The Long Black Versus The Americano: An Age Old Debate

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Morgan Eckroth

Morgan Eckroth

Күн бұрын

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00:00 NEW STUDIO!
00:46 A Little Beverage History
04:11 Making Our Drinks
08:27 Compare And Contrast

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@sthentic
@sthentic Ай бұрын
I'm from Melbourne. Nothing stopping you from ordering an iced long black. The only rules I have seen is that it should only be espresso and water mix at the correct ratios. With Australian summer heat it's always nice to pour over ice for a refreshing chilled coffee drink with lots of flavour 😊
@Stan_sprinkle
@Stan_sprinkle Ай бұрын
I have ordered that for sure when I was working in Sydney over Christmas
@chikunman133
@chikunman133 Ай бұрын
American here, i made an iced long black...every. single. morning haha. i also eat vegemite and toast almost every morning as well
@CraigSavage
@CraigSavage Ай бұрын
As an American in Melbourne, it's also important to note that an "iced coffee" might not just be coffee with ice. It may come with ice cream!
@Me4502
@Me4502 Ай бұрын
Iced Long Black is basically the only drink I ever order in Brisbane. The only time I have an issue is when the cafe itself doesn't have ice for iced coffees in general (which is oddly semi-common in Brisbane winters, despite it never getting that cold here lol) I do find that a lot of non specialty places make what would be an iced americano based on this video though (fast food coffee, starbucks, etc), but specialty cafes always make drinks that have the correct ratio and feel like an iced long black as opposed to an iced americano.
@EthanPoynter
@EthanPoynter Ай бұрын
nz barista here, the way that my cafe operates is that we would extract the espresso directly into the hot water, using a metal stand to get the cup as close to the portafilter as possible, so that there is a thick crema on top of the water.
@MrSteamDragon
@MrSteamDragon Ай бұрын
Ahhh, music to my ears ! Please come to Western Australia and teach our baristas how to make a long black (hats off to the few who actually do a decent job though). 😎🇦🇺
@ChefWRX
@ChefWRX Ай бұрын
Agreed, it's not optional. The shot has to be pulled into hot water. I don't know the science behind it, but I'd assume it's similar to the current trend of pulling shots over frozen spheres. The result is either a change or retention of flavor compounds.
@LukusGamer
@LukusGamer 23 күн бұрын
Exactly how I make mine too (Australia)
@JemMawson
@JemMawson 6 сағат бұрын
Bless your sweet soul!! NZ baristas are the best (that's why they're found all over Melbourne)
@studikatze
@studikatze Ай бұрын
Can you make an episode about caffeine free coffee? I've been watching your videos forever but had to change my meds a while ago, and now I can't have caffeine anymore. I'd love an episode where you explain how caffein free coffee is made and how it could affect the flavor 😊
@Edwardbear150
@Edwardbear150 Ай бұрын
James Hoffmann has a really good video about this topic
@brianhawthorne7603
@brianhawthorne7603 Ай бұрын
Decaf coffee drinkers are the truest coffee aficionados, looking entirely for flavor instead of both drugs and flavor.
@studikatze
@studikatze Ай бұрын
@@Edwardbear150 thank you, I'll look into it 🥰
@alesswonderland
@alesswonderland Ай бұрын
Isn't there an investigation or something in the US for if decaf is actually good for you? I mean i don't care but I thought I saw something about it recently
@ingridc0ld
@ingridc0ld Ай бұрын
There's no such thing as caffeine free coffee. There's decaf, but that still has a bit of caffeine in it.
@GabrielOwen2014
@GabrielOwen2014 Ай бұрын
Espresso with water > water with espresso
@DavidOakesMusic
@DavidOakesMusic Ай бұрын
Either of those > Nescafe
@felisaisnthere
@felisaisnthere Ай бұрын
​@@DavidOakesMusictruly and unequivocally
@kirstendegarnham4497
@kirstendegarnham4497 Ай бұрын
Seen a couple of comments about this already but I'll chuck my thoughts out anyway. Barista in New Zealand, here. I've worked in a cafe in the north and 2 in the south, and I like to visit different cafes all the time. What I've seen is that you get just 1 size of both drinks, Americano is a large drink, often served in the largest mug available. The long black is served in a tulip cup. I have been shown at the 3 different cafes that with an Americano, the shot goes in the bottom of the cup and then fill it up with hot water. The long black is served opposite to that, with the water going into the cup then pulling the shot on top. However, with an "at home" set up when you have more time to be making each individual drink, makes sense to pull the shot into an espresso cup and then add it to the water gently. I think a lot of the cafe work I've done has been a case of just making the drinks as fast as possible while still maintaining a high quality. My go to (because my body can't digest milk) is an Americano with a caramel shot, normally. But sometimes I'll skip the flavour shot and drink it black. Recently, when a sweet craving hits, Americano with chocolate. (Basically a mocha without the milk)
@dwirandypradhika6752
@dwirandypradhika6752 Ай бұрын
The reason I don't put water after the espresso with americanos, is that a lot of machines came with a hot water tap that pours water quite violently into the cup. I don't mind wiping up water splashing out of an empty cup, but cleaning coffee stains all over my workspace is annoying at best. Also, please use your hot water tap instead of a kettle, cycling the water is good for your boiler, and you won't get chalky flavors if your boiler is frequently filled with new water. Don't let minerals precipitate and cause limescale!
