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It's almost as if 'left' and 'right' were just used to designate republicans from monarchists during the French Revolution, and as a binary completely fails to encompass the complexities of contemporary politics.

Can we get a good image of the "Family Tree of American Ideology" somewhere?

I've been looking at the evolution in Canadian ideology recently. It's been interesting to see the influence of Britain and America on the history, and also the contrast of a unique Canadian ideology that persists. Canadian conservatism is directly descendant from British High Toryism than anything from America, which is why the modern Conservative party seems to differ greatly from the modern Republicans stateside who have their own history as illustrated in your video. Good stuff.

From an European POV: US politics has two parties which are both Liberal and Capitalist. There’s maybe a 2-3% of difference in dealing with important internal affairs such as Privatization vs State in regards of Healthcare, Public transportation, Energy and so on. There’s bo option for a variation on the economic model, also the foreign politics varies in a marginal way, while a little bit more relevant than others. To me, as a European, US politics seems more concerned to make people discuss about what a woman is and if God exists or not, rather than anything else.

Euros cannot gaslight me by saying "Democrats are actually right wing" no.

I'm not sure we can say that the founding fathers were largely authoritarian. There's a solid divide between Federalists and Anti-Federalists and there were a good mix of both or neither.

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We need ranked choice voting to break the two-party system.

Z's audience is easily the most politically diverse group I've ever seen

As European this video was very informative for me. So Europeans focus more on if a party is economically left or right wing. Americans focus more on if a party is socially right or left wing. The Democrats are socially left wing and economically right wing which explains why Americans consider them left wing and Europeans consider them right wing. Another reason why many Americans see them as left wing could also be that the Democrats are still more left wing than Repulicans.

The problem is both leading parties are afraid of a third option 🤨

I really like the graph at the end of the video. It demonstrates quite well simultaneously how the two parties "swapped" and that they evolved from the pre-existing ideologies

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Calling both right wing makes both mad Liberals: stop calling me racist like that Conservatives: how dare you compare those liberals to me, now I have to go further right.

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I enjoyed looking at your chart, but I think the Neo Con machinations is missing a tie with the New Dealism. The original Neo Cons were Kennedy/Truman liberals who felt disillusioned by excesses of the Great Society. I believe it was Michael Herrington who coined the term Neo Con as a slight to his former colleagues.

The American political system can be best be described as Cronyism. There is far too much governmental intervention to call us a true market based economy. Actual policy is driven mostly by an unelected bureaucracy rather than the elected congress members. That bureaucracy accounts for roughly 2% of the entire US workforce, with their payroll in the hundreds of billions or dollars - all of which come from taxes. So when non Americans hear American's complaining about taxes, you must understand that vast majority of what we pay in taxes does not actually go into programs that come back to our fellow citizens, it goes into the pockets of the bureaucracy, the cronies of both them and the elected officials, and oh yeah mostly to pay off debt that we have run up as we just continue to print fake dollars.

What if America had taken any of the other ideological routes? That would have been really interesting.

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@MonsieurDean how did you decide on symbols for each party/political ideology?

As a European, I see both parties as liberal. The European "new right" is also, in part, economically left.

Local involvement is woefully lacking in many communities across our Union. And in many of our communities, the population's attention is turned away from their own local affairs towards issues far away in cities and States where we don't even know the names of the individual people who live there. In such a politicized environment that crosses State borders continent-wide, it is small wonder indeed that even we as American citizens have such a poor understanding of the issues and their nuances. So much so that there are only two nominal parties at the federal level for dozens of States, each with many different regional cultures and populations that have many more differences that aren't adequately addressed at the local level all to maintain a ham-fisted attempt at propping up a "National" identity that never truly existed. The United States of America is a Federation of sovereign States that have agreed to a joint experiment in governance at what is properly considered a supra-national level. And it is the deliberate twisting of words that manages to cajole much of our populations into thinking otherwise. Each colony, and each State that followed, was and still is a nation unto itself. With the populations of each united under a shared identity. With such a wide breadth of different peoples across the continent still committed even to this day to perpetuating the Union under a false pretext for so long, the cracks are only becoming more apparent in the thin veneer of the United States of America as a nation. The histories of our own neighborhoods and communities are not being taught, with our 'nationalized' school system favoring a historical stance that instead teaches that it is the federal government that inherently wields power and authority. With so many politicians from 'foreign' States dictating how people hundreds of miles away in completely unknown circumstances should live to benefit far-away strangers rather than their own communities, it will only be a matter of time before the true state of affairs becomes known. And the longer such circumstances are denied, the greater the upheaval will eventually be if local concerns are not favored at the local level and if federal representatives don't butt-out of other people's business.

