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Left shoulder guy was better 😂

Glad to hear it

Thanks. That's funny, because I was just talking with Josh about the music selection. He does a great job. And we agree with you.

Thanks, man.

Cheers. Thank you.

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That's real cool. Thank you.

he's pretty good

I love those experiences.

Thank you.

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My Mom is Italian. So I learned to talk with my hands a lot. :-) Cheers.

Glad to hear that. Yeah, I think some anglers and instructors don't acknowledge the complexity of nymphing -- or dry fly fishing and streamers, for that matter. Fishing can be approached very simply. Or you can really dig into the details and approach it technically. Tight line tactics are easily the most complex, simply because we're in control of everything all the way through -- if we want to be. Cheers.

Thanks. That's a tough thing to do, but we're getting better at it.

Good stuff

Thanks much

Thanks

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Thanks for your comment. Attempts to simplify something like nymphing always fall short for me. I learned that back in 2014 when I started writing articles on the topic. The same holds true with these videos. This one tackles just one topic but still leaves a lot unsaid, relying on the bulk of other Troutbitten resources to fill in those gaps. (Many are linked within the video.) So the flies do sink best when there is no tension on them. And lifting does that best -- better than pure line hand -- but there is always some influence from our tippet over the fly. Call it tension or something else, but that influence is always there, so we try to minimize it. I disagree that when we get to depth we want to "tension up" the line. Honestly, sometimes yes and sometimes no. But as I said in the video, I find it works best to simply think about helping them not to drop anymore. Also, lifting does not mean you'll end up with a high rod position. Sometimes we only need to lift a half foot, and the flies will be down. And you might land with a pretty low rod angle to begin with, then only lift a foot. But I definitely agree that more sail in the air is a bad thing in the wind, and in that case, I'd use more line hand than a lift -- sometimes. :-) Like you said, keeping that rod low in the wind matters a lot, but we can use a small leift too Ultimately, there are a thousand variables that dictate what works for each situation. That's just another example of the complexity that keeps these things from being simple. When talking about this stuff, I often mention that nymphing doesn't HAVE to be approached with complexity. We can go out there, make a cast, drift the fly and probably catch some trout. But at its heart, the act of trying to get natural drifts under the surface, with an unseen fly attached to a line in mixed currents is pretty complex. And a lot of us like that challenge too. Cheers. Dom

Hi dom thanks for the reply. You right in terms of line tension affecting the fly drift. I have heard of the "effect of lowering the flies" into the river as a concept as well. This lowers French leader tension as the rod tip drops flies drop to the bottom. By the same token have also seen a very agesssive steeped down leader and shorter tippet section. You make agesssive up stream casts stopping the flies instantly shooting them into the water so they sink to the bottom faster. For me this meothod does work but takes practice and time to develop confidence in it. Essentially euro nymphing is get tungsten weighted flies down to the bottom of the river hopefully in a feeding chanel. Then contol the flies under some.... Tension until the flies surface due to river water friction. Suppose the other factor is water dpeth. Water 3 ft or less fish one or 2 flys for water that's 5-9 ft then I fish 3 flies to get down

Right on. And thank you. I think you'll see the line a lot in the Fish Along series that I'm working on. But I will say, for tight line tactics, that is always very hard to pull off. Need the right line and the right light angles.

@@TroutbittenI totally agree. it is tough to pull off. You guys look like you might have the team to do it. Usually, it takes a large screen TV and high resolution to see and then it is hit and miss. thanks again.

I agree with you. And it's kind of sad that people fish split shot less and less. Unweighted flies with split shot absolutely fools more trout in many scenarios. What you described is perfect. Let the shot touch and take the abuse, and the nymphs can ride clean around and above that shot. There's a lot more to it, of course. And many times, the better choice is weighted flies. Here are a couple Troutbitten resources for you, about my use of split shot: ARTICLE: Split Shot vs Weighted Flies troutbitten.com/2017/01/26/split-shot-vs-weighted-flies/ ARTICLE: Are Light Nymphs More Effective? Is Less Weight More Natural? troutbitten.com/2022/08/17/are-light-nymphs-more-effective-is-less-weight-more-natural/ ARTICLE: Fly Fishing Strategies: No Limits - Fish every type of weight available troutbitten.com/2018/02/21/fly-fishing-strategies-no-limits-fish-every-type-weight-available/ VIDEO: Don’t Hate Split Shot - Have a System (with VIDEO) troutbitten.com/2022/07/13/dont-hate-split-shot-have-a-system-with-video/ PODCAST: Weight In Fly Fishing: Beads, Shot, Sinking Lines and More - S5, Ep4 troutbitten.com/2022/10/23/podcast-weight-in-fly-fishing-beads-shot-sinking-lines-and-more-s5-ep4/ Let me know if that helps you out. Cheers. Dom

The system you are describing: "using split shot as terminal dropper with nymphs on tags above" is just drop-shot nymphing. Dom has written about it, and Kelly Galloup has a couple of old videos on KZfaq describing it in detail.

Yes. I'm working into it with the Shorts. Cheers.

