Today we have a fun video talking about one of my favorite parts of League of Legends history - Magma chamber, and the desire for the LoL playerbase to be given a proper 1v1 ranked game mode and ladder. I hope you guys enjoy!

Top laners dream ,only focuse on 1v1 not a team to carry

Considering there is a 1v1 mode in all stars every year i dont understand why riot doesnt just release it to the public.

i miss twisted treeline of all things the reason why i liked it so much was that there where 2 less players on each team that you didnt have to worry about and it also gave a break from constantly playing Summoners rift.

rip twisted treeline, rip dominion, they were seriously my favourite game modes

The statement riot said about lack of interested reminded of this. Riot doesnt advertise the gamemode or doesn't give it enough effort/content. Gamemodes dies from lack of players Riot: Not our fault duh. The gamemode died because nobody played it. We arent going to invest in a dead gamemode Player:but if you dont invest in it at all, nobody will play it. Riot:what did you just say? Remove it? Okay.

RIP Dominion, gone but not forgotten

I freaking love the Documentaries you've been making, they're legit Netflix worthy. Keep it up brotha, you're killing it

I wish they still made multiple maps man. A shurima themed map would be so sick.

To this day I am devastated that we didn’t get the 1v1 mode promised! Thank you for caring about it! #neverforget

I think the wildest part of this video is that santa gragas still looks like that

Oh man, the flashbacks to being hyped as hell for the OG Magma Chamber... and then disappointed as hell when it was canned.

to be fair one of the reason why 3v3 and dominion did not last was because of riot themselves. if you look at the history of them you can see riot did not care for them to much unlike 5v5 and aram they were not balanced or patched much hell characters like kayle poppy and trendamere were able to go into the enemy fountain and kill there whole team and walk out alive since the tower did not have the true damage that they did on summoner rift. they just were not balanced or cared about on riots side and the comunatiy seen that so why would they care to play something they knew they could not fix hell 3v3 only seen one major rework/ patch and then it was back to balancing towards summoner rift and for a game modes that did not play like summoner rift got unbalanced due to it hence why aram is still strong since it was a gamemode made around the balances of summoner rift

I think another important aspect that wasnt mentioned is that due to ARAM balance changes being tied to the Howling Abyss map, it's impossible to have a fair 1v1 there. If you pick Akali you literally deal 120% dmg and take only 80% (different from champ to champ) which completly defeats the purpose. Especially since 1v1s often end up being really close so you might win or lose a match due to the balance changes for an unrelated gamemode that you can't turn off

My brother still brings this map up from time to time. That just goes to show how much some people care about it.

Seeing all the game modes list and knowing that Riot just spews (AR)URF OFA and NB (for a month when they wanna have an "event" with impossibly long missions so you're obligated to play it) makes me so sad, ascension. doom bots, black market etc where all really good quick fun and if they actually got to balance it like they do with ARAM now could've worked well with the weekly rotation

If they released 1v1 ranked I'd only play it

Wow what a great video! You sure seem like a great KZfaqr!

I'd love a 1v1 mode, I find (solo) laning really fun usually and it feels like a game of chess

watching the chinese play 2v2 on that map was just aesthetic af

I really think you should do a video about 3v3. For us it was hands down better than 5v5. You had control over your teammates, everyone knew eachother in high elo. Several new playstyles. It was heaven untill they crushed our dreams.

Would love to play twisted treeline again or the galaxy/star guardian events. Been to long.

I just want to say that seeing you in my feed made my day better :D now it is time to watch the video. keep going strong champ!

Here's my idea for a 1v1 gamemode in League: It would be a best of three where each game the goal is to destroy the enemy Nexus rather than a First blood/100 cs/1st tower on a Howling Abyss style map. What would make this interesting though is that you'd have a ban phase where each player bans 3 champions and then each player takes turns picking the champions they'll play for the three games. They can play those champions in whichever order, but they have to use those champions and they can only use them once. For added fun they have access to Barrier, Exhaust Flash, Ghost, Heal and Ignite. However whichever two they choose for a game, they can't use for any other game. If the gameplay itself doesn't prove too slow as to be boring I think a gamemode like this would be really cool.

God I miss twisted treeline. 😢

Man seeing that 5v5 Magma Chamber concept art brings back so many memories from S1-3. Weirdly enough I was talking about it on stream the other day and you just put out a video about it. Thanks for the nostalgia trip gbae, great vid as always

I will never forget the time I played in a 1v1 with Wildturtl and won in snowdown showdown. Maybe if they made a ranked system in 1v1 it would create more hype towards playing it more and the community would take it more seriously.

I used to love watching my brother smash 1v1s with old Yorick. That was the best.

