The Marauders: Boring but significant

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Mr. Bones 40k

Mr. Bones 40k

10 ай бұрын

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@jammedtuba7820
@jammedtuba7820 10 ай бұрын
WHITE SCAR SUCCESSORS LETS GO!
@thegingerheadperson9959
@thegingerheadperson9959 10 ай бұрын
WHITE SCARS NUMBER 1
@ScottAT
@ScottAT 10 ай бұрын
Mantis Warriors are cool. Kinda strange but they at least use green and olive instead of colors like purple and gold… so there ready for a battle and not Disco Music. Emperors Children look like The Bee Gees …..
@Shitbird3249
@Shitbird3249 10 ай бұрын
Gotta go fast
@rycolligan
@rycolligan 10 ай бұрын
“Old Painless” is the name of the Gatling gun wielded by Jesse Ventura’s character in the movie “Predator”.
@TheBoneZone40k
@TheBoneZone40k 10 ай бұрын
that is pretty interesting, maybe it's a reference?
@Kem1st
@Kem1st 10 ай бұрын
Dammit! Beat me to it haha!
@jidk6565
@jidk6565 10 ай бұрын
​@@TheBoneZone40kit's gotta be a reference I adore that
@rocketmandan5524
@rocketmandan5524 10 ай бұрын
Love learning about obscure/undeveloped chapters. Cant wait til your video about the badab war, as I'm starting a salamanders army and saw their weird original concept color scheme from rogue trader. god awful in an amusing way. i think they quietly changed them to green, then said their awful scheme was just for the badab wars.
@Trex-wf6ko
@Trex-wf6ko 10 ай бұрын
more specifically badab vets have the old scheme as a patch on their armor.
@rocketmandan5524
@rocketmandan5524 10 ай бұрын
oh shit thats cool. ive got to implement that into my army i just started. wanting to collect various classic models and have them form a tactical squad. unless theres a gameplay thing keeping me from making them veterans, i can do that to the old first borns, and have a rag tag squad of different editions@@Trex-wf6ko
@CaptainPrincess
@CaptainPrincess 10 ай бұрын
Recently discovered the Dark Krakens and theyre my new favs of all time Theyre Salamanders who switched out the fire theme for water and darkness, like literal darkness in that they apparently run their ships without lights and use glowing paint from bioluminescent sea-monsters to paint directions and markings inside their ships and insignias on their armor Super cool
@greymannemo7565
@greymannemo7565 10 ай бұрын
"Old painless" on the arm holding a weapon based on a Minigun, gotta love that reference 😂❤😂
@underwaterspaghetti9329
@underwaterspaghetti9329 10 ай бұрын
I love this series because I can learn about all these funky, lesser known chapters. Also because it means eventually you’ll talk about the Iron Hands, which it seems nobody ever wants to do. When you get to their successors, I recommend checking out the Brazen Claws. They’re pretty cool.
@robrib2682
@robrib2682 10 ай бұрын
To be honest with how much they come up in most plots something tells me that most people don't even want to write about the iron hands even though they are so right for interesting stories and I haven't heard of someone fully explore the implications of then having their Primark killed at the drop site massacre and how much more traumatic that would be to them as a whole
@anonme2348
@anonme2348 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, there will be the same problem he had here in this vid, in that there isn't a whole lot of chapters, those there are don't have a lot of lore. That said, there are some I can see Arthur getting his teeth into. The easy bet is the Red Talons as that seems to get some youtuber lore and they are part of the pentarchy of blood. Brazen Claws are a good one, and he could get some mileage from the Sons of Medusa. But the one I would really like to see Bones tackle, are the Steel Confessors since it's such a bonkers concept.
@iam_sriracha2400
@iam_sriracha2400 10 ай бұрын
Hysterically lost it at the yellow mustard
@pigeon4x250
@pigeon4x250 10 ай бұрын
Pretty interesting I had never heard of this chapter, but I like their vibe. Please continue covering chapters no one really talks about though. I crave more of that content!
@notsoberoveranalyzer8264
@notsoberoveranalyzer8264 10 ай бұрын
My dogs name is Kubali Khan. So, while yes he is the Emperor of all Mongolia he also has Primarch blood, I know this because of his extreme stumpy thick legs, and wide frame. So, anything and everything to do with the White Scars is interesting. And I don’t know about others, but I would really like to hear more and more about these sorts of chapters.
