The History of Lindon (Ossiriand), Realm of Gil-galad

The History of Lindon (Ossiriand), Realm of Gil-galad - Region Spotlight

Рет қаралды 38,729

Жыл бұрын

Lindon, formerly called Ossiriand, was the realm of the Green Elves in the Elder Days, Gil-galad in the Second Age, and Círdan during the Third and Fourth Ages. Thank you all so much for watching, let me know your thoughts on Lindon in the comments below! As always, a great thanks to the online artists whose visual works made this video possible! If you are one of the artists, please let me know and I will post your name and a link to your work in this description!
#LordoftheRings
#Silmarillion
#RingsofPower
Mythologie Candles:
mythologiecandles.com/?ref=kB...
Consider donating to our Patreon for the Westernesse Podcast and Discord Server:
/ menofthewest
Check out our Merch:
www.spreadshirt.com/shop/user...
Check out our music channel:
/ @musicmotw
Join us on Facebook at:
/ yoystan
Join us on Twitter at:
/ yoystan
Finrod Felagund, King of Nargothrond - Epic Character History:
• Finrod Felagund, King ...
High King Ereinion Gil-galad - Epic Character History:
• High King Ereinion Gil...
Círdan the Shipwright - Epic Character History:
• Círdan the Shipwright ...
Related articles:
tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Lindon
tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Ossir...
lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Lindon
tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Elves...
Thank you for your (Valar and Elf tiers) patronage and support!
adam petrlik
Anthony Harmon
Arthur
Blair Scouten
Brandon Glidden
Daniel Burns
Dorwin Gray
Merlin
Elizabeth Calvert
John Hume
Jonathan Putnam
Kyle Wetzel
Mark Kralick
Matt Sibbach
Maz Gibs
merten
Molly Sullivan
Peter Sheppard
Rhys Jenkins
Sam mcbee
April Green
Brent Paredes
Chiara Siaset
Corwin Nemeth
Dale Starbuck
Helko
Jpcjr
Margaretann Litawa
Matthew Jacoby
Matthew Rivas
Matthew Shrubsole
Memory Troll
Peter DeVault
Psynexus
Susan Henry
Tobias Göldner
Van Hardison, PhD
metalguy87
Miranda Fuller
(These are active patrons, if you don’t see your name, there may be an issue with your donation)
The new Men of the West thumbnail logo overlay was created by Raffe:
@RaffetheRandom on Twitter
The new Men of the West logo was created by Beau:
beauy.art?...
The new Men of the West intro was created by Tyler Lund:
Tyler Josef Lund on Strikingly (mystrikingly.com)
The final image “Bag End” was created by Wayne Glassbrook at designly.net
The first song used in this video:
Bittersweet by Kevin MacLeod
Link: incompetech.filmmusic.io/song...
License: filmmusic.io/standard-license
The last song used in this video is from:
library.techsmith.com/
Many related and/or used art come from these artists and sources:
Ted Nasmith:
www.tednasmith.com/
Jenny Dolfen:
goldseven.wordpress.com/
Alan Lee:
www.iamag.co/the-art-of-alan-...
John Howe:
www.john-howe.com/portfolio/g...
Hildebrant brothers:
www.brothershildebrandt.com/Br...
DonatoArts:
www.deviantart.com/donatoarts
Magali Villeneuve
www.magali-villeneuve.com/
Wolfanita:
www.deviantart.com/wolfanita
Gerwell:
/ gerwell
Mirach Ravaia:
www.deviantart.com/mirachrava...
Kaprriss:
www.deviantart.com/kaprriss/g...
EKukanova:
www.deviantart.com/ekukanova/...
steamey:
www.deviantart.com/steamey
Laurelinartistry:
/ laurelinartistry
SaMo-art:
www.deviantart.com/samo-art/g...
kimberly80:
www.deviantart.com/kimberly80...
Anke Eissmann:
anke.edoras-art.de/anke_illust...
Matthew Stewart:
www.matthew-stewart.com/the-gr...
qi-art:
www.deviantart.com/qi-art/art...
peet:
www.deviantart.com/peet/art/G...
www.deviantart.com/peet/art/h...
steamey:
www.deviantart.com/steamey/ar...
www.deviantart.com/steamey/ar...
EKukanova:
www.deviantart.com/ekukanova/...
MatejCadil:
www.deviantart.com/matejcadil...
SarkaSkorpikova:
www.deviantart.com/sarkaskorp...
sstefiart:
www.deviantart.com/sstefiart/...
Olga Ok & Fred Bennett:
www.artstation.com/artwork/qA...