@the_Valinor_tourist
@the_Valinor_tourist Ай бұрын
As a Russian, we have crazy all-season flavours of creamy coffees, for example lavander раф (pronounced as rough), it's kinda like latte but creamier. Creamy and "milky" coffees are extremely popular here, so for someone like me (an average espresso and espresso-like enjoyer) to find even an okay americano is quite "rough" :)
@2NDFLB-CLERK
@2NDFLB-CLERK Ай бұрын
▪️ Crazy? 🟥
@the_Valinor_tourist
@the_Valinor_tourist 15 күн бұрын
@@2NDFLB-CLERK there are some crazy flavours that not even all Russians understand, but from what I heard, the lavender one is the strangest for non-russians
@2NDFLB-CLERK
@2NDFLB-CLERK 15 күн бұрын
@@the_Valinor_tourist ▪️ 2ND FLOOR BASEMENT ? 🟥
@jemyourday
@jemyourday 6 күн бұрын
лавандовый раф на банановом безлактозном молоке, экстра горячее, 5 сахаров. А где кофе здесь?
@2NDFLB-CLERK
@2NDFLB-CLERK 6 күн бұрын
@@jemyourday ▪️ crazy? 🟥
@gscott5062
@gscott5062 Ай бұрын
I'd never heard of a Long Black, but I guess that's what I've been ordering (here in the US). I always ask for an Americano in their smallest cup, 'with room', and then never add cream. So maybe halfway between straight espresso and a normal Americano.
@LelandJordon-hj3tw
@LelandJordon-hj3tw Ай бұрын
That sounds like it ends up with a ratio like a moka pot (which is a ratio I like for myself, too).
@craigice9635
@craigice9635 18 күн бұрын
😄 We have a long black with cream here in Oz. Someone called it a New Yorker. Probably made up.
@gentryheimerman
@gentryheimerman Күн бұрын
I order the same thing and call it a “halficano.” 😀
@Viniter
@Viniter Ай бұрын
The way I see americano served more and more often is with an espresso in a larger cup and a little jug of hot water on the side. That way you can add as much or as little as you'd like.
@vintagechique17
@vintagechique17 Ай бұрын
I've only seen this being done in Norway so it could be a regional thing as its not the standard way it would be served in the UK
@dreysnaps
@dreysnaps Ай бұрын
I've never seen this served this way, and I wish this would catch on in my country.
@Moneyalmenial
@Moneyalmenial Ай бұрын
That's how long blacks are also served in many cafes in New Zealand.
@squidjam
@squidjam Ай бұрын
When you ask for an Americano in Spain, they put the expresso first and use the same machine to fill the cup up with water. I have never had a coffee place serve me an Americano like you prepare it. Not even specialty shops.
@GuardTower
@GuardTower Ай бұрын
... WHY DID I NOT THINK OF THIS :rofl: when im making americano... i used the steam pipe to dispense the hot water :facepalm: you can already guess that i have been having problems with this one hahaha
@unknownentity222
@unknownentity222 Ай бұрын
If you are going to call it by the wrong thing, you might as well say it's Nespresso.
@hannahbd9
@hannahbd9 Ай бұрын
ive worked at 3 cafes in the UK and all advise to put the hot water in first - to stop from ruining the espresso shot
@Stan_sprinkle
@Stan_sprinkle Ай бұрын
They do that for convenience. It makes little difference in taste. If you add espresso to water, you at least are taking the care to try to let the crema sit on top which looks nice. Adding water from the machine is kind of a “meh, Americano” approach
@felisaisnthere
@felisaisnthere Ай бұрын
Oh no no no no it gotta be extremely over extracted unless they use a completely different grinder and recipe
@andrewzach1921
@andrewzach1921 Ай бұрын
Congrats on the new studio space Morgan,thanks for the video
@wraggal
@wraggal Ай бұрын
I worked in a chain coffee place and I 100% never heard of americano being water first. The long black was a wild and new thing to hear about specifically because it was water first
@micknikki138
@micknikki138 Ай бұрын
how different can it be really
@Krynis
@Krynis Ай бұрын
so cool to see you in a studio Morgan! hype for the future of the channel!