Thanks for the kind words. Here's the wading staff video. Can't beat this system.. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qbCKZsKGqtnKYo0.html

@Troutbitten .. Thank you friend!!

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@@ghice64 Sure thing.

Do it

@@Troutbitten would you combine the technique of lifting and stripping line to achieve that bed drift as well?

Thank you. Yes, I think we all make that mistake sometimes. What do you mean by setup?

Rod, reel, line combo?

Hey, thank you! Yes, we call it a golden ratio. And yes, it would pass you 10 feet away. But I wouldn't do that in most situations, because you'd be spooking trout that close, beside them. Not behind them, though. Basically, I'm not a big believer in swinging it past my position anyway. But if they want to eat that look, then I'll cast outside the golden ratio. Make sense?

I was looking for a relative distance. Not necessarily presentation. Your answer is exactly what I was looking for. However, I do use the swing through often where I fish. Our local warm waters are deep and fast and not wadeable. We tight line for drum, catfish, spots, and white bass to practice nymphing from the bank. Not ideal for sure but it works. Our closest trout waters are 5.5 to 6.5 hours from here and we only get to go a couple of times a year. I really wish we were closer to you. You're 17 hours from us. Give or take. I'd book a trip in a heartbeat. For anyone who is within striking distance of you guys, I highly recommend they book a trip with one of you. Thank you so much for all you do for the sport. It really means a lot to those of us who don't have easy access to your type of waters but wish we did.

Thanks. That's very cool.

Hey now

Honestly, no. It's not similar at all. This is a much, much lighter rig. 50cg starts to be a little heavy. We're also trying to not touch the bottom. And we're not using an indy. There are dozens of ways to reach fish with an offering that gets low. But what I'm describing with this approach is not very similar to drift fishing for steelhead. That's a great tactic, but for clarity, this is very different.

Thanks. Glad you connected with the video. I think what you're seeing is just the velcro band on the staff. I will say too, that with the Gear Keeper at the back part of my hip, with NO slack in the connection, it never gets in my way -- and I mean never -- as long as I'm wading upstream, which I do 95 percent of the time. Cheers.

Hi there. I'm happy to help. Troutbitten is a DEEP resource, with a ton of info spread across different platforms. I always provide links and companion articles that contain even more applicable links to these videos. The Troutbitten website is the heart of the Troutbitten Project. Two articles you need are here: troutbitten.com/2021/09/22/the-best-fly-rods-for-the-mono-rig-and-euro-nymphing-my-favorite-rods/ troutbitten.com/2021/09/22/the-best-fly-rods-for-the-mono-rig-and-euro-nymphing-my-favorite-rods/ You'll find that I'm not a big believer in "nymphing" rods. I strongly prefer a rod that does a bunch of things very well. Luckily, there's not much difference in my preferences for what a dry fly rod should do and a tight line nymphing rod. All of that is in the articles. Have fun out there!

@@Troutbitten thanks man! Really appreciate your kind advice and will read the articles... thanks

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Thanks for your question. There's a lot to that answer. Here's a full article that I published to help you out. troutbitten.com/2018/06/26/nymphing-tight-line-vs-indicator/

Thanks for pointing me to the article. It answered my questions and more

Hey. Now.

Respectfully, yes, you're doing it wrong. 99 percent of your fish are coming below you because everything is dragging on the way down. Work on that cast and then STICK THE LANDING. Here's the article for that: troutbitten.com/2021/07/12/3-sticking-the-landing-nine-essential-skills-for-tight-line-and-euro-nymphing/ There's a podcast too. Sticking the Landing is part of the Nine Essential Skills of Tight Line and Euro Nymphing Series on Troutbitten. If you work through that series, I promise it'll help you out. Remember that no lone should land on the water at all, let alone 10-15 feet. We use these rigs for the tight line advantage. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/erx5ecKK29SsaGw.html Dig into those resources. You'll get great drifts with just a few adjustments. Cheers.

@@Troutbitten I did exactly that and it has helped. Thank you I appreciate your response

Hi there. Good timing. Here's a Troutbitten article that I recently published about that topic. troutbitten.com/2024/05/21/one-nymph-or-two-heres-a-particular-look-that-can-only-happen-with-two/ However, there is not one answer. Sometimes one. Sometimes two. I don't have just one way of doing much of anything out there. That said, I use two nymphs much more often than one, and for very good reason. There's a lot about it toward the end of that article. Cheers.

@@Troutbitten i actually already did read that. Thank you.

​@@chukolna Nice

Thanks for asking. First part yes. But no, I usually lift from the elbow. Sometimes I'll push into it a bit by lifting at the shoulder. I talked about that at the end. I think hanging your arm out straight sucks, though. But however you lift the rod tip, that's up to you and the situation. Cheers.

@@Troutbitten ok thanks. Do you pull the flies toward you when lifting with your elbow?

​@@VTBullittNope. That's the point of lifting, so you do not alter the fly. Just lift the slack being sent to you, and don't lead yet. Make sense?

That day, yes. I go through a lot of gear.

It's a Troutbitten Standard Mono Rig formula with a HI Viz green butt section because it shows up better on film.