The Monitor For Cheaters

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4 ай бұрын

Luke and Linus discuss the various monitors and TVs at this year’s CES.
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@Mr.N0B0DY. 4 ай бұрын

Instruction: let's create a way to monitor cheaters Engineers: here you go, a monitor for cheaters

@Venomx-nb1jr 4 ай бұрын

Because cheating sells. It’s more or less like prostitution. It’s a technically illegal way to achieve a form of pleasure.

@kyletremblay5295 2 ай бұрын

This comment is so underrated

@rafaelmarkos4489 Ай бұрын

@@Venomx-nb1jrAre you trying to imply that sex work is morally analogous to cheating in competitive scenarios? I can see the legal similarities, but morally the two are fairly far apart.

@beckham3533 20 күн бұрын

@@rafaelmarkos4489both are shunned upon by society 🤷‍♂️

@rafaelmarkos4489 20 күн бұрын

@@beckham3533 That depends on what your social circle is - mine is fairly supportive of sex work as a profession. Yours seems to trend more conservative.

@originaldarkwater 4 ай бұрын

Linus proposing a dystopian surveillance nightmare for all gamers in order to prevent cheating...

@sunbleachedangel 4 ай бұрын

Which wouldn't solve cheating anyway

@Blaze6108 4 ай бұрын

TBH I think if AI gets bad enough that whole 'trusted computing' schtick will get quite attractive by comparison.

@ForOne814 4 ай бұрын

I mean, he is Canadian.

@T0ghar 4 ай бұрын

Probably easier to include cheat manufacturing and distribution under industrial sabotage, which it is basically (destroying many smaller game companies) and give the guys a nice 8-12y.

@ForOne814 4 ай бұрын

@@T0ghar I will gladly start developing cheats then, being on an American wanted list is a sign of prestige where I live.

@SaHaRaSquad 4 ай бұрын

Probably the only cheat detection that's viable in the long term is analyzing the behaviour of a player on the server side. For example checking for possible reactions of the player to things that should be invisible to them. Especially with AI anything on the client side becomes useless. Iirc one online shooter already does some tricks with fake enemies that look and move like players but are hidden from sight, so any player attacking them can be flagged as wallhacker etc.

@qunas101 4 ай бұрын

So, like Valve wants to implement their new VAC? Analyse players with an AI on server side. But everyone keeps crying about current cheater problem and begs Valve to implement kernel-level spyware, that would not even solve the issue in the future

@reD_Bo0n 4 ай бұрын

So true. Wasn't there a CoD cheat for PS, which uses Image Recognition to find the enemy head and then sends controller input to the console? How would you detect that with an Cleint-side Anti-Cheat, it's valid input, just not by a human. And thee modern web delivers the best training data for such a Neural Network. Just grab Pro players gameplay on Twitch and your cheat should behave more or less like them

@tdring10681 4 ай бұрын

this is one of the ways that it has been done to detect map hacks in Starcraft if they have a m ap hack you can see them click at random points on the map but they dont have vision so it's super obvious

@sunbleachedangel 4 ай бұрын

@@tdring10681I think your spacebar is broken

@tdring10681 4 ай бұрын

@@sunbleachedangel it is im saving for a nice wooting I just don't have enough yet

@matyi10012 4 ай бұрын

I dont play multiplayer PVP games anymore, well at least for many years now. I am just exhausted of the cheating in games. And it is not just cheating anymore, it is blatant rampant cheating and they basically do it in the purpose of ruining others game.

@zaiquiri1799 4 ай бұрын

Facts my friend. Not worth the headache anymore.

@jmtradbr 4 ай бұрын

I also don't play, but it's because is stressing

@Madnessnunky 4 ай бұрын

It's not even always about cheating for me, but the matchmaking, "skill gap" where 24/7 "pro gamers" party up and you get slotted in with noobs. It's basically a cheat code, like in League or HotS for instance. You want to practice a new role or play slightly off meta? Here's a triple diamond Grandmaster with his main for you! And his four buddies!!! It gets frustrating when the ONLY way to play is so heavily meta-centric and "spreadsheet" style that simply wanting to "have fun" with your game is almost a bannable offense.🤣

@ChrisRobinsonutah 4 ай бұрын

@@Madnessnunky "Given the opportunity, players will optimize the fun out of a game."

@ToyotaCharlie 4 ай бұрын

and if it's not cheating then it's the toxicity

@1337GameDev 4 ай бұрын

19:31 - With ai processing in the monitor -- you likely can upload/modify the AI so it can highlight things on screen -- eg: change zones to be higher/lower contrast, etc as well as increasing borders or even MINOR color changes so YOU can see things better based on personalized tests....

@Micromation 4 ай бұрын

The best part about 4k resolution is that it perfectly displays 1080p when you need to fall back on it to achieve higher framerates. I like 1440p as native but if I have to use upscalling, because apparently it's not possible to make optimized game in 2023-2024 then it gets iffy - upscaling not that great at lower resolutions unfortunately.

