The Mk I Lee-Metford: Firepower - The Spare Magazine

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11 ай бұрын

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@aaaaarrrrrggggghhhh
@aaaaarrrrrggggghhhh 11 ай бұрын
i love that after all these years, this dude is still just marching and playing with milsurp in the woods. legend
@FUBBA
@FUBBA 11 ай бұрын
Its called a hobby I hope everyone does something as based and enfield-pilled
@Industrialitis
@Industrialitis 11 ай бұрын
Great microphone too.
@brunowskijr
@brunowskijr 11 ай бұрын
​@@Industrialitisgreat video editing, scripting, and researching as well.
@sunnyjim1355
@sunnyjim1355 11 ай бұрын
also it's enabled him to maintain his manly calves.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
I'm a simple man....
@SamGray
@SamGray 11 ай бұрын
I love the idea that, at one point, .303 was considered to not have adequate stopping power.
@BrettBaker-uk4te
@BrettBaker-uk4te 11 ай бұрын
Well, there are a lot of stories about enemy fighters taking full mag dumps from early smokeless rifles.
@skepticalbadger
@skepticalbadger 11 ай бұрын
​@@BrettBaker-uk4tefull mag dumps? Can you cite any?
@BrettBaker-uk4te
@BrettBaker-uk4te 11 ай бұрын
@skepticalbadger Fought after taking multiple hits anyway. Phillipines we had troops who were hit multiple times before being taken out of the fight. At least one Moro took 3 hits from a Krag, and several hits from .45 revolver ammo before being butt stroked unconscious. Germans and French in Africa reported several times of individuals receiving multiple hits, and kept fighting long after an 11mm would have put them down. Basically dead men walking, they just hadn't quit yet. People tend to forget just how crappy a projectile RNFMJ really is.
@mrjockt
@mrjockt 11 ай бұрын
Fully jacketed small calibre high velocity projectile, unless it hits something vital like the heart or the spine, or bone to start it tumbling, it’ll just punch a small hole in and out which, unfortunately, isn’t likely to stop a charging, enraged man in his tracks.
@zoiders
@zoiders 11 ай бұрын
​@@mrjocktUtter rubbish.
@c1ph3rpunk
@c1ph3rpunk 11 ай бұрын
I would really like to see a history of the issue of the Mustache, the various Marks & sizes. To me it seems the Mustache, Mk I, Large, Twirled was the most widely issued for a decent period of time. It also seems the enlisted and officer ranks were issued different styles of them, perhaps to keep cost down?
@jon9021
@jon9021 11 ай бұрын
😂
@Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer
@Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer 11 ай бұрын
I like the style shown at 7:00, where the gentleman on the right has his arranged neatly on top of his head. 😉
@jimcook5707
@jimcook5707 11 ай бұрын
Of course it must be noted that officers were required to purchase their own moustache which is why you will often see some quite elaborate designs on show.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Bwahahahaha!
@hugodrax7111
@hugodrax7111 11 ай бұрын
Outside the gunroom door of the Army Target Shooting Club clubhouse at Bisley is a rifle rack with a gutter at the bottom. The rack holds up to 8 rifles muzzle down. I was told that a suitably kinked brass funnel neck would fit in the chamber to allow hot water to be poured down the bore to soften the fouling. Very niche, I know but I can't imagine there are any other bits of Lee-Metford specific furniture in the world.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
The bent funnel seems to a 20th Century thing.. no mention of such an accessory in the Victorian manuals.
@AdventuresofaManiac
@AdventuresofaManiac 11 ай бұрын
Every time you release a new video of this nature I wish there was a weekly TV show of it. You are fantastic sir and the quality of work you produce is outstanding!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
That is very kind of you to say. Thank you.
@mrjockt
@mrjockt 11 ай бұрын
The Lee-Metford rifle is still carried to this day by the Atholl Highlanders, the only private military unit in Britain, when on parade.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Indeed it is!
@mattfleming86
@mattfleming86 11 ай бұрын
While I do enjoy your black powder content, this is what makes my heart tingle.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Cheers!
@earlshaner4441
@earlshaner4441 11 ай бұрын
Outstanding British army and weapons history videos
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Cheers!
@RonOhio
@RonOhio 11 ай бұрын
It would be nice to see a comparison of charger loading vs half a dozen magazines. I wonder if any reliability issues might crop up with that many magazines. Looking forward to a rundown of .303 ammo thru the years.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Best website for that is sites.google.com/site/britmilammo/home
@anselmdanker9519
@anselmdanker9519 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for another interesting presentation on the British army 's long arms 😊
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Welcome!
