Elven Settlements in the First Age

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Many were the great Elven settlements of the First Age, from Gondolin, to Nargothrond, to Doriath, and many others as well! Concerning these realms of the Elder Days, Tolkien’s Silmarillion tells their stories, and we discuss them here today! Thank you all so much for watching, let me know your thoughts about these Elven settlements in the comments below! As always, a great thanks to the online artists whose visual works made this video possible! If you are one of the artists, please let me know and I will post your name and a link to your work in this description!
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@Not-Ap 2 жыл бұрын

Fun Fact: Godolin took 200 years to build before it was inhabited. That should give you some idea to the size and scope of the city. That's even more time then it took to build the pyramids supposedly.

@123healthylife Жыл бұрын

To all these, The fall of Gondolin was the saddest and the last painful defeat of the Elder days in first age.... And its story alone is perfect for a standalone movie

@ThePowerFrank 2 жыл бұрын

Finrod: Hey Thingol can I copy your cavern home? Thingol: Yeah just make sure to change it a little Finrod: Alright

@roberthornibrook6344 2 жыл бұрын

We really need a Middle Earth game based in the first age.

@goodputin4324 2 жыл бұрын

Not allowed by Tolkien Estate.

@razz0rric106 2 жыл бұрын

MERP

@razz0rric106 2 жыл бұрын

ROLEMASTER

@davidandrews2972 2 жыл бұрын

It'd be difficult to make that fun though, as the good guys lose so often.

@roberthornibrook6344 2 жыл бұрын

@@davidandrews2972 Who says you play the good guys in it? Maybe a little bit of both! Hmmm..

@licmir3663 2 жыл бұрын

I like the idea of Tolkien not giving many details about Aman or else we’d start asking questions about commerce, taxation, social class etc. It works better with vague details and the sense that it’s heaven on earth.

@alexstewart9747 2 жыл бұрын

Tolkien’s work fires the imagination. Something that George Martin seemed to miss in his criticism of Middle Earth. Unlucky George.

@timonsolus 2 жыл бұрын

Commerce and taxation would be unnecessary in Aman, I am sure. As for social class, it’s a feudal culture, with kings at the head, and relatives of the kings as nobles.

@tarnopol 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I agree: an excellent point. I'm sure Tolkien understood that, too: you want mystery, make it remote and not fully explained. So did Kubrick and Clarke in 2001. So did Lovecraft, in another mode: the more you explain, the less horrifying-remote The Old Ones are. Later authors made the mistake of explaining.

@therealelderking5830 2 жыл бұрын

It also helps that there are less details about stuff like Mordor and more so about Angband and Utumuno. It’s up to the reader to figure out what horrors lay there.

@licmir3663 2 жыл бұрын

@@timonsolus yeah, but who would clean the latrines in this place in which commerce and taxation is unnecessary? If commerce is nonexistent, how people acquire goods? Charity? Please, don’t try to make excuses. The concept works because Tolkien knew he would enter a quagmire if he tried. He was wise and did well.

@alexstewart9747 2 жыл бұрын

Heirs of Tolkien. Please keep the Silmarillion and the First Age forever sacred. 🙏

@orrointhewise3913 2 жыл бұрын

"Do you hear that? We're going to see the elves!" The 3rd age gets all the press, but 1st age...man; I would have gone straight to Doriath and try to figure out the girdle of Melion like a kid playing with the roll up window in a car haha Then just a short trip to see the foundations of Gondolin being laid Ooooooofffff now that's a vacation 😄

@goodputin4324 2 жыл бұрын

Give me Gondolin and Nargothrond all day long. Not interested with Menegroth lol

@FantasticExplorers 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, if I could go anywhere in Arda's history: the 1st age FOR DAYS!!!!

