Kinda funny how the Witch King created the means for his own downfall by sending the spirits to possess the corpses.

@@mattnar3865 his own magic was the cause of his defeat

oh rly i thought it was just wamon power ;(

@@onetwothreefourfive12345 In the movie sure but the books have so much more detail

In the movie, merry stabs him in the leg just like the book. There is even some VFXto suggest the witchking’s ward is disrupted. The movies did a pretty good job. Keep in mind this wasn’t exactly spelled out in the books either.

It shouldn't matter whether he went into his servitude willingly....at least mechanically. The ring should take him to the same place. It's more likely that Sauron simply divested power into the Witch King raising him slightly above the others for whatever reason (high test scores? can do spirit? or perhaps your hypothesis) especially since we actually see him do this to the Witch King at one point. (as the video explains) Morgoth would impart the power of his being into his servants, diminishing himself (perhaps permanently) and Sauron does something similar with the ring. There is no reason to believe this wasn't the case. It was also probably the safest example of this phenomenon since the Ring Wraiths were slaves by a craft that could not be undone by any magic existing in the world (save where it was forged, or perhaps Tom Bombadil) and probably not technically capable of treachery. My point is that the ring shouldn't bestow anything special on someone that wants to be a slave, rather that would be something that Sauron would have to do himself. It's unlikely Sauron crafted the ring with the capability of it bestowing special powers (other than making wraiths) on non-Sauron entities. The ring isn't a free energy source, it's a magical technology that leverages Saurons spirit that has been given to the ring towards certain purposes. Sauron isn't likely to create a magical free powers device that is based off whether you want to be slave. Sauron is pretty selfish about his power and likely bestows as little power as he has to for his will to be accomplished, and likely intentionally. Or not.

I don't mean to try to say that you aren't entitled to your own opinion of the mechanics of things that are left somewhat ambiguous in the writing. Only that there isn't any evidence for this theory. It seems to me that just as men are different from each other, that wraiths of men would be different from each other, and that he might impart more power into one to act with more agency. If Putin, Trump, Marcon, and Merkel were made into wraiths........Sauron is going to make Putin the Witch King for obvious reasons. Merkel will spend a thousand years trying to threaten Gondor into more open orc immigration policies, Trump is going to try to open Orc hotels, but Putin could be sent out into the wilderness and told to build an army to destroy Arnor and in a few hundred years it will burn to the ground. It doesn't require any other explanation involving the internal workings of a mind where if someone is more willing then the others to become a slave they automatically gain special powers. This sort of thing gives too much credence to Sauron giving a shit about the wherefores and whyfores of his slaves motivations. Slaves are just tools and it matters not why they are slaves since the power of the ring over the Wraiths is unbreakable by any magic of any creature not greater than Sauron of which there are none remaining in the world. They are all equally loyal, all equally beholden to his will. There cannot be a traitor ring wraith or one that is more loyal than another.

What game is the one showed in several moments?

@@JoaquimParis I believe it is "Shadow of Mordor" or "Lord of the Rings Online"

@@JoaquimParisLotRO. One of the last places I went to before I quit playing was Weathertop. Also there were some still from the recent Shadow of Mordor games.

Thanks Bacinta, I'm really glad to hear it, it means a lot to me! =)

Aww

*********Hey can you do an episode on the reason you speculate that the Nazgul approached Weathertop under black robes? If they had the ability to be invisible (and cause the people who they passed by to feel uneasy and fear) why would they not confront Frodo and them while being invisible?! You'd think that would be their best opportunity to recover "The One Ring"...**********

Play shadow of war and shadow of mordor

He's not dead, he still exist in spiritual world

@@hossenfeffer based on nothing.

@@iarawae9griefingchannel45 The Witch King was something more than a spirit trapped in the physical world (like an Elf Fea that chooses not to return to the Halls of Mandos) but a spirit weaponized by the power of the one ring (which was a weapon that contained elements of Sauron's spirit) The souls of men are not given the choice to remain in the world after death but beyond that their fate is unknown. Thus the only thing binding the Nazgul to the physical world was the power of the one ring. Although the Witch King's spirit may have endured after the blows of Eowyn and Merry his soul was surely unbound to the world with the breaking of the one ring. If by spirit world you mean the inbetween place in which Wraiths seems to exist, the world that Frodo seems to be able to observe while wearing the one-ring (in the movie) then that is probably incorrect. If by spirit world you mean wherever the doom of men leads....then yes. It may be an assumption that the spirits of evil men actually go somewhere rather than cease to exist, it's not unlikely that they are stored somewhere since they may be brought back to the physical world during the Dagor Dagorlath. There is some uncertainty about this however. The Nazgul were servants of Sauron and not Morgoth, and I don't remember the Dagor Dagorlath prophecy involving bringing all the minions of all the higher servants of Morgoth. Rather it may just be the servants of Morgoth that were around during the First Age. Additionally since not even the Vallar know where the souls of men go, it may be that Morgoth has no capability to resurrect them; unless he learns of this during his stay in the void. This is more complicated than I imagined when I first started writing this 10 minutes ago.' But almost certainly where they go, no one but Illuvatar has knowledge of (prior to the Dagor Dagorlath). If the Nazgul were able to persist after the destruction of the Ring then Tolkien might have had something to to write his Lord of the Rings sequel about. Alas he got 16 pages into it and decided there was nothing to write about except for various cults that might arise and that's pretty boring compared to Wizards and gods and returning Kings. That he had nothing interesting to right about is pretty much proof that the Nazgul didn't survive.