@sharkbait2103
@sharkbait2103 10 ай бұрын
I actually have a army of marauders. Reason I started them is that they are steeped in intrigue and mystery. I do agree with you they aren’t fleshed out as much as they could but I do like that about them. Stealth, marksmenship and lighting fast attacks are noted to be their style of making war. They are also mentioned to act ‘aloof’ to other imperial forces.
@chrisbrown8381
@chrisbrown8381 10 ай бұрын
Awesome video man, great to see some love for lesser well known chapters, hope you have a great day!
@DeathFaN88
@DeathFaN88 10 ай бұрын
Would of went with dark hunters. Cause they have alot lore and a cool colour scheme but I totally get the vibe you were going for with this. Pleasant surprise
@kaleb2643
@kaleb2643 10 ай бұрын
I want to see the Mantis Warriors, Lamenters, and Executioners team up for revenge against the Red Corsairs
@YellowHornet42
@YellowHornet42 10 ай бұрын
Very nice man! I like you going into more depth of more niche chapters. When you get to the Salamanders I’d like to hear more about the Krakens as their successor! Keep up the great work!
@TheXenomorphwarrior
@TheXenomorphwarrior 10 ай бұрын
Im super excited for whenever you choose to do a Minotaurs episode, I’d also hope to see some of your models
@kjf5212
@kjf5212 10 ай бұрын
This was still cool. I listen to you every Thursday during my break. When i see a new upload i say to myself, "Oh shit that new Arthur just dropped."
@MechaTheSpider
@MechaTheSpider 10 ай бұрын
I'd love to see a video on just lesser known chapters that are interesting but don't have much lore, like the absolute beasts the Steel Confessors. Admech making their own Skiitari space marines? Yes please.
@jestinjeffries9430
@jestinjeffries9430 10 ай бұрын
Loved the video boss man. I love learning about the obscure chapters and weird tidbits of lore that i haven't read in the novels or found on KZfaq, it has been decades since i read any of the Codexs so I have forgotten some of the stuff I once read and most of it is out of date. Happy to be a supporter your are my fourth KZfaqr that I support now. I enjoy getting a different point of view on the lore and on subjects that I don't get to learn about very often. I have two bookshelves dedicated to just 40k novels. My stack of shame of novels that I haven't yet read rivals, the gamers unpainted miniatures pile of shame. But there is a lot I don't read so that is why I support and watch channels such as yours. Between supporting channels such as yours, buying the novels I get to scratch my 40k itch and save money, and time in the long run. Keep up the great work big man, you bring a smile to this crusty old War Vet's face. On a side note in reference to your D N D Video my father in Law used to drop Acid with Gary, so when my wife started playing in high school, his only reference to the game was with drugs so he freaked out and thought that she was doing heavy drugs, and threatened to make her take a piss test LOL
@coltonberry985
@coltonberry985 10 ай бұрын
Why do I sense you’ve hung around inmates by your introduction 🤣
@jestinjeffries9430
@jestinjeffries9430 10 ай бұрын
@@coltonberry985 I will have to plead the 5th on where I picked that up from .LOL. But I will say that 10 years on Active duty you do pick up a lot especially when you split the time up between the Marines and the Army
@blackwolf671
@blackwolf671 10 ай бұрын
Fun internet fact, the FFG Death Watch writer responsible for the Storm wardens (Alan Bligh I think, but it might have been John French) gave an interview one time, when they brought up the Primarch for storm wardens his reply was basically "gun to my head if I had to choose - white scars successors." Maybe don't quote me on that, I looked And could not for the life of me find the interview again, but looking up old Alan bligh interviews is probably worth it in general.
@mochatoast887
@mochatoast887 10 ай бұрын
I love this series so far! I agree people should show the successors more love, I feel as if so many lore channels (but yours obviously) just talk about the 1st Founding chapters. Then they do all 20 legions and just start talking about other topics like primarchs and fan theories.
@IronCow8
@IronCow8 10 ай бұрын
Really love to see some obscure lore instead of the standard video topics you find on most 40k chanels. I knew of the mantis warriors from the great series Arch did on the badab war, nice to know a little more about their origins.
