He also reused music from previous series.

@@bentonmarcum8924 But fair do’s, the music from most of these shows was great - well worth hearing again!

@@jaywalker1233 I wasn't criticizing the OP was talking about how Allen reused footage to save money so I mentioned he reused music too. It was not intended as criticism.

@@bentonmarcum8924 didn’t mean it as a rebuke, more of an aside..

Had "25th Century" been picked up, I'm sure they would have "shot a "real" broadcast quality" pilot. This was likely a "presentation film" which, on a slim budget, was intended to sell investors on an actual pilot. Thus the "parts out of the bin" contents. "City Beneath the Sea" was initially offered in this manner. First a 1967 "presentation film" not intended for broadcast, then the "deliverable" telemovie aired on NBC in 1971. And released overseas to theaters.

I find even with all the things you mentioned it was still....In con se quential

@nofrackingzone74 It’s not a Fiat Spider (nice car) but a Lotus Elan S2 - maybe 1966 (frameless windows) - with the popup headlights, distinctive door cutout, knock-on wheels, wooden dashboard and switch layout, passenger glovebox and footwell, and Springall spoked alloy steering wheel

Only a small budget "presentation film", so assembly from the parts bin" was acceptable. If the concept had pleased investors and the network, more resources would have been brought forth for a broadcast quality telefilm, maybe with more visuals and music unique to this effort (compare "City Beneath the Sea" test film 1967 with actual broadcast version pilot).

William Perez You are old

@@TonyDQT Old is GOOD if you get that far!

Enrique Sanchez Nah. No need too. 50 is too old already. There is no use after that except wasting space and causing inflation.

@@TonyDQT I have an IQ of 189. I built a laser when I was 12. What did your useless life do. I have a Doctorate in Theology and help people understand what the scriptures really state.

@@davidward1949 now if u can build a machine to quickly transport old people to heaven. that would be something to brag.

One of them woke up with a sore rectum

Eres un upupster

Ahora por esa ahuevazon seras odaeteled

Roddenberry's was much better. And Robert Lansing was cuter.

@@mariakelly1059 Roddenberry's was better, but James Darren is cuter.

Test film only. From the parts bin. If "green lighted, " a better "pilot" would have followed with adequate budget.

Robert Dambeck, the wardrobe dept. probably had at least one (AGT) awful green turtleneck, for "Tony Newman" for each day of a 5 day film shoot. Inside each sweater the weekday would be sewn in. Similar to the infamous "Day of the week" parties that Sears or Montgomery Ward catalogs carried for years. I remember seeing them as a kid & wondered who in the world bought them. They really cracked me up. I remember thinking how many folks wore the Monday pair on Friday. THIS IS JUST HILARIOUS !!!!! 🤣😂😆🙃!!!!!!!!! DO THEY EVEN MAKE THOSE THINGS ANYMORE?!!........... .

@@sandybulla5623 my mother had them.......😁

@@leilal8053That is awesome! If they still made them, I would have a set for myself now. They are "Crazy Cool." 😀🙃👌👍💙💚💛

This is "The Invaders" the Irwin Allen way.

​@@amerigo178True.😮

Irwin's go-to series in the wake of Land of the Giants were "these two": "25th Century" and "City Beneath the Sea". Yes, you're right overall. The 60s high camp and Action fantasy wave had crested. There really would be no place for this afterwards. Fizzle of The Invaders only made this more obvious. I'd like to believe that City Beneath the Sea might have had a slight chance if only on the drawing boards -- early 70s "weather" on prime time was blowing about with more conventional fare. But maybe "City" might have found a brief niche with water and tech, but would promoters find themselves in the same corner where Voyage Bottom Sea was when it needed bigger numbers?

+Bryan Briggs Unfortunately, that included a deteriorating standard of living and petty politics that achieved what riots and racism couldn't.

hey traveler

Baloney! Gene Roddenbury never used so much explosives - - for his cardboard and Styrofoam sets would catch on fire :-)

Irwin Allen ...ahead of his time? Yeah like obviously a few decades on there is a real land of giants, cheap cardboard aliens under the sea and a genuine tunnel through time in an undergrond lab! C'mon ...what planet or dimension do you come from to spout this stuff? Irwin Allen was the cheesiest of cheese and the wrongest of wrong in terms of scientific accuracy and prediction. I know they were all just cheaply made entertainments but still they could have made some effort. Its often possible to bend or have speculative science that still looks viable and keep a good story. In fact often they can improve it. Virtually all sci shows of the 1960s , 1970s where hopelessly wrong and in a way almost created a whole new category of 'anti-science' fiction.

