The Bizarre Airplane Design That Shook Up Aviation

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Dark Skies

Жыл бұрын

In the 1960s, a tailless double delta wing aircraft was more of an unproven technology than an audacious undertaking. But although the design lacked historical knowledge, the ambitious Swedish engineers at Saab pursued it with determination.
Unsurprisingly, when the J 35 model was finalized, the airframe encountered numerous problems during its initial service life. Due to its unstable nature, the double delta configuration made it difficult to land, requiring manual stabilization during such attempts.
Little did the Swedish know that the challenge would provide a one-of-a-kind opportunity to discover a maneuver not yet known to any other nation - the Cobra.
As the test pilots entered an uncontrollable stall at high alpha, they unexpectedly learned how to control it by quickly negating the angle of attack to counter the suspension. The maneuver turned the airframe into its own air brake, reducing its speed instantaneously.
Out of nowhere, the Saab 35 became an indisputable icon…
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@edgeblur
@edgeblur Жыл бұрын
My favorite jet ever. My father worked at SAAB in Linköping, Sweden as an engineer in the 1950-60s. I grew up in the next town over Norrköping, that is mentioned. F13, the airbase, is now gone and that area has been used many times for large rock festivals. Remember how they flew low over our house, tearing the sky apart with the sound. My mom hated it, me as a kid thought it was pretty cool.
@Fenrir.Gleipnir
@Fenrir.Gleipnir Жыл бұрын
Jaha vart bor du då? Jag bor på Kungsgatan. Jag har fina minnen ifrån F-13 jag förlorade oskulden i en militärbil där på fältet bodde granne med f-13 och vi hade ett hål i staketet snön in ofta tills vännen blev tagen av polisen dock roliga tider.
@em1osmurf
@em1osmurf Жыл бұрын
here, there be dragons!
@user-en9zo2ol4z
@user-en9zo2ol4z Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Mums are not cool with the very things that excite boys. Noise and explosions, HAH.
@matsv201
@matsv201 Жыл бұрын
When i grew up Draken and Viggen often had mock dogfights over where i live where airplanes from Ängelholm and Ljungbyhed was fighting each other
@charleshultquist9233
@charleshultquist9233 Жыл бұрын
@@matsv201 They made the windows rattle on Hallandsåsen ;-)
@michaelpowell3980
@michaelpowell3980 Жыл бұрын
a mid-50s all-weather mach 2 interceptor that could operate off rough strips and be serviced by average conscripts... and it still looks futuristic!
@kathymeinberg191
@kathymeinberg191 Жыл бұрын
It gets even better. I recall reading that, if an engine like today's F119-PW-100 had been available when the sexy Swede took flight, the design would have been capable of supercruise performance.
@Merecir
@Merecir 11 ай бұрын
It even had an analog early version of a data-link system. It was hidden as a regular clock on the dashboard, but could show various coded messages sent over radio.
@alainbellemare2168
@alainbellemare2168 8 күн бұрын
And cup holders
@toolthoughts
@toolthoughts Жыл бұрын
Iconic. I've had the pleasure of seeing these at airshows, and the plane still leaves an impression.
@pliashmuldba
@pliashmuldba Жыл бұрын
As a kid i saw these in the skies over Denmark, Some AFB still have one for display at the gate.
@mr_kingpin4835
@mr_kingpin4835 Жыл бұрын
​@@pliashmuldba Karup airbase, right? I sadly wasnt alive when they were still in service, but my dad worked on the drakens there for a long time.
@akyhne
@akyhne Жыл бұрын
They were insanely loud. I once experienced them at the airshow in Skrydstrup (Denmark), where they came from behind the crowd, at over mach one. I knew that they would be coming from the airshow program, but not from where. But I was one of the lucky few, who discovered them in time, and covered my ears. They were maybe only 3-400 meters above us, so people jumped, at the bang. This could never happen today, of course. Mach one and beyond over labd, was banned a few years later.
@pliashmuldba
@pliashmuldba Жыл бұрын
@@akyhne Typical Denmark, ban / outlaw any kind of fun, we are a far cry from our Viking ancestors today.
@mr_kingpin4835
@mr_kingpin4835 Жыл бұрын
@Jens Nobel Actually no, Denmark no longer fly the draken at any shows. They currently have 2 drakens at shelter 152 that can indeed fly, however are not allowed to. They are only present on the ground at shows.
@michaelegan6092
@michaelegan6092 Жыл бұрын
I think that a lot of Swedens incredible succes,in many different spheres, is due to the engineers being left to get on with the work and not interfered with by burocracy. Wonderful thinkers, I admire them.
@johnstuartsmith
@johnstuartsmith 11 ай бұрын
Sweden's population isn't much bigger than that of Los Angeles county, but they have consistenly turned out many well-trained and creative engineers.
@kondirecs
@kondirecs Ай бұрын
It's a common scandinavian thing. We just care, for what we do.
@Kommunisator
@Kommunisator Жыл бұрын
The "little dragon" mentioned in the video is actually on display at the swedish Flygvapenmuseum in Linköping. There are always staff on hand which can explain fascinating details about the aircraft on display there to you. Even the little one is not a "hodgepodge" like some experimental designs, but a fully capable and fleshed out aircraft in its own right, and has served lots of flight hours in the development of the Draken.
@philsspace69
@philsspace69 Жыл бұрын
Är det den som hänger i taket?
@Sneckit
@Sneckit Жыл бұрын
@@philsspace69 I taket i högra hangaren hänger en vanlig draken. Lilldraken var med i gamla utställningen som nu renoveras.