@tylersoto7465 2 жыл бұрын

I had a dream once that I was a immortal god being with super strength like superman, super speed and flight, could heal anything and anyone with a touch make things come alive with a touch , turn anything or anyone to any creature I wanted and could shoot solar beams out of my hands etc and brought enlightenment and prosperity to middle earth after sauron died, I tamed Shelob by beating her up and the people of Gondor had a huge supply of spider silk to make elaborate fine clothes, dresses, shirts, pants , hats and rope and tapestries and it's spider silk it made their clothes bullet proof basically being safer if attacked and made gondor more wealthy and went to moria to help clear out the orcs for the dwarves to recolonize it and Killed the watcher lake monster at moria and brought it to gondor and people had a big feast eating lots of sushi that night and boy did they feast and for some reason they teriyaki, orange and Wassabi sauces but I couldn't eat it 🤢, so i asked them to just cook me a whole beef cow filling a table full of beef etc with a pile of melted cheese, ale and pipe weed and we celebrated , Me and Gandalf had a blowing smoke contest with our smoke pipes, and just watching the people live simply, happy and blessed lives made me feel happy and content and I'll come around once every few months or so with mighty catches I get from strong monsters and creatures giving to them to feast on, make fine furs and clothes, jewelry etc, or find a big stash of gold, jewels or metals that I find or mine and so forth and so forth just living as middle earth protector and sustainer lol 😎😙

@xtremeranger30 2 жыл бұрын

Turgon wanted to recreate something so beautiful that reminded him of his home in Tirion back in Aman. Gondolin was the result of his pride and nostalgia for Tirion. Then in the end his arrogance brought the downfall of him and his city.

@user-rs7xf5tm9s 2 жыл бұрын

Finally someone who says it. Turgon is such an interesting character but people tends to forget about his complexity and just get mad at him

@goodputin4324 2 жыл бұрын

Not arrogance but pride. He did not heed Ulmo's warning. Love not too much the making of thy hand.

@user-rs7xf5tm9s 2 жыл бұрын

@@dshack5690 If you refer to the Doom of Mandos. It was unavoidable. But about Gondolin. I bet things would have been different if Turgon left the city.

@WhoIsCalli 2 жыл бұрын

Always been fascinated with Gondolin. How crazy would it be to see it on my tv screen one day 🤞😬

@apdarkness905 2 жыл бұрын

The eldest children of Ilúvatar have indeed been through hardships and lost much, yet they endured and safeguarded Middle Earth from many evils and they will undoubtedly have a great roll to play upon Dagor Dagorath. Only time will tell

@keithhudgins1904 2 жыл бұрын

Na Dagoth Ur sucks. He's already dead. Heart or Lorkhan? More like the BUTT of Lorkhan. HAHA! Thank god for Kagrenac's tools amirite?

@user-rs7xf5tm9s 2 жыл бұрын

I love Gondolin so much

@melkhiordarkfell4354 2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic video, as much as I love Tolkien, we just have so so little material about places like Hithlum and the very early settlements of the Noldor and so little on the years there. Not to mention just how much lost potential there is for the Years of the Trees but from the viewpoint of those not in Aman, imagine for example, Melkor was in prisoned for three Ages before the First Age, so imagine life for these ages, no Sun or Moon, no light from the Two Tree, no day just an endless starry night and how utterly shocking it would have been at the first rising of the sun at the dawn of the First Age.

@catavar9921 2 жыл бұрын

Re-read the Silmarillion recently. The first age is still my favorite.

@rangerofthenorth1970 2 жыл бұрын

Every time when you upload a new video I think I know everythimg about any subject but still I always learn something new and its never boring, its only better and better.Thanks Yoystan!!

@pianogang2273 2 жыл бұрын

Nice description for your channel! :D

@goodputin4324 2 жыл бұрын

My only regret is not having much more info regarding the most secretive Noldor fortification in the First Age - Nargothrond. How many Noldor dwelled there during its might when Finrod was king? Curse Turin for wanting a bridge to be built into the cave.

@farahahmed8201 Жыл бұрын

And yk, there were probably many other Noldor fortresses and cities, it's just that Tolkein never mentioned them or their names

@timbotook6447 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, Yoystan. I have gone back and started with the Silmarillion again. It is great to have a high elf like yourself to help a simple hobbit like me as I go along!

@MenoftheWest 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Timbo! I'm glad I could help you out, my Hobbit friend :)

@goodputin4324 2 жыл бұрын

Ask me anything as well.

@ErelasInglor 2 жыл бұрын

I'm always surprised how often Himring is forgotten as one of the strongholds of the elves of Beleriand...especially since it survived as the isle of Himling into the Third Age. Hmmm...

@goodputin4324 2 жыл бұрын

It's because it was the Feanorian stronghold. Unpopular

@thethirdrichard7787 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed! It was well defended for a long time before Maedhros and his brothers were betrayed ....

@thethirdrichard7787 2 жыл бұрын

I have a personal head canon that if Maglor is still alive in the 3rd age, he'd be composing music in the ruin of Himring on Tol Himling.