Пікірлер: 95

@ovrair6340 Жыл бұрын

I love that there's middle earth content on KZfaq that isn't all about controversy and heated arguments, that there's a small corner of comfort and education on the masterful worldbuilding of tolkein. Your channel and your voice are so relaxing and your videos are always a treat to watch, (or rather listen to, as I do). Thank you for making these videos, I cannot express my gratitude.

@MenoftheWest Жыл бұрын

I appreciate that, and I’m glad I can share this content with you all! Even though I will have videos discussing the Rings of Power, these lore videos will always be the main focus and heart of the channel. 😄

@dbeckman85 Жыл бұрын

There is good reason to be skeptical of Amazon's fan fiction show. However I look at it like the original stories will always be there and we can choose to just be chill and let it be what it is. They can't ruin the books.

@sid2112 Жыл бұрын

@@dbeckman85 And that's the truth. A billion dollar fan fiction series is still fan fiction and should be treated as such. It would be like trying to compare literally everything George RR Martin wrote with Greyhawk Adventures. Sure they have the same places and names and the like, but they aren't the same thing. Looking at you Goodkind...

@grillmeisterkush6396 Жыл бұрын

this is the best channel

@cm275 Жыл бұрын

I’m long past the point of caring about internet drama around fictional universes, but never forget that outrage sells and making click bait is much easier than the thoughtful content found here.

@JK-zl2ux Жыл бұрын

You know that it’s one of the best fictional worlds when you can make 5 years worth of content about it!

@ErelasInglor Жыл бұрын

I've always been curious about how the elves of Lindon interacted with the remaining dwarves of Ered Luin in the mountains there, especially since Belegost or Túrosto/Gabilgathol wasn't completely destroyed (unlike Nogrod, but rather left in ruin by its people of which many scattered or left for Khazad-Dûm in the 2nd Age). I have a feeling Tolkien meant to work more with this but never came back around to it. Thus why his son made some changes to the location of the great fortress city on later maps that his father had.

@orrointhewise3913 Жыл бұрын

"The sea calls us home" Never realized it before but this is one of the few lands that connects all the ages together In the fist age it was on the farthest borders that were shown on the map and by the third age it was the farthest region from mordor. Interesting how things are the same but somehow look different with time Truly fascinating 🤔

@KertaDrake Жыл бұрын

Elves: Oh hey, our property is now beachfront! We can sell it off to Men now that it's value has skyrocketed and finally move off this orc-infested continent!

@orrointhewise3913 Жыл бұрын

@@KertaDrake 🤣🤣🤣

@KertaDrake Жыл бұрын

@@Enerdhil He could very well have had the skill known as "swimming", been in a boat at the time, or perhaps Ulmo was just being his helpful self again.

@slicerneons3300 Жыл бұрын

I first heard of Lindon as the Stronghold in the Light Green section of the Risk Board game(been a few years but pretty sure that is Eriador). Strategically important in game but I always wondered why the movies never mentioned it. I believe it is a good thing when you come across a section of lore you know nothing about; reminds you to be humble since there is always something you have still to learn, and it inspires you to deep dive and gain a new appreciation for the franchise you are a fan of all over again.

@johnquach8821 Жыл бұрын

Very nice with this Region History content. I've always liked these region history highlights!

@marionbaggins Жыл бұрын

Man, Lindon is one of the most beautiful places in Middle Earth...That is still around in the 3rd Age, Score for the Silmarillion!!! If people know what I mean, Many Places created in the Silmarillion died in the Silmarillion!!! Thanks, Mellon for your Last Video before ROP this week, Until How you would do a LOTR Series...Marion Baggins Out!!!

@yodaslovetoy Жыл бұрын

"On second thought, let's not go to Lindon. Tis' a silly place." - some king somewhere

@marcusblackwell2372 Жыл бұрын

More like "sacred" in this context

@Bramandin Жыл бұрын

Who said that? :D

@seankim1592 Жыл бұрын

Interesting that Lindon acted as a haven throughout history: the Green Elves, Beren and Luthien, remaining Noldor and Teleri, and maybe so of Elendil's group too. Sad that it went from a peaceful land to a sanctuary to a refuge to at last a desolate land full of history but with no one to appreciate it deeply like the elves would. Interesting too the elves in Lindon helped the sons of Feanor. Which son(s) do you think the green elves in Ossiriand had the most friendly relationship with?

@MenoftheWest Жыл бұрын

Great point Sean! I really like how you said it, Lindon always acted as a haven throughout history! That’s a great question! I think it would have been Caranthir due to his northern proximity in Thargelion.