@Django44
@Django44 Ай бұрын
Another really well done presentation Morgan - thank you. You do a superb job explaining the basics of your craft, let alone some of the more complicated issues. The key reason I pull my shots directly into the hot water is that all of the shot pours in, with none of the essential oils, crema and other trace elements left behind (in a separate vessel). Personal preference is all that is, but I 'grimace' when I see those glistening, chestnut-colored flavorful ingredients left behind in your stainless cups.
@tarekz9992
@tarekz9992 Ай бұрын
You have such a bubbly personality,which is awesome. Love the videos,keep them coming!
@BrilliantWhenYouGlow
@BrilliantWhenYouGlow Ай бұрын
We spent 2.5 weeks in Italy and after several days I definitely was craving my American coffee! I think it had to do with the volume of coffee. A cappuccino doesn’t last as long as a couple cups I get from my French press! I actually really enjoyed the coffee in New Zealand a lot! The flat whites were amazing each day!
@Mr_Ghoulie
@Mr_Ghoulie Ай бұрын
I never heard of the Long Black, before watching this video. Thank you for introducing me to it. My usual, every day, pre-work coffee is closer to the Long Black. But, I always just called it a strong Americano. I do a quad shot, into a metal mug (I think it holds 10 ounces,) then add a few dashes of bitters, and fill the mug the rest of the way with cool water.
@brendansmith
@brendansmith Ай бұрын
yeah, it's really just a regional term difference and preference for smaller sizes...but you're fine calling it the way you do
@aldrea6506
@aldrea6506 Ай бұрын
I absolutely love the fact that there is a spectrum to liking/loving something, in this case coffee. On one side you have the "I love it so much I'll gatekeep it" where if you do one teeny tiny thing wrong when making the coffee they get upset and combative over it. Then on the other side, you have the "I love it so much I want to share it with the world" where if you do the same teeny tiny thing wrong they are like "omg that's so amazing, how did it taste?? you must tell me every single detail". Both sides love coffee equally but take their love down completely different paths. I am of the latter and love to experiment, I'm currently drinking iced coffee made from the grounds of a Nespresso pod that was transferred to a Keurig reusable pod, added milk, some toasted marshmallow syrup and 3 ice cubes. I give it a 7/10 lol.
@emmawilks4524
@emmawilks4524 Ай бұрын
Aussie Barista here, at our cafe we do Long Blacks but you can get them regular size (double shot), a large (a triple shot) and Iced which follows same shot ratio to the size chosen. We always offer milk and any extras if desired. I did have some Canadians come in the other day asking for an americano and because we dont have it on our menu and havent been taught about it, this video is extremely helpful so next time i get someone asking i can actually make it for them knowing i know what im doing, cause i was very nervous to ask them and explain to them how we do 'our version' so i gave them a long black hoping for the best. lesson learned :) thank you
@Shirumoon
@Shirumoon 13 күн бұрын
I really love to see baristas or anyone really in the food and drink industry willing to learn! I'm from Germany and we're not known to have the best customer service so if I were to order something at a café that's not on their menu, there's a 99% chance they'd straight up decline and give me a weird look even. I would appreciate it so much to either be asked about the beverage I'm ordering or to notice that the barista took the time to learn about it by the time I came around again.
@petra9784
@petra9784 Ай бұрын
i live in aus at the moment, was born in nz. at my work our way of making an americano is espresso then hot water and the long black the opposite way around. ive had to explain the difference to a few of my coworkers as they dont realise theres a stronger taste with the long black due to the crema. iced long blacks are a summer favourite so you can ice both types. long blacks are very VERY common probably the second most i get daily. i prefer espresso with milk, thats just my way of having coffee
@Christhebearable
@Christhebearable 24 күн бұрын
As others have mentioned, you are generally welcome to customise coffee here in Australia as much as you like also. Particularly the Iced long black is a staple of our hot summer it’s standard recipe is: In a standard sized frappe type cup, fill to the absolute top with ice, add cold water leaving just enough room for a double shot of espresso to float on top. This keeps the dilution to a minimum, and still gets you the crema on top
@nyanuwu4209
@nyanuwu4209 17 күн бұрын
"standard sized frappe type cup" "absolute top" "just enough room" Why say you have a recipe when all you have is vagueness?
@jeffcarey3045
@jeffcarey3045 14 күн бұрын
who hurt you?
@skitzmix2007
@skitzmix2007 Ай бұрын
Always love your content Morgan!! as an Australian, a barista and avid drinker of long blacks, i cant say i have ever had or ever made the long black you made. it is always made the Americano way, im now going to run off and try it your way :D
@AutoReport1
@AutoReport1 Ай бұрын
I have to agree, in Australia a long black is just an Americano without milk. It just displaced the commercial drip filter coffee option (American machines) as everywhere switched to making espresso instead. And U have to say, it's not better than drip filter, especially if you want a larger size, it just gets watered down more.