With me I'm in favor of having a small well-regulated federal government having a large militia for National defense.

But the southern democrats were never conservative. They supported high taxes and regulations just at the state level

Something interesting to listen to while I work

Can I get a that ideological tree to share? I don't see it pinned or in description.

Where can I get the concept map?

Not only from a european perspective. I grew in brazil, a country whose educational system is plagued with old guard leftist hegemony (the guys who think scandinavia is a successful example of socialism and that the average soviet citizen really ate better than the averagr american), and this idea that both US parties are right wing is prevalent and was taught

I've always thought that the 'get the government out of my wallet and back into my neighbor's bedroom' idea was both contradictory and hypocritical. But it exactly expresses the desires of far too many. That's the world they want to live in.

I have always used Political Compass, which places the U.S. Democrats further Right, closer to the Canadian Conservatives, while the Canadian Liberals and Greens are Centre-Right. The Canadian NDP and Bloc Quebecois are placed Centre-Left. The U.S. Republicans are placed closer to the far-right, close to the Canadian People's Party. As a Lefter I have never considered Democrats or Liberals to be Left at all and would never vote for them.

People need to see this.

I’m someone who in terms of political ideologies am not well versed in all of the definitions and terminology. But I took one of those political spectrum quizzes and found myself on the right-bottom quadrant which based on the chart was right wing libertarian. Which political ideology would i be most associated with based off this?

Another great video

I need that family tree, man.

Just coming across this and I have to say I really like the this family tree of ideologies concept. It does service to how ideology has changed over time, and who influenced who, as opposed to being the static and limiting concepts of "left," and "right" that get commonly used. The most fascinating thing for me personally is I can see a clear connection between different ideologies I have generally agreed with over American History. I like Whigism, Early Republicanism (and perhaps Moderate Republicanism, but I don't know that era well), Progressivism and New Dealism; each of these being an evolution of the previous ideology (incorporating elements of other ideologies on the way). Great work!

Can you stretch this out and do a series on each?

Another great video as always! Quick questions: Did American Socialism have parts of its roots from Moderate Republicanism, and if so, how? Also, what can be considered the major differences between Federalism and the Republicans in the post-Civil War era?

In summary, throughout our history we switch between lassai-fare and interventionist economics every 32 - 60 years.

I woul probably connect Agrarian Populisim with American Socialism and also find a way to connect Libertarianism to Anarchism. My own political evolution went Social Conservative>Conservative>Constitutional Conservative>Libertarian>Anarchist

I wish this country has a permanently three-party system.

how was the german empire ideologically incompatible ?

Hey, I don't know if you have done this what if before, but could you do a what if of if new England was a state? If it's a stupid idea, then please tell me :)

I wouldn't say that our perspective in the US is "social rather than economic". I would say "much more social than economic". But that's a really minor quibble. Good video.

i think you only talk to people from (2:11) Metropolitan cities in Europe, where the cities Amsterdam, London Berlin, and Paris fall under since yes those people are more outspoken but are the minority. you can use the recent Dutch election to show you which Political groups are more dominant in the country. and see the other elections of the Upcoming years

Love this channel, just hope we can see the Rockwell/Malcolm X video again in future. @MonsieurDean

"Right and Left are two sides if the same Corrupt and Evil Coin".

New Dealism is nothing like Democratic Socialism. Democratic Socialism means taking over certain industries for example Rail, coal, gas, telephones, electricity, oil etc and have a single government owned company providing them to everyone. New Dealism is more akin to European Social Democracy in that it intended to ameliorate the excesses of laissez faire capitalism through setting up a strong welfare state funded through tax and spend policies, and also through having high quality regulations like the Glass Stegall Act

Can you share the graph?

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It should be national populism focused on Americans first

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I think people (on both sides of the Atlantic) get too hung up on the fact that we call the two governing coalitions "parties". We do have different political streams of thought, it's just that they have joined/negotiated a position within the two prevailing coalitions. European governments/nations label their ideological tribes as parties, but they still end up coalescing into two opposing factions in order for one to gain power.

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One of the common misconceptions about American politics is that Republicans support deregulation or the free market. This frustrates me as a Right-Libertarian because A) Right-wing economics doesn't necessarily mean deregulation, and B) Both parties are crony capitalist and in the pockets of corporations, therefore neither would support the free market. And while you could make a case that Republicans favor less regulation, that isn't really true on the local and oftentimes state levels (except when it comes to some issues).

