The India Pattern Brown Bess and the HEIC F-Pattern Musket: Firepower

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Жыл бұрын

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@timothym2198
@timothym2198 Жыл бұрын
There is so little information out there on the P39. Thank you, Rob, for filling in this missing link in the history of British military arms.
@peteslinn482
@peteslinn482 Жыл бұрын
If you're interested, I can highly recommend the recent book "British Ordnance Muskets of the 1830s and 1840s: George Lovell's Legacy" by Adrian Roads. Covers all these in great detail!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Most welcome!
@timothym2198
@timothym2198 Жыл бұрын
@@peteslinn482 thank you kindly, sir!
@sirfox950
@sirfox950 Жыл бұрын
No McKenzie intro? What happened to him, did the sergeant finally kill him??? 😢
@robertsmith4681
@robertsmith4681 Жыл бұрын
He got tendinitis from peeling all those potatoes so he gets to spend a day in the infirmary ...
@pacman1386
@pacman1386 Жыл бұрын
Then back to peeling potatoes!
@robertsmith4681
@robertsmith4681 Жыл бұрын
@@pacman1386 Doc's a good guy, he got poor Pvt McKenzie away from that mean Sgt, at least for the day ...
@pacman1386
@pacman1386 Жыл бұрын
@@robertsmith4681 but the cook's evil!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
MacKenzie typically comes out for Kit and Drill videos....
@slowhand1198
@slowhand1198 Жыл бұрын
Yet another example of your quality work. Replete with detail, but not pedantic, well balanced with live example and use of period illustrations as well as current references. Thank you again!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Very Kind! Thank you.
@The_Honourable_Company
@The_Honourable_Company Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: When the queen had first chartered the EIC in the year of 1600, it was named the "Governor and merchants from London trading into the east indies" After the revolution of 1689, the company had to be reorganised effectively as the revolt had caused sever economic problems for the shareholders. When all the companies had united by 1708, it had been renamed to the 'Valiant Company', but had formed the United East India company by 1709, and was then officially (from 1709 to its end by 1873) to the Honourable East India Company Source: Sahib, the British soldier in India
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Lot's of History there for sure!
@The_Honourable_Company
@The_Honourable_Company Жыл бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders although, what was the motivation for the company to be renamed to the Honourable east India company?
@wizardapprenticeIV
@wizardapprenticeIV Жыл бұрын
Green shirt BritishMuzzleLoaders has returned. Nature is healing.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Haha!
@kennethhummel4409
@kennethhummel4409 Жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation! It also explains why one of my 1853 enfields is a.75 bore and has a simple notch type rear sight. The old gal must be a victory of spare parts and recycling. Its an enfield made for the EIC (rampant lion) one of 3 that I’ve bought over the years. The other 2 were normal second patterns also made for the EIC.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a parts gun.
@diktatoralexander88
@diktatoralexander88 Жыл бұрын
Or it was made for the Indians, as a result of the Indian Mutinity. After that happened, the British decided that all weapons made for the Indians would be smoothbore.
@HarryFlashmanVC
@HarryFlashmanVC Жыл бұрын
Brilliant stuff as always, Rob! Thanks for your hard work and its a pleasure to support you even through a disgraceful business like Patreon.
@sirfox950
@sirfox950 Жыл бұрын
Sir Harry Flashman!!! Is it you???
@HarryFlashmanVC
@HarryFlashmanVC Жыл бұрын
@@sirfox950 live from Gadamak Lodge, Leicestershire!
@sirfox950
@sirfox950 Жыл бұрын
@@HarryFlashmanVC haha! Legend!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
It's most appreciated, with thanks.
@earlshaner4441
@earlshaner4441 Жыл бұрын
Good afternoon from Syracuse NY USA brother thank you for sharing history of the British Army
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@earlshaner4441
@earlshaner4441 Жыл бұрын
Yes my friend cheers from the United States of America
@earlshaner4441
@earlshaner4441 Жыл бұрын
I love your CHRISTMAS special video with the wife interpretation while you were making the video my friend and I was laughing very hard when that happened my friend
@backrowbrighton
@backrowbrighton Жыл бұрын
Rob, thank you so much for this video. I have always had this gap in my knowledge regarding the transition from the flintlock to the percussion system in the British Army. This fills it up and then some. Also I must congratulate you on the images used to illustrate the subject, all relevant. Other content creators should take note.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Cheers!