@misterangel8486
@misterangel8486 11 ай бұрын
Love your dedication to the subject. 😎🍻👏
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@mikepette4422
@mikepette4422 11 ай бұрын
The examination of the valise is what really sets this channel apart from the rest. What a great video again well done Rob
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Cheers! Glad you enjoyed it!
@Jonj57
@Jonj57 11 ай бұрын
I can't get over how much excitement and passion you put into each video man, thanks for the videos brother!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
You are most welcome.
@NomadShadow1
@NomadShadow1 11 ай бұрын
Interesting. Having heard accounts of how fiddly the later Lee-Enfield magazines are I had assumed that was the reason the whole "issuing multiple magazines" thing had not been done. Fun and informative video Rob! 👍
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Cheers!
@daveb7128
@daveb7128 11 ай бұрын
You are a legend sir. Dont ever stop doing these excellent videos.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@ryanrosenblum2552
@ryanrosenblum2552 10 ай бұрын
The Atholl Highlanders the last private army in Europe is equipped with Lee-Metfords . There history is an interesting one which i believe is worth a video.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 10 ай бұрын
Indeed they are!
@johnfisk811
@johnfisk811 11 ай бұрын
Well done that man for finding a photograph of a cutaway black powder cartridge. I have seen one before.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Indeed.. very illustrative!
@TheGrenadier97
@TheGrenadier97 11 ай бұрын
Even with the imposed limitations, the use of magazines in this rifle really changes it to something far ahead in time. Imagine the volume of fire produced by men carrying only magazines in suitable pouches instead of packets and single cartridges. Great presentation as always!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@bigsarge2085
@bigsarge2085 11 ай бұрын
Always so informative, thank you!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Most welcome!
@johnfisk811
@johnfisk811 11 ай бұрын
Used in the 1904 Younghusband Expedition in Tibet to Lhasa. The Lee Metfords were found to sometimes freeze their bolts closed even without lubrication in the deepest depths of the Tibetan winter. But then engagements got as high as at 19,000 feet which undoubtedly was not within the specification or testing even though they were sent to Canada for winter testing.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
I'm sure that any weapon would experience issues is such extremes....
@myparceltape1169
@myparceltape1169 11 ай бұрын
Old soldiers often speak of 'taking their rifle to bed'. Obviously not in barracks.
@LPWRIZLEREXTRODIARE
@LPWRIZLEREXTRODIARE 10 ай бұрын
Is there proof these magazines were reissued for this expedition? What about spare Lee enfield mags?
@johnfisk811
@johnfisk811 10 ай бұрын
@@LPWRIZLEREXTRODIARE Lee Metfords we’re certainly used. As to spare magazines I do not know but the this was the Indian Army not the British Army.
@MeisMorphs
@MeisMorphs 11 ай бұрын
About damn time! I'd thought you'd never finish those potatoes...
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Haha!
@ogilkes1
@ogilkes1 11 ай бұрын
Really interesting. Thank you. I have always been puzzled about the refusal to make the concrptual lesp to msking the Lee a magazine fed gun.
@benholroyd5221
@benholroyd5221 11 ай бұрын
Would you like to prof rod before posting? Conceptual leap?
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@DJTheMetalheadMercenary
@DJTheMetalheadMercenary 11 ай бұрын
Good stuff brother! Beautiful Rifle.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@blanktm228
@blanktm228 11 ай бұрын
Wonderful as always. Thank you kindly once more!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Most welcome!
@kearnsey64
@kearnsey64 11 ай бұрын
Thank you sir! Another quality production loaded with information! 😊
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Cheers!
@earlshaner4441
@earlshaner4441 11 ай бұрын
Good morning from Syracuse NY brother across the Pond my friend
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Hello!
@earlshaner4441
@earlshaner4441 11 ай бұрын
Hi my friend
@slowhand1198
@slowhand1198 11 ай бұрын
Top rate production and information as usual. Thank you.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Cheers! Glad you enjoyed it!
@michaelamos4651
@michaelamos4651 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for another great video. Level of research is outstanding. Oh and very entertaining too
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Very kind!
