 75 today. I'm waiting for 1.25 kg plates. Should I deload till then?

Lol

The press 3.0 requires you to PUT THE DAMN PLATES ON CORRECTLY DAMMIT LUIS

@@86seahawk make sure you're not over extending your lower back. That's what I was doing. Focus on clenching your gluts and abs. That fixed my issue

It's because she's dangerously underweight...according to SS and Rippetoe, she should at least be 250lbs.

@@yew2oob954 YES OF COURSE. 242 or bust!

It's just a stronger press mate. No other reason I can think of

Olympic Press is just to lift maximum weight in competition

it involves more muscles into the movement, which allows for heavier weights to be used.

He explains in the Video it allows for a straight bar path.

Did you watch the start of the video?

Plenty of videos about the clean, so I'd recommend checking those out. But as for the Olympic press, here's my breakdown: Have a grip width that approximates a clean grip (because you're cleaning from the floor), and with a neutral spine, push your hips forward such that the bar makes physical contact with your mid chest (midway point between your clavicles and nipples), and feel the tension. Feel like you're pushing into the weight, rather than leaning back; leaning back is a lumbar bend and is weak, while pushing into the tension is the strong position. Your weight shifts forward closer to the balls of your feet. Snap back so that you're standing back on your initial starting position - the bar will automatically get pressed to ~nose-forehead level (this is referred to as "catching" the bar from the initial drive), quickly push your hips forward again at the apex of this (you need to practice this first "drive" many times to get the feeling and timing right) and lock out the weight about 95% with your triceps), and then stand straight up while finishing the last 5% of the lockout with your triceps. Don't get lazy by having a huge bend in your elbows while standing up and trying to lockout your triceps from that position - this basically adds weght to the bar. You want to get as close to a full elbow lockout as possible at the apex of the second layback and just finish the job when standing up. The degree of layback for the second layback will vary, similar to how the racking position of cleans and snatches vary from an ATG position, all the way to close to the top position (i.e. the power variants of those lifts). Me personally, I have a moderate layback, and when I decide to specialize in the (clean and) press, my layback may or may not increase. Doesn't really matter imo. Just focus on pushing into the weight and practice the hell out of the lift. Forget the cleaning portion of the lift for now. Practice the initial setting of the hips-the drive. Once you get the timing right (where the bar floats to nose level-ish), push your hips forward again. I like to cue myself to keep the bar over the mid/upper chest (wherever the bar makes contact with during the first layback - I'm sure anthropometry and grip width allow rook for variation as to where this is - just don't let the elbows go behind the bar) for both the first layback (but once you snap back and drive the bar, the bar should be close to your face), and then during the second layback. That seems to be the power/strong position you want to be in based on my experimentations with the lift. It's the best form of the press because allowing the bar to make contact with the chest for some reason lets you use more pec in the movement. The drive feels stronger than the 2.0 and even the 3.0. and for that reason, it's better.

Sure. We will make a video on that.

Just watch weightlifters they are the best at it

Yeah no, this channel is the last and probably worst place to look for advice in Olympic lifting

even 1.25kg plates do not work long term for press. Get yourself also a pair of 0.5kg plates

Have you tried not using your lips?

If did the press with a _vertical_ bar, you definitely did something weird.

@@fsmoura True, I guess I need to phrase that better. When I say vertical, I mean drawing an imaginary line through your body in the center vertically, and following that path with bar. I felt something move in my spine, felt/feels weird. For me, the correct bar path is a vertical path but tilted a few degrees forward. So adding “bar *path* “ to my original comment makes sense. 😃

You strained your neck muscle. That has nothing to do with the bar being "too vertical". You're not going to be able to to progress in this movement if you keep the bar out in front of you. It's not possible. Even this press 2.0 keeps the bar over your center of mass.

@@tjcogger1974 You may be right. Thanks for the input.

@@Overfl00d I've strained my neck on OHP multiple times. It sucks haha. Hope you feel better soon

Think the theory is, it's more reproduceable vs the push presss. Again their theory if I recall correctly.

this is still a competition strict press. as long as there's no knee bend and feet are glued to the ground throughout the movement.

Push press trains lockout more so than a strict press or 2.0. Olympic press is different than either. It usually has a wider grip, rests on the clavicles, and begins with a static hips forward, followed by a strong rebound of the body, which propels the bar to ~forehead height, then from the apex of that point, the lifter performs a second layback via pushing forward into the tension, rather than focusing on leaning backward and then proceeds to lock out the weight. It's similar to the jerk in that one of the main things that differentiates a jerk and a push press is the double knee bend. Likewise with the Olympic press, there's a double hip bend. But for some reason this makes people have some undue, herd mentality animosity towards the lift. But I'm willing to bet that if it were never dropped from the olympics and guys like Lasha or Lu were doing it, the vast majority of people would have nothing but praise for it. Most people just hate it because it looks odd at first since virtually nobody presses that way any more, sadly. There's a pretty good video on KZfaq of Bill March (one of the best pressers from the old school days) executing perfect Olympic/Garcy Presses in training if you wanted to check that out.

@D B It is not a push press but it is a “push press” 😉

@D B point being at this point you might aswell push press

@D B says who? either strict press push press or both separately But this version is just a silly idea

@D B I already strict press and push press There's no point of this at all, my programming comes from someone with a 205kg overhead, can you say the same?

Because that hip bounce is just stupid

First of all, it's dumbbells, not dumbells. Second of all, dumbbells aren't stupid- get out of the novice stage please.

@@cezarypruszkowski9523 dumbbells are pretty stupid tho.

@@cezarypruszkowski9523 It's a typo, Einstein. I'm a novice and my squat is 405 x 5. What was your novice squat? L o l

@@keenanschouten2582 Pal, I follow Starting Strength too. Even though the bar is one’s main tool for training, it is not the only one. Dumbbells are a useful accessory to training (Dumbbell press is not the same as barbell press). Think holistically, not just your numbers.

Dumbells are stupid because.... can't wait to hear your answer