@polymathart
@polymathart Жыл бұрын
I need an hour long asmr video of you just marching and handling your firearms. Can’t get enough of it.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Haha!
@sandmanhh67
@sandmanhh67 Жыл бұрын
I have originals of both of these in my collection. Its heaven to see examples taken for a stroll around your amazingly beautiful wilderness range. Cheers Rob n keep on firing!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@Squarecycle_
@Squarecycle_ 25 күн бұрын
What a great video. I just got my India pattern brown bess, and I was digging for information but not until I discovered this video and all my questions has been answered. Thank you.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 25 күн бұрын
There is more Bess content on the Channel, if you are interested, including a Bess Introduction video..
@Squarecycle_
@Squarecycle_ 25 күн бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders Yes, I am watching them and I am subscribed. Great content 👍👍
@Everythingblackpowder
@Everythingblackpowder Жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation as usual. Thanks, Rob.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@JamesLaserpimpWalsh
@JamesLaserpimpWalsh Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Love your presentation by the way.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@SKNAZIR-sx1th
@SKNAZIR-sx1th Жыл бұрын
I got your new video after a long time. Thank you very much
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@niklasaskham4208
@niklasaskham4208 Жыл бұрын
Another excellent presentation. Thanks Rob
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Most welcome! Cheers.
@HicksPasha1883
@HicksPasha1883 Жыл бұрын
Great presentation rob as usual!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jrkat
@jrkat Жыл бұрын
Your demonstrations are fantastic, thanks 😊
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@anselmdanker9519
@anselmdanker9519 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for an informative and insightful presentation.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Most welcome!
@benrobertson7855
@benrobertson7855 Жыл бұрын
Always enjoyable and educational.many thanks from nz,
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@timblack6422
@timblack6422 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Rob!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Most welcome!
@RichardGoth
@RichardGoth Жыл бұрын
Great video... so much info on this forgotten transitional phase
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@bc30cal99
@bc30cal99 Жыл бұрын
Greetings from the sunny south Okanagan sir, thanks for another well produced and educational video. Have a great spring out west and do try to stay cool.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Will do! Cheers!
@charlesperry5890
@charlesperry5890 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding video covering the transition from Flintlock to Percussion.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear you enjoyed it!
@GeoffreyBronson
@GeoffreyBronson 10 ай бұрын
You've earned a subscriber sir. Entertaining, educational and phwoar! Look at that scenery! I must book a holiday to Canada sometime soon.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 10 ай бұрын
Thank you kindly.
@kieronjones5460
@kieronjones5460 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ellyrion8173
@ellyrion8173 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@matthewrowe9903
@matthewrowe9903 Жыл бұрын
Must admit I was never into the older weapons until I found your vids dam good stuff sir
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@properjob2311
@properjob2311 Жыл бұрын
this channel is so informative
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@Achillesnic
@Achillesnic Жыл бұрын
Love to see new episodes from you, always so informative
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear! Thanks!
@snappers_antique_firearms
@snappers_antique_firearms Жыл бұрын
Another great video.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@viperscot1
@viperscot1 Жыл бұрын
Hazzar hazzar hazzar hazzar Another excellent informative quality content you dapper gent Now as a re enactor Indian pattern flint lock is what I mostly used , watching this I could smell and taste the powder brought back epic times thank you Bestest from Scotland
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@waynemcauliffe-fv5yf
@waynemcauliffe-fv5yf Жыл бұрын
Thanks again mate
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@GunDoc39402
@GunDoc39402 Жыл бұрын
An excellent video indeed. Huzzah!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@user-sp4gy7ko5l
@user-sp4gy7ko5l 4 ай бұрын
Glorious stache sir.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 4 ай бұрын
Haha! Cheers!
@mrmeowmeow710
@mrmeowmeow710 Жыл бұрын
From a history nut 1 great gem of a video with my 2 big toes 4 thumbs up
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Haha! Glad to hear!
