Honestly they should’ve just straight up called it *” Wade & Knuckles”* the “& Knuckles” part granting the writers meme points and not false advertising it as Knuckles’ show where people say he cameos in it.

Can't wait for next year,, Why Knuckles the show is actually genius ".

I was excited for the show but it just makes no sense at all. The main villain doesn't even have anything against Knuckles, he just somehow has his quills and wants him dead when he very clearly described Sonic as the reason for his failures

I don't know what "Knuckles Show" you're talking about. This is CLEARLY the Wade Show

Paramount CEO: "Sorry, Knuckles. “I'm afraid to say it's not 1994 anymore. These days Sonic fans don't care about unique settings and childish animal characters. They want relatable Earth problems and bumbling human OCs and F**k You, you want a chicken nugget!?”

3 of my kids are 10 and under and they kept asking me “Where is Knuckles?” And they didn’t even stay around for the season finale. This was a missed opportunity.

Wanda: You gonna go rescue him? Knuckles: No, this show is too expensive.

"Knuckles is wearing the OVA hat! The fans will love this!"

Every company is like "How can we make a movie franchise and streaming show" not "Should we make a movie franchise and streaming show?"

I’ve never stared so blank-face at a tv for over an hour

The biggest problem is the marketing was a lie. It made it look like the focus was on knuckles when it was on wade

At this point I wouldn't even consider whether the show or not is bad on it's own merits. It's moreso the principle of the people who greenlight these shows fundamentally misunderstanding what fans of this property they're adapting actually want from it. They've been doing it for decades! The Transformers Movie; starring some human randos with special guest stars, the Transformers! Alvin and the Chimpunks; staring Jason fucking Lee and his career troubles. The Smurfs: What do you mean you don't care about Neil Patrick Harris' relationship issues? There's changing certain aspects of an existing property to better fit a different medium than it's origins and then there's using said media property to try and uplift your shitty sitcom script no one wanted to buy. That "Surf Dracula" tweet is evergreen; "back in the day if u did a tv show called surf dracula you'd see that fool surfing every week in new adventures but in the streaming era the entire 1st season gotta be a long ass flashback to how he got the surfboard until you finally get to see him surf for 5 min in the finale" I watched the Sonic movie to see SONIC. I watched Knuckles to see KNUCKLES. Why is this so hard to understand? But all those movies I listed still did gangbusters so maybe I'm just an idiot who doesn't know how the hollywood money machine works.

There were some neat moments, good action and some jokes that actually landed but as a piece of Sonic media? This fails miserably. Also no Knuck If You Buck or even Unknown from M.E. in the show proper was just shameful. Knuckles deserves far better than buddy comedy schlock.

Kind of bummed that we’re skipping Chaos entirely. How cool would it be to see this Knuckles, who more than the original holds his clan in a high place of reverence as an honorable warrior clan, be shown the darker side of the Echidnas and set loose a monster bent on revenge for what the Echidnas did, now freed after the Master Emerald shattered in the second movie would be cool. But because Chaos and SA1 aren’t really popular compared to Shadow and SA2, we’re just going to skip that.

Everyone's perception of this show entirely depends on how they feel about wade and him taking over as the main character. If you don't like wade, you're probably not going to like this series.

Paramount: "Our customers only care about human characters." Knuckles fans: "Are we a joke to you!?"

“Six episode event” is corporate talk for “2 hour movie extended to six episodes.”

Knuckles deserve better, especially since this is his 30th Anniversary! 😑

i am just disappointed they didn't include greg the second (wade's WACKY cousin). really shows how little this show cares about the fans...

OH NO!

Between Knuckles Chaotix being clearly unfinished and on the 32X, the Penders-helmed Archie comic series and now this, I'm starting to think any Knuckles-focused media is just cursed

I find wade endearing despite the shows flaws. The show could use more knuckles but its not like he is nowhere in the show at all. If anyone went in expecting a suprise chaotix reveal or like next to no humans I think you should temper your expectations. It advertised a buddy comedy between wade and knuckles and thats what it delivered. As a show in that regard I think its fine enough. Good news is that since this is a paramount show with a lower budget and next to no effect on characterization. It more than likely wont affect anything about sonic 3. I still say this show shouldve been 2d animated because then there wouldnt have to be as much focus on wade and knuckles would be less expensive to animate, allowing him more screentime.