@philsspace69
@philsspace69 Жыл бұрын
@@Sneckit Aha! Tack för svar! 🙂
@liukang3545
@liukang3545 Жыл бұрын
@@Sneckit Nice visste jag ej, tackar
@1982valeriu
@1982valeriu Жыл бұрын
Ooh am visiting Norkkoping for a conference in a month, so the museum in Linkoping is my top priority, forget about conference or meatballs 😅
@finntastique3891
@finntastique3891 Жыл бұрын
Back in the early 1980s, we were having physical exercise at school, playing soccer. Suddenly a mighty roar was heard from the sky straight above the playing field. The game ended right then and everybody just stood silently watching a pair of J-35s at some 300 meters of altitude, flying in formation on approach to Helsinki-Vantaa (EFHK) airport. It was a mighty sight.
@DaleGribbletheCat
@DaleGribbletheCat Ай бұрын
LUCKY
@azynkron
@azynkron Жыл бұрын
This plane still looks state of the art and beautiful. Many fighters looks obsolete, such as the F4 e.g., but this looks just as cutting edge as when it came out.
@andymartinez767
@andymartinez767 Жыл бұрын
The Swedish sure knew how to design and build aircraft, all their models are outstanding
@christineshotton824
@christineshotton824 Жыл бұрын
Not just aircraft. Their designs for everything from infantry anti-tank weapons, to artillery, to submarines have typically been very good.
@kaboom-zf2bl
@kaboom-zf2bl Жыл бұрын
LOL avro arrow .... 10 years earlier ... they didnt build new they rebuilt OLD from another country .... they took all the design concepts from the avro arrow of canada ... and the video presenter misses the fact that no avro arrow ever was a prototype plane ... all were cooke craige design method production run planes ...
@christineshotton824
@christineshotton824 Жыл бұрын
@@kaboom-zf2bl Avro Arrow: first flight 1958 Saab Draken: first flight 1955
@kaboom-zf2bl
@kaboom-zf2bl Жыл бұрын
@@christineshotton824 the arrow was cancelled in 57 .... it first flew in 54 as rl 201 ... and the draaken was in 58 first flight ... after they studied what they could of the arrow ...
@christineshotton824
@christineshotton824 Жыл бұрын
@@kaboom-zf2bl Well, I can believe you, or I can believe the BBC, CBC Canada, and every other online information source which all agree on a March 1958 date for a first flight.
@daveriddell3704
@daveriddell3704 Жыл бұрын
Uh oh! The Su-27 fan boys are going to hate that it’s not the only plane that can do the cobra nor did it invent it. 🤣
@robandcheryls
@robandcheryls Жыл бұрын
That’s the first thing I thought, in the first two mins 😂 🇨🇦 Vet
@one-metallica4156
@one-metallica4156 Жыл бұрын
🤯 I really thought the Russians had invented that maneuver. Still they deserve some credit for having more planes that can perfect the maneuver.
@joshfrommilan6130
@joshfrommilan6130 Жыл бұрын
@@one-metallica4156 yeah, leave it to the Russians to perfect the art of dumping their energy and becoming an easy target 😂
@one-metallica4156
@one-metallica4156 Жыл бұрын
@@joshfrommilan6130 my mistake, I meant the Soviet Union.
@nirfz
@nirfz Жыл бұрын
Have seen Mig29's do it on airshows and i have even seen a german Tornade do it once on an airshow. So in any case they would never be the only ones ;-)
@gunner678
@gunner678 Жыл бұрын
A friend of mine who served in the Bundesmarine in the 1980s, proudly showed me the photo of the 'Mig' that buzzed his destroyer in the Baltic. As a former British Army air defender, I was forced to dissappoint him when I informed him that he had actually snapped a Saab Draken. He sagged before my eyes like a pricked balloon lol.
@wolfganggugelweith8760
@wolfganggugelweith8760 Жыл бұрын
The Saab Draken on the picture first is a Austrian 🇦🇹J-35. It is now in a museum for aircraft history there. I saw those planes very often here. The sound of the turbine sounded really angry like a Dragon (Draken). Greetings from Linz Austria 🇦🇹😎👍💪💙🌻🐺 Europe!
@Jofe08
@Jofe08 Жыл бұрын
Google mal tulln draken Kreisverkehr ich seh den jeden Tag wenn ich in die Arbeit fahre
@mrwho30
@mrwho30 Жыл бұрын
Die HTL Eisenstadt - Flugtechnik hatte lange Zeit eine Draken im Hangar stehen. Wurde leider 2022 gegen eine Saab-105 ausgetauscht.
@fuzzblightyear145
@fuzzblightyear145 Жыл бұрын
The Draken and Viggen were my favourite airfix models as a kid. Such a unique design. Very SAAB
@biggggboi123
@biggggboi123 Жыл бұрын
I was 8 years old when I got my first model to build. It was a Draken. I was hooked on that plane. Even now, almost 30 years on I get goosebumps when I see it.
@travisash8180
@travisash8180 Жыл бұрын
Maybe you should go to the doctors ?
@BaddaBigBoom
@BaddaBigBoom Жыл бұрын
Airfix? I remember this kit. When I was about 11 I got the Airfix Saab Viggen.
@biggggboi123
@biggggboi123 Жыл бұрын
@@BaddaBigBoom that's the one...I sucked at it, was 1/144 scale but it was so much fun. Had the old school olive drab camo scheme
@StrikeEagIe
@StrikeEagIe Жыл бұрын
Goosebumps? Do you have like ptsd with the j35 or something?
@SimondeLisle-au
@SimondeLisle-au Жыл бұрын
Me too! Snap
@VesaGuardian
@VesaGuardian Жыл бұрын
Most of the planes in this video were in the Finnish Air Force livery. Brought back many pleasant memories from those golden years when I was in the army.