@coljmuzz
@coljmuzz 10 ай бұрын
Your videos are so interesting. No interest in shooting myself but the historical background is fascinating. Great stuff. Keep it up!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 10 ай бұрын
Cheers
@davec3459
@davec3459 11 ай бұрын
Great video with interesting and informative content, thank you
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@niclbicl
@niclbicl 11 ай бұрын
Beautiful video as always!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@snappers_antique_firearms
@snappers_antique_firearms 11 ай бұрын
Love this video. Always found this a interesting topic.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Cheers!
@dcspooky6903
@dcspooky6903 10 ай бұрын
Another stunning video!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 10 ай бұрын
Cheers!
@keithagn
@keithagn 11 ай бұрын
Great video, and very well told. Thank you!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@timblack6422
@timblack6422 11 ай бұрын
I do so indeed love your videos, Rob!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@nothsa1107
@nothsa1107 11 ай бұрын
You are lving the dream. Always love the professionalism of your videos.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Cheers!
@SKNAZIR-sx1th
@SKNAZIR-sx1th 11 ай бұрын
I saw your video after a long time.I really enjoyed watching the video🎉🎉
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Great! Thank you!
@VuduVince
@VuduVince 11 ай бұрын
As always a damn fine video by a damn fine man! I love to bore my friends with videos like this. Because these are my jam!!!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Well done!
@sherwoodforester4666
@sherwoodforester4666 11 ай бұрын
An outstanding presentation!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Thank you kindly!
@pacman1386
@pacman1386 11 ай бұрын
Another fantastic video!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@hoplophobia7014
@hoplophobia7014 11 ай бұрын
Another fantastic and informative video
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Cheers!
@mrmeowmeow710
@mrmeowmeow710 11 ай бұрын
Outstanding history video loved it👍👍
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@donphilp7511
@donphilp7511 11 ай бұрын
Another detailed lovely explanation.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Hahaha!
@SafetyProMalta
@SafetyProMalta 11 ай бұрын
Great stuff Rob!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Cheers!
@richardbass3325
@richardbass3325 11 ай бұрын
I love this channel, you really bring the weapons and the era to life like no one else does. It really provides a flavour of what it must have been like to use these weapons in their heyday. Keep them coming 😊
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Cheers!
@Military_Outposts
@Military_Outposts 11 ай бұрын
gent & scholar..... appreciate your videos immensely🙂🙂🙂
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@wagon9082
@wagon9082 11 ай бұрын
Wonderful Video
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@mikepette4422
@mikepette4422 11 ай бұрын
I've missed KZfaq because I've just not been feeling like watching vids but I'm ready to get back in the saddle and waste some of my precious time watching the best stuff out there like britishmuzzleloaders !
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
That is very kind!
@Bike_at_UK
@Bike_at_UK Ай бұрын
your channel is brilliant. Even more informative than documentary in BBC
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Ай бұрын
Very kind. Glad you enjoyed the clip!
@sebastianroya335
@sebastianroya335 11 ай бұрын
Good show sir, damn good show. Carry on.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@jondavidmcnabb
@jondavidmcnabb 11 ай бұрын
This guy gets it, excellent research and re-enactment. I have used your material to teach others about historical facts.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Nice! Glad it was useful!
@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench 11 ай бұрын
Fantastic Rob, always wondered about this.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Thanks Matt!
@crookedjack3380
@crookedjack3380 11 ай бұрын
This guy is such a classic I love every single video
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Very kind.
@crookedjack3380
@crookedjack3380 11 ай бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders keep up the great work. It’s nice to see military history preserved and presented in such a informative way.
@sski
@sski 11 ай бұрын
This was amazing, as always! Thank you for the deep history, Sir. The whole kit and caboodle! I'd always seen the kit in pictures, but never knew what all the pouches and straps were all about, but now I do, thanks to you! Love those old rifles too. Never knew they basically rejected box mags as standard issue. That would have been game changing. hWeird.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Cheers! Glad you enjoyed it!
@sski
@sski 11 ай бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders Quite! I do every time. Yours is where I kick back with my favorite beverage and enjoy the history AND the scenery. It's so beautiful where you shoot. I hope those blasted fires stay far away from you.
@bigredinthewild
@bigredinthewild 11 ай бұрын
Lovely video once again! I'm hoping to put together a set of English import accoutrements (although in black) for my CS infantry impression for the Wilderness Campaign event next year. I'm certainly feeling the imperial influence!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
More info on that in Part One and Three of the Kit Series!
@Tadicuslegion78
@Tadicuslegion78 11 ай бұрын
The Beavers: Honey! He's back on the air.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Hello!