@johnfisk811
@johnfisk811 Жыл бұрын
Great video Rob. Nice to see the F Type HEIC musket barking. I so miss mine even if it went to a good home. Thank you. FWIW I found the rear sight very useful. If the front sight just appears in the little slot then it is set for 50 yards. If it appears above the slot then 100 yards and if level with the horns then about 140 yards. I used 8 grams of Vectan Musket Powder. I suspect that, if one aimed just above a notional shako on a man then the level with horn setting might just do for 200 yards.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
I haven't had a real chance to shoot it out to that range yet, but it seems that 200 yds was an historical (if on the far end of range) distance mentioned. Hope all is well!
@StevenMMan
@StevenMMan Жыл бұрын
Well I have gone and done it, and signed up Mountain man
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@ENIGMAXII2112
@ENIGMAXII2112 7 ай бұрын
Very intersting Mr. Rob to have the flint lock AND the percussion musket in a back to back comparison. I see, so there is not much of a difference in landed shots on the paper between the two. So, in taking my flintlock to the range next morning. I shall NOT be too sore in the camparsion that I just witnessed. Thank you Sir.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 7 ай бұрын
Hope your shoot went well!
@bigsarge2085
@bigsarge2085 Жыл бұрын
Awesome.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@itsapittie
@itsapittie Жыл бұрын
That was fun and interesting. TBH, I didn't expect a significant change in firepower but there's no substitute for actually doing the work to find out.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@turtlewolfpack6061
@turtlewolfpack6061 Жыл бұрын
I do like the look of the New Land Pattern!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Certainly a transition piece. Cheers!
@saltycastform2932
@saltycastform2932 Жыл бұрын
He’s back!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Yes.
@AshmithBhat
@AshmithBhat 5 ай бұрын
As a true Indian, When I heard the your 1857, My brain was screaming "Vande Mataram" BTW Happy Republic day for all Indians! सत्यमेव जयते ||
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 ай бұрын
Sure.
@LittleRabbit1138
@LittleRabbit1138 Жыл бұрын
I'm loving your mixed battle dress uniform!!! Just dont let the Sergeant catch you
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Haha!
@timothydurkan
@timothydurkan Жыл бұрын
I like this channel.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ldmitruk
@ldmitruk Жыл бұрын
Great video, as always. I would another benefit of the percussion cap is less smoke and sparks in a persons face when firing. I was surprised at how easy the fired cap was removed before loading the next round. I would interested in seeing how much of a difference the loading time would be when a bayonet is mounted on the musket.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Maybe for the follow up vid!
@Crazy_Talk96
@Crazy_Talk96 Жыл бұрын
Such a great looking rifle
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
There are no rifles in this video, though,... 😀
@1861James
@1861James Жыл бұрын
Thank you for giving the HEIC Pattern muskets some love, maybe a series on the Pattern A thru F with the subtle changes in design in the future?
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Perhaps,…. I only have the one HEIC arm,…. So maybe in the future.
@1861James
@1861James Жыл бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders you have a good many friends that I’m sure would assist 😊
@wagon9082
@wagon9082 Жыл бұрын
Good video
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
THanks!
@cmur078
@cmur078 5 ай бұрын
For bird shooting the percussion cap was a big thing, because it reduced the time between pulling the trigger and actually firing (though the best quality flintlocks were apparently comparable). Shooting a musket at a static target, or (in real war) one coming directly towards you, you wouldn't expect a huge advantage really.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 ай бұрын
Sure thing. Hence the preponderance of percussion sporting arms early on!
@ilfarmboy
@ilfarmboy Жыл бұрын
I got to fire a brown bess at 100 yards man it was heavy never had a chance to hit the target lol
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@vincetytler6175
@vincetytler6175 Жыл бұрын
Excellent
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Thanks, V!
@benoitgevry1482
@benoitgevry1482 Жыл бұрын
Great videos again, shooting is important but if you go for for hunting in winter and badley youy fall dawn in the snow or you walk in summer in raining days for 3 days, believe me fire cap will be the winner gun, thanks again.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
As mentioned in the video.... 😀
@user-jq5nw8vp1b
@user-jq5nw8vp1b 8 ай бұрын
Percussion was indeed a great leap, for the flintlock when fired multiple time can cause fouling on the mechanism that would lead to a misfire.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 8 ай бұрын
It was a step... the weapon wasn't any more destructive. Now,.. breechloading,.... that was a great leap...