@andriandrason1318
@andriandrason1318 Жыл бұрын
And Danish.
@markusr353
@markusr353 Жыл бұрын
Shame we didn’t buy the Gripen.
@kristofferhellstrom
@kristofferhellstrom Жыл бұрын
​@@markusr353 Indeed! We could have built and developed gripen together and you wouldn't have been so relyant of the US. Made in the North (nordic)
@arisaarinen8752
@arisaarinen8752 Жыл бұрын
Indeed. Most of the FiAF Draken footage was part of a winning military movie. I was actually piloting a Draken on some of the aerial sequences. There was a rented photo pod from the Swedish AF under that Draken. Technically the fighter was very reliable and much liked by its pilots. Within the FiAF we only lost one Draken (due to pilot error). Operation with the type 1972-2000! Great aircraft from Sweden.
@redblade8160
@redblade8160 Жыл бұрын
vesa vartiainen You mean these planes were finished before entering service?
@chriscunnane1512
@chriscunnane1512 Жыл бұрын
You just keep getting better Dr Dark, in all aspects! I am particularly impressed with Your narrative talent progression. Thank You
@JTA1961
@JTA1961 Жыл бұрын
Yes...yes... & Yes. Well said.
@lucasokeefe7935
@lucasokeefe7935 Жыл бұрын
That first cobra clip is almost terrifying. The way the aircraft pitches up rather slowly but then the deceleration happens so quickly at such high speeds.. If you were chasing that aircraft in a dogfight scenario your first instinct would probably be to pitch up to stay on it, and you'd be half way through doing that before all of a sudden you're completely disintegrated.
@sub08Angstrom
@sub08Angstrom Жыл бұрын
Indeed!
@lancerevell5979
@lancerevell5979 Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite jet fighter designs! So very cool looking! 👍😎
@ThatsMrPencilneck2U
@ThatsMrPencilneck2U Жыл бұрын
It's not quite as photogenic as the F-104, and nowhere near as good at killing its pilots, either.
@holeshothunter5544
@holeshothunter5544 Жыл бұрын
Revell made plastic models of airplanes. They weren't very good either.
@ThatsMrPencilneck2U
@ThatsMrPencilneck2U Жыл бұрын
@@holeshothunter5544 Neither were most of the kids building them.
@marcushillerstrom25
@marcushillerstrom25 Жыл бұрын
I loved it when they flew past when I was a kid. And I saw one flying last year at the airshow in Uppsala. Such an iconic airplane. Probably my favourite one, but I also really love the Viggen. Growing up, the ones stationed at Uppsala flew by pretty often until they were replaced by the Viggen. Now a days, you very rarely see a couple of Gripens go buy over the archipelago.
@Halibrand
@Halibrand Жыл бұрын
I loved watching drakens and viggens flying over my school yard in northern Uppsala, when the viggens flew the afternoon run they always made turns right above my school and the sound was so loud that class had to be paused for 5-10 min 😁
@Bruisewillies
@Bruisewillies Жыл бұрын
I remember going to an airshow in Sweden while on a Scout exchange trip in 1993 and the Vigggen left such an impression on me. The noise!!!!
@andersgrassman6583
@andersgrassman6583 Жыл бұрын
That's because after the cold war end, invironmental matters became more prioritized than defence concerns. They aren't allowed to use afterburners in the Stockholm archipelago, hell they're almost not allowed to fly here at all! I know, that the few times they fly over me, they are on intercept an mission - most likely Russian transgressions. I hope they get to fly more, and more often over me! There is a reason we build these! (And I love all of Lansen, Draken, Viggen and Gripen designs.)
@tor2919
@tor2919 11 ай бұрын
Of course they aren’t allowed afterburner over cities (unless it’s war). We might enjoy the sound but 99% of people are annoyed. Which is fair enough. Also, what would be the practical use of using afterburner over a city? You aren’t allowed to go supersonic anyway because the shockwave would destroy a lot of things
@marcushillerstrom25
@marcushillerstrom25 11 ай бұрын
@@tor2919 Well, the archipelago isn't a city. It's just lots and lots of little islands near to the coastline. And when they go up to intercept Russian airplanes (or, back in the day, American spy planes) they definitely are allowed to use afterburners.
@desfoley6335
@desfoley6335 Жыл бұрын
The Swedes really know how to build unique machines, be they fighter Jets, or Cars, they are always apart and different from the normal conventions. I hadn't heard of the J35 before, it's a beautiful aircraft, with an unbelievable service record. Great video
@martinlund9524
@martinlund9524 Жыл бұрын
Well the story is also that the topspeed is way over mach 2. But the 7000L? is draining so fast that it is more or less impossible to fly faster ;) Visit Aeroseum next to Gothenburg / Göteborg and they have guided tours and many other planes also.
@norrsken9608
@norrsken9608 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. The Saab 35 is a really beautiful aircraft.
@Marcusinthemix
@Marcusinthemix Жыл бұрын
Wow, what a great episode, I grew up in the 80-ties in Sweden in one of the cities that were deeply involved in the development and maintenance of both J35 Draken and J37 Viggen and I have such strong memories as a kid watching the sky and seeing these planes in full speed!
@rudolfabelin383
@rudolfabelin383 Жыл бұрын
A late friend of mine was head of the aerodynamics for the Saab J35 Draken. That was Åke Anderberg, MS EngPhy.
@Frankysan
@Frankysan Жыл бұрын
While the Swedish word Draken can translate into Dragon, the actual inspiration for the name of this aircraft is one of the other meanings of the word, that being Kite. This was chosen based on the shape of the aircraft, resembling a kite.