@theodorehodbor5080
@theodorehodbor5080 10 ай бұрын
Whenever you do another faction focus you should talk about Genestealer Cults or frankly just Genestealers in general. I'm kinda a new player in the hobby but from what I've seen Genestealers were like one of the OGs in the entire setting and I feel like it'd be interesting to go over how they and their cults have changed and evolved over time.
@steveo9284
@steveo9284 10 ай бұрын
'Captain-brother: Franz Heinz, we must catch-up to Colonel Mustard!'
@paulellington1505
@paulellington1505 10 ай бұрын
Old painless one the side with the rotator cannon is a nod to Jesse Ventura in the first Predator movie where he used a mini gun he called old painless.
@Mr.Praetor
@Mr.Praetor 10 ай бұрын
Bless my bois The Mantis Warriors - another White Scars successor Chapter. There is a fun short story about their Chapter Master being put on trial after the Badab War
@cooldudeninja0219
@cooldudeninja0219 10 ай бұрын
I'm gonna be honest I never or rarely hear a word about this kind of stuff from other youtuber though my understanding of warhammer comes from a few people being Luetin, Weshammer, Isyander & Koda (that the channel name), and the shorts from Astartes Anonymous. Your kinda my fifth warhammer guy who gives that more honest or down to earth vibe while talking about warhammer, I'm getting kinda distracted but in my opinion yeah I think you should continue stuff like this I find it pretty interesting and could be something to bring in more people!
@strigoi_guhlqueen8355
@strigoi_guhlqueen8355 10 ай бұрын
Would love to see some niche chapters explored
@anno-fw7xn
@anno-fw7xn 10 ай бұрын
Cant wait for the iron hand scuesser chapter
@catcadev
@catcadev 10 ай бұрын
Great video! Only thing is the art for the background looked so wrong to me. I think it's the pauldrons.
@monferno1
@monferno1 8 ай бұрын
Just got to Scars in Horus Heresy, and honestly love the white scars now
@locomotivevoice
@locomotivevoice 10 ай бұрын
I love hearing about obscure successors, they must be seen!
@ITheOneEyedKing
@ITheOneEyedKing 10 ай бұрын
Yeay more warhammer content for work, outstanding work gentle-sir ❤
@nicholasgucwa2065
@nicholasgucwa2065 10 ай бұрын
Super pumped for the Worldeaters successors
@captainpanic3616
@captainpanic3616 10 ай бұрын
Wait do the world eaters…have successors?
@georgesulea
@georgesulea 10 ай бұрын
Great video, and yes, we need more White Scars.
@ScoutXdude
@ScoutXdude 10 ай бұрын
Would love to see a vid on the Badab war; despite it being such a huge event I rarely hear much about it other than the initial “Carcharadons vs the Lamenters!!!” and that Huron didn’t wanna pay taxes.
@Sephiroth36977
@Sephiroth36977 10 ай бұрын
I'm very new to 40k, so I have no real knowledge of the Marauders. I have heard of the Badab War, I know it's a thing that happens. But in terms of actual lore I am on Fulgrim (HH book 5, not the Primarch one... incidentally the same book you referenced for the Eldar video, and I'm not even up to the part with Eldar...) Sometime in the future I will have to go back through so many different lore videos once I've actually caught up with the books. I'm just happy to be here. Also that flaming sword logo is awesome, from Star Wars to World of Warcraft to DnD, flaming swords are kinda my thing.
@deathbytouch4252
@deathbytouch4252 10 ай бұрын
To be fair… the lamenters and mantis warriors had no idea about the astral claws ideologically drift from the imperial truth….
@kaitracksmalgom
@kaitracksmalgom 10 ай бұрын
Speaking of not well known successor chapters Want to do a vid on the iron sceptres They are dark angel successors and I can’t find anything on them
@LordCrate-du8zm
@LordCrate-du8zm 10 ай бұрын
You'd think that there'd be enough yellow space marines by now... WHERE ARE MY PINK ASTARTES GW?!
@TheBoneZone40k
@TheBoneZone40k 10 ай бұрын
The Flawless Host are pastel pink with slight purple, and are not the Emperor's Children so there is that.