Personally i really liked it but i get peoples complaints. Wanda absolutely sucks though

This show is just like the franchise. Potential to be great, but somehow ruined because the people behind it don't know what made things work. Only reason I had to sit through it all was because I had to do a review on it 4:53 YES. THANK YOU!!

What a shame, especially considering how well the movies worked

I forced myself to sit through Sonic Prime for some reason. I don’t think I’ll be doing that for this one

did you catch all the knuckles cameos in the wade show guys

I'm sure this is already one of those were people go "HEEYYYY! I liked this show! It was fun!" But was this the show you really wanted to see though? Was an entire show about a man-child's wacky family issues with a bowling competition you really wanted to see for a Knuckles show or did you just like it because it had Sonic's brand on it? And I went into this with an open mind, I didn't go into this with the expectations of what hardcore fans imagined the show being like, but it has all the tropes of a bad 2000s live action movie based on a cartoon with too much pop culture references, celebrate references, characters talking the same and a severe lack of focus on the title character.

Man, the group I watched this with made me feel like I was on psych meds. They loved it, and I was bored and frustrated with the constant 80s music, Wade being a manchild, and Knuckles being pushed to the side.

“Take aim at your pins and… *knuckles shatters the glass in the pin area with the bowling ball*”

This was Sonic Forces all over again with false advertising to the max. it wasn’t the Knuckles show, it was the Wade & Knuckles show.

i hate, hate, HATE it when shows/movies do this. since transformers (maybe earlier) they keep putting the titular character as background. as spoony once said; "how hard is it to make the main character, the main character?!" I knew the moment i heard that wade was going to be in it tha it was automaticaly going to be painfully bad. i didn't like any of his scenes in the movies and thought he ruined a pretty nice scene with his 'joke'.

To me personally, the Knuckles show should've actually focused on the Echidna himself instead of having Wade join along.

My mother theorizes that some writer or producer or someone used Knuckles as a vessel to express their own issues. Why yet another bowling tournament story with daddy issues and 80s hits she remembers from her 20s? Even she would have been more interested in the red cartoon animal.

When you think of knuckles you dont see him bowling with wade

This isn't even a bad Sonic show, its just a bad show

Still better than Sonic Prime. And that's saying a lot cause I'd rather watch Underground over Prime.

One major thing that caught me off guard when watching this show was the Inclusion of Iblis and the Flames Of Disaster. That was the first time In official Sonic media we ever heard of Iblis In over 18 years. That was really the only thing that stuck with me after watching this.

I… Liked it…

I really hate that these Sonic adaptations just can't let the Sonic characters stand out on their own. They always need to bounce off of someone else or partner up with them, instead of just letting the Knuckles show or Sonic movies be, well... The KNUCKLES show or SONIC movies. Wade is such a nothing character and I didn't care for the cop either(don't remember his name).

Bruh, the Wade scenes was basically the wedding scene from Sonic 2, but worse. This is the problem. We don't need to waste time on the human characters as they don't really add anything to the story we are actually interested in seeing... y'know, the Sonic Adventures where it's him and his friends in their world. The studios need to learn that we only came to see those type of adventures rather than a cringe comedy fest.

What's scary is that this series is actualy making them money. Who knows what kind of negative effect this'll have on the series as whole long term.

This show started out strong, but once I learned that this show wasn’t about Knuckles, it went all downhill from here. What a waste of peoples time while they’re waiting for Sonic 3.

This show was genuinely one of the most boring experiences I've had in a long time. The biggest issue I have is that I feel like this show has no idea who it's supposed to be for.

Ls mark must be insane lmao

I thought it was pretty bad but whenever the camera was on Knuckles it was awesome.

They did the Chaotix thing where they just slapped Knuckles's name on the front, despite not being the main character.

The stuff with Wade's mum and Knuckles was honestly my favourite part of the show, their dynamic was just really sweet. It's a shame Wanda was there to ruin literally everything

this show is pure agony coming from a major sonic d rider. i will defend 06 with my life but this show makes me feel incredibly suicidal. i am a firm believer that punishment can never be taken too far depending on the crime, with a child molester there is no limit to punishment. i believe the death sentence is too lenient and think people are bullshitting when they say "i wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy" but i truly do not wish this show on my worst enemy. there is NO demographic for this.