@kenrobba5831
@kenrobba5831 Жыл бұрын
Now, that’s WHAT I call a true ASSAULT WEAPON with affixed bayonet and trained line !!!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Haha!
@kenrobba5831
@kenrobba5831 Жыл бұрын
ThankX, I thought it worth a ,”ha!”
@randomgames2824
@randomgames2824 Жыл бұрын
Hi there, do you have any information on how to fold a Victorian great coat. I can't find anything about how to fold them, great content, keep it up.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
There are dimensions in the P71 Fitting Instructions (found online) but the actual folding details are hard to come by... There is a thread on the "British Army and Navy 1888-1914" FB page.
@salaminshikiya9351
@salaminshikiya9351 Жыл бұрын
A fantastic presentation about the arms that bridged the relatively less well-known period between flintlock smoothbores to rifled muskets. I'm curious though: As you've frequently dressed in uniforms contemporary to the weapons presented in the videos, would you acquire a uniform specifically from the years the percussion muskets saw active service? Actually, now that I think about it, the full dress trousers and shirt combination that you already have i think looks good enough for the period. And maybe the greatcoat in colder weather.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
I typically don’t use special clothing for this series except for specific circumstances. Clothing procurement is based on eventual need and scope of prospective usage…. At this point I don’t see going down the rabbit hole of the 1840s…
@caesar4880
@caesar4880 Жыл бұрын
You should do a video on some of the arms of the native Indian forces in service to the crown at the time. I hear there where a lt of odd things like smooth bore P-58 enfields and Martini-Henery rifles converted to only use shotgun ammunition.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
I have one HEIC arm,..... with no plans for another. I will do a stand alone video on that and when I do, I'll be including a potted history of the family of arms.
@ldmitruk
@ldmitruk Жыл бұрын
Hmm, is that Obadiah Hakeswill on sentry duty at 4:20?
@HarryFlashmanVC
@HarryFlashmanVC Жыл бұрын
Obviously... it says so in the Scriptures..so it does
@ceciljohnrhodes4987
@ceciljohnrhodes4987 Жыл бұрын
@@HarryFlashmanVC so true mother, true it is.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Haha!
@SafetyProMalta
@SafetyProMalta Жыл бұрын
Great content as usual Rob
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ditzydoo4378
@ditzydoo4378 Жыл бұрын
Firing a smoothbore with an under sized paper patch round ball is much akin to bowling. 0~o Sometimes you find the pins, and sometimes you find the gutter. >~
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Haha!
@chickenitza8
@chickenitza8 Жыл бұрын
This channel exposed me to a new fascination, keep up the great work my friend.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear!
@user-ub1im8nc7g
@user-ub1im8nc7g 9 ай бұрын
Greetings. Please tell us about the wood plating in East India Company Percussion Musket Pattern F? I bought one for restoration
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 9 ай бұрын
Made in the IK by the trade... European walnut?..... I'm away from my references...
@Mag_Aoidh
@Mag_Aoidh Жыл бұрын
Love my Bess and can compare it to my 1842 Springfield.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Sure can!
@robertsmith4681
@robertsmith4681 Жыл бұрын
I did not know they tinkered with percussion conversions of the Brown Bess, always assumed percussion was introduced with the Pattern 51.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Would say "tinkered"... wholesale adoption more like... :)
@GreenMosin93
@GreenMosin93 Жыл бұрын
I'd always wondered what the Brits used between the Brown Bess and the P51. Seems like a substantial gap that isn't talked about much.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, that the term "Brown Bess" was applied to both types of muskets, colloquially. Lots of historical references to calling percussion muskets "Bess"
@HarryFlashmanVC
@HarryFlashmanVC Жыл бұрын
Question: are fulminate caps better than flintlock in wet weather? Ive shot an Enfield in the West of Scotland in the pissing rain on many occasions and never had an issue with the cap system. Re issuing of cap guns over flint: 1st Opium War, fought in the notoriously humid in that part of the world, spring snd summer, (cap issue) versus the flints issued to the 44th in Elphy Bey's army in arid, cold Afghanistan? Was the Board of Ordinance that organised to ensure the caps went to the Chinese expedition? (Were the Crapauds using caps at this point? If not then perhaps the issue of caps to the Chinese Expedition was designed to either embarass... or keep up with? The Frenchies?) (General Sir Harry Flashman VC, is silent on this subject in his memoirs of both campaigns)
@AbananaPEEl
@AbananaPEEl Жыл бұрын
This is commonly cited as a benefit, and owning a percussion musket, I think it could be true. No exposed powder to get wet. However, i have never fired a flintlock, in the rain or otherwise to speak on that. And modern production caps, I don't believe, use fulminate, so perhaps fulminate could be more susceptible to wet than modern caps.