@LordCrate-du8zm
@LordCrate-du8zm 10 ай бұрын
@@TheBoneZone40k Wow I didn't expect you to reply! Just checked and yeah, the Flawless Host _are_ pink. I guess it's too snazzy of a color for any Loyalists to use.
@harrisonrobinson8552
@harrisonrobinson8552 10 ай бұрын
Love the vid, when we getting the emperors spears?
@GNerdful
@GNerdful 10 ай бұрын
funnily enough, I used to do that citation trick when doing my degree
@bitterbrush2377
@bitterbrush2377 4 ай бұрын
I need me that Badab War episode!
@churlish7851
@churlish7851 10 ай бұрын
Old painless is a predator shout out. Jesse venturas character carries a mini gun nicknamed ole painless
@bunnydexter7178
@bunnydexter7178 10 ай бұрын
I wanna see a video of oatmeal scurrying around your bed😊
@thesaltysandvich9257
@thesaltysandvich9257 10 ай бұрын
Are you gonna do a video about the Red Talons?
@Bread-nx9fo
@Bread-nx9fo 10 ай бұрын
White Scars are very underrated, wish they got updated stuff.
@anaveragenightlordsfan
@anaveragenightlordsfan 10 ай бұрын
Can you do the crimson fists next? Might as well talk about the original poster boys.
@rexxo4957
@rexxo4957 10 ай бұрын
Mr Arthur's back for another lesson yaaaaay
@evanfish4505
@evanfish4505 10 ай бұрын
If we contine, he will eventually elucidate the deeds of the Crimson fists...
@MEXICANSHARK8146
@MEXICANSHARK8146 10 ай бұрын
i think i heard that you said that this chapter has a sardonic kind of humor, i must i never imagined space marines with humor, but from what source you got or only from the dreadtnought image, and also when i think of a space marine with sardonic humor i imagine this scenario: space marine is hit very badly and looses his left arm marauder runs to him marauder: Brother! space marine: what is my status brother marauder: well..we can say you are all right... (akward silence) space marine: why brother it simply came to mind and i loved it
@ElJorro
@ElJorro 10 ай бұрын
I wish more books were dedicated to the more obscure chapters.
@lupisvolk2420
@lupisvolk2420 10 ай бұрын
"Generic yellow space marine" *cries in Lamentor*
@hgjjui8159
@hgjjui8159 10 ай бұрын
Will you cover the carcharodons
@RSBurgener
@RSBurgener 10 ай бұрын
I sometimes wonder whether some of these are the homebrew chapters of GW employees back in the day?
@reaperfrost8
@reaperfrost8 10 ай бұрын
In regards to how you study lore that's actually how most people do it, look up Wikipedia of that chapter head off to the citation area and get the info from there, this mostly to avoid using second hand or probably third hand sources.
@IMASAURUS1996
@IMASAURUS1996 10 ай бұрын
If ADB does a book about loyalist Space Marines it should be the Marines Malevolent.
@jamiearmstrong3487
@jamiearmstrong3487 10 ай бұрын
Mantis Warriors Art, nice.
@363AJFTW363
@363AJFTW363 10 ай бұрын
You gotta talk about all the drama between the iron hands successors
@GUMMRUCHK
@GUMMRUCHK 10 ай бұрын
You know who needs more love? The damn Iron Hands like there is almost nothing to read about them.
@fatrhino
@fatrhino 10 ай бұрын
It’s good to see lesser chapters covered
@myonlyfriendtheend4958
@myonlyfriendtheend4958 10 ай бұрын
BADAB WAR HYPE BABY
@remusventanus5127
@remusventanus5127 10 ай бұрын
You should do marines malevolent
@Xgdtss
@Xgdtss 10 ай бұрын
The MVP of the Badab war were my boys the Star Phantoms. They are the loyalist mirror opposite of the Salamanders. Emotionless aim for maximum casualties
@ariels3372
@ariels3372 6 ай бұрын
white scars are mellow on dat stuff mantis never went chaos
@PandorasFolly
@PandorasFolly 10 ай бұрын
Excellent! I like your 2nd founding series better than even your 1st founding series. Mauraders are cool. Always headcannoned them as faster imperial fist with a sense of humor. Can't wait for the cursed founding series. Wish there was more info on my boys the Sons of Antaeus. The Xbox hueg marine chapter
@shilanobed9228
@shilanobed9228 10 ай бұрын
tbh, the only thing i want to see is the reactions of the eldar to their sense of humor (it would probably look like an angry fulgrim moment lol).