Are you more economically right left or centrist?

One of the seismic shifts in American politics that I wasn't aware of until recently was when the Democratic Party absorbed the Populists. As I understand it, Populism wasn't a party per se but more so an ideology centered around social concerns of a mass of people not being controlled by an elite few, especially economically. However, there are echoes of Populism in both the Republican and Democrat parties now as both sides want to demonstrate that they are in favor of improving economic conditions for the "little guy" or the "working man." They each just approach that stated goal by different means.

Not Monsieur Z “having no idea” what symbol to put in the auth-left corner on the thumbnail

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both current “parties” in the US are just global liberalists. any distinctions are simply table dressing (even the “conservatives” are pro-homosexual rights). true right wing ideas are totally anathema, both in mainline politics and in common life. only in close private company may one be honest without consequence. good video.

Add Paleolibertarianism next. It’s a combination of the cultural views of paleoconservatism & principles of Libertarianism

This only really makes sense if you're positioning these ideologies on a relative scale. If you're gonna position them on an absolute scale, it's definitely fair to say that it's a much more restricted range compared to Europe, and that it's not on the left.

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5:27 and if I don’t recall, that was when the USA EXPLODED into the power house it became

blue son what if superman became president of the US?

How about the party of commonsense 🤔

Could you do a video on ranked choice voting?

Time to make a new party with blackjack

this video was awesome. thank you. to me american political belief/ideology seems/feels to be consistently typically around the republican/progressive/new deal part of that chart you have in the video, bringing in or expelling other beliefs as needed. neo conservative/reganism just really has rubbed me the wrong way since i was a little kid and seems to truly be hurting the country at times sometimes it seems in numerous/countless ways but now we have maga/trump cultism which seems to be perverting everything, it seems to incorporate a bit of william jennings bryan populism and hitler's facism rants/public speeches, while trying to pull in some isolationist/progressive party things and going further afield then reganism/neo conservatism did/does...it seems to actually mean nothing while trying to tell a diaspora of people everything they want to hear almost. great insight overall and very visual way of clearly explaining our politics and history and how many parties there have actually been or belief systems and parties and great way of explaining how close the us has typically been to monarchism and authoritarianism at times. even today everyone so often assumes the us is a democracy when most history books explain it is not a democracy at all but a democracy themed federal republic or a federal democratic republic and sometimes teachers used the fact that franklin delano roosevelt aka fdr had the same initials to help people remember the official system of governance the country is stated to have. also history books often indicate that countries with Democratic or Democratic republic are very often authoritarian or communist or socialist or a mix of communist and socialist, but dont want the negative connotations of those words so they call themselves Peoples Republic or Democratic Republic instead. the usa has always seemed fascinated with the british royals even after breaking away and becoming its own seperate country, there were some loyalist families who stayed here and many fled to canada and some of those came back after it seemed safe here again from what ive heard and read over the years and many public school teachers still give kids tests to see if they or their family would have been likely to be a loyalist or not and whether they would have supported the british or whether burgeoning us nationalism would have held their loyalty while at the same time they stayed loyal to the crown or felt sympathetic to the crown still. in terms of culture and people the us had alot in common with 1800s era germany and probably by most logical viewpoints joined germany in the first world war or stayed isolationist/neutral and it surprised everyone but the british when the us entered the war on the british side pretty much it often seemed to me growing up from what i read and heard. to this day history books often focus on the german kaiser and on the british royals. even civilization ii the popular pc game from the 1990s had monarchy programmed in as seemingly the best government option with some of the benefits of absolutism/despotism and some of the benefits of a republic or democracy and even the cia trying to topple governments and prop up friendly ones, usually the cia/us seem to see constitutional monarchies and democracies as friendly/aligned with the us not just democracies. the us still even uses most of the british imperial weights and measures system even when britain itself transitioned eventually to the competing german/france/continental based metric system.

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I think its best described with me and an ex girlfriend of mine. Both from working class families. She was from the rural area and I was from the city. We were both populists but I was right wing ans she was left wing.

The two party system is way too cutthroat and dry. We need more than 3 parties and to stop treating politics like sports teams.

Ideologues always win the argument because their idealism doesn't work in real life. Ever. Because life is always messy, and ideologues love to be both idealistic and logically consistent all the time. But, that's okay. Because losing an argument with an ideologue is like losing to a pig in a turd-eating contest.