@ErelasInglor 2 жыл бұрын

@@thethirdrichard7787 Love that idea...but lol, personal head canon = fanfiction

@thethirdrichard7787 2 жыл бұрын

@@ErelasInglor LOL I don't write fanfiction but I suppose someone could. I've seen some great fanart that suggests what Maglor is doing in the 3rd age though. Beautiful sad stuff

@williamnoland6338 2 жыл бұрын

Great vid I love the elven settlements of the years of the trees and the first age such beauty it sad that as the doom of the noldor said “ all you will create will fall” I am happy thought that we at least got to read of these amazing realms while they lasted

@truthfulgaming996 2 жыл бұрын

This is a masterpiece of a video. Men of the West is an awesome channel for Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit content.

@goodputin4324 2 жыл бұрын

But this is the Silmarillion content. A different book lol

@truthfulgaming996 2 жыл бұрын

@@goodputin4324 That is true, but it still adds to the awesomeness of both of those respective works by establishing the backstory for many of the various places and the origins of their names.

@goodputin4324 2 жыл бұрын

@@truthfulgaming996 ask me anything related to the 3 books if you're interested

@truthfulgaming996 2 жыл бұрын

@@goodputin4324 I definitely will. The Silmarrillion is HUGE and complex, to be sure.

@Ross-ch9vv 2 жыл бұрын

I see a new men of the west video, I click.

@ChaosBud 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, always a great listen.

@sanctusservus4714 2 жыл бұрын

Simple as.

@ali_kiddo 2 жыл бұрын

Are you an elf?

@marionbaggins 2 жыл бұрын

I read a funny meme, of Gondolin being the Hide and Seek champion of the First Age...Of course they weren't exaggerating!!! Thanks Mellon, for another Settlements of Middle Earth, until Mithril's Video...Marion Baggins Out!!!

@heisenpsych3198 2 жыл бұрын

I feel so empty inside but there is something about Lord of the Rings and its world and lore and by extension, these videos, that bring me so much peace. I can't explain it. Thank you so much. ❤❤❤

@tylersoto7465 2 жыл бұрын

I know the feeling it's probably depression like me and watching and listening about lord of the rings is amazing and awestruck feeling lol 😎😙

@ChiaraSiasat 2 жыл бұрын

Great video once again Yoystan! The First Age is probably my favorite time period in the Legendarium, there is just so much rich history there.

@GeneralKenobi75 2 жыл бұрын

I really like these series. Great detail about the elves of the First Age when they were at the height of their power. Although one correction. The elves of the Falas who Cirdan ruled were not Sindaran like their kin in Doriath, but were another lost kindred of Teleri, the Falathrim. The ones who stopped on the coast of Beleriand and refused to cross the sea of Belegaer with the rest of their kin. They swore allegiance to their kin in Doriath under Thingol, but they aren't identified as Sindar, but as their own race of elves.

@bgonzales817 2 жыл бұрын

Been thinking about doing a minecraft build of Gondolin. Definitely gonna do it now lol. (I'll probably post a pic in Facebook group im a part of called Middle-Earth. It will be weeks or even a month before i have anything worth sharing. This just spare time hobby i don't have anywhere else i would share this.)

@Mr.Erikstad 2 жыл бұрын

That would be amazing!

@coryspang7548 2 жыл бұрын

Do It. It's one of my favorite Elven cities of the First Age

@TheRealB40 2 жыл бұрын

Man I’m gonna keep my eye on this post for updates I’d love to see that 💯

@bgonzales817 2 жыл бұрын

@@coryspang7548 im definitely gonna do it lol. I'll probably put a pic up on the Facebook group im a part of when its done.

@walterlowe7252 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheRealB40 same im going to check in here for updates

@thedirty530 2 жыл бұрын

I was just trying to map this out for myself last night.... All the LOTR channels have made this so much more fun to read for myself.... Thank you guys!

@prabhjot1986able 2 жыл бұрын

Reading the silmarillion and the events of the first age of middle earth Such fascinating geography Also the battles of the first age are the most interesting among the legendarium

@unclejoe7466 2 жыл бұрын

Great review video! I had to keep replaying segments to recall the densely presented information. Loved it.

@ellesartelcontar2387 2 жыл бұрын

Great video as always and I love Tolkien’s world and your work

@gigiquillian4776 2 жыл бұрын

Always at the top of my list of things to do...Tolkien fan videos.. Outstanding work on this one. Thank you so much for highlighting the areas you speak about throughout the video...SOOOooo helpful!