@rollozucco209
@rollozucco209 Жыл бұрын
nice, in Frisian kiting is called "draakjevliegen"!
@michaeltempsch5282
@michaeltempsch5282 Жыл бұрын
@@rollozucco209 I'd assume direct translations would be drakflygning/kite flying in Swedish/English
@abrahamedelstein4806
@abrahamedelstein4806 Жыл бұрын
Yes, but let's be real here, from the moment it flew, everyone knew it was a dragon.
@TheEsdaniel
@TheEsdaniel Жыл бұрын
Well , that's not cool
@rollozucco209
@rollozucco209 Жыл бұрын
@@michaeltempsch5282 frisian, german, scandinavian are old german-originated languages
@gregmead2967
@gregmead2967 Жыл бұрын
I remember making a plastic model of this as a kid in the 1960s. Didn't know much about aeronautics, just thought it was an amazing looking aircraft.
@Algabatz
@Algabatz Жыл бұрын
I too had that!
@robbygaume600
@robbygaume600 Жыл бұрын
It's the only 1:78 scale model I ever built as a kid in the 80s. Monogram and Revell didn't make it in 1:48 scale
@dachautv
@dachautv Жыл бұрын
Me too.
@woodrowsmith3400
@woodrowsmith3400 Жыл бұрын
Greg, I built my model in 1974!
@robert4you
@robert4you Жыл бұрын
Same here. I got mine plastic model of Draken (I had Viggen too) in 1979, when I was 10... remember when I built it with that small tube of watery glue... lovely memories 🙂
@robertkerr4199
@robertkerr4199 Жыл бұрын
Nifty, SAAB invented the cobra maneuver by accident. Accidental discoveries are the best, first it's "oh s**t, I''m going to die!" then it's, "Awesome! This is the coolest s**t ever!"
@JTA1961
@JTA1961 Жыл бұрын
A missnake
@blackhawk7r221
@blackhawk7r221 Жыл бұрын
Serendipity
@mathiassvensson7911
@mathiassvensson7911 Жыл бұрын
The called the maneuver ”The short parry” a fencing term.
@jj4791
@jj4791 Жыл бұрын
@@JTA1961 😂
@pashapasovski5860
@pashapasovski5860 Жыл бұрын
Not Cobra, Cobra lasts for longer than a split second! It's only possible with trust vector jets and is balancing vertically and even moving backwards, like Pugachev does with Sukhoi 27-57
@johanbergqvist3939
@johanbergqvist3939 Жыл бұрын
As a member of a youth organisation called "Flygpojkarna" ( aero-boys) in the mid 70's I often got the opportunity to see J35 start and land at F18 Tullinge south of Stockholm where the Capital fighter defence were stationed. Quite spectacular after sunset, quite a few settings were on the "harsh" side making good use of the spuhr wheels. Now I live right next to that former airbase, discontinued in the 80's and made into a residential area.
@SwikingSwe
@SwikingSwe Жыл бұрын
Aw, sweet F18. I grew up in Tullinge. Sadly I missed the mark. By the time I was born it was closed. But I had a family friend that grew up right beside it during the 60s and those stories were amazing. I did get to see a lot of drag racing though.
@patriciosilvarobalino9832
@patriciosilvarobalino9832 Жыл бұрын
Once again you made an excelent video, full of interesting information. Keep on, you rock.
@TheSybermedic
@TheSybermedic Жыл бұрын
The Saab Draken and the SR-71 are the two coolest planes of my childhood. I would have loved to see a Draken at an air show here in the states.
@jj4791
@jj4791 Жыл бұрын
There were a few being flown by a test pilot school. Might still have one or two in Nevada or something.
@tor2919
@tor2919 11 ай бұрын
I know Swedish historic flight brought over the Saab 37 a couple years ago for a show in the US. Perhaps you could convince them to bring their 35 next time! :)
@wearetomorrowspast.5617
@wearetomorrowspast.5617 Жыл бұрын
Lost count of how many Dragon and Viggen Airfix kits I built as a kid. And as an adult, my 2nd favorite/ best car was a Saab 900. Saab really knew how to build a cool machine.
@dwightemery5694
@dwightemery5694 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful aircraft design. The SAAB car a teacher of mine had was very nice as well and his car always reminded me of this aircraft when I was in college. Nice video... thanks for the video share.
@FoundAndExplained
@FoundAndExplained Жыл бұрын
Damn another amazing Dark Skies video!
@NygaardBushcraft
@NygaardBushcraft Жыл бұрын
My dad flew the Draken for danish airforce in the 80's and I remember I got a draken model airplane I assembled and painted and - supervised by my dad - added stickers that came with the set. Lots of fond memories of me and my dad spending time with that model set.
@JTA1961
@JTA1961 Жыл бұрын
Right on...& thanks for sharing.
@FundyBay66
@FundyBay66 Жыл бұрын
Cool, I was lucky enough to visit RDAF Karup in the early 80s and had a flight in the Draken.
@kristofferhellstrom
@kristofferhellstrom Жыл бұрын
Sound like good memories with your dad. Lovely :)
@spacecase13
@spacecase13 Жыл бұрын
I love this aircraft, it's so Buck Rogers space ship like. Great to see a video all about it.
@mclarenscca
@mclarenscca Жыл бұрын
I never even knew about the Draken! The more I watch Dark, the more I learn every day! Thank you!
@orjanarthursson3604
@orjanarthursson3604 8 ай бұрын
Excellent video. Good research work and very well put together. I enjoyed every minute.