I still remember how everyone was hyped for the Magma Chamber to release for casual players too. We may not have been given that mode, but at least we got Snowdown Showdown, which... Well, which also doesn't exist anymore 😢 Personally I will never forget that mode as being one of the toughest one and especially one particular game: As the main goal was to reach either 100cs, first blood or first turret I enjoyed playing Syndra until that one time when I got matched against an Orianna. As it turned out it was the closest game I've ever experienced. It was 95 cs vs 96 cs before the last wave hit and we both were at around 30% HP. From there on you can imagine how close this battle was about to become around the last few minions. In the end I succeeded and won with 100cs to 99cs, Orianna barely killing me in the process (My Q killed the last minion exactly at that moment, when Ori's Q was about to hit me :o). To everyone who stuck by and read this story: hi! To the Orianna I played against in that match: If you read this, be assured you'll never be forgotten! Was a pleasure to play this game against you 😊

there should be a consistent rgm schedule, rolling in every single game mode that was released

After watching this im kinda pissed, a 1v1 game mode would be so hype. And back then streaming league of legends want as popular, but now streamers would be able to show it off and make hype for it... so sad

damn, when you mentioned dominion i got some flashbacks. I used to play that way to much.

My brother and I played the snowdown showdown 2v2 mode soooo much. Miss it so much and always felt like Riot missed an opportunity to make a fun 1v1/2v2 ranked ladder

Ah, Magma Chamber, the Ao Shin of maps

Hey Gbay, my wife's boyfriend is a big fan of your videos!

Gbay why don’t you use your influence to start a petition? I think most people would like this.

Your content is honestly so underrated, definitely deserves more views.

I totally forgot this was a thing. Thabks for reminding me. It was so fun watching the pro's 1v1 in the tournaments bach than and i truly believe that 1v1 rabked would have a proper playerbase. A big reason why the other modes dont work is because of no ranking system. 3v3 ranked used to be pretty popular i believe. Although dominion ranked was never popular so idk.

So glad you popped up with a new doc and it involves one of the hyped up game mode having magma map with howling abyss. It could of worked this time around with you know and we’ll let all the rage out on one person instead of everyone at everything

15:55 LOL unoptimized map! thats a great excuse, but patently false. They weren't willing to commit a single indie dev to it.

i really miss twisted treeline. we had so many gaming nights, where someone went to bed and we were left with 3 people wanting to play more. so we went there. it was really enjoyable to play in a different way (metawise). you still mostly had two solo lanes and a jungler, but the pathing and how close everything was changed so much. really made me fall in love with lissandra and how she could just pop up anywhere. games not being 40-60 minutes long also meant that a loss didnt feel THAT bad

I’d 100% redownload League if 1v1s were added

even though i havent played league in years i still watch every single one of your videos, high quality content!

All the maps and game types should be available in custom game modes at least. When 6 friends get together to play league, 3v3 twisted treeline was the most fun, but removing that entirely means we either kick someone out, play separately, or play another game, none of which is fun for anyone.

I loved Twisted Treeline and Dominion. The removal of alternate game modes marked the moment where the toxicity in the game really soared for me.

I love listening to these documentaries while studying, they are so calm and fun.

This was a really interesting video to watch good job man

thanks for the quality work. keep it up. wish you well

Its always great when you start a day with gbays new video

My favourite was teambuilder in season 5 I think, where you could premake your team so you controlled what champs and roles were in the game before going into a game, only problem is you never knew who the enemies would pick.

But imagine how many fun ideas you could breed with this concept. You'd have the ranked 1v1 ladder and possibly seasonal events, where at a certain extent the game forces you to master champs from every role or something.

Holy cow, I did not know that Magma Chamber was supposed to be a different 5v5 map and that it was announced in 2010! I only started playing in 2012. I also remember the old Proving Grounds tutorial when I first started and I did not recognize the resemblance to Howling Abyss! I learned so much in this video :D. I loved the Magma Chamber 2v2 map when I saw it first played by the pros and I loved the Snowdown Showdown 1v1 mode. I am so sad that this has not gotten any more attention by Riot. Thanks for covering this!

I'm happy to see you on my feed Gbay 🥰

I used to love snowdown showdown it was a great way to just warm up before playing a real game of summoners rift even if they just brought it back without a ranked mode I think it could be a good addition to the game even just to warm your hands up before playing a match, or even the perfect game mode to play when you don't have the energy or time to play a full game of league. I remember commenting about this one time when they announced the rotating gamemodes back in like season 5 or so where a riot employee responded that 1v1s and 2v2s will be looked into being apart of the rotating gamemodes. Hopefully this documentary brings some light to riot games that theres a large community that wants a 1v1 and 2v2 map even still after all these years.

I still wish we got the old 5v5 mamga chamber to this day

You can tell that you have put in a lot of work in these documentaries and that's what sets your videos apart from other LoL channels ( let's be honest, these isn't much quality LoL content on youtube). So keep up the great work!!!