@ProfessorOfPoorTaste
@ProfessorOfPoorTaste 5 ай бұрын
Would like to hear more about the Mantis Warriors.
@_NO_ONE_410
@_NO_ONE_410 10 ай бұрын
If you ever do knight house can you do house Drakkus they are my favorite knight house and I can’t find anything about them
@artenrouge6950
@artenrouge6950 10 ай бұрын
Love your channel. One thing you may not be aware of: to my ears, you keep saying "weary" when I think you mean "wary". Or maybe it's just a regional accent I'm unaware of?
@musicalDrebin
@musicalDrebin 10 ай бұрын
the reason i want scouring books, is because all the second founding chapters we hear about are just the ones that still exist in the 41st millenium. even at the end of the Heresy there were still tens of thousands of space marines in a good chunk of the legions, minus the salamanders, so if they got sub divided by 1.000 that would mean we're missing out on hundreds of others that came and went over the centuries
@ivanivanovic5586
@ivanivanovic5586 10 ай бұрын
If someone should write either white scars or successors, robbie mcniven could fit the bill. Speaking of white scars successors, there's one named dark hunters that had an interesting novel starring them, novel was called "umbra sumus"(incidentally, that's also their battle cry).
@PenumbranWolf
@PenumbranWolf 10 ай бұрын
You said that they had a dreadnaught with a gun named "Ol' Painless" and were a White Scars successor. That screams Cowboy Marines too me.
@popelite9926
@popelite9926 10 ай бұрын
I've been collecting white scars for a while now, but honest to the God Emperor i didn't know a single successor chapter from them
@abuelonya
@abuelonya 10 ай бұрын
Que buen consejo para los youtubers qué solo leen la wiki y ya se sienten loremasters
@mr.bigmeaty7577
@mr.bigmeaty7577 10 ай бұрын
*Marauder blows the head clean off an eldar ranger* "Nice try mate, but i'm the best!"
@Tboneman
@Tboneman 10 ай бұрын
What about the Relictors? Not sure if they're still around, but I remember them in a White Dwarf back in the day where they had access to some chaos weaponry, really riding that thin line between loyal and heretic.
@Darknessblade4me
@Darknessblade4me 10 ай бұрын
Didnt they raid an inquistorial vault or two? Pretty sure they are renegades these days
@Tboneman
@Tboneman 10 ай бұрын
@@Darknessblade4me Pft, who hasn't raided an inquisitorial vault these days?
@Darknessblade4me
@Darknessblade4me 10 ай бұрын
@@Tboneman the tau i guess?
@dyslegein
@dyslegein 10 ай бұрын
I've been asking around warhammer YT was asking about successor chapters of successor chapters for like the past month and suddenly I've heard like 3 different channels bring it up in the past few days
@K-Dawgg420
@K-Dawgg420 10 ай бұрын
Badab war was cool af, have you seen the camouflage? 😂 Iron hands successor: sons of medusa are obscure but cool. 🤔
@Heresy_Hound
@Heresy_Hound 10 ай бұрын
22nd founding chapters? Juat how many times did gulliman call a do-over?
@exactinmidget92
@exactinmidget92 10 ай бұрын
Khan pretty much told them to go back to the old pioneer days and be free. White Scars were never a unified legion till Khan showed up and even then not all pioneer companies showed up to the mustering.
@537zun4
@537zun4 10 ай бұрын
How about the shark guys? Also hi Arthur.
@ChaoticVoicesofAndreas
@ChaoticVoicesofAndreas 10 ай бұрын
Totally forgot about them! i will forget about them again. :^)
@g.sergiusfidenas6650
@g.sergiusfidenas6650 10 ай бұрын
Genuinely curious about which the Ultramarine successors he's going to pick, one that's are a carbon copy of their parent chapter? One of batshit insane ones? One that fell to Chaos? Or one of the "successors" that are almost 100% guaranteed to be gene sons of a traitor Primarch?. Lots of variety there.