@fhsreelfilms
@fhsreelfilms 10 ай бұрын
An interesting comparison between the loading methods. I was surprised the difference between the two wasn’t more extreme. Great content as always!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 10 ай бұрын
Cheers!
@juzqp4224
@juzqp4224 10 ай бұрын
These videos are very under rated
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 10 ай бұрын
Very kind.
@jamesthomas5895
@jamesthomas5895 11 ай бұрын
THANK YOU, another GREAT and informative video, with your period correct uniforms and gear helps me understand the history better, I have one question when the Charger Guide was introduced and how was utilized.!.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Cheers! More info in the videos in the Lee Enfield playlist that cover that question!
@guyk2260
@guyk2260 11 ай бұрын
Splendid man, a true credit to the Empire . Medals all round.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Haha!
@covertops19Z
@covertops19Z 10 ай бұрын
I love all of his highly educational and entertaining vedios. Brings history alive, BRAVO ZULU to you Sir 💯%👍
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 10 ай бұрын
Very kind. Thank you.
@covertops19Z
@covertops19Z 10 ай бұрын
@britishmuzzleloaders Since fully retiring, I've really embraced flintlock riflry and musketry. And the 18th century, early 19th century impressions surrounding that period of technology.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 10 ай бұрын
@@covertops19Z Nice!
@boofini1830
@boofini1830 11 ай бұрын
The Lee Metford always gave the most victorian feeling of rifles. Thoroughly modern but designed the old doctrine in mind
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
The Magazine Lee Enfield was the same rifle, essentially... They certainly have that Victorian look...
@jesseusgrantcanales
@jesseusgrantcanales 11 ай бұрын
23:15 The camera was so excited it could not handle it, then fainted. XD
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
I know!
@badmutherfunster
@badmutherfunster 11 ай бұрын
May i say sir that the quality of the moustaches in this video is excellent, But the fine country conquering example that adorns your top lip is truly epic and deserves a channel of its own 😂
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Hahaha!
@RCAFpolarexpress
@RCAFpolarexpress 11 ай бұрын
Very Well Made Video Sir 😇👍👌Cheers 🍻
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@richhardie6897
@richhardie6897 11 ай бұрын
Repeating a number of the comments already made, but I hear that helps algorithmically? Regardless, it is always a banner day when a new BML video shows up! Thank you for intelligent and interesting videos, sir.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Most welcome! Cheers!
@dannywlm63
@dannywlm63 11 ай бұрын
Thanks again
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Welcome!
@vincetytler6175
@vincetytler6175 11 ай бұрын
Excellent
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Thank you V.
@thorsaxe5881
@thorsaxe5881 11 ай бұрын
Such excellent content, your attentions to the small details is outstanding. (Off subject) you have a (I believe) and NOE mold that you use to cast projectiles for your modern series of Mk-1 and Mk-2 rifles, I wish I had the mold number because I would get a duplicate mold of the one you have that has 5 cavity's and supply's a greater number of projectiles in a casting session as a real time saver. producing a supply of ammunition in great time savings. anyway. great video, Peace - Dave
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
The 303 reloading video has that info in it. Cheers.
@silentseawolf
@silentseawolf 11 ай бұрын
very enjoyable
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Cheers! Glad you enjoyed it!
@marco529
@marco529 11 ай бұрын
The new camera is awesome.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Not a new one,... it just fell over...
@Rkolb2798
@Rkolb2798 11 ай бұрын
The British Army has always had issue of using ammunition. Even in the 80s the US army seemed to have an unlimited supply compared to us poor boys , Stores are for Storing I guess
@vincetytler6175
@vincetytler6175 11 ай бұрын
The bin rats would have nothing to do if they issued everything
@life_of_riley88
@life_of_riley88 11 ай бұрын
I think the Vietnam statistic is: 60,000 rounds of rifle fire per one enemy casualty. We pretty much just blast everything.
@BrettBaker-uk4te
@BrettBaker-uk4te 11 ай бұрын
We issued the Trapdoor Springfield in part.... due to worries about ammunition expenditures. Krag and 1903 magazine cutoff, same thing. But we eventually stopped acting like poors.😂
@zoiders
@zoiders 11 ай бұрын
The Americans were far worse in the Victorian era due to a combination of small governance and graft. During the push out west the training ammunition allocation for US infantry and cav troopers was effectively one round per man per year. Victorian British soldiers had a positively luxurious allocation for training by comparison. They were given far more in action as well. I dislike it when current American gun culture and nationalism is allowed to taint the actual version of events. 18:00
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Always a contentious issue.