Haven't played Dota in long time, I mainly play League, but just in case people don't know, the term ARAM comes from the original DotA WC3 mod. It was a command you can input that turns off the top and bottom lanes of the map and gives players random heroes to battle it out in the mid lane.

I love how informative your content is and I remember you're a man of your word cause you actually put up a video of you eating a sock

It’s wild how I was so upset about this, yet I forgot about it till your video

Inly true ogs remember the 10v10 Magma chambers concept rip

This video shows why league NEEDS community open map editor, so many frustration comes out from the fact that players are stuck to what riot is giving them away contrary to cs players (for instance) who can develop themselves the product they want (and the map editor is rly easy to use), I know this can lead to a low quality editor that doesn't do much for its game and lets the community change stuff (like Valve) but I really like for example the forge on Overwatch. And please, allow RGM on custom for god's sake

as someone who only plays ARAM nowadays, i dont see how i can get as invested in alternate gamemodes if i know they only last two weeks

high hopes this video does launch the 1v1 ladder next preseason! HYPE

Me and my friend play league together time to time and we almost always start our gamenights (about 5-10 games of SR) with a 1v1 games for 5 wins, which means as we are similarly skilled about 8 or 9 1v1 games. I'd love to have a game mode to measure our wincon instead of us having to permanently be wary about our cs in case one of us was close to 100 cs. And yeah, we spend about 30+ minutes 1v1 and several hours of SR, but on average we go 1v1 more times than we go queue up for duo ranked.

I like this high quality documentary content ☺️

I would really love a queue to practice matchups. The worst part about league is that it is hard to improve when you're trying to learn how to play against Teemo, and then their jungler comes, kills you, and the lane is over

I think one of the biggest things about not liking 1v1 or 2v2s on Howling Abyss, is the 'balance' setting there. Where healing abilities such as Nunu's Consume, Sona's Perseverence, Nidalee's heal, etc are hit really hard, and then some champions do 10%+ dmg and take 10%+ less damage. IE Akali, does more and takes less dmg in Howling Abyss then what she does in Summoner's Rift, giving her an already really good advantage in a 1v1 match on the HA map when she is already a really good 1v1 champion in SR. But because HA is a map where people start off as a team of 5, she is buffed for that very reason.

I appreciate your videos. Thanks for making them gbay99!

people dont play the other modes cause there's no ranked, if anyone of them had a ladder the userbase would skyrocket

No wonder permanent modes end up being getting removed, they just kept neglecting them. Guess that gave us automated buffs for aram, so... I suppose we're stuck with - + 20% dmg reduced/dealt akali buffs, yay

I've always wondered what happened to Twisted Treeline, I wish they hadn't removed it and had gone ahead with these other ideas. Great video man. Damn you RIOT.

Great video gbay

To be fair, Snowdown Showdown took more time to find a game, select champions, load the game, than te whole match itself. Sometimes, you could win before lvl3, which would make the experience a bit frustrating, because you just entered the game and now you have to complete the whole process to play again

There are so many amazing game-modes going to waste. I've been dying to play Ascension, Blood Moon, and Siege. The worst part is, now that the boards are gone, there's no way to voice displeasure. Most posts on the subreddit that paint riot negatively get deleted, so players have no input anymore. Other players have told me they really want the PvE gamemodes back, like Doom Bots and Star Guardian.

I swear there was a different showdown map on the OCE server once. It was a tiny 1v1 map mode on a bridge and the orientation was a bit different than the ARAM map, thinner. It was only there for a few days. It can't have been a fever dream

Just imagine the possibilities for a 1v1 game mode. player skill at least in solo lanes would accelerate a lot quicker as you can practice 1v1s against more matchups more often and get more practice on a champion or matchup than you could in 5v5. It also creates a quick 5 minute game mode that I find myself wishing for very frequently. I think a 1v1 mode could be both a very good practice tool and fun game mode people go back to since it's such a short and easy commitment.

They could still add the Showdown ruleset as a custom gamemode. The interest level doesn't even matter if it's a custom, and would only serve to help the community who's already creating these events.

i love this documentaries but they make me so nostalgic and i feel sad after this failure tipe of videos :( i remember watching live that all stars event and getting so hyped to try the map SADGE

There really should be another permanent gamemode in league and I really hope they are actively working on making more. Smite for example has tons of maps and there is (almost?) always a rotating gamemode, and I don't think the game suffers from it. Even just having a gamemode or two extra available in customs would be really nice. It feels like Riot didn't give themselves or us enough time to explore things like the oddysey and star guardian gamemodes, and it's frustrating that they just completely dropped both magma chamber and nexus blitz. Heck, even dominion or TT could have been fun if they just paid a sliver of attention to them. I can only play so many urf games before I want to pull my hair out

8:58 Holy moly is Scarra that old?

Daumm I miss playing Hide and Seek on Dominon good old days.