@seankim1592 Жыл бұрын

@@MenoftheWest Interesting you said Caranthir considering how self-righteous he felt about other peoples. I thought that maybe they would be chill with Amrod and Amros considering their proximity too.

@adamcrookedsmile Жыл бұрын

Maglor should get along fine in the land of music, he was a celebrated singer after all

@KatrinEgilsdottir Жыл бұрын

I Love your voice and attitude as much as the info. You clearly have a passion for the subject and it shows in your voice and and makes your videos my favorite of their style on youtube.

@lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615 Жыл бұрын

Keep up the great work Mellon! It's always nice to hear of Lindon, and the good king Gil-Galad. ECTHELION

@johanabigasova6770 Жыл бұрын

When it comes to Lindon, one of things that comes to my mind except some tolkienists things is this: Anatar *comes to Lindon* Gil-Galad: "You shall not pass!"

@thebrotherskrynn Жыл бұрын

Another great video, love the history of Lindon! It always gets me wanting to write and create histories. Tolkien had a true gift for mythology, and you for recounting the wondrous history and lore of his world Yoystan!

@thedreadtyger Жыл бұрын

Lindon is my favorite. I have so many vivid memories of how its country overlaid the country of my youth as I read. I can see it clearly even now. Thank you for reminding me of better days.

@terrymccorry8849 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for more content man!

@Dare_To_Game Жыл бұрын

Fantastic video, as always. Enjoyed it very much.

@menukjau Жыл бұрын

Fantastic work as always.

@logansfury Жыл бұрын

Another fun and interesting video of Tolkien's world. The art of Jenny Dolfen that you present here is breathtaking. She is an amazing artist and I love the faces she creates for Tolkien's characters. Thank you very much for the upload, it was very entertaining to watch.

@deanostanley8530 Жыл бұрын

What a breath of fresh air

@rodac100cook7 Жыл бұрын

Love your middle earth lore and commentary. Very accurate and Keep up the good material

@Huskytabby Жыл бұрын

Great new video!!!

@cmsart Жыл бұрын

I'm 10 minutes into the new Lord of the Rings Amazon show decided to press pause and come to this channel

@jimeley2580 Жыл бұрын

Love it!

@PoshLifeforME Жыл бұрын

Blessed are those that stumbled upon Lindon after the elves left. That would make a good adaptation. Evil's fingers searching and finding.

@chefitaly7339 Жыл бұрын

Awesome

@molegrip3860 Жыл бұрын

Lindon is the only place in all of Arda where an elf may grow a beard. :P

@baystated Жыл бұрын

It makes me wonder, ...afterwards? Any of the abandoned Elven realms like the Havens. If other peoples went there... sure, they would not have their full former glory, but would there be an everlasting imprint on them, even after all the walls had fallen and covered with trees and meadows? Long after all peoples forgot what once was there, without knowing why, would you ...feel something?

@neverjabr8588 Жыл бұрын

Prime should have gotten you and a few other channels to do the show,!!? Lol ,,,,seriously, I’ve learned Tons on LOTR and the rest of the ages,,,, thanks

@Bramandin Жыл бұрын

Seriously. It's like these billionaires never had a good idea in their lives. Just round up the youtube crew of LOTR content creators, give them the money and they are certain to come up with a better show then what we got. It is so simple and a no-brainer.

@stefandewet1021 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video as always! Just a nitpick: I would have appreciated it if you didn't use the horribly out-of-scale map of drowned Beleriand in relation to the new coastline - Amon Ereb is supposed to still stand in Forlindon close to the new shoreline, for example.

@albertcapley6894 Жыл бұрын

I'm curious how you feel about the way Lindon is handled in The One Ring rpg, (or even in MERP although they took a great many liberties with that game to say the least) I've found The One Ring to be a beautifully crafted rendition of Tolkiens world and I've been a fan of the system since the 1st edition came out but I just got my hands on the 2nd edition book and the region focus has shifted from the wilderlands east of the misty mountains and North of Gondor, over to the westernmost reaches of Endor specifically the Shire and Rivendel seem to be the focus so they have brought their take for Lindon, Ered Luien, and even lake Evenedium (spelling lol). Great video as always, this corner of the fandom is practically the only place free of... Strife(?) Nowadays and I thank you for that as well!

@wyvernfallgaming Жыл бұрын

@Men of the West was the fortress of barad dur larger in its towers above ground or larger in its pits underground?

@RobiCerati Жыл бұрын

I love the western coast!

@haydenmorgan-dunn3027 Жыл бұрын

If you haven't already, can you make a video on thr history of Fornost??