@@Dadecorban If I remember correctly, after the destruction of the one ring Sauron became just a "shadow" because he lost his power, if the ringwraiths are linked to him they should've become "powerless shadows" as well.

​@@iarawae9griefingchannel45 It does not logically follow that what happens to Sauron, happens to the Wraiths. They are different creatures with different fates. Sauron was a Maiar spirit who even after the destruction of the ring will endure as far as we are concerned, forever (though now impotently) The power of the 9 rings given to the wraiths and held in repository by Sauron was the power to preserve (Tolkien Letter 131) and the power of the one ring to enslave the users of all the rings of power. The 9 men enslaved by the one ring, were preserved by their 9 rings and further preserved by the power of the one ring. Their lives were preserved in form that is indicative of both Morgoth and Sauron and the limitation of their power; mockery and counterfeit (Letter 153) . Just as a Hobbit will fade into a wraith, a form life preserved from true death, (LOTR) for at least a time (a long time), when possessed of the one ring, and then almost immediately loses that preserving affect when dispossessed of the ring, resuming the Doom of Men (or Hobbits), Wraiths will lose the preserving affect of the rings when the one ring is destroyed, and dispossessed of the other rings of power, and their fate, if not immediately, will necessarily be that of all other spirits of men; a doom beyond the world of time (Letter 153) of which only Illuvatar is aware. (please forgive by irreverent use of comma and use of semi colon) Suffice it to say that Sauron has no power to give immortality to the spirits of men, to linger within Arda forver (Akalabeth), anymore than Morgoth did, or Manwe does, or any of the deities and demigods. This power rests only with Eru Ilavatar. (even if the ring had fallen to the bottom of the ocean and persisted until the ending of the world, the Nazgul would have long since died and faced their doom as preservation, or specifically resistance to fading is not forever, it is merely a delay)

Dude, just keep making these quality videos. You rock.

Your work is outstanding! Do not worry about time taken. This is theater quality and that does not happen over night. Thank you for this beautiful work.

Great video! The timeline was very helpful, as was the map. Well put together and worth the wait.

Cheers Alex! :)

Thanks I van, I appreciate it!

Possibly the subject of the Amazon series, said to be spanning multiple seasons

That would be sick, bit like the story of the game rise of the witch king

As difficult to make as it would be, I’d like the see a movie adaptation of the silmarillion

@@alberthogg49 that's not difficult. It's impossible

There is a strategy game called Middle Earth the Rise of the Witch King, and it solely focuses on the Witch Kings campaign of Arnor. You should give it a try

Ye, I think he's one of the coolest villians in Middle-Earth, I like the mystery surrounding him and his powers! I was considering making a video speculating on the other Nazgul and their possible origins, will see if I can dig anything up!

Moregasm the Powerful maybe look up the men of the wests vid on it he does a great vid on the subject and on many many many other lotr subjects.

GeekZone would also be great to see a colab between you and the "men of the west" that would be so amazing...

I've always wonder why Kuhmal The Easterling was The Only Nazgul ever named? Considering he was The Lieutenant of The Witch King of Angmar

Khamûl not Kuhmal.

Well its been a year and no explosion yet.

@@3ksomejerk the show hasn't released

When the fuck are they releasing the show! I can’t wait!

You predicted?

forget LOTR in these times, its too racist. The only monster we would get would be a woke shitbag. Be glad the peter jackson movies came out when they did cos there is no way they would be allowed nowadays. At the very least sauron would suddenly grow orange hair

Pride and arrogance made him ignore the hobbit

In the end the strong were defeated by the women, the small, the wounded, and the humble 🙏

Certainly, would've been nice to have seen the witch king cast his "spell of ruin" when Grond was at the gates of Minas Tirith. It would've added to how Grond the wolf's head of Mordor was able to smash down the gate within only 4 strikes.