@@bbbf09 You're absolutely right. Just listen to that Omeega (as opposed to OMEGA) 3 over infinity bullshit. Lots of recycled blinken lights, the hatch to the Jupiter II and its "navigation" system. Those cheesey 6250 reels for "honest" computing. The "pressure of teleportation through space". What I really dug was the kewl convertible they had stowed in James Darren's spaceship. Those english speaking aliens with the goofy ear lobes had real kooky taste. Of course they did! They were *500* ((GASP!!)) years more advanced!

Yes, Fox players frequently found on Irwin's shows...

What year was this pilot made?

Early part of 1968

😅Thank you, appreciate the background. Yes, I had overlooked the report that "25th" was considered to be introduced on Lost In Space. And thus a prospective CBS show rather than ABC. Probably, too, when Space stood a chance at a 4th year renewal.

This was a presentation film budgeted at only $100,000. It was necessary to use as many existing props and even artwork as possible. Had the response been better, a full pilot would likely have been commissioned, as was done with "Land Of The Giants" and "City Beneath The Sea". Unfortunately, 'City' didn't get picked up as a series.

Irwin Allen was famous for being a production cheapskate with later shows. It's why he was known by "the suits" as a great producer...

​@@RagShop1Thank you@! Nicely explained. Appreciated.🎉😂

​@@igorschmidlapp6987It's a presentation film only, for investors to consider. Irwin also could only spend what was allotted to him.

We should always retaliate against alien spacecraft that attack our gas stations...it's the American thing to do. Prices are through the roof already...I'd want an all-out attack if they tried that on a Dunkin Donuts!

I think you mean to time stamp this 12:21

+wdd3141 For some reason early computers had built in explosives - no one seems to know why..

+wdd3141 It gives new meaning to the term "touch-sensitive".

+wdd3141 As miniaturization went on, the explosive power of computers waned.

+Wafikiri As did Irwin Allen's take on the future as rooms could no longer be filled with flashing lights that did nothing at all.

They even used one the Jupiter 2 crashing scenes to depict the arrival of him on the 20th century Earth!

Test film. Intended to be on the cheap; purpose to sell the idea of an actual pilot to investors.

Aloha Karl. That's pretty cool. What was it like growing up as a Baldwin?

Lotus Elan, 1966 model

Yes, as a Time Tunnel devotee I'm asking myself that question all the time. A very grumpy member of SFWA wrote to TV Guide back in the day demanding an explanation on that!😮

Lotus Elan

Except Assignment:Earth was superior.

PLEASE...!!! Don't even compare this piece of crap to GARY SEVEN. You certainly don't know Star Trek, friend.

They were both produced around the same time, in early 1968.

Joe Dokes.

Also throw in Harlan Ellison's 'Man Without Time' (1969).

Lol!

I don't know why they load all electronic equipment with fireworks that go off at the slightest bump. After all the explosions, the equipment still seems to be functioning correctly so what is the point?

Yeah cars were an arseache also. They blew up after crashing right up until they sorted the problem in the late 90's, they found it was caused by a cinematic cliché somewhere in the fuel tank.

Gene Roddenbury didn't use this much pyrotechnics, his cheap sets of styrofoam and cardboard would catch fire ;-)

*Yes. Welcome to Irwin-Allen! The literally **_owned_** bad television in the 50s and 60s (and part of the 70s too!).*

True enough!😅

Appreciate your comment. Irwin was attempting to introduce a number of series as the 60s fantasy action wave crested -- this one and City Beneath the Sea. The Networks were moving fast to return to more conventional fare. But who knows? As a midseason replacement? There was potential here, appreciate your seeing it.😮

Lotus Elan - who knew?!?

That's John Crawford. Lots of Irwin Allen shows. And in Trek OS, "Galileo 7".

Yes. But this was only a small budget presentation film. A better showcase should have come with investor approval.

😮!

😢!

Test film, made with parts bin parts. A better pilot may have come forth if investment did.

Based on the " Gary Seven " character from Star Trek episode " Assignment Earth." Or " Dr. Who." In my opinion.