@miguelservetus9534
@miguelservetus9534 Жыл бұрын
The Swedes are great engineers and people. 🇸🇪
@spanishpeaches2930
@spanishpeaches2930 Жыл бұрын
...who unfortunately wrote their own suicide note about 50 years back.
@LizardCrewSweden
@LizardCrewSweden Жыл бұрын
@@spanishpeaches2930 Can you elaborate on that, please? It's spring. I look through my window and see order and beauty. Either I have a very good window, or I am in dire need of some hard truths.
@spanishpeaches2930
@spanishpeaches2930 Жыл бұрын
@@LizardCrewSweden When they decided that they were too ethnocentric and thought that having a suicidal open door policy to people who had nothing in common with them , no history with them and absolutley no shared culture with them ...was a genuinely good left liberal idea.
@benghazi4216
@benghazi4216 Жыл бұрын
@@LizardCrewSweden He is either an idiot, a traitor or a foreign agent. What he actually means doesn't matter, since it's BS either way.
@LordXelous
@LordXelous Жыл бұрын
I went to see the lovely example they have at Newark Air Museum, Nottinghamshire, UK. She's a beauty, set up so you can see the starboard win and the cannon within up close, recently painted, a gloriously aerodynamic shape and she looks the fastest in the hangar despite being stark still.
@newsreviewerrobot-4639
@newsreviewerrobot-4639 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the detailed analysis in this video.
@SanoyNimbus
@SanoyNimbus Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video! :)
@ros8737
@ros8737 Жыл бұрын
Majestic plane. The video mentions Bas 60 (Road bases) and STRIL60 (cold war history of radar data links), which I find are fascinating subject on it’s own.
@Whatshisname346
@Whatshisname346 Жыл бұрын
Took a trip to the Finnish aviation museum recently where they have one on display and a simulator. It’s a beautifully built aircraft especially when compared to the MIG 21 they have there as well.
@veijo6745
@veijo6745 Жыл бұрын
Yep, but with MIG 21, pilot can make full Cobra ;)
@Emanemoston
@Emanemoston Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. 😊
@MattLondon77
@MattLondon77 Жыл бұрын
I think I've never seen this much footage of FAF Drakens. Cool!
@lukasethan6429
@lukasethan6429 Жыл бұрын
Growing up in Wichita, Ks, around F-4s, F-15s, B-1’s, Beech Starship, Shuttle Transport 747, and many many others, Saab Viggen and Drakens were always my favorite. My first toy jet as a 2-3 year old was a Saab Viggen. It was beautiful, it still catches my eye. The toy also came in handy at 3-4, as I used it’s sharp nosecone to stab my brothers soccer ball and ruin it, because he was a dick. Ahhhh. Memories, 🤣🤣🤣
@robert4you
@robert4you Жыл бұрын
Ah... love between brothers 😂
@larslarsman
@larslarsman Жыл бұрын
I was born in Wichita before the end of WW2. My mom ran the IBM punchard parts inventory control at Beechcraft. My dad worked initially at Cessna, then many of them at Cessna including my dad were moved to Boeing to build the B29's.
@lukasethan6429
@lukasethan6429 Жыл бұрын
@@larslarsman that’s awesome! My grandma worked at Boeing, Cessna, Beechcraft, and one other during the war. My Dad worked in Boeing Military Special Projects, and I had the luck of working for the same people he did- albeit further up the ladder. I love the history, but that’s all it is now-history. Aviation is on the way out of Wichita, slowly, but out of here day by day. Thanks for sharing that. One thing I’ve learned when I was in aircraft- they don’t make ‘em’ like they used to.
@ZaHandle
@ZaHandle Жыл бұрын
Air strike
@finjay21fj
@finjay21fj 8 ай бұрын
Heehee wondiful yX-D 😂🏆🥇❤️
@neilfleming2787
@neilfleming2787 Жыл бұрын
this one has just blown my mind. I used to do Airfix kits when I was a kid and I thought this was the Viggen, after looking it up the Viggen was even more strange looking
@chuckcawthon3370
@chuckcawthon3370 10 ай бұрын
Outstanding Presentation as always.
@randomdriver
@randomdriver Жыл бұрын
Thanks. This is very interesting episode. I always have been fascinated by the Draken. I have seen it many times flying and even have sat at the cockpit.
@Will-be-free
@Will-be-free Жыл бұрын
I remember these flying over my head as a kid and thought they were awesome. It never occurred to me that they were actually weapons of war.
@bobthebuilder1360
@bobthebuilder1360 Жыл бұрын
Lol how. At the age of 5 i would of been excited. And instantly knew what it was (i was introduced to action movies and halo 1 and 2 way too young😂😂 in 2005 ) so maybe thats how 😂. Damn i just pulled a whole 180 😭😂
@fredosinsemilla3896
@fredosinsemilla3896 Жыл бұрын
Your mother was probably a feminist.
@milanstevic8424
@milanstevic8424 Жыл бұрын
what did you think they were for? delivering presents?
@Will-be-free
@Will-be-free Жыл бұрын
@@milanstevic8424 I knew they were for the military, but I didn't have any notion of what a war was.
@milanstevic8424
@milanstevic8424 Жыл бұрын
@@Will-be-free I got born in Yugoslavia.
@claytonbouldin9381
@claytonbouldin9381 Жыл бұрын
I always had a place in my heart for delta winged planes. This plane and the Mirage 2000 always impressed me as a kid.
@williamosborne6866
@williamosborne6866 Жыл бұрын
The F-106 Delta Dart is still one of the best looking (and performing) aircraft ever.
@redblade8160
@redblade8160 Жыл бұрын
Clayton Bouldin. You must have a massive heart then. How did you manage to fit these planes inside your heart?