@russellswan8394
@russellswan8394 Ай бұрын
As an Aussie who lived overseas for years I got good at explaining a long black to barristas "a short, double shot Americano" would usually get me there or "a strong Americano with half the usual water" very occasionally someone would respond "You mean a long black?" and my day would be made. 😊 I noticed there is a subtle difference between Australia and New Zealand though. In Australia you will almost never see the word "Americano" on a café menu but if you order a large long black that's basically what you get. Whereas in NZ a long black is one size only, the bigger one is called an Americano.
@rdaphoto
@rdaphoto Ай бұрын
My wife and I were recently in China, where third wave coffee is definitely surging in popularity. My wife ordered americano’s, which were on every cafe menu, and we now realize that she received Long Blacks. She would ask for more hot water, and got quizzical stares every time. I guess the proximity of Australia to China has influenced the coffee culture. It was nice being able to get good quality coffee in China, which was not the case when I was last there in the mid-nineties! Thanks for the informative video…. I never really knew what a Long Black is…. Not a common item here in Canada.
@JustJimWillDo
@JustJimWillDo Ай бұрын
Thank you for this explanation. As an Aussie I am used to drinking Long Blacks at cafés and, having also heard the WW2 story about the Americano, I thought they might be the same drink. Good to learn that my Melbournian Barista brothers and sisters have got the real thing down to a fine art and… well, let's leave it at that in accordance with Morgan's instructions at the beginning of the video, eh? 😁😁
@tegztegz
@tegztegz Ай бұрын
I appreciate your respect for NZ and Aus coffee culture. I am a flat white girlie myself
@KathyTrithardt
@KathyTrithardt Ай бұрын
I've been traveling in Europe for a couple months now. Thanks for explaining why I've had to switch to ordering Americanos instead of just a cup of black coffee, and for letting me know that if that is not an option, and Long Black will do basically (but not exactly) the same thing.
@jgranahan
@jgranahan 15 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@modelcitizenvlad
@modelcitizenvlad Ай бұрын
NZ barista here. At my place of work we don't actually make a distinction between Americano and Long Black; they're both espresso with water poured onto it. I suppose our small size would closest approximate the proposed style guide in this video but frankly only about one in one hundred customers actually know what kind of coffee they've ordered and how it's different to the others.
@thebitterfig9903
@thebitterfig9903 Ай бұрын
Iced Americano (decaf) was always my go-to “green mermaid” order back when I was newish to coffee. The reason? I was cheap. Iced Americano with mocha syrup was at least a dollar cheaper than an iced latte, and all I had to do was walk over to the cream pitcher and top it up. That trick doesn’t really work hot, only iced, but I thought the results were tasty. These days… my order is still often the decaf iced americano. Only, I drink it black and unsweetened.
@BansheeBunny
@BansheeBunny Ай бұрын
When you said to float the coffee over the water, it made me think of my old bartending days. It got me thinking about what would happen if you poured the hot water over the back of a spoon to heat it up, and then pour the espresso immediately over it; how it might effect the crema on a long black.
@variaedeventuale
@variaedeventuale Ай бұрын
Here in recent day Italy the americano started out as a way to mimic drip coffee with an espresso machine, usually it is a single shot (7 to 10 grams in) diluted to the volume of a standard cappuccino mug. So something more similar to the long black you brewed, a bit stronger even
@Alicat2911
@Alicat2911 Ай бұрын
Morgan can you make a magic, they're also an Australian (specifically Melbourne) invention
@anotherone5137
@anotherone5137 Ай бұрын
Welcome back Morgan
@alecmanz9021
@alecmanz9021 Ай бұрын
Hey Morgan, what type of glass is it you used in your video thumbnail (the one on the right) I've been trying to find a one with the same shape as it. Anyways, cool video!
@cornerliston
@cornerliston Ай бұрын
Fun comparison. Nice to see. May I give a suggestion about production : ) Try rotating your lav mic so it points downwards. This may (or may not) have a positive effect on the sibilants.
@vmitchinson
@vmitchinson Ай бұрын
I vacationed for a month in Australia and had long blacks that were very strong. When I got back to Canada the drip coffee no longer satisfied, it was just hot water with brown colourering, no flavour. I searched for something like the long black. I finally found it with the Moka pot.
@antibot9804
@antibot9804 Ай бұрын
In Austria, we have the "Verlängerter" ("elongated"), which is more or less the same as the Americano, usually served in a fairly large cup. It's probably a matter of people in different places having the same idea. Originally, it was probably made with mokka, not espresso, but nowadays espresso is the standard here.
@youViewerify
@youViewerify Ай бұрын
Came here to ask if the Verlängerter was the same as Americano, thanks!
@Astavyastataa
@Astavyastataa Ай бұрын
That's neat. What I usually drink at home is a mocha with hot water added.