Hey Mr Z, i was just looking for your 7 ages of America playlist and saw that your channel has no playlists listed. If that's not intentional it might be worth listing them there, just a suggestion.

Yeah this makes much more sense why the United States is more fucked up politically

Sometimes when it comes down to the two parties you can vote for for president. It seems like you can't meet the middle ground or your policies and ideas don't belong in both of those parties. That's just how I feel about the two parties in my opinion.

Great

I think the Whigs were descended from the Federalists and not the Jeffersonians.

Good video. It helps to solidify the case that we need a national divorce.#teampaleonationalism

Honestly, the left - right political spectrum isn't really that reliable, since economic and social polices don't always necessarily go hand-in-hand with each other. One may be left-wing economically, but right-wing socially, or visa versa.

Left af here and I approve of this analysis. Solid work Z.

All these animals but WHERE IS THE SNAKE??

Always been an Authoritarian Centrist. Always said Hamilton is my favorite founder.

Maturing is realizing everything Enlightenment based is Liberal and Progressive since it’s all in the same philosophical 💡 family tree 🌳 Monarchy is therefore based ☝️

The real, overarching issue with the U.S voting system, (from an australian point of view) is that there is no choice. To make your vote count you are forced to choose which senile old man you hate less, and not which candidate you genuinely agree with more. Both of your parties are run by rich old people funded by America's wealthiest, and no real and meaningful change will EVER occur as long as this system is in place. Ideally, America would flourish under a system of preferential voting, so that third parties would stand a chance at getting seats, and a powerful crossbench could rise in both houses, free to bargain with the Democrats and Republicans and generally providing a far more accurate depiction of the ideological leanings of modern America. As it stands, the country is divided along an arbitrary line of Blue and Red, that mean nothing in determining the real leanings of the person/county/state in question. I truly believe that to shatter the power held by these two parties would bring the U.S into a better age of political freedom, and even help to depolarise the splintered state. TLDR: America's whole voting system is shit, Trump and Biden are both old and senile, fuck the two party system

I go all the way from Mises to Hayek.

Well beside US and Europe there are many other countries. Like the largest democracy in the World (India). It is better to see those perspectives as well. The world is changing, the dogmas from US and Europe are not as influential as once was.

Something that i would add is that all american ideologys fall into two centeral camps, federalist and anti-federalist. With the federalist being in favor of a strong central government and the anti-federalist being in favor of a decentralized goverment. Each ideology in america is thus, defined by the question of how much power should government have, with their answer denoting whether they are left or right wing.

America is to the left of many Western European countries on several issues. Including some economic. Such as taxes.

You left out Eisenhower.

Bull shet... The new deal stole our silver and gave us stinking blood fiat dollars.. Roll On

Traditional European style Social Democracy is nothing like Clinton's economic policy. Clintonism is the same as Blairism or 3rd way. European Social Democracy finds its modern expression in the Nordic Model

What about us centrists??

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I consider both the Democratic and Republican parties as representing the two sides of the Socialist coin. The Democrats are International Socialists similar to the parties of the USSR, Red China, the DPRK, in its desire to create a one party Socialist state. Conversely, the Republicans are more National Socialists in conflict with International Socialism. There are no countries currently governed by National Socialists that I can identify, though some South American countries have approached it.

My ideology is DylanGTech Nationalism.

The idea that the Democrats are a right-wing party is only propagated by left-wing ideologues, and requires ignoring a lot about the party. The left-right spectrum is pretty reductive, but the Democrats fall on the left side of the spectrum: * The Democratic Party is a part of the Progressive Alliance, and international organisation of Social Democrat & Progressive Parties. * The Democrats dominant ideology is known as Social Liberalism or Progressive Liberalism. This is considered centre to centre-left by European standards, depending on the party. * The Democrats advocate and legislate for egalitarian measures and a mixed economy, just like other centre-left parties. * Many European "Conservative" parties aren't particularly Conservative. The UK Tories coming to mind. * Multiple Democrats are also members of the Democratic Socialists of America. While it is true the Democrats lean more towards free market economics than other Progressive parties, that's due to a small moderate wing that doesn't completely agree with the majority of their party. In many cases, the Democrats are more extreme than their European counterparts when it comes to things like deficit spending or abortion. The standard for the latter in Europe is 14 to 16 weeks. Many Democrat run states in the US have no restrictions on abortion whatsoever.

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