@jackolantern147 2 жыл бұрын

Another epic video Yoysten. I was wondering if you could make a video going greater into detail about the earlier wars of Arda. Such as the wars of the making of Arda, the war of the Lamps, and the war for sake of the elves. For such titanic conflicts, I think they do not receive as much recognition as they should. If you need some help, the Book of Lost Tales put a few unique spins on certain events. Though most are not considered Canon anymore, so do with it as you will.

@XthamadmanX 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, keep doing the fantastic work!

@rossmullen7826 2 жыл бұрын

Even though I already know all of this, I still enjoy watching your videos

@JFLATTERMANN 2 жыл бұрын

For the last king of the Greenelves before Celeborn and Galadriel, check out Amroth who fell in love with Nimrodel and drowned. His father was Amdir, but I have no dates for him found as yet.

@johnsowa999 2 жыл бұрын

Ty for teaching me about the world of middle earth your Passion about this subject comes through your videos

@atlaswar2425 2 жыл бұрын

Oh I have needed this summarized

@darkestnight0014 2 жыл бұрын

Please do the settlements of Men next!!😁

@jacobsedlack1173 2 жыл бұрын

If I had to pick anywhere to live in Beleriand then I would have to choose the Havens of Sirion since it held out the longest against Morgoth and the Kinslayers.

@timsisco3742 2 жыл бұрын

Loved this video, thanks.

@shadowofchaos8932 2 жыл бұрын

First. Best part of Sunday. Thanks for the video Yoysten!

@Windrose86 2 жыл бұрын

Been looking forward to this one!

@Sin526 2 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah, this is the good stuff right here!

@ethanedminsten2894 2 жыл бұрын

Damn your channel is so good man. I just get engrossed and realize ive been watching for an hour haha. Love the content.

@tiradox6348 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video, always love the elven settlements, not sure if it's the beauty or mystery, maybe a mix of both.

@abhirai6124 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for making this channel. Love from India ❤️

@Steel-101 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video Mr. West!! Oh by the way I apologize for that ridiculous reply argument on the last video. I know you like to keep your videos chill.

@Halbared 2 жыл бұрын

Marvellous video, mellon.

@ebeneezerscrooge8394 2 жыл бұрын

Another great video

@ted1045 2 жыл бұрын

Well, you broke me. You got me to buy a copy of the Silmarillion.

@user-rs7xf5tm9s 2 жыл бұрын

DO IT

@benjaminmartins4118 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video

@shanenolan8252 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks great subject

@aaronj3924 2 жыл бұрын

@Yoystan As always, your videos are great, a thought just occurred to me about a video that could be a what if, but I have no idea if there's anything Tolkien left behind, and that is: in Jackson's LOTR, towards the end, Frodo hints that the last pages of the book of Westmarche are for Sam. What, if anything, does Samwise add into his memoirs? Just super curious. Thanks!

@D4rkn3ss2000 2 жыл бұрын

Man... The First Age was such a mess...

@andy420bb 2 жыл бұрын

Can't wait until Elven settlements of the Second Age!

@thekiatty6953 2 жыл бұрын

But shall I leave my friends alone, Hidden in my twilight hall? Though the world is lost in fire, Surely there is a way to turn it back, To the old days of bliss and cheerful laughter. We're lost in barren lands, Caught in the running flames ALONE!

@roberthofmann8403 2 жыл бұрын

Good vid.

@LordTelperion 2 жыл бұрын

All hail Barad Eithel, capital of Hithlum, bulwark of the Noldor, and seat of the High Kings!

@annaroselarsen4218 2 жыл бұрын

Love this one!

@davidlubkowski7175 2 жыл бұрын

Still breaks my heart how much has sunk :( Even the great Mirkwood Forest is a mere small forest compared to what once was...

@hazbojangles2681 2 жыл бұрын

Very relaxing music

@agentwashington2946 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing

@Andhorhal 2 жыл бұрын

awesome!

@eacalvert 2 жыл бұрын

Gah YT didn't notify me last week. Just now got a chance to go back and look

@hydeman78 7 ай бұрын

Personally I wish I could have strolled along the shores of turion and through the great ancient forests of the first age and seen the ents and ent wives, then ventured to gondolin.

@milansikidjo 2 жыл бұрын

Did you start first, from all the chanels about Tolkien, I have found you first, one and a half year ago ?