@christopherwang4392
@christopherwang4392 11 ай бұрын
There is a September 27, 2021 video by Ian McCollum of Forgotten Weapons in which he presented the Charger-Loading Lee-Enfield (CLLE) Mk I India Pattern used by the British Indian Army. He briefly explained how the British Indian Army had the most combat experience compared to its European counterpart and thus was an early user of stripper clip charger-loading in the early 1900s. Prior to the fixed charger bridge used by later models of the Lee-Enfield, the CLLE Mk I India Pattern which were converted from existing Long Lees used a sliding charger guide machined onto the bolt head and a separate charger tab rivetted onto the receiver.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Yes, I am familiar with that video... I do not know where he came up with the narrative that the Indian Army was ahead of the British, although I can only assume that there might be a misunderstanding of LoC dates, and the continuum of service rifle patterns... The IP rifle may well have been converted before the MLEs were converted for British Service but that is taking that relationship in isolation... The SMLE was being, or already had been, issued in the British Army to replace the MLE while all this Indian conversion work was taking place.... The Charger Loading LE was a second line, after the fact modification for the Territorial Force as a way to get charger loading into their hands faster than waiting for issues of the SMLE to finish off in the Regular Army. Ian left this part of the story out it would seem.... It's not a comparison of apples and apples... The IP Rifle was, as it was for the Territorial Force in the UK a stop gap weapon to increase their capability before the issue of the SMLE... The Indian Divisions first committed to the Western Front in 1915 were armed with the SMLE.
@podmonkey2501
@podmonkey2501 11 ай бұрын
Yay! New Britishmuzzleloaders video!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Indeed!
@paulketchupwitheverything767
@paulketchupwitheverything767 10 ай бұрын
A bit of period correct PTFE tape around the coarse thread of the cleaning rod might help to keep it in place.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 10 ай бұрын
Good idea!
@chrisbrown4002
@chrisbrown4002 11 ай бұрын
Hi Rob, thanks for another great video, good research on the spare magazine idea. Your shooting showed how one extra magazine had "obviously" speed up the delivery first 20 rounds,.That might have been enough to win a fire fight early on before dropping down to single shots ? and not massively effect overall ammunition expenditure. As always our British MOD continues to this day to waste far more money on their own appalling incompetence and errors than the troops in the field ever do :( Cheers Chris
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Chris! Cheers.
@mikefinkbiner4905
@mikefinkbiner4905 11 ай бұрын
Another great video. I do wish I could find one of the Rigby style front-end caps from a Lee Metford for a rebuild project. You would think with all of the rifles made there would be some still around.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
The MK I had a completely different nose cap (2 piece) to that found on later Marks.
@mikefinkbiner4905
@mikefinkbiner4905 11 ай бұрын
Ah - that explains the rarity. I’m rebuilding a Mk II Artillery Carbine which started life as an 1888 I.C.1, converted to an A.C.II in 1898. All I have is the receiver. IMA has most of the other parts I need, except the one piece front-end cap.@@britishmuzzleloaders
@rdjhardy
@rdjhardy 10 ай бұрын
03:09 the 'fig. 11' looks suspiciously French. Great video as always, Sir!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@lib556
@lib556 11 ай бұрын
Good vid, Rob... As always. I see you are channeling your inner Rhodesian by wearing shorts in the field. Perhaps a bit of RG influence from the late 80s/early 90s.... 😁
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Haha!
@Irishshootingchannel
@Irishshootingchannel 8 ай бұрын
Top notch Rob. The spare magazine concept was just a little ahead of it's time at that time I think. Heavy and expensive magazines that only held an 3 rounds or 2 rounds when compared to Carcano en bloc clips does seem to be a poor choice considering stripper and en bloc loading contemporary rifles. And a lot less consequential to the poor square basher if he looses chargers compared to loosing his 1 spare mag. How days of spud peeling would that earn him 😂😂
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 8 ай бұрын
Yes, perhaps... In retrospect, I think that the idea of spare magazines was more of a leap in the era of single loading, loose ammunition... Once charger loading became a thing, the spare magazine concept became much less viable...
@ilfarmboy
@ilfarmboy 11 ай бұрын
always amazes me
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
in a good way I hope....