@myparceltape1169
@myparceltape1169 Жыл бұрын
I thought that I heard Rob saying the copper caps were less susceptible to damp. It was about 3/4 of the way through.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Percussion caps are indeed better in the wet/damp. Prolonged heavy exposure will eventually start to degrade things even with caps though...
@AdelaideRegiment
@AdelaideRegiment Жыл бұрын
Did you know that units of the 40th and 12th RoF were still armed with P1842 Muskets when they attacked the Eureka Stockade in Australia in December 1854!?
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Seeing as how percussion muskets were still very prevalent in various HM and Company Regiments during the Mutiny, no, I'm not surprised. 😀 The 78th Highlanders only had about 100(-) Enfields during the 1st Relief of Lucknow... can you guess what the remainder carried?
@jimmydesouza4375
@jimmydesouza4375 Жыл бұрын
The delay between trigger and firing seems much shorter for the cap and ball gun. I assume thatd increase practical accuracy.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Practical in battle?... not so much.
@matthewcharles5867
@matthewcharles5867 Жыл бұрын
You would also have to think that transport of caps around the different areas in the empire would take up a lot less space then transport of flints would.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Sure,... but you get many shots out of a flint... only one out of a cap...
@AbananaPEEl
@AbananaPEEl Жыл бұрын
Forgive me if a previous video has gone into greater detail about this. I just checked the bayonet section of your "India Pattern Brown Bess: Intro" but how does the bayonet of the earlier brown bess remain so stable? It's just a friction fit, and a lug with a maze-like channel. I wouldn't think that would be enough to keep it so secure.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
It doesn't. It will pull back and even come off if a "pull and twist" motion is applied from a "sticky" target.
@iangarrett741
@iangarrett741 Жыл бұрын
I know very little about this but, it appears to me, that a cap produces much less smoke and flame which would be useful during repeated firing.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Smoke was always a consideration in the era, for sure... in the context of the style of warfare of the era, the small differences between the percussion and flintlock muskets would have made little difference, though.
@mattcavanaugh6082
@mattcavanaugh6082 7 ай бұрын
A rib down the barrel of the India Pattern, as on a modern shotgun, might have improved aim. On the other hand, your shots wide right and wide left would've just hit the soldier standing next to your target, so why bother? As always, an illuminating and entertaining presentation!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 7 ай бұрын
I suppose that in the historical context, improvements in sighting just weren’t seen as being required…
@NomadShadow1
@NomadShadow1 Жыл бұрын
3:30 Nope, will not pardon the pun on the grounds that puns require no apology in the first place 😉
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Accepted, with thanks.
@VictorianChinese1860
@VictorianChinese1860 Жыл бұрын
I have always wondered how much percussion muskets did he British use compared to flintlocks during the First Opium War.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
A mix....
@joemorganeatmyshortschannel
@joemorganeatmyshortschannel Жыл бұрын
Teehee you said 🐓😆
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Yes,... See the Bess Intro video....
@iobey
@iobey 3 ай бұрын
In the Battle of Plattsburgh, 1814, Captain Matthey introduce his self-priming system to the Brown Bess. Unfortunately, he didn't fire any shoots in the battle. When I search his book for the system's design, the free online version only shows the section of the pan, missing the other parts of self-priming system. I hope someone can reproduce Matthey's self-priming system, and test whether or not his claim about reliable firing is true... Capt Matthey, Material Improvements on Fire Arms, Particularly the Common Musket. (Lymington, 1812).
