And now it's back in GT7.

I'm looking at my 2.5 in my truck getting way to many ideas now

@@SnowFoxMediatt do it

I've been racing it in gt7, online sport dailies gr 4. it sounds amazing. When I saw the 12k redline I was like I have to look that up l.

@@fritzkaraldo8452 revving to 12k rpm ❤️

156 coloni S1 sounds even better IMO.

There are many great souding v6 engines, it's just the v6 "muscle cars" that give them a bad rep.

Yawn

Someone once had a bmw 2002 turbo. He let the engine block sit outside for five years before working over the iron block. Apparently once he had the engine working he had it reving up to 15,000 rpms and over 1000 hp. I don’t know truth behind the story but a mechanic I use to know told me about it.

@@kevinW826 thats back in the old 1500cc f1 times. They pushed 1500hp 4cyl.

@@upnorthviking823 apparently this guy wasn’t a race car driver. It was for a daily driver. And it was a street legal 1973 2.0 turbo

@@kevinW826 hes not the only one...race engine shop i worked at also kept old iron blocks outside...pissing on them so they rust more.. They are better to build then new green blocks that will move/change tolerances.

Kreidler Van Veen 20 000 rpm. Vérify !

In fact the technology was just on par with formula 1 of the same time. In addition, the alpha engine was really superfine and the sound is obviously thanks to the absence of the turbo 😂

if im right the f1 cars with the turbos was a v6 making about 900hp

It's definitely got that V10 era noise about it.

@@bjornlauret4205 800-1000

@@guidolavespa303 iīķķl

I smashed endurance races in that beast! This quad pipes 😍

except this engine is unrelated

@sw4gr1d well they couldn't win from the Alfa , so nope you are wrong sir

@sw4gr1d nah

@sw4gr1d Nope, you cannot turn an absolute into a relative.

@@danimal7913 The M3 and the w201 were modified street cars, while the Alfa only resembels it's street legal counterpart in appearance.

True

Absolutely! 😎

But its raspier

It really doesn't.

The exhaust note is raspy in comparison. But they were talking about the on board sound, in which it does sound like the modern V6 F1 engines. Think about it, they're both V6s spinning at 12k rpm lol

Like 20 yrs ago

puoi dirlo forte

Alfa Romeo could easly return back to F1 as an engine supplier this time

Yesssss

1990 Autodelta, abbiamo lavorato molto perché il monoblocco PRV era adatto come geometria e ribusto

Sounds like it's odd firing and the PRV V6 was too.

in reality it didn't even have the PRV block, but only the measurements. the regulations stipulated that the engines used for the DTM had to come from the series. but what should have been used from the standard engine? if the engine was a 4 or 6 cylinder in line, the same distance between the cylinders had to be respected, while if it was a v6 engine, the distance between the cylinders and the same angle between the cylinder banks had to be respected. essentially, the engines had nothing from the standard ones, but only respected these 2 parameters. When Alfa Romeo entered the world championship in 1993, it was equipped with a 60-degree 2.5-liter V6, derived from its Busso V6 engine. this engine had a very high rotation speed, which could reach peaks of 12,000 rpm, while the Mercedes engine stopped at 9,500 rpm. this allowed the Alfa v6 to develop 50hp (420hp - latest evolution 450hp) more than the second most powerful engine on the grid. obviously the Germans did not stand by and began to develop engines that could compete with the Italian V6. for the 1996 championship, Alfa decided to develop a new engine. the technicians discovered that a 90 degree configuration of the v would open the way to a series of advantages in both power and size. the problem was that Alfa Romeo had never produced V6 engines with a 90 degree angle, but had produced V8 engines at 90 degrees, so it was decided to use the Montreal V8, but this had too small a distance between the cylinders and was not suitable to future developments. checking the documents, it was discovered that for a few years, Alfa Romeo was the owner of Lancia and the Lancia Thema model was equipped with the V6 90 degrees PRV. therefore, in its history, Alfa Romeo had also produced Lancia cars and this allowed it to use the measurements of the PRV engine. consequently for the 96 season, 2 new engines were approved, one derived from the V8 Montreal and the other derived from the V6 PRV, but only the second was used in the race. the new engine developed a power of 500hp, but arrived in the cars after the season had already begun.