@dwirandypradhika6752
@dwirandypradhika6752 Ай бұрын
Also consider the different style of shots that people use for theee drinks! Australian cafes usually dose triple shots, pull a split espresso or even ristretto in the cup, while double shots are more common in the US. This is the most common reason a cafe will only put one of these drinks in their menu. The best I've seen is a skilled barista dialing the shot on-the-fly when I asked for a long black in a cafe where they serve americano. But please don't ask your barista this unless you know them well and they don't mind. Also, don't complain, you asked for it...
@jasonscalise5
@jasonscalise5 Ай бұрын
I've ordered an americano three times. Once was at a movie theater, and I think they just watered down some Keurig coffee. It was bad. But I had one at a coffee shop, and it tasted just as watery. The third was at Dutch Bros (they didn't serve black coffee normally, so I ordered a double espresso with water.) It was fine. I'm interested to try the long black. At home, I use an aeropress or moka pot and add a little water.
@stonebear
@stonebear Ай бұрын
I'm likewise with the Aeropress. If I want more than the Aeropress will make natively but I want a cleaner cup than my French presses will make (i.e. I'm not putting cream in, or have a lighter roast, etc.), I go 20g drip-or-slightly-finer grind, 216g water in the 'Press, 2:30, press, then add 144g hot water; this yields about 350g of beverage, which is just about right for my "16oz" mugs... You could probably simulate a Long Black by pressing a James Hoffman fake espresso into (eyeballs the math) 110-120g hot water? (for those as don't grok that, 18g not-quite-espresso-grind, inverted or pressure cap, 90g water, stir _aggressively_, 1:30 steep, press - basically simulates what the Italians would call a "lungo" - 5:1 water to coffee)
@2NDFLB-CLERK
@2NDFLB-CLERK Ай бұрын
▪️ Every morning my fish looks at me like I don't give him enough coffee. Friggin fiend. 🟥
@unggulkirindi6556
@unggulkirindi6556 Ай бұрын
Thanks, as Long Black enjoyer this video just make me happy. For the next video, could you explain about cold brew? Thanks!
@nicole8214
@nicole8214 Ай бұрын
I just wanted to drop a thank you here, cause I have learned so much from this channel on how to make and enjoy coffee at home. My hobby of good coffee making has made my expectations so high it is hard to go out for it now hahaha which isnt a bad thing
@dununfolette16
@dununfolette16 Ай бұрын
At my café, in France, we serve the espresso in a large cup and the hot water in a small pitcher so the customer can adjust the amont of water in their drink. Nice studio by the way 😊
@FunkyBukkyo
@FunkyBukkyo Ай бұрын
When I was in Paris and asked for a Long, they served me an Espresso in a regular cup and a pot of hot water. So I pour in the hot water myself to my liking and to add more hot water in as I drink, watering it down. This makes kind of sense, as I am extending my coffee drinking time a bit longer than usual. Truthfully, if the water already poured in ahead of time, I don't think I could even tell the difference between an Americano or a Long Black.
@FreakyRufus
@FreakyRufus Ай бұрын
I spent a couple of months in Australia 24 years ago, and greatly enjoyed having long blacks during my time there. When I returned to the US, I never managed to find anywhere that knew what they were, and eventually gave up on it. It’s interesting to learn that lots of places in the US seem to serve them now.
@biankatoth1786
@biankatoth1786 Ай бұрын
Hungarian here (working in Austria). Long black here comes usually as it is from the machine. It automatically brews the coffee with more water but I also put one shot of extra hot water in it, or when the guests require then I give and extra shot in a different cup.
@definiteIynotkenji
@definiteIynotkenji Ай бұрын
isn't this an Italian "lungo" instead of the Australian long black?
@jean-michellae9041
@jean-michellae9041 Ай бұрын
@@definiteIynotkenji I would think Lungo also. Like a 1:3 to 1:5 ratio that one would do with a lighter roast bean. To be honest, I prefer this over a long black that is a bit a too watery in relation to the espresso flavor around it. If I want a longer coffee, then a drip definitely would have better aroma for me. I have to keep doing some long black for the wife though 😊
@definiteIynotkenji
@definiteIynotkenji Ай бұрын
@@jean-michellae9041 this is just me but for a high water ratio coffee nothing really beats a pour over. My wife prefers the coffee from her Nespresso :(
@rajTrondhjem10
@rajTrondhjem10 Ай бұрын
Great video..
@YukonHawk1
@YukonHawk1 Ай бұрын
I'll drink either one. Good luck with your new studio🎉
@Hangingofgiants
@Hangingofgiants Ай бұрын
Kiwi here. From my experiences working 10+ years in a variety of high end cafes, thats a prety long long black. And a tulip or ceramic cup is preferred (as you experienced). Sometimes folk want a filter with milk. I'll steer those people towards the americano mostly.