@slendergollum
@slendergollum Жыл бұрын
@@redblade8160 You`re like a left(delta)wing comedian. Not funny, not needed
@redblade8160
@redblade8160 Жыл бұрын
@@slendergollum Did you make that up? I laughed, but it was on the inside.
@claytonbouldin9381
@claytonbouldin9381 Жыл бұрын
@@redblade8160 I parallel park them next to each other!
@craigpennington1251
@craigpennington1251 Жыл бұрын
The J-35 Draken is super cool & very capable. One of my favorites.
@diraziz396
@diraziz396 Жыл бұрын
Great Stuff. Thank You
@alyssinwilliams4570
@alyssinwilliams4570 Жыл бұрын
I had a metal toy (not a model, but thats all I remember) of this waaaaaaaay back in the early 80s as a kid. I loved it, and it resulted in me loving this fighter
@jimmyandersson4599
@jimmyandersson4599 Жыл бұрын
I remember them when I was young kid, they were incredible noisy but beautiful to see in the sky. 😊👍
@HerbertCappon1
@HerbertCappon1 Жыл бұрын
When can we enjoy the Saab Viggen documentary??? Great Work!!!!
@krazylevin
@krazylevin Жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful aircraft. I enjoyed this video.
@DrivermanO
@DrivermanO Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite planes - from the 1963 edition of the Observers book of Aircraft, from when I was a kid! And I have to admit to some surprise for this video. Every picture of a plane was relevant, which is highly unusual for this channel! So well done,keep up the good work.
@Zmit
@Zmit Жыл бұрын
"Der er drøn over Kølvrå" Was the slogan of the neighboring city to the Danish air base hosting one (perhaps two) of the Draken squadrons. It was always a treat, to me, visiting my family in Kølvrå and quite frequently getting to se -and hear! the low altitude fly-over of Drakens, either in solo or formation. I also got to see the (unapproved/illegally) painted Dannebrog Draken saluting the nation's sports fans from the skies.
@SolidSativa1
@SolidSativa1 Жыл бұрын
My dad was a weapon specialist at that base. I have lots of great childhood memories of me sitting in that pilot seat while my dad was flicking switches in the nosewheel bay
@johncunningham6928
@johncunningham6928 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. The Draken has always been one of my favourite jet fighters, and like many young lads of my generation, I had the Airfix kit...
@MrWhiskers65
@MrWhiskers65 Жыл бұрын
Beautifully sleek! Can’t believe how long ago they were introduced into service!
@kalleklp7291
@kalleklp7291 Жыл бұрын
"Draken" actually also means a small kite as the aircraft resembles a kite when looked up or down on. It was pretty spectacular for its time. The Danish airforce also had a bunch of them and the pilots just loved them. As the F16 came into service the Draken was outphased.
@tor2919
@tor2919 11 ай бұрын
Aye, it’s a double meaning, but the intended meaning is “dragon”. Just as Viggen means “thunderbolt” you see some obnoxious Swedes translating it to “tufted duck”. Even though Saab and Flygvapnet were very clear that the Viggen was named from the bolts that spring from Thor’s hammer. The Saab 35 is named “dragon”, the 37 is “thunderbolt” and the 39 is “gryphon”. Then you have the “funny” guys using double meaning “kite, duck and arrested”
@janrabie1890
@janrabie1890 Жыл бұрын
There is an amazing museum outside Gothenburg where these planes are on display inside a massive hanger carved out of a mountain. You can actually sit inside the cockpit.
@mikecoshan3752
@mikecoshan3752 Жыл бұрын
Loved watching the Saab jets at air shows like the Draken, Viggen & especially the Gripen
@Jerven88
@Jerven88 Жыл бұрын
Far ahead of it's time. Both the JAS 35 Draken and and JAS 37 Viggen are amazing aircraft
@skodbolle
@skodbolle Жыл бұрын
I have family that serviced Draken's here in Denmark, the were well liked by pilots and service crew alike, and it was a sad day when they were taken out of service
@davidmorgan858
@davidmorgan858 8 ай бұрын
One of the most beautiful and unique planes built. One of my favorites and I always wanted to see one fly.
@thefamousemickey
@thefamousemickey Жыл бұрын
I did my military service here in Austria in 2003 at an air force base, when they were still in service. Love the Draken!
@ozenfant_ozn
@ozenfant_ozn Жыл бұрын
absolutely beautiful, iconic design, one of a kind. gotta love the boldness of the swedish engineers. though as an austrian i have somewhat mixed feelings, the Draken was already an oldtimer when we finally got it back in the 80s.
@JTA1961
@JTA1961 Жыл бұрын
Boldness...good choice of words
@toddwebb6216
@toddwebb6216 Жыл бұрын
A friend of mine, who drove a SAAB 390EMS was stunned to know that SAAB created jet planes... he smiled as he shifted gears.
@RoyalMela
@RoyalMela Жыл бұрын
Letters S and A actually mean Swedish Aeroplane (in swedish) and AB is from Aktiebolag aka limited company. Svenska Aeroplan AktieBolag.
@handlesarefeckinstupid
@handlesarefeckinstupid Жыл бұрын
Totally different companies though. Toshiba make spacecraft, doesn't mean your cheap radio is a spacecraft.
@kristofferhellstrom
@kristofferhellstrom Жыл бұрын
hehe :D
@patrikfloding7985
@patrikfloding7985 Жыл бұрын
@@handlesarefeckinstupid Early SAAB cars were actually made by the same company as SAAB Aircraft. Only later did it split (which made sense), and some aircraft thinking probably stayed in the car company. (I know the SAAB 9-5 had a night driving blackout cockpit feature, which was excellent for improving night vision.)