I mean this was a hugely overengineered engine

BTCC was also epic back then.

@@Squidgy55 true true!!! Legendary fights on the track and lots of brands!!

Modern F1 literally sounds just like this. Especially the Ferrari V6 engine. It just a bit "muted" because of the turbocharger. The cylinder bank design defines the noise mostly. This is why a 20k RPM inline-5 would sound like a V10 F1 engine. Same reason as why a high revving inline-4 sounds like a V8.

@@xynostasos9022 No it doesn't sound like this cause it's not allowed. His comment stays true, wish F1 would sound good again cause it fucking doesn't.

@@Ardonn Listen side by side. Today's F1 makes almost the same noise as this high revving Alfa V6. Exhaust piping and turbocharger is why F1 sounds like "vacuum cleaner". Go and listen to some 16k RPM inline-5 Audi engine and u will understand what I mean.

@@xynostasos9022 yeap you are right

@@Ardonn "its not allowed" what are you on about? f1 cars are so loud everyone near them needs to wear earplugs

As an italian...sono d’accordo! Alfa arte su ruote!

There was one available back in the day...... Alfa even had an option for the street cars of having a livery design adhered from the factory in the style of the red cars.

Yeah they use an formula 1 v6 engine straight from a f1 car

@@garrettreyna7760 They did not use a F1 engine. At all.

You rev that high if a turbo is not an option.

It is not a Busso in the 155 DTM. It' s a V6 PRV bloc ( 90 degrees instead of 60 for the Busso) because of problems of vibrations. At 12 000, the V6 90 was better.

@@piotrgodyn6870 Well, as far as I know the Busso was used in the -94 and -95 DTM editions. Then they replaced it with the Lancia V6 for the reasons you mention. Please correct me if I´m wrong!

Heartbreaking...

Well that sucks.

That would be the earlier 155 GTA, this one has a longitudinal V6 :)

No. Not at all. Integrale powertrain was the 155 Q4, transversale engine, 4x4. In the DTM they always run longitudinal mounted v6 engines. Various models (60, 75, 90 degree v6s). Davide Cironi has an hour long video about it, including intervirews with all the big dogs of Alfa Romeo from that area. Have a look at it. (Italian with english subtitle)

@@istvanburuzs9843 great video

@@istvanburuzs9843 You are correct about the engines however the powertrain was basically a modified Lancia S4

@@altergreenhorn abosolutely not. S4 was a mid-engine, this is a front-engine.

@@maestro6512 what are you even talking about ? F1 engines are totally different and those are hybrid engines.

@@maestro6512 SAME sound,different exhaust...you dont make sense bud

@@DevilWolf000 Listen to onboard, it's the same. And of course it is. Same firing order, etc. Btw even exhaust note is largely identical. Difference is outboard induction noise, which a turbo can't have.

@@DevilWolf000 He's not saying they are the same engine, more that they sound very similar. Only difference is the induction (no turbo here) and hybrid harvesting and delivery sound.

The Ferrari F2005 is what F1 is supposed to sound like

Probably.

BMW drivers

lmao yea

Hopefully they will in 2026 when F1 removes the Mgu-h from the cars, that should let the engines roar louder.

What do you mean by "forget about V6"? This is a V6, am i misunderstanding you?

But better

@@TAS123hahaha agreed 👍🏼

watch the M6 GT3 Engine fitting. that´s pretty similar.

@@J4FTobinator 30 years later...

Have you looked at a subaru engine bay?

@@procrastinator1842 thats a boxer engine though, not a v6.

😂I thought it was mid engine at first it was so low! then i saw the head 😲

Flupy paddles

Telepathically

@@commandergeokam2868 not a flappy paddle, a sequential transmission. A flappy paddle is a fake paddle shifter in a regular torque converter automatic……there is a HUGE difference

@@JustinSeara By flappy paddles i mean dct and yes i know the difference between the sequencial and the dct

Looks like left hand does the shifting.

Sulla pista Fanelli di Torricella, bisogna farla correre, bisogna organizzare un po' di movimento la, (PANDEMIA PERMETTENDO) saluti da OSTUNI Puglia Maurizio.

No it does not it’s far better