@jamesrosales89 Жыл бұрын

thankyou :)

@shanenolan8252 Жыл бұрын

,thanks .

@mariapazgonzalezlesme Жыл бұрын

My daily Sunday dose of Middle-Earth's lore. 💛🧝🏻‍♂️🧝‍♀️

@hikaruvortex Жыл бұрын

😃 Amazing

@barracuda7366 Жыл бұрын

Another great/epic video by U Men Of The West, tell me do U make video of your own opinion on new show LOTR Rings Of Power , I wanna see your opinion because there are rumours that they made everything wrong from timeline and so many others things such as characters and wars, so please bro make your review on series.....

@TheSaneHatter Жыл бұрын

Regarding Lindon's fate (which seemed uncertain in the notes of the King's Writer during the Fourth Age), I would make a case for its disappearance by pointing out that the land was, for a long time, not protected or sustained by one of the Three Rings, as Lothlorien and Imladris were, since Cirdan had given his ring to Gandalf. It may already have been diminished greatly by the time that the story ended (I always had the impression that only the Grey Havens were left), and surely no one stayed behind when the ships were gone, no matter what Gondor suspected. (Indeed, it's worth noting that this wasn't where Legolas chose to sail from, when his time came: perhaps it was no longer available to use?)

@marcusblackwell2372 Жыл бұрын

Did Men or any other creatures (that were of the Free Peoples) come to reside in any of the Elven realms of Middle-Earth? If not, how come? I would think they would like to keep some part of their kin alive in Middle-Earth

@spencerfoster8634 Жыл бұрын

Daemon Targeryan (Matt (Dr. who) Smith).. The perfect Anatar - if wardrobe have him orange eyes!!

@Bramandin Жыл бұрын

Gray Heavens are my favorite place in LOTR movies. I just finished watching the third movie earlier today, and I thought that after Gandalf, Frodo and Bilbo depart, Gray Havens remain literally empty of all people.

@joshuawstone08 Жыл бұрын

I would love lotro to expand on lindon

@eden6611 Жыл бұрын

The saddest part is as Celeborn and Cirdan left someone remained in Middle Earth. A long forgotten elf: Maglor, son of Feanor. He is been wandering along the coasts of Middle Earth for millenia bound by his Oath and there shall he remain. Alone, one of the first Noldor from Valinor to return to Middle Earth in the First Era and the last elf there.

@crazykids2004 Жыл бұрын

It's sad to see such a wonderful kingdom get abandoned but it will happen eventually in times of peace and war

@janrudnicki6111 Жыл бұрын

Polecam

@anthonydees1189 Жыл бұрын

👏👍

@user-mb1hg4qu9f 2 ай бұрын

👍👍

@paulwagner688 Жыл бұрын

Here's a topic for you: After the death of Gil-galad, why wasn't Galadriel--the last of the House of Finwe in Middle Earth--named High Queen of the Noldor that remained? Surely she had the greater claim than Cirdan or Elrond...I have my thoughts on the matter, but I think it would be a great topic for discussion.

@Rauruatreides Жыл бұрын

I think it was probably because there were very few Noldor left by that time. There was Rivendell, but it was in reality more like a big mansion in a river valley than a proper place. Then there is Lindon, which at this point is primarily consisted of Sindar, since most Noldor from there have sailed to the West. Overall, very few Noldor out there, so Galadriel would likely have been uninterested due to the little power it came with. She was only interested in having actual power, such as with being Lady of Lothlorien. There are probably other reasons, though I'm not going to drag this on further.

@gandalf8216 Жыл бұрын

@@Rauruatreides Could be much simpler, that Noldor doesn't split hierarchies between Valinor or Arda, that their High King or Queen already resides in Valinor and that's why there is none in Arda.

@Rauruatreides Жыл бұрын

@@gandalf8216 there's also the fact that at the same time Fingolfin was King, Finarfin was back in Valinor. Then again that isn't for sure, since the Silmarillion only states that he ruled the remaining Noldor back in Tirion rather than stating any kind of kingship. As with all things Tolkien, it is complicated.

@istari0 Жыл бұрын

There was no real reason for a High King or Queen at that point. The Noldor suffered large losses in both the War of the Elves and Sauron and the War of the Last Alliance. None of the remaining Noldor leaders took the title of King or Queen (High or otherwise) over any land the Noldor still ruled after the death of Gil-Galad. It was roughly analogous to the leaders of the Dúnedain calling themselves Chieftains instead of Kings after the fall of Arnor and the death of King Arvedui.