@ilfarmboy
@ilfarmboy 11 ай бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders always
@dennispeterson3691
@dennispeterson3691 11 ай бұрын
Great job as always! Have you ever done a video on "collective" - as opposed to "volley" - fire?
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Volley Fire is collective fire..... by definition and by the book... 😉.... Have a look at the end of the Metford Firing Exercise Video
@ldmitruk
@ldmitruk 11 ай бұрын
Hmmm, 8 round magazine, 10 round package. Is this where the hot dogs count verses bun count potentially got started? 😂
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Hahaha!
@Ben_not_10
@Ben_not_10 11 ай бұрын
As much as I would like to envision British soldiers changing mags like a boss during the battle of Mons, I cannot help but think that even if the use of spare magazines had been kept through the Boer War, the conclusion of those in power at the time would’ve been that the increased rate of fire did enable troops to suppress enemies during an attack or defense of a position, but the increase in rate of fire over chargers would’ve been perceived as minimal and the cost of producing a full line of spare magazines would’ve been deemed too expensive. And charger loading would still have been adopted in the Post Boer War era. James Paris Lee’s dream (and to some extent Ferdinand Mannlicher’s as well) of soldiers armed with dozens of spare magazines was just too far ahead of its time given the technology of the era. Lee’s straight pull Navy rifle suffered greatly due to the issues of a small bore (.236 or 6mm caliber) high velocity (somewhere around 2800-3000 fps) cartridge not mixing well with the technology of the era, and was eventually abandoned in favor of adopting similar rifles and cartridges as the US Army. And it wouldn’t be until the 1950s that another group of men, Eugene Stoner and Mikhail Kalashnikov would develop rifles that closely aligned with James Lee’s vision.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Sure enough.. mag changing was the leap it was in the context of hand charged magazines and single loading... once charger loading came in, the advantage was not nearly as pronounced...
@SLON-sh2jg
@SLON-sh2jg 11 ай бұрын
Note that during the Boer War, everyone asked for chargers, not magazines. While there is no known link of information, it is clear that it quickly became clear that loading from a clip (charger, as it became known after adoption) is much more efficient than having a second magazine (which would technically seem much easier to do since you don't have need to invent a new rifle and equipment). After emptying the magazines, your rifle still turns into a single shot. While clip ammo comes standard and you don't have to fiddle with replacements, you just plug in the clip and that's it.
@jacktingle215
@jacktingle215 11 ай бұрын
How about a step forward in time to the end of the line? Charger reloads vs. magazine swaps.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Mmmmm,... It has merit, but the two didn't exist together or even near each other... What I try to show in this series is the juxtaposition of neighbouring generations of arms...
@ABCKorpi
@ABCKorpi 10 ай бұрын
For the threads working themselves loose: hit the very front thread on the rod with a hammer to slightly dent/bend it. That should give it more friction hand help it stay in. If you overdo the denting, you can always correct it with a file.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 10 ай бұрын
Usually I bear down on it... it works,... just didn't this time..
@jeffadams9807
@jeffadams9807 11 ай бұрын
Imagine If The Brits Were Armed With The Lee-Enfield's At Isandawanda & Roak's Drift, Durning The Zulu War...
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
It would be interesting to see.
@christopherwang4392
@christopherwang4392 11 ай бұрын
Are you going to do a video comparing magazine reloading as intended by James Paris Lee with the later stripper clip charger-loading used by the CLLE and SMLE?
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Hadn't though to, no... not really relevant as far as the history goes... at least the subject of this video has an an historical foundation.
@Pyjamarama11
@Pyjamarama11 11 ай бұрын
flaps, pouches, fore-ends, chains and skin This video has it all !!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Indeed!
@cameronlamb7274
@cameronlamb7274 10 ай бұрын
Not to mention the Canadian rangers were still using the lee enfield until a couple years ago. While they are not a “front line” unit they still play an important role.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 10 ай бұрын
Yes,... yes,... Canadian Rangers....
@johnnottahcal5725
@johnnottahcal5725 10 ай бұрын
Rob, my wife has been a continuous viewer of the channel for many years. Today, she looked up from her iphone to ask if your walk-in clothing closet is bigger than hers! 😂 We need a peek!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 10 ай бұрын
It’s all crammed in a wardrobe and hanging on pegs….