@TheGreatAukGaming
@TheGreatAukGaming 10 ай бұрын
There's a lotnof chapters that have yellow as a part of their color scheme
@gavinflynn9345
@gavinflynn9345 10 ай бұрын
What are the odds that the Red Scorpions chapter is a successor of White Scars or one of the their second founding Chapters?
@nick0875
@nick0875 10 ай бұрын
I wish other Space Marine Chapters got more action and recognition in the lore. But usually it just sticks with the major chapters (Black Templars, Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Space Wolves and Ultramarines) even though logistically their numbers can't possibly cover the conflicts in galaxy they apparently seem to be involved in. For the case of the Ultramarines we should see a lot more action for their successor Chapters since I believe they have the most out of any of the 1st Founding Legions.
@thetalon100
@thetalon100 10 ай бұрын
Part of me wonders if these guys are descendants of Shiban Khan from the Siege of Terra series. He was a very Imperial Fist-like member of the White Scars, but as a member of the Brotherhood of the Storm there are some other candidates for him.
@jipowap
@jipowap 10 ай бұрын
Old Painless may be a M*A*S*H reference, specifically the original movie. Captain Walter Koskiusko "Painless Pole" Waldowski, dentist, finds he is going impotent and so chooses suicide. The title theme of the following tv series is base off the eulogy song "Suicide is Painless". Rather than a deadly drug, they give him some tranquilizer and put a young nurse in the large coffin with him. What I am getting at is the interred Marine might have been an Apothecary that attempted a suicidal act of defiance, only to be saved from the brink by a Sister of the Hospitaller.
@ThisIsYourGodNow
@ThisIsYourGodNow 10 ай бұрын
It's a reference to Jesse Ventura's minigun in predator
@randomomega9966
@randomomega9966 10 ай бұрын
I loik muh cool logo bois.
@cuubs
@cuubs 10 ай бұрын
strangely, eventhough ive been into 40k lore for a while now and watchung dozens of hours of content, ive never heard of the badab war
@sandforthesoul5686
@sandforthesoul5686 10 ай бұрын
I think a Mantis Warriors book would be pretty interesting.
@Frankfuckinhorrigan
@Frankfuckinhorrigan 10 ай бұрын
I’m not gonna stop asking when tyberos
@obtainablespatula5389
@obtainablespatula5389 10 ай бұрын
> they look like imperial fists without black trim around the shoulder pads You do know that the pauldron trim color is indicative of their company, right? Black trim is 5th company, same trim as the armor color is 10th company. There are marauders with black trim and imperial fists without it.
@harrytabom5331
@harrytabom5331 10 ай бұрын
BADAB CIVIL WAR MENTIONED RAAAAHHH
@jeanpierrepolnareff2356
@jeanpierrepolnareff2356 10 ай бұрын
I thought that the mantis warriors never fell to chaos And it was only the astral clause
@DaKdawg
@DaKdawg 10 ай бұрын
Went into a deep dive about the Badab wars and man...what an awesome conflict. The Marauders were always pretty dope, but yeah...they looked too much like Imperial Fists to me. Which is weird...you'd think there would be more yellow colored spacemarines, but maybe that is the prestige of the Imperial Fists? If anything their chapter insignia caught my eye as I was looking forward to branching out to other spacemarine chapters via a Deathwatch army. While the Deathwatch is super cool, it's harder and harder for me to justify them until the fallout of primaris and firstborn is done and gone. Even the Mantis Warriors are pretty vague, just being caught up in the Badab wars is their major feat? Always good to put credit where its due, but yeah. Some chapters are just there for the fan base to pick up and run with or otherwise remain obscure.
@akumaking1
@akumaking1 10 ай бұрын
Raptors and Space Sharks when?
@GrayderFox
@GrayderFox 10 ай бұрын
No immediate thoughts about the Maraudersw, but I do want to hear more about the lesser-known chapters. 40k is so loaded with obscure stuff like this, it's really neat. :3
@k.hogan-emmons3290
@k.hogan-emmons3290 10 ай бұрын
Speed speed speed speed
@k.hogan-emmons3290
@k.hogan-emmons3290 10 ай бұрын
Sorry I have now watched part of the video where he says there not as speedy
@deadeye9439
@deadeye9439 10 ай бұрын
Oooh can you do sons of antaeus next?
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