@menukjau Жыл бұрын

There was no point bestowing that title to Galadriel or Elrond (Cirdan was the lord of the Sindar after the death of Thingol). Most of the elves in their realms were Sindarin, and the Noldor were very few. The actual High King of Noldor remains in Valinor, and Galadriel wouldn't disrespect her father. By the time of the third age, the elves that remained in Middle Earth knew their time was coming to an end, and they all eventually had to set sail to Valinor.

@alanmike6883 Жыл бұрын

Probably the best place to live in the third age

@venkelos6996 Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately for me, I usually feel my favorite elves are the worst among them; the likes of Eol and Feanor. They aren't "good" characters, but they show the most diversity among what is otherwise a painfully perfect people, and who often feel so only because they had the convenience of being written that way. Feanor and Eol, though, were "bad elves", in their own way, and neither could just blame the machinations of Morgoth, or hus taint upon the world; their evil was simply a byproduct of who they were, and I like that, when having to compare the elves to Tolkien's other races. As for the rest of the elves, I think Cirdan is my favorite. Gil-Galad is wonderful, and Fingolfin literally challenged the devil to fight, and then maimed him badly, before being slain, but i like Cirdan dutifully putting his own wants and desires on hold, for literally millennia, to ferry other elves across the sea, and waiting through the many changes of the world to finally take his turn. Elves leave because they wither in Middle Earth; in a world that changes too much for their immortal souls to bear, and Cirdan is among the oldest of them, yet he also waited the longest. Unlike Galadriel and Elrond, he didn't have his ring, to stave off decay, and resist diminishing, yet he held true in the Havens, making possible his peoples' departure, before finally accepting his own reward, and leaving on the last ship.

@glennross85 Жыл бұрын

I never saw Elves as perfect, the first time we meet them in The Hobbit they are drinking and roasting the dwarves as they enter Rivendell, then the next group of Elves we meet throw them all in a dungeon and Thorin and Co can escape because the Elves are once again all busy drinking. Galadriel was tempted by the ring, Elronds wife was traumatised to near death, dont get me started on the first age Noldor, where are these perfect Elves you speak of? Probably just the ones who stayed in Valinor maybe 🤔

@QCzar Жыл бұрын

Tolkien wrote no character or people as wholly perfect, save the One, Eru Ilúvatar. There is, however, a kind of hierarchy of piety. It seems Elves are the highest in this amongst the incarnate beings of Arda, being most highly attuned to whatever part of the theme concerns such matters. Additionally, it is of note that Fëanor, Eöl and their sons broke as bad as they did. It stands to reason that they are among the worst and that there may indeed be many other elves that are sullen, craven, perverse or cruel, just to a lesser extent. To what extent is arguable, but I doubt the story of Gwenithil the lecherous elf-maiden would survive long enough for Bilbo and Frodo to write about. Lastly, consider the utility of agreeableness when living amongst immortal beings. Being ever cheerless, untrustworthy, erratic or uncaring as to one's tidiness might make for an unpleasant experience for a life that goes ever on lest cut by violence (perhaps a fitting end to such an ornery existence). Therefore, such beings may be highly motivated to appear as "perfect" as possible. I imagine the reputational hit of being "that" elf would last for centuries. tl/dr: Yes, Tolkien's elves are better than you at everything, but they're hardly perfect.

@Bramandin Жыл бұрын

That is interesting Matthew. I, on the contrary, feel a giant wave of relief when confronted with perfection of the elves. It is so relaxing to be in the company of someone who is not terminally trashy, for a change.

@Jayjay-qe6um Жыл бұрын

"...the last whose realm was fair and free between the Mountains and the Sea." -- The Fall of Gil-galad

@Bramandin Жыл бұрын

Imagine walking the streets of Gray Havens after the last ship has departed.

@NoName-sz5lu Жыл бұрын

I like the Silvan and sindar as a group more than the noldor. Bite me....🐸

@jcook693 Жыл бұрын

wait elizabeth calbert with the tiny human Alex?

@canadanionerdo5434 Жыл бұрын

Sooo this is where the Elves "die" in?

@johnrainsman6650 Жыл бұрын

See

@johnrainsman6650 Жыл бұрын

mychannel

@jakebastian6726 Жыл бұрын

Ah I just did. Let me guess. You wanted people to see your Legolas video to give you design tips, BUT...your comment wouldn't show big, so you had to break it small?

@shrubby-ov4yw Жыл бұрын

Okay all you discord basement dwellers of this channel: is it time to admit i told you so? After the steaming hot garbage that just got dumped on your Tolkien doorstep?