@johnnottahcal5725
@johnnottahcal5725 10 ай бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders You know we’re just busting balls. I love your commitment and videos! ❤️
@mattyallen3396
@mattyallen3396 11 ай бұрын
Its Sir Rob!!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Yes.,
@LPWRIZLEREXTRODIARE
@LPWRIZLEREXTRODIARE 10 ай бұрын
Would be awesome if you found a Remington lee 1885 to review. It was used very briefly by the New Zealand volunteer force in 1887 but only 500 were ever ordered and after 6 months they were withdrawn because of poor quality domestically produced ammo.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 10 ай бұрын
An interesting rifle for sure!
@Climpus
@Climpus 10 ай бұрын
'...pouch...'. Love it.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 10 ай бұрын
?
@Climpus
@Climpus 10 ай бұрын
It was your pronunciation. On a more serious note, do very much like your style of delivery. Your videos are enormously well-researched and you're obviously a subject matter expert. @@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 10 ай бұрын
@@Climpus Ah, I see. Cheers!
@diceman624
@diceman624 11 ай бұрын
Nice video! Any chance you're working on one comparing charger loading versus a magazine swap in the SMLEs?
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Mmmm,.. never was a "thing" so probably not..... never say never though...
@SLON-sh2jg
@SLON-sh2jg 11 ай бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders It is believed that a 20-round WWI magazine could be carried in a corresponding leather pouch, and replace the main magazine if necessary. I have no idea if it made it to the front in any form.
@americanfreikorps7413
@americanfreikorps7413 11 ай бұрын
What kind of lifespan do you have on your brass cases? Love to see a video about the reloading of cast bullets.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Go to the Ammunition Playlist and find the 303 Ammo "holding" video there is a link there....
@joearledge1
@joearledge1 11 ай бұрын
Mmmm that sweet sweet mustache in the morning.... Othais truely is a lucky man...
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Hahaha!
@dcnumber9
@dcnumber9 11 ай бұрын
great video as always...is the switch from black powder 303 to cordite 303 the reason that later rifles in the lee line dont have cleaning rods?
@zoiders
@zoiders 11 ай бұрын
Neah. We just moved to pull throughs and sectional cleaning rods.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
No,.. The Mk I was issued with a long jag for cleaning, which was replaced early on with a pull through,.. then the rod became a "clearing rod"... and was shorter and intended to be put together with a second one to clear stuck casings... then those were withdrawn just before the Boer War as unnecessary...
@dcnumber9
@dcnumber9 11 ай бұрын
thank you@@zoiders
@dcnumber9
@dcnumber9 11 ай бұрын
thank you@@britishmuzzleloaders
@EdAtoZ
@EdAtoZ 11 ай бұрын
Britishmuzzlelouders, Question what happen to the spare magazines, did they get the chain attachment added to them and then used on riffles ?
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
I assume they went onto newly manufactured rifles... they would have had the loops for the link so would just need to be fitted...
@ejharbet6390
@ejharbet6390 11 ай бұрын
Uk military had potential with 2mags that wouldn't be equalled until your brother Canadian designed "the greatest battle implement ever devised" Aka US RIFLE. 30 CALIBER M 1. or the gun that helped my dad return home from korea. As for this rebel,if i was armed with a lee rifle i would filtch another magazine perhaps making a concealed pouch for it. I enjoyed you video and it answer questions I've always had about lee rifle users. I bet there were extra magazines here and there with the forces of the empire. In the words of president Jefferson "i hold that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing."
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 11 ай бұрын
Debatable... Charger loading is as quick...
@88porpoise
@88porpoise 10 ай бұрын
The problem with that idea is that while the Lee-Metford was being finalized, two alternate systems for rapid reloading were invented, Mannlicher's en bloc clips and Mauser's stripper clips. Both are at least comparable to Lee's magazines in reloading speed, while being smaller, lighter, and cheaper than whole magazines. They also make more sense given late 19th century industry and logistical concerns along with the practicalities of bolt action rifles than detachable box magazines do as a method of reloading. It is only with the adoption of semi-automatic and automatic rifles that larger, detachable magazines really start to make sense over clips in standard issue rifles.
@SLON-sh2jg
@SLON-sh2jg 9 ай бұрын
The problem is that there aren't many spare mags there ever were. For 1892-93, for example, for MLM Mk.II, the supply of spare magazines was essentially not listed at all. From 1900, production increased sharply, to several thousand per year, so perhaps in a later period the magazines reached the front, but this would still be miserably for the several hundred thousand rifles on hand.
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