Mildly disagree. The power of evil in JRR worlds comes not from what is explicitly shown but from the horror that is hinted.

@@josemanuelcaballero1162 This is true. I live in Australia and think the same about our Spiders!

I've been on a Homer jag for about a year. Achilles bothered the hell out of me and I ended up at a literature site where the Professor gave me this analysis that cleared me up. Achilles' meeting with Hector's father, when King Priam comes alone and unarmed to beg Achilles for his son's body ... is the center and whole point of the Illiad. Power at war, of which Achilles is the epitome, is meaningless against the power of love and humility and the courage it takes for both. Achilles wrath faded. He treated King Priam as an honored guest, had the body cleansed and honorably prepared and allowed the King to return with his son to Troy; the Greeks also held off any further attacks until all the most reverent rituals had been conducted by the Trojans for their beloved Prince Hector's body.

Did you actually confront him at minas tirith or was that scene just added into the film because it seemed cool? The book doesnt really have the two of you mixing it up there

Ahh cmon Teh White, worst thing would be if he dirted your white clothes. Staff........well I hope elves can make new one.

@@dynjarren5454 yeah, i don't think that scene was in the books. It was still cool though.

@@MrCouchmen well, they got dirty anyway though.

Sauron breaks Gandalfs staff at Dol Guldur; Saruman takes Gandalfs (Radegasts) staff at Orthanc; Gandalf the White breaks Sarumans staff at Orthanc; Witch King breaks Gandalf the White's staff at Minas Tirith. Merry and Eowyn break Witchking of Angmar at Pelenor Fields! Eowyn & Merry are OP.

That was him giving Frodo the chance to surrender the ring willingly. But when he pulled away is when it pissed off the Witch King and he stabbed him. lol

Well of course. Their whole job was to get the ring. the blade was supposed to turn him.

Cheers Pedro, I appreciate it buddy! :)

Haha love it. The Old memes are always the dankist that's for sure.

Lol ikr

More like 'Till i took a sword to the face'.

The thing is he doesn't have a knee or a face, he's just pair of glowing eyes so it's a bit stupid he could be killed in any way in standard battle. Always thought it was lame to kill such a cool and powerful character that way.

Razer hope Merry toke his sword in the witch Kings knee and his sword was a magical sword so Eowyl could kill the witch king

Joe Jessup

Cheer Joe! To be honest I think retaining an element of mystery helps keep a plot alive, as people keep speculating and trying to piece things together rather than having everything established already! :)

Neat...does the witch kings helmet still have a hole in the back of it from Eowyns sword? Lol

Indeed, though his pride at times swayed his judgement

You're welcome Szumy, hope it was relaxing! ;)

Cheers Stern, I'll keep that in mind! :)

Agreed! More = Better so far as I am concerned :)

Cheers Luke! It has been a long time coming, he's such an awesome character I should have covered him sooner! :)

GeekZone Ikr! But it is good that you took your time with this awesome topic! :)

Thanks Scott! I might actually be covering some of the great dragons of Middle-Earth in my next few videos, it sounds like an awesome idea!

Thanks AJ, I appreciate it mate, quite a compliment! :)

Cheers! :)

Cheers Brim, glad you enjoyed it buddy! =)

Cheers mate! :)

Thanks Paul!

Cheers Kiwi, sounds likes an awesome idea! I was actually considering covering the Beornings soon!

GeekZone That be awesome! I look forward to seeing it! Keep it up. This channel is awesome, it is helping expand my knowledge of Tolkien's universe tenfold!

I'm working on it! :)

You're welcome buddy! :)

Just never stop making videos

Cheers Jacen! :)

GeekZone Cheers :)

Thanks Felix! :)

Thank you! :)

@@GeekZoneMT be fun to me M he

Interior design in Minas Morgul, making sure the place looks badass

GeekZone Hahaha. You are probably at least in part not wrong. That... and maybe he was secretly into crocheting or knitting when the other evil beings weren’t looking. Maybe that is how it all started for him. He was a prince who liked to make beautiful sweaters. Then he got made fun of by everyone in the king’s court, and Sauron walked up to him and said: “naw, dude. Those sweaters are cool. Don’t listen to them. Here. Have this ring. It goes with your sweater.” XD

Ping-pong he played a lot of ping-pong . (just picture that in your head , the witch king playing ping-pong ! :)

He was the lead singer in a band called the Shriekers, with Khamul on guitar and Dwar on drums.

He collects maces, they get a tiny bit bigger every time

ishai picus Hey it's from the LOTR online game