@wargamingchina9174
@wargamingchina9174 Жыл бұрын
Well done mate, thank you
@demacherius1
@demacherius1 Жыл бұрын
In Tulln in Austria we have one of the Draken's on display in one of our roundabouts. Its impressive everytime you drive by it.
@informationcollectionpost3257
@informationcollectionpost3257 Жыл бұрын
Always like the look and capabilities of the double delta wing. Makes me wonder why more plane manufacturers don't use it.
@isuzu343
@isuzu343 Жыл бұрын
I think the HAL Tejas is the only modern jet that uses a pure compound tailless delta without canards.
@thystaff742
@thystaff742 Жыл бұрын
I would assume it was cost in manufacture why it wasn't more popular for use beyond military.
@Justanotherconsumer
@Justanotherconsumer Жыл бұрын
Leading edge extensions on the F/A-18 are suspiciously similar.
@chrisrautmann8936
@chrisrautmann8936 Жыл бұрын
Changes in computing and fly by wire, along with a canard configuration, made the double delta not as maneuverable. Millenium7 has a number of videos that go over it in rather technical detail.
@That70sGuitarist
@That70sGuitarist Жыл бұрын
​@@thystaff742 Actually, the overall manufacturing costs were greatly reduced by the simplicity and practicality of this brilliant design. That's why Sweden (which had a population of roughly five million back then) was able to build 651 of these beauties. They built the forward fuselage and inner wing as a single piece, then bolted on the rear fuselage (which contained the engine, of course) and outer wing panels. Frankly, Sweden couldn't have afforded a more expensive foreign fighter contract back then, so they opted to build the best homegrown fighter their limited tax base could manage, and to everyone else's surprise, it turned out to be a world-beating design thanks to their ingenuity. Canada could learn a great deal from Sweden!😉
@Miso.coop.projects
@Miso.coop.projects Жыл бұрын
The Draken is maybe my favorite aircraft ever, thanks so much for making this about it! I could watch it fly all day.
@doc7440
@doc7440 Жыл бұрын
really sci-fi-esque airpleane , love it
@rollfpeters5159
@rollfpeters5159 Жыл бұрын
Great plane --great report--thx rollf
@kylehenderson9691
@kylehenderson9691 Жыл бұрын
Oh man, the sense of rejection is palpable at 1:52 😂
@dancamp6012
@dancamp6012 Жыл бұрын
wow that was rude af
@gNeric
@gNeric Жыл бұрын
well the last thing i expected to see on a youtube thumbnail is one of our retired drakens in special livery, this beautiful plane is currently exhibited in the military aviation museum in zeltweg, austria.
@dutchman7216
@dutchman7216 Жыл бұрын
That was interesting thank you.
@papaschlumpf5894
@papaschlumpf5894 Жыл бұрын
By the looks the Draken has always been one of my all time favorites. It had a unique kind of elegance never seen before and thereafter.
@tsegulin
@tsegulin Жыл бұрын
I've always like the look of the SAAB Draken. A particularly attractive fighter that 'just looked right'. It's impressive that a relatively small country like Sweden could develop such competitive, high performance aircraft.
@oildrag
@oildrag Жыл бұрын
If it looks right, it should fly right ! 👍👍
@peabase
@peabase Жыл бұрын
Simple. They didn't know that they couldn't.
@runem5429
@runem5429 Жыл бұрын
I remember, as a child, seeing a Danish Draken at low level turning hard, trying to defend against a Danish F-16 on it's tail during some exercise, made an impression. Always loved the look of that plane.
@TubeNotMe
@TubeNotMe Жыл бұрын
That the old bird could still play well with the much younger F-16 which was designed to be a dogfighting pilot's plane says a lot about what a great design it was.
@deckape714
@deckape714 Жыл бұрын
Well done!
@brianvosburgh1720
@brianvosburgh1720 Жыл бұрын
Jeez, I had essentially forgot about that thing. That was a cool looking aircraft but I just learned some things about it. Well done. 👍🇺🇲
@Soundbrigade
@Soundbrigade Жыл бұрын
The engineers at SAAB also constructed cars that were much influenced by the airplane constructions, that is sleek design with extremely low air resistance. On the airplanes generally and also mentioned in the video was the ability to quickly fuel and rearm the jets. Also electronics was built modular and a faulty module could be easily and quickly be replaced within minutes almost. I live very close to one of the airbases and on the way to Lidkoping, 50km away are at least three landingstrips, called “Flygraka” in Swedish, meaning a straight (and wide) stretch for airplanes (and for anyone who wants to reach Mach2 with their cars or MCs).
@claytonking70
@claytonking70 Жыл бұрын
Yeah and a oil filter that screwed out into the frame. Had to Jack it up to change the oil
@johanankarback6821
@johanankarback6821 Жыл бұрын
I remember the J35 from when I was a kid. They literally shook the house when they flew over. They are very loud and makes an awesome sound. Too bad there are so few of them left.
@Le-Cardinal
@Le-Cardinal Жыл бұрын
A neighbour of mine had to climb up a tree to retrieve his flag which was blown off the flagpole. He never found the knob at the end of the flagpole.
@bassobalalaikka5005
@bassobalalaikka5005 Жыл бұрын
great video at 3:53 a "bandopptakter 2" looks fairly similar to Tandberg model 3 magnetophone, (reel to reel of course) maybe it is an early data recorder of voltage to frequency sensors.
@jongee2230
@jongee2230 Жыл бұрын
Since I was a kid I always loved military aircraft and in the sixties this is one of my favorites.
@nunyabusiness4651
@nunyabusiness4651 Жыл бұрын
The Drakken was definitely a design ahead of its time. Some planes are Iconic but this might be the best fighter that any European country ever produced and that's saying a lot!