@ericwright3646
@ericwright3646 Ай бұрын
A recent trip to Barcelona changed my view of coffee. I had always been a fan, but the people of Spain are dead serious about it. In Spain everything starts with espresso. Every restaurant I visited had an espresso machine. I made it home and immediately invested in a moka pot and now have developed "gently brewed" espresso (no sputtering overheated moka at my house!) Finding your channel has been a pure pleasure. I'm more interested in coffee than ever and you've got all the details.
@anastasiiamoralez6763
@anastasiiamoralez6763 Ай бұрын
What kind of camera did you use? I never see such a great quality of video. It feels like it’s real time video
@JerryFranklin-hf3gf
@JerryFranklin-hf3gf Ай бұрын
Morgan "teaches" coffee. Tks gurl!♥
@Discobiscut
@Discobiscut 26 күн бұрын
An Ozzie here and my order for a long black is 3/4 and I top it with cold sparking/mineral water. this gives it a sparkly mouth feel and also takes the just-boiled water edge so you can drink straighaway
@jonkwin9620
@jonkwin9620 Ай бұрын
Going to cafes in the south island of New Zealand, it is quite common/usual to be served a long black in a cup around 1/2 to 3/4 full of just espresso, then get a small stainless jug with the hot water to add to your taste. This seems the best way to my partner who will always drinks long blacks.
@Stan_sprinkle
@Stan_sprinkle Ай бұрын
Some other fun facts. I lived in both Singapore and Korea for years. In Singapore because of more Aussie influence I suppose, the proper coffee shops typically have long blacks, flat whites, etc in the menu (ignoring Singapore style coffee which is a diff thing). In Korea, Americano is king - anecdotally I noticed that the default drink for adults in korea is an Americano or iced Americano.
@MrSteamDragon
@MrSteamDragon Ай бұрын
Great vid 🙂. You noted that you used 125ml of water for your long black. What was the amount of the shot you added ? Am keen to understand the ratio you applied here. I use a manual lever press espresso machine; it doesn't have a standard portafilter size like most auto machines do. Thanks heaps.
@trystanjames2687
@trystanjames2687 Ай бұрын
Thanks Morgan! Very informative!! As a proud Aussie, my morning go-to at home is a long black. I'm not great at steaming milk, so when I'm out I'll spoil myself and get a magic 🙂.
@brentroman
@brentroman Ай бұрын
Anecdotally- I’d heard that another differentiation between the two was that the long black typically used “ristretto” shots. Had you heard about that?
@belindaandjoelvanbergeijk9377
@belindaandjoelvanbergeijk9377 Ай бұрын
May I ask how large your espresso shots were for this video?
@KarstenLangPedersen
@KarstenLangPedersen Ай бұрын
An estimate would be 18-20g of beans for a 36-40g double espresso.
@justinekim8744
@justinekim8744 Ай бұрын
Ever since you taught me to put salt in my coffee, I’ve been actively looking forward to your videos ❤
@myltsyn
@myltsyn Ай бұрын
long black is my favorite espresso-based beverage and now I know how to properly make it, thank you
@smirbelbirbel
@smirbelbirbel Ай бұрын
The fact that you felt the need to ask for people being cordial in the discussion of two drinks of espresso and water, tells you everything you need to know about the Internet. 😌
@ever55
@ever55 Ай бұрын
also tells you everything you need to know about coffee people
@nomadsolos
@nomadsolos Ай бұрын
Thanks for the lesson on a Long Black. I find that my tastes seem to change from time to time. I started out making Americanos when I first got an espresso machine. Over time I have come to prefer either a Flat White, or a Latte. Usually a double. If I want a black coffee I will usually just make a pour over. I will however give a Long Black a try. Thanks Morgan.
@sayanama
@sayanama Ай бұрын
I really really wish there was a combination of both, where the ratio remains the same as the long black but the total volume comes out to be 1 Litre or 32 oz.
@hannahbd9
@hannahbd9 Ай бұрын
thats alot of caffeine :0
@KarstenLangPedersen
@KarstenLangPedersen Ай бұрын
@@hannahbd9 Espresso is supposed to have a bit less caffeine than Drip, but .. at the Long Black ratio for a liter of finished beverage, you'd still be looking at about 6 double shots of Espresso. THAT, is too much for me. Almost 100g of beans would go into that. Normally, I'd use 60g of beans to 1 liter of water, for drip coffee.
@arcanum3000
@arcanum3000 Ай бұрын
Something occurred to me when you mentioned floating the espresso on the water in the Long Black: In the cocktail world when doing a float it's common to pour it over the back of a barspoon. I wonder (mostly academically, since it's not my style of drink) if that methodology would have any impact on the Long Black.