@yodaslovetoy 2 жыл бұрын

Where's the best restaurants?

@MenoftheWest 2 жыл бұрын

I would recommend the High Tower café in Gondolin, just don't be up there when you see a red light come over the horizon 😬

@pianogang2273 2 жыл бұрын

@@MenoftheWest Lol! : )

@yodaslovetoy 2 жыл бұрын

@@MenoftheWest Food.... Good Coffee... Good Service.... Good Was a really nice place to visit, friendly people and then the balrogs and orcs showed up and ruined the ambiance 1/5 will not visit again

@goodputin4324 2 жыл бұрын

I'd suggest the Secret Cafe in Nargothrond. Their Elvish breakfast is the best as the Noldor cooks come all the way from Tirion!

@tov5392 2 жыл бұрын

Okay but is anybody gonna talk about how Finrod (may he live forever in Aman) stole the petty dwarves' caves??

@sweeperboy 2 жыл бұрын

I think this wasn't covered clearly enough here. The Petty Dwarves in Nulukkizdîn (the Caves of Narog) were hunted largely by the Sindar and dwindled over time to almost nothing. When Finrod was told about the caves by Elu Thingol, he came there and intended to move there. The Petty Dwarves didn't actually resist them but actually initially assisted them in the first round of construction. Then Mîm, their chieftain, tried unsuccessfuly to murder Finrod in his sleep and he and the rest of the Petty Dwarves were expelled.

@thesmuli83 2 жыл бұрын

It would be great to visit the Gondolin

@grandmasteryoda5241 2 жыл бұрын

Could you do Settlements of Men in the first age and Settlements of Orcs (all ages)

@amberceline7395 2 жыл бұрын

I wish we could see elven cities on the big screen

@rc59191 2 жыл бұрын

Hope you do a video on the lord of the rings the 3rd age game for the playstation 2. Still go back and play it so I can explore Helms Deep and the forests of Eregion.

@axeltavarez1367 Жыл бұрын

I have a question. Would the slain telerie really not have been able to return to their homes well before the return of the exiles? Even if the elves that were slain during the first kinslaying were killed, wouldn't they eventually just respawn in the halls of Mandos and eventually return to their home to rebuild and resume their lives? They didn't do anything wrong in trying to defend themselves and they were attacked because they didn't want to offend the Valar by just giving over their ships to Feanor and his followers. So taking all that into account they wouldn't have to wait long to be allowed to return.

@mfschris6174 2 жыл бұрын

i love the story of Glorfindel

@mojosbigsticks 2 жыл бұрын

Si vanwa na, Romello vanwa Valimar!

@TeRenner123 2 жыл бұрын

An subnautica like game would be so intressting in an Lotr Setting

@pinoysilentrider3621 Жыл бұрын

I hope they make a Great Movie for this LOTR Silmarillion with many chapters! 😍😍😍

@silviangc8486 2 жыл бұрын

Would Formenos be considered an Elven settlement in Valinor?

@jamieparslow-williams7567 2 жыл бұрын

I know that the battle for Morgoth was in the north, so why did so much of the land have to be claimed by the sea?

@pianogang2273 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe for a possible escape to the West if all fell to Morgoth? Good question! : )

@yodaslovetoy 2 жыл бұрын

It got rektd After the war of wrath, there wasn't much left. Remember, it happened over a number of year with the most powerful armies ever seen in Middle earth

@goodputin4324 2 жыл бұрын

Because the land of Beleriand was tainted with Morgoth's Evil so it had to be completely cleansed hence the drowning by the Sea

@jamieparslow-williams7567 2 жыл бұрын

@@goodputin4324 It was recently discussed that the whole of middle earth was tainted with Morgoth's evil, but I suppose the main wars/conflicts that were over the Silmarils occurred in Beleriand.

@thekiatty6953 2 жыл бұрын

I thought it was because the War of Wrath involved all the Gods and powers of First Age elves (including the ones fresh from Valinor) vs Morgoth, Sauron, balrogs and dragons. The Earth literally could not take the pounding

@matejtoman710 2 жыл бұрын

New idea for What if? - What if The balrog of Moria took the ring?

@paulsteinhauser434 2 жыл бұрын

The Elves are represented as the Angels in Middle-Earth as said by Tolkien.