Can’t imagine if the show called Knuckles didn’t have knuckles as the main character of the knuckles show that’s literally advertised as being about knuckles with knuckles in the knuckles show that’s intention was to go over the character of knuckles

Paul Blart Mall Cop 2 is unironically one of my favorite movies of all time

Who the hell let Wade hijack the whole damn show. This was pain and cringe, oh my god! I just wanted to shut off the TV as fast as possible!

4:28 Well Echidnas in the old Sonic Comic are well versed in A holocaust sooo it's not completly out of nowhere...

The final battle of this show was just a alternate version of the final battle in the first movie. Show: The show has Knuckles knocked out while Wade gives an emotional speech about how Knuckles is his friend and that gives him the power to wake up, take back his power and just full on demolish the Buyer. Sonic Movie 1: Robotnik had wounded Sonic badly and Tom fights Robotnik and then goes on to deliver a speech about how Sonic's home was Green Hills and that gives Sonic the power to wake up, take back his power and just full on demolish Robotnik before exiling him to the Mushroom Planet.

Idk bro I thought it was cute

Gonna have to disagree. I love this series. I kind like that they focused on Wade, he's one of my favorite side characters and I like that they fleshed him out. The animation's as good as the movies, idris Elba's Knuckles is always a win, and his and Wade's dynamic is hilarious. People just need to stop judging stuff based on what they were expecting rather than what they got, because what we got, is a pretty good time.

I was also disappointed with the show, for a show called “knuckles” you expect it to be abt him but it’s not and you can clearly tell in episode 4 they were running low on budget, I don’t hate wade but I wanna see knuckles not a tv show abt some idiot. At least Sonic 3 isn’t gonna be like this cause in the end this is just filler but not good filler so

I swear if this show is anything to go by, they better not have such a focus on human characters in Sonic 3 unless it's about Maria and Gerald Robotnik. I dont want another repeat of that whole wedding segement from Sonic 2 either.

This is why the sonic movie should be animated

First episode was the only good episode

Nearly everything you said was how I thought LS Mark was gonna say about "Knuckles," especially knowing how much of a certified Sonic fan he is... But *no.* Thanks, J.👍🏻

While there were a few elements that I liked, it was very obvious while watching that this was done by a different writing team than the movies I’ve seen people compare this to the wedding scene from the second movie, but at least that sequence heavily involved the movies’ take on G.U.N (plus it was honestly funnier than the human shenanigans in this show, and it was mainly to break up the main action between the snowboard sequence and the Labyrinth Zone fight just a little bit for pacing reasons)

They could've have Knuckles fight against Rouge for possession of the Master Emerald. They could've have Knuckles take on rogue GUN agents with help from the Chaotix. They could've have Knuckles come face to face with the dark side of his tribe with Chaos. But no. They had Knuckles help some schmuck win a bowling tourament. EDIT: I believe we owe Ken Penders an apology.

So, it’s essentially that scorned bride scene in Sonic 2 where it briefly derails from the main characters and feels like a different movie. Except that it's elongated from a few minutes to over an hour (if not more). And not as funny (at least the scene I mentioned was amusing on its own). I just hope that Sonic 3 won't share the same quality as this product...

It could’ve had more knuckles but the last two episodes were definitely the worst…well at least there’s shadow in the third movie.

Hey J, what's your thoughts on Keanu Reeves voicing Shadow in Sonic Movie 3?

This easily had by far the worst human characters in series. Makes me believe that Arlo was probably right. Sonic is better off with very little humans. And this is coming from someone who likes the Adventure games, unleashed and Sonic X.

This isn't even bad, let alone shameful.

I hope at least they use this show as set up an adventure where knuckles relizes the truth behind Pachacamac's lies and Pachacamac is reveal to be the cold hearted, power hungry warlord we know him as.

Knuckles TV: But Knuckles isn't the viewpoint most of the time. Touhou Foul Detective Satori: First time?

I think the reason why the show was so inconsistent was because they had different writers for each episode, and they must not have tried to sync up their styles.

imagine calling it the knuckles show when knuckles isn't even the main focus for like most of the episodes

C'mon, man... Sonic 3 is going to further establish Shadow as a Biff from Back to the Future style moronic bully type character. You know how this works by now...