@MiniHD
@MiniHD Ай бұрын
4:50 I love the fact that you pour your water into the empty glass in concentric circles, small but still circles! I guess that´s habitual!! 😀 Otherwise - informative, clear and concise as usual! Congrats on the new studio space!! 😊
@michaelferrin2688
@michaelferrin2688 Ай бұрын
I do something kind of like these drinks at home. I don't have an espresso machine, but I do have an Aeropress. So I'll make the largest brew I can with it, put it in my usual travel coffee mug and then top it off with hot water. I've also done cold brew and added hot water to it.
@SirDragonClaw
@SirDragonClaw 2 күн бұрын
In all my time drinking coffee in Australia, I have never seen someone do a Long Black like that.
@coffeesnob1992
@coffeesnob1992 Ай бұрын
Former Aussie barista here. In my cafe you can get an iced long black or a large long black (3 shots) in a 12oz cup. However, unless you ask for it, you'll get a standard (or regular) sized drink with 2 shots of espresso.
@someone4437
@someone4437 Ай бұрын
My partner was a barista in Aotearoa (NZ) a few decades back and the way they built the Long Back in the cafe she worked in was to pull the espresso into the mug then provide the hot water in a small jug on the side.
@Moneyalmenial
@Moneyalmenial Ай бұрын
This is my experience living there and drink many long blacks (with cream)
@fretless05
@fretless05 Ай бұрын
I wonder, too, if there's some sweet spot to balance mouth feel and origin flavor. I expect adding more water can open up the coffee in that the lower surface tension might separate out the nuances of the flavors much like adding a bit of water to whiskey can. Interestingly, I find in drinking spirits that some respond better to water than others, which also makes me wonder if the ideal ratio of coffee to water will vary depending on the origin and the roast. All that said, I love good coffee, so consider the experiment worthwhile in its own right!
@lovealwaysmom
@lovealwaysmom Ай бұрын
@MorganDrinks Ill have to try these, but first is the making of the espressos. I prepare and drink pour over coffee at home. How do I go about making espresso? ratio of coffee to water? Thank you in advance.
@cukymonster33
@cukymonster33 Ай бұрын
Your new studio is to echo-y. Good video
@michaelvelasquez6910
@michaelvelasquez6910 19 күн бұрын
Can you please make a video about caffea liberica. This variety has a special place in my heart since it was the variety of coffee being farmed from my mom’s and my wife’s province back in the Philippines.
@JemMawson
@JemMawson 6 сағат бұрын
The "viscous mouthfeel" is what I'm looking for (and also the name of my band).
@mojoneko8303
@mojoneko8303 Ай бұрын
I order Americanos a lot when I go to a coffee shop and add a splash of half and half. I have never heard of a long black before so I will give them a try. I like variety but the next time I walk into a coffee shop I'm tempted to order a Long Black Americano just to see what I get.. 🙂 Thanks for the video.
@joemonk747
@joemonk747 4 күн бұрын
TIL I prefer a long black to an americano. For the last 15 years I’ve been asking coffee shops to make “an americano but with like 6 oz. of water and pour the espresso gently over the water please.” 😂 I never knew, I just knew that I liked them more concentrated and with the crema on top.
@stkjjke
@stkjjke Ай бұрын
I was expecting a Vienna type of coffee reading about the long black (Vienna coffee might be a complete series of its own - hint, hint😊). Haven't heard of it as the down under version before. Will definitely try that with my machine if it makes a difference using the pre selected programs for more water or filling up an espresso with hot water afterwards.
@SimonLant
@SimonLant Ай бұрын
As Americano is my go to coffee in the UK i noticed a distinction that Costa always seem to be espresso in to water and Starbucks seem to be water in to espresso. I assumed this was their SOP kicking in, but any other cafes have been a random mix of method. I always thought the long black was the sister of a flat white and that is fairly consistently same sized and smaller than other coffees on a traditional menu.
@Viniter
@Viniter Ай бұрын
What is this vertical slide?
@KellyS_77
@KellyS_77 Ай бұрын
I was concerned she'd fallen and I just missed it.
@slukas1375
@slukas1375 15 күн бұрын
Perhaps I missed it, what temperature is the water for both the Long Black and the Americano? Boiled? Would you pull the water from the steam wand of one's machine? Thanks!
@YouTubedarek
@YouTubedarek Ай бұрын
Thank you KZfaq algorithm for suggesting your channel! Great video! Subscribed! Long black gang here…and I like to live dangerously by making the shot directly into my cup of hot water 😏
@RevocerGM
@RevocerGM Ай бұрын
If I have a fancy bag of beans, I'll generally make a long black at first and take some time to enjoy it. But day-to-day I make Americanoes - I just need a big cup of hot bean-juice mostly. I still always pour the shot after the water though - it just looks better for absolutely zero extra effort.