@atlet1
@atlet1 Жыл бұрын
You are probably right. This wast the best fighter in the world at it's time. M2+, super cruise, STOL, high agility, data link, low logistics footprint, made for network centric warfare. It was at least 30 years before it's time.
@tor2919
@tor2919 11 ай бұрын
Aye, although I’d put the Mirage up there. French fighters are incredible
@Mr.Flemen
@Mr.Flemen Жыл бұрын
saab is realy good at comming up with clever designs to solve problems or challenges. that goes for the entore company, not just aircrafts. I have had two 1st gen 9-5 sedans. love those cars for the little details like the key down by the handbreake and the nightpanel that makes driving long in the dark so much better.
@jerrysmith1887
@jerrysmith1887 Жыл бұрын
The 9-5 was a General Motors bastard child POS. The 900 was the last of the real Saabs. You got lucky if you actually had a good 9-5. You would know what a turd they were if you would have owned a 900.
@JH-lo9ut
@JH-lo9ut Жыл бұрын
Sorry to tell you that saab aero and saab automobile parted ways long before the 9-5. They were two completely separate companies by then. I believe Saab 9000 was the last of the last car completely designed by Saab automobile before they were acquired by GM, and much of the development was moved from Sweden. With that said, I like the late Saabs too, and they carry along a lot of the design quirks and technical innovations that is typical for the brand. My dad always drove Saabs and I do miss them as a brand. I would very much be interested in something like the 900 but with modern fuel economy, or why not electric.
@Mr.Flemen
@Mr.Flemen Жыл бұрын
@@JH-lo9ut right, i forgott about that. But as you said, some of the "design philosophy" stayed after GM acquired Saab automobil.
@pederfallbom
@pederfallbom Жыл бұрын
​@@JH-lo9ut All development of Saab cars was made in Trollhättan Sverige. Even after GM got ownership.
@JH-lo9ut
@JH-lo9ut Жыл бұрын
@@pederfallbom Hey that's great I didn't know that. I heard so much about GM killing the brand and people saying those late models aren't "real Saabs" so I guess I got the facts wrong.
@wadebaker8481
@wadebaker8481 Жыл бұрын
A beautiful Aircraft, it is on my to buy list when in hit the power ball LOL, I could never get tired of looking at it
@DuneRunnerEnterprises
@DuneRunnerEnterprises Жыл бұрын
Interesting,thank you!!!
@HephaestusSystems
@HephaestusSystems Жыл бұрын
Swedish engineering is great. Not afraid to think outside the box and it has always produced impressive performance regardless of the industry
@stilllearning1160
@stilllearning1160 Жыл бұрын
Yes. I'm Australian and I'm ashamed at how we have twice the population of Sweden and more resources than you can wish for (certainly more than Sweden and a more pleasant climate and we hardly build anything at all.
@Kpar512
@Kpar512 Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing this jet in various books when it came out. I thought it was one of the most beautiful fighters ever built.
@redblade8160
@redblade8160 Жыл бұрын
Kirk Parro. Those planes look clunky.
@Kpar512
@Kpar512 Жыл бұрын
@@redblade8160 BY modern standards, perhaps, but back in the Sixties, this was a radical design.
@redblade8160
@redblade8160 Жыл бұрын
@@Kpar512 I saw better looking aircrafts on "Thunderbirds" and that was in the sixties!
@HelloFellowHooman
@HelloFellowHooman Жыл бұрын
If you've owned a Saab car, you know weird designs are their bread and butter.
@derekporter7658
@derekporter7658 Жыл бұрын
This was always an aeroplane on my to see list,,,,seen it a few times now and still think it's a fantastic design. Well done SAAB.
@pinkyellowblue007
@pinkyellowblue007 Жыл бұрын
It's one of the most interesting designs, I haven't found much info on it's dogfighting capabilities in books.
@jtjames79
@jtjames79 Жыл бұрын
I love how retro sci-fi/anime it looks.
@ILoveFishinginWi
@ILoveFishinginWi Жыл бұрын
​@@jtjames79 it looks nothing like anime
@Tigerhat3r
@Tigerhat3r Жыл бұрын
@@ILoveFishinginWi fr
@jtjames79
@jtjames79 Жыл бұрын
@@ILoveFishinginWi Okay anime looks like it. Robotech has a Draken III, it turns into a robot. I just googled it.
@RundFyrkant
@RundFyrkant Жыл бұрын
I grew up close to a Swedish Airbase in the 80s and saw Draken and Viggen in the air every week. Still very unique looking, and beutiful aircraft. Thanks for the video!
@irishpsalteri
@irishpsalteri Жыл бұрын
Thanks, didn't know about this design.
@WillYouVid
@WillYouVid Жыл бұрын
Ferranti, the company that did the air-to-air fire control system that you mention at 2/3 of the video, is a strange company with great beginnings and a shady story and ending that you really could make a video about!
@richardosman897
@richardosman897 Жыл бұрын
Ferranti
@neilmchardy9061
@neilmchardy9061 Жыл бұрын
How the cobra manoeuvre doesn’t stall the compressor is beyond me. There’s a big puff of smoke when it does it.
@JosephDawson1986
@JosephDawson1986 Жыл бұрын
You have to quickly run the engine power down to idle, Pull the nose up, then drop it and throttle up I would guess. I mean thats how the Cobra maneuver is done in the F14 Tomcat
@ricdale7813
@ricdale7813 Жыл бұрын
That Thing looked like it was out of Battlestar Gallactica but before BattleStar Galactica was even a thing. Bad Ass!
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