Well said!🎉😮😅

😮Indeed! The fantasy action wave had crested by this time, and the TV environment might not have been favorable. Would likely have to ride on the appeal of James Darren. Hopefully it could have been a well crafted "one season wonder".😮🎉

theironclads "Assist" has different connotations. You can "help " someone into their grave. Gary 7 was sent to prevent a nuclear holocaust. It says nothing about why the aliens wanted the Earth population preserved It could have been "To Serve Man."

​@@georgee.williams1449Robert Lansing would never be involved in such a horrible thing!

​@@georgee.williams1449Good Lord! You might be right!😂

​@@mariakelly90210I hope you're right!😮😅

It's easy to see why.

Interesting. Thank you. If recall serves, Daktari got shifted from.its hit Tuesday night slot.. to Wed. after CBS dropped Space. But it lost the battle against the new Here Come the Brides and the veteran Virginian. Likely would be "25th Century s" fate too.😮

In the Lost in Space TV series, they do mention in one of the early first season episodes, that the first time they needed to ride in the Chariot, they had to assemble it; the implication is that it was stowed in kit form in the Jupiter 2.

@@neilruedlinger4851 That was the "full sized' mockup of the Jupiter 2 that was used in a few episodes of Lost In Space. The detached landing legs were used in many more. What a shame that the prop was destroyed soon thereafter... it took up a lot of space in the 20th Century Fox backlot.

@@SDK-im8sl Space is always a problem - reminds me, I must clear out my loft…

That's for sure!😂😮

"Short Circuit Porn"-- yes, clever!😂😮

In the original Star Trek TV series, from the original pilot 'The Cage', the Talosians can talk. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r9BjedOUmNLJqZ8.html

Aliens are often like that. Just watch Plan 9 from Outer Soace! ;)

The aliens never said they were without emotion. They merely regard Terrans were a immature species in comparison to themselves. Nevertheless, you're right the aliens' belief they are more advanced blind them to their own emotional weakness and arrogance.

Wasn't that Roy Rogers who rode the horse named Trigger?

hahaha

Interestingly, "Tonio" was supposed to be introduced on a never-produced episode of "LOST IN SPACE", where he meets the Robinsons on his way to Earth.....

Other causes of long-term memory loss may be the result of damage to the brain. ... These causes of memory loss include: drug and alcohol misuse, serious brain injuries, and concussions.

This was only a "test film". It would have been interesting to see what a "fully financed" pilot would have looked like.

Indeed. SF always chancy on the Networks back in the day. If fate had smiled on it, there was something to work with.

As noted, idea was to spin it off of a Lost In Space episode. Also at the time, Lost In Space appeared to be in the safe bet for renewal, and the SF Wave on the networks hadn't quite crested yet, but it would quite soon.

Parts bin was raided for the making of a test film. If investors were impressed, a better equipped actual pilot would come forth.

Not a Porsche - Lotus Elan

Far livlier!😂😮

FortOmnicron54 Irwin Allen was a very cheap person. Soon as shooting from one show was finished, he'd take the props and use them on another show. Sometime without modifying it. And of course this included the musical backgrounds scores, etc. In the documentary "Pioneers of Television", they showed all of the craziness that went on at the studios, while Irwin was making these shows and some of his antics.

FortOmnicron54 This was a test pitch for network execs to get the idea of the proposed show if and when it would be given the go ahead to go into production. So some scenes had only artwork and re-used a lot of stock footage from other shows. Basically if you had a spaceship shot in space you could lift it from a previous show. But the exec's knew that it would be replaced with a new shot. In the Land Of The Giants pitch they again used the Jupiter 2 and shot a few scenes with the little people. But that show was green lit so they built a new spaceship one full size and several scaled miniatures. Irwin did this for all his shows, as many others did as well. Sometimes the network liked something but still showed their advertisers if they would like their product or service played on a proposed new show. If they got enough commercial/advertising money. A show could go into production even if the network didn't think much of it.

This was just a short demonstration Pilot. It would have been ridiculous to spend money on creating props and sets that might never be used; all that could be created later if the concept was picked up by the network.

See Reticulun below. This was only a low priced test film, not an actual pilot. Purpose to draw on investors interest.

​@@atlien4life284Irwin could only spend what Those At The Top gave him, alas.😮