@rottenpoet6675 2 жыл бұрын

Just imagine you could go dive in the seas and explore the sunken cities

@darknessoftruth9314 2 жыл бұрын

love the video but what of the Avari who stayed in Cuivenion. Did they still dwell their or did they eventually move west

@MenoftheWest 2 жыл бұрын

Great question, I imagine that if they remained there during the Years of the Trees, they continued to dwell there during the First Age, likely allying with nearby Men and Dwarves of that land.

@darknessoftruth9314 2 жыл бұрын

@@MenoftheWest good to know but another question that I have is what became of Cuivenion and the Sea of Helcar post first age.

@darknessoftruth9314 2 жыл бұрын

@@Enerdhil No, Cuivenion was a bay area at the Sea of Helcar. The Sea was formed when Melkor destroyed the northern lamp.

@darknessoftruth9314 2 жыл бұрын

It's fate beyond the first age is not known to me

@thethirdrichard7787 2 жыл бұрын

I believe it was said a lot of the avari became orca due to Morgoth's torture and treachery.

@patriotx3425 2 жыл бұрын

Can we get an opinion on the recent statements and controversy involving the Tolkien Society

@timetraveller6643 2 жыл бұрын

TOPIC REQUEST: Sam was the only character to bear the ring and voluntarily give it up. How powerful is Sam? What if Sam had claimed the Ring at Cirrith Ungal? Could he have thrown it into Mount Doom? Would he have found his way, unlooked for, back to The Shire and defeated Saruman?

@sweeperboy 2 жыл бұрын

Well, Sam only had the Ring for a few hours. Frodo also potentially offered the Ring to Gandalf after a few minutes of having it and Galadriel somewhat after this. I think this is less about their power and more about how long the Ring had to embed itself in the bearer's psyche.

@ladyalaina42 2 жыл бұрын

I have a question about elven interaction after death. Being immortal I assume once they have been released from the Halls of Mandros do they simply return to their past lives and families and carry on as before their physical death?

@sweeperboy 2 жыл бұрын

They can do, I believe their memories are left intact. The main person referenced in this way is Finrod, who after dying in Middle Earth, was reincarnated in Valinor and stayed there with his original sweetheart who did not travel with him to Middle Earth originally.

@user-vd1bc7sv7d 2 жыл бұрын

Am I mistaken or did you guys used to be called “history of middle earth”. I haven’t really watched a lot of middle earth videos in a while and I remember being a channel by that name but I don’t see them around anymore

@keithcole8536 2 жыл бұрын

Can we get the parents of the major characters from this franchise

@lesromanchuk1293 2 жыл бұрын

I thought the seven gates protecting Gondolin were worthy a mention

@virien13 2 жыл бұрын

❤👍

@AdventuringJD 2 жыл бұрын

So... Anybody else curious what would have happened to Mithrandir if he got stabbed by a morgul blade? Would he become a wealth like mortals? Or would it have hurt him more in soul than it did Frodo?

@sethmiller2534 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry for taking so long, Yoystan. Some of these ads are awfully long

@bigshoga 2 жыл бұрын

Here first.

@pianogang2273 2 жыл бұрын

What's your guys' favourite Tolkien Book? : )

@MenoftheWest 2 жыл бұрын

Depends on my mood to be honest! They all are just so good!

@pianogang2273 2 жыл бұрын

@@MenoftheWest Yeah! I like The Book of Lost Tales I and II, but I really love the Hobbit! :D

@rileygilmartin9919 2 жыл бұрын

The Fall of Ethilian Ethillian, O essence of elves, Why are your once white walls now blackened; And the great bridge now cloven and fragmented? Your ornate gate twisted and broken? Where is Gorondath, your high king? I no longer see his star shining in the night, For it faded into the twilight. Your great white halls are blood-stained and overgrown. Your ancient banners are rent and burned. And harken the silence, for I hear no more mirth or rapture. Where is the great host of warriors as innumerable as the stars? A shadow resides over you now. A great obscured evil whose flames devour the light. Even now, your vision has dissolved from awareness. For no one remains who still honors your previous grandeur; For nameless darkness lingers in your halls. By Riley. J.G

@darksageasura5805 2 жыл бұрын

The world was fair in Durin's day.

@RoryBtn 2 жыл бұрын

I came I saw I clicked

@pianogang2273 2 жыл бұрын

Second! : )

@anasqai Жыл бұрын

So they express me as "Valerian(A Tree Species) an Elf", so Beleriand is like Valerian, where is Beleriand? The Map nicely like that Looks Special, if they Plot to Damage this Country, then telling of War in Beleriand is for?