@WeAreBullets
@WeAreBullets Ай бұрын
dear precious Morgan, do you have a video / can you make a video explaining the diff between just a regular drip coffee versus an americano? this question has been in the back of my head for a while now, ever since one time when i got my usual americano at a cafe (cause i preferred that at the time to the drip coffee) and my mom asked "well how is it different than a regular coffee? you're adding water to that espresso, but you cannot add water to a regular coffee cup to warm it up?" (mind you, my mother has never drank coffee, she only drinks black tea with sugar). I said "well because then the regular coffee would be way too watered down, at least with espresso i can water it down but its still tasty and also it lasts a bit longer before it cools all the way down". I'm sure this is some of the basic taste/experience differences, but is there something more to it? is there really any difference between a drip coffee and an espresso that has been watered down to the same thin-ness (for lack of better word) as a drip coffee? isn't there something in the espresso process that pulls different taste out, and also isnt the body thicker and such because its not quite filtered the same as drip?
@jasonsandlerspeaks
@jasonsandlerspeaks Ай бұрын
Interesting, my main go to coffee is a double espresso and let the water run a little longer so at the end the drink is about the size of a cortado, still has a great creme on it then.
@midoritea4413
@midoritea4413 Ай бұрын
How interesting! In the US, I have always seen Americanos being coffee first, then hot water, both in specialty shops and brand chains.
@VektrumSimulacrum
@VektrumSimulacrum Ай бұрын
Long Black was my go to when in AU. I miss it. Just not the same if Im not drinking it while strolling down the sidewalk in Williamstown or the CBD. 😢
@truenorthjess
@truenorthjess Ай бұрын
As a Canadian in the UK i thought my only cafe quest was finding something similar to a London fog. Now my quest is ordering ammericanos and seeing if they do espresso or water first.
@KellyS_77
@KellyS_77 Ай бұрын
Early gray tea with steam milk and a shot of vanilla?
@truenorthjess
@truenorthjess Ай бұрын
@@KellyS_77 I've asked for that and they just don't understand, putting a tea bag in steamed milk is beyond them. The closest I've gotten was "I can give you earl grey tea with some steamed milk on the side".
@Pekz00r
@Pekz00r 28 күн бұрын
My wife is from Spain so I spend quite a lot of time there. In Spain an Americano is typically just an espresso where you put a lot more water though the puck,. They have typically 4 buttons on the espresso machine. Single short, double short, single long, or double long. For an americano you make a double dose and then press double long to get a pretty big drink. Drip coffee doesn't exist there more or less.
@scottriley7145
@scottriley7145 Ай бұрын
We used to make a 1:1 ratio espresso and water and call it a cut double. Served the same purpose as a picollo latte to a latte. Fits right in with your analogy. Being an Aussie I probably fed into the Americano is espresso then water argument, but your analysis is better, its more about how they function for the drinker rather than exsctly how they're built.
@Johnnybananass-_
@Johnnybananass-_ 29 күн бұрын
another kiwi barista here fro the heyday of nfs coffee renaissance in the late 80's early 90s. we served long blacks straight double shots into the coffee cup then a small mini jug of hot water on the side, the customer could pour in the water they wanted, some would just double the liquid amount some would fill the cup. all on each persons taste, this was the early 90s so guessing the process has elevated to this pouring onto water in the cup haha .
@myself5235
@myself5235 20 күн бұрын
they still do this in few Italian cafes in Dubai
@Cole205
@Cole205 Ай бұрын
I am learning to be more cultured (drinking something other than Red Bvll) with the help of Morgan. Thank you!
@montanausa329
@montanausa329 Ай бұрын
Does the room have slick enough floors to do your intro slide
@jhcali71
@jhcali71 20 күн бұрын
My preferred Americano version is 4 shot espresso, topped with drip coffee.
@cittylin
@cittylin Ай бұрын
I only wanna live in a world where we debate coffee
@NMEONES
@NMEONES Ай бұрын
My favorite is 75ml hot water with a double shot pulled straight into the glass. Gives you enough to sip on but still amazing flavor and body!
@nawalismail8025
@nawalismail8025 Ай бұрын
Thank you for explaining this. I thought these drink is interchangeable (pardon my ignorance). No wonder all this while I think the cafe is not consistent, apparently I ordered wrongly. Thus, it come to light that I enjoy long black more than americano😂
@JoshuaFortuna
@JoshuaFortuna Ай бұрын
when traveling and visiting a new cafe, ordering a long black is my benchmark for it’s going to be a good experience. if they don’t know what it is i adjust my expectations 😅
@cyberflotsam
@cyberflotsam Ай бұрын
Brit here - everywhere here seems to make Americano as espresso into hot water. Only variation seems to be that some baristas judge the amount of hot water right first time, others put in most of the hot water and top up to required size after adding the espresso.
@StrongImaginationA
@StrongImaginationA Ай бұрын
There is also the German 'Verlängerter' - literally 'elongated' or 'lengthened'. I just looked it up and it's 50/50 water and espresso.
@ferozus
@ferozus Ай бұрын
how hot should be the water? is it different for long black and for americano?
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