Why bowling? Like they could have at least had the character be a BOXER. You know, because it’s Knuckles

This definitely felt like the "Wade Show Featuring Knuckles." And all that promotion and advertising made us assume it would focus more on "Knuckles."

Personally i loved this show

I liked it🫤

I’m a Jewish Sonic fan so the third episode was the high point of the whole show for me. I didn’t get the knuckles show that I wanted but let me tell you I got something I didn’t know I wanted from that episode

The best part of the show was when they had the balls to reference Iblis from Sonic 0 fucking 6 and made him a joke. That part was admittedly hilarious and really cool

The first two episodes were good and my fav but the rest was crap. There are two reasons that makes this series suck a bit more, one is the title, they know that wade is basically the main character so why would they name it knuckles? At least name it Knuckles & Wade series or something but just knuckles is so false. Second reason is wade's family, i wouldn't have mind if he just stop by to say "hi' or something and left but after episode 3 they are suddenly apart of the rest of the series and that throws me off, it would've been so much better if the father , mother and b*tch sister was not an add on to the rest of the story, cause now its not even the Knuckles & Wade series its Knuckles & Family series. I just really hate how they also focused more on the family than knuckles. Tho i am glad that knuckles looks a lot happier cause he has been though tough sh*t for decades and he needs a hug. I am only simping for knuckles the rest of the cast i could care less about. Bye.

Knuckles learning about Judaism wasn't something I ever expected to see. Certainly subverted my expectations

the fact that there's even debates over the legitimacy of a tv show that makes the title character the sidekick of an incompetent comic relief character who isn't even from the games and makes the whole story revolve around his generic 'family comedy from 2007' plotline proves this fandom is lost in the sauce.

My only two problems were Wade is already the loser character who has a great arc but since they had to make his sister more unlikeable than him they went the extra two miles for her. Also the flames of disaster are not knuckles powers or source. So weird for them to pick that

Its probably because I had 0 expectations, but I honestly didn't think it was that bad. Mainly two because I already have the pieces of Sonic media I like and can go back to so I don't need this Knuckles show to be the greatest piece of fiction of all time. What I have personally learned about Sonic media is really just don't go in expecting the greatest thing ever. The old memories and enjoyment of enjoying the older media will never come back with the new stuff. Not even trying to be cynical or anything but I think its just kind of the truth. I mean I will admit I was hoping for a lot of stuff in the Knuckles show but also at the same time its the Sonic Movie universe, its for the casuals and not the fans. Not sayin the fans can't enjoy them but like its not going to be what we all want it to be, and thats personally something I'm content with.

The whole teaching knuckles about Jewish culture and comparing fate of echidnas to holocaust was straight out of Ken Penders.

dang. just hope sonic 3 is good. also, completely unrelated topic, but, what's gonna happen to mmx7 n's edition?

Ive been waiting for you to discuss the OVA since you mentioned it in the Riders video 😞

I liked the show

Bro really dislikes the knuckles show. 😢

I really hate that people are defending it by saying "why can't you guys be happy? It's a fun silly show and that's all it was trying to be" because that shouldn't BE all it's trying to be. It SHOULD be good, and it SHOULD be a good show about Knuckles. The only case in this series where I'll say that the defenders truly are just settling for mediocrity.

Personally I loved the show. I can look at its faults, like knuckles not even being fully in its own show, or how the plot is generic. But I feel like Wade and knuckles’ dynamic was entertaining and how the show was an entertaining fever dream. Also knuckles looks as good as movies.

This is is truly one of the shows of all time

I knew they should've made it about Coldsteel The Hedgehog! 😤

Are they trying to make a mockery of Knuckles by surrounding him with stuff that the great majority of the audience won't find any relevance in?

... surprised nobody at Paramount has attempted to use the excuse of "we didn't want Ken Penders to show up" for this show...

This is a rare occasion where I strongly disagree with J because I loved this show it had fun with itself and was genuinely enjoyable

This is one of the most Braindead shows I’ve ever seen, without a doubt one of the worst Sonic things I’ve ever seen. Not the absolute worst, it’s not Sonic Free Riders or Secret Rings, that Tartarus levels of bad.

This is the first time i have heard about a Knuckles show…

I liked it but I can see why people might not like it at best and hate at worst I like it because I'm easily entertained.

Glad I'm not the only one Everyone seems to be loving this absolute slop Genuinely one of the worst things to come out of the franchise imo