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 3 ай бұрын
Interesting!
@iobey
@iobey 3 ай бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders I certainly hope someone in UK can upload the pictures of the design from the book in the British Library. Otherwise, it will be difficult for us to truly analyse Matthey's claim.
@tsoliot5913
@tsoliot5913 Жыл бұрын
Sharpe's musket, what hey?
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
?
@ilfarmboy
@ilfarmboy Жыл бұрын
wow didn't know the brown bess lasted that long as a British military arm / please help me out but didn't the Arthur Wellesy held the military back from getting improved weapons? / didn't the British sell a bunch of brown bess muskets to Mexico when they didn't need them anymore?
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
To a degree.. and yes, Mexico whole heartedly adopted the military system of the British Army.. weapons and tactics were closely followed, including the use of the Bess and the Baker.
@ilfarmboy
@ilfarmboy Жыл бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders thanks you are so well informed
@ducthman4737
@ducthman4737 Жыл бұрын
👍
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
THanks!
@mikehoare6093
@mikehoare6093 Жыл бұрын
Jacob´s rifle, when ?
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Not for quite some time…
@mikehoare6093
@mikehoare6093 Жыл бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders I nrecently nearly bought one ! looking amazing from the outside and with 5.000euros rather on the cheap side ! well, I learnt they´ve been bored out after the Indian "mutiny"..........................................................sigh !!!!!!!
@chpet1655
@chpet1655 Жыл бұрын
It sounds so odd to hear that a rifle had only TWO grooves !
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Indeed!
@The_Honourable_Company
@The_Honourable_Company Жыл бұрын
AUSPICIO REGIS AT SENATUS ANGLIAE
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Sure thing!
@keithmoore5306
@keithmoore5306 Жыл бұрын
Rob going by most of what i've heard on the east india company, honorable shouldn't be within 10 time zones of it!!!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Lot's of history there for sure.
@The_Honourable_Company
@The_Honourable_Company Жыл бұрын
That was the official name of the company Get over it
@The_Honourable_Company
@The_Honourable_Company Жыл бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders *Fake history
@keithmoore5306
@keithmoore5306 Жыл бұрын
@@The_Honourable_Company oh that time of the month? ever hear of sarcasm by chance??
@The_Honourable_Company
@The_Honourable_Company Жыл бұрын
@@keithmoore5306 Wdym mean by that time of the month? April has already finished bro
@tedarcher9120
@tedarcher9120 Жыл бұрын
Why did british never adopt a self-priming system?
@peteslinn482
@peteslinn482 Жыл бұрын
As a guess, it would be considered too fiddly and not "soldier-proof" :)
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Like the Maynard?
@tedarcher9120
@tedarcher9120 Жыл бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders or like 1740 Potzdam
@florinivan6907
@florinivan6907 Жыл бұрын
04:51 That private in the middle looks to be about 15/16 judging by his height.Probably newly enlisted at the time.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Just a small Gurkha that's all.
@BrettsCorner92
@BrettsCorner92 5 ай бұрын
I always wondered in England where those guns were made from. If someone wanted to buy a reproduction over there. Would that be a firearm Certificate or a shotgun Certificate? Since it's a smooth bore, I know. You can't shoot single round ball under a Shocking Certificate, they only can do buckshot.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 ай бұрын
Don't know about the rules, but both these examples were made by the trade in Birmingham, IIRC..
@salty4496
@salty4496 Жыл бұрын
:)
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
👍
@samiam619
@samiam619 Жыл бұрын
For the life of me, I can’t figure out what “HEIC F” stands for.
@samiam619
@samiam619 Жыл бұрын
Is it “Honorable East India Co.? When and by whom was EICo known as “honorable”?
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
You got it.
@TheRedneckPreppy
@TheRedneckPreppy Жыл бұрын
A certain popular television series? Sir, I will take no ill comments towards Lt. Col. Richard Sharpe and his methods! No, I kid. "Bite, pour, spit, tap" was nonsense.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Sharpe is a four letter word around here,....... 😀
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