Love you Gbay keep up the good work with the content :)

Fav youtuber you are amazing !! keep up

1 year later, Wild Rift now has a 1v1 mode where you select a champion, queue up and play against a random person who picked a different champ. Mirrot matches are rare

I do understand the reason a bit, although I think their metric of how much time spent in the temporary game mode doesn't tell us enough. However, if we take the example of a 5-minute 1v1 game compared to a 30-minute 5v5 game, the system has to match _more_ players per minute with (presumably) a smaller player pool than Summoner's Rift. If 1 SR game takes 30 minutes, and you usually have 10 simultaneous games running in that time, that's 100 players matched in a 30-minute period or an average of 3.33~ players matched per minute. If you take the context presented of players spamming queues -- which consequently _forces_ the system to find matches at very short intervals -- and you have 10 simultaneous 1v1's running every 5 minutes, that means 60 1v1's are ran per 30 minutes, or 120 players matched in a 30-minute period or 4 players matched per minute. The system is having to do _more_ matching more frequently with, as stated, most likely a smaller player pool since League's primary game mode will always have the most players. You could argue that the system doesn't actually need to do much matching because those same 120 players are the ones who keep requeuing, but then...cool? The game mode is limited to that specific player pool and that's it, and when they stop playing after 30 minutes' worth of matching, the queue is dead? That's not great. Or you could argue the system wouldn't have to do as much matching as SR because maybe 10 simultaneous SR games and 10 simultaneous 1v1 games is too bold an assumption. Maybe there are only 5 simultaneous 1v1 games. Okay but then the only reason for that is either the player pool is just outright smaller or the system isn't matching queued players because of the aforementioned issues. Arguably, the simultaneous games of 1v1 should be near SR given matches require 80% fewer players and, according to the video, players will be spamming matches. So a significantly worse number of simultaneous matches for a mode that requires significantly fewer players per match than SR just outright means the game mode isn't popular. If you keep it at 10 simultaneous games to at least keep it on par with SR, then the example provided in the video of someone spamming 1v1's for the equivalent time of 1 SR paired with metric of only 1% overall game time implies that the player plays in bursts and then stops queuing. So great, the player "cares" about the game mode a lot because he _iterates_ rapidly, but he's ultimately _not_ spending as much time as an eligible player as someone who plays SR might. Someone who plays SR might might play 2-3 games, so they are an eligible player for a total of 90 minutes in a mode that doesn't have to match as many players per minute as a 1v1. And if you really wanted to be a stickler about numbers, you could take the 1% figure of overall game time and use that to estimate someone spending 30 minutes as an eligible player for 1v1's is spending 3,000 minutes as an eligible player for SR since the 1v1 represents 1% of play time. Whereas someone playing just 30-minutes of 1v1's is playing "more" matches but is spending _less_ time in a game mode that requires _more_ players per minute. And people already complain about queue times in League's most popular game modes...

They can't rig your games in a 1v1. Riot will never approve.

Great video man keep up the good work And how do you record league in that 3D perspective And how does it work

I played Top lane Shaco on TT. This is the equivalent of saying "We all played jax down by the soda fountain." I am now old.

I just wish they let us use rotating game modes in custom games permanently. I think there are dozens of people might still play league if we could all piss about in custom. Some of my most fun was playing hide and seek on dominion, having a laugh in discord. If we could play urf on a whim (without having to support it with online queue, just custom), im sure people that hardly play would come back more often and have more options if they get burnt out from normal sr games.

I MISS THIS

Riot was wrong that people don't like new maps. HotS has shown it can thrive and be successful.

1v1 would've been so fun

i will say i love 3v3 ttl, loved the lane presence in that mode and how powerful i felt if i got ahead. it would be cool if riot implemented a solo 1v1 ranked mode just using HA

I know the regular map is most popular, But i freaking LOVED twisted treeline because i had exactly 5 other friends from my school and we used to 3v3 and mixed the teams Every Day after school. We played for stuff like pencils and ice cream cones the next day :D darn i wish we could turn back time

This video made me miss the hell out of Dominion. I used to have so much fun playing that and Twisted Treeline... now I haven't even been able to get myself to launch the league client in like 2 years. FeelsBadMan

Thanks gbay, now I'm pissed off about this lmao.

as a support main, a premade only 2v2 would be pretty cool. 1v1 is pretty useless when you only play support

21:15 "and try to ryze up" I see what you did there

I have to disagree with ranked measuring skill correctly. It only works if the player grinds enough games and treats the game as unfair (either analyzing their teammates or focusing on one strategy as opposed to just playing well). On top of that I am convinced that in any game the time of the day and week plays a big role, splitting the ladder into occasionally intertwining sub-sections that are wrongly presented and treated as one entity. With that said, for most players it is somewhat accurate in contrary to their beliefs.

thank you gbay