@woubulbus 4 ай бұрын

This is why I'm pretty excited for the 4k/1080p switching refreshrate/resolution monitors to become mainstream.

@Jakob3xD 4 ай бұрын

@@woubulbus bro they just came out.... thats far from mainstream

@woubulbus 4 ай бұрын

@@Jakob3xD yes. i know this...?

@TheGreatMcPain 4 ай бұрын

@@woubulbus Same, I've started to notice some TVs already do this. I personally haven't tested it yet, but the Hisense U8K apparently can do 1080p 240hz or 4k 144hz.

@ToreOnYouTube 4 ай бұрын

Ah yes, I too love PPI of 50! 😅

@mikejanson3052 4 ай бұрын

I wonder how good a VR experience would be with displays like this

@ckledzeppelin 4 ай бұрын

robocop targeting

@SolidSt8Dj 4 ай бұрын

If the bigscreen beyond and PSVR2 are anything to go by, then I'd say it'll be excellent

@woubulbus 4 ай бұрын

If the VR market only wasn't so neglected. My phone has a better display than my VR headset that uses less power and more than likely weighs less.

@Gatorz_Gaming 4 ай бұрын

@@woubulbusbecuse it takes a lot of prosessing to calculate position for your controller tracking

@nathanaelniklaus2981 4 ай бұрын

could not processing happen external, like a box transmitting the desired signal? Thinking about the new TV that is wireless@@Gatorz_Gaming

@Artista_Frustrado 4 ай бұрын

out of all the ideas to counter the Cheater Monitor & Linus had to think the most dystopian one

@ShaykNBlake 2 ай бұрын

I mean...he isnt wrong...

@FreakGene 4 ай бұрын

I mean this is technically the next level in cheating on monitors, as there is already a lot of games that don't have built in aiming reticles, yet we have a lot of monitors now that can display one on screen. I know I've seen one game that has said 3rd party reticles, or reticle overlays are bannable. But I mean thats always kind of been undetecable in the way someone could slap a transparent sticky note on their screen.

@TwinShards 4 ай бұрын

I'm fine with crosshair add-on built in the monitor as the gameplay impact is negligeable but the one Linus talked about would be ruining some games for sure.

@AlexanderTheAverage 4 ай бұрын

In my opinion, games should never have gotten rid of the crosshair. Monitors just had to add it back in.

@TheNewton 4 ай бұрын

pfffffft try and catch me with my scotch tape and thread putting a grid on the screen so I can measure cross map axe throws

@CheezMonsterCrazy 4 ай бұрын

Yeah, people were using scotch tape and a pen on their screens as far back as the late 90s for no-scoping and quickscoping in FPS. Always gonna be that subset of people finding some way to get an advantage other than practicing at the game.

@jefmoesy 4 ай бұрын

In tarkov that reticle is useless anyway since your gun sways and always shoots where it is pointing at, so not the center of the screen, but with the low time to kill seeing enemies with this wallhack that works as soon as someone is in your field of view would be really unfair for the people who dont want to play with cheats, as long as the non cheaters and cheaters have seperate lobby's i wont have anything against cheating though, then it's fair again.

@arkie87 4 ай бұрын

so bring shroud back with linus on the OLED and shroud on 60 Hz, 120Hz, 144Hz, etc...

@roberteltze4850 4 ай бұрын

Camera pointed at hands and monitor? Footpedals and an extra monitor out of view.

@Voyajer. 4 ай бұрын

Yeah, take a look at what students managed to do to cheat online tests during covid. A camera isn't going to do anything.

@Wynkrs 4 ай бұрын

For real though, I've slo Mo recorded my cheap 165hz monitor and you are pretty much seeing 3 frames at any given time. It'll be a minute until I'm out of college and can afford something better but I want that pixel response time / low persistance so bad now.

@gemstone7818 4 ай бұрын

we have known for a year now that OLED monitors have the lowest response time and the lowest ghosting, outpacing any LED monitor

@NavyDood21 4 ай бұрын

This just highlights why I wont play anything online for the most part. Because people will do ANYTHING they can to make a casual game miserable for everyone else. Its like having a guy show up to a poker game between friends and act like they are on some damn Vegas tournament table. I really hope shit like this doesnt take off, but I know that is just setting myself up for extreme disappointment.

@ryoukaip 4 ай бұрын

so true, single player games ftw

@Leodigarius 4 ай бұрын

Just putting this out there, modern cheats are lazy. Years ago, there was a massive push from cheat creators to make the fastest aimbot in the world, and the winner of that was 187ci for Call of Duty 4. You could tell who had the "good cheats" versus the "normal cheats" because of how fast it was, the fact that it would DDOS the RCON so admins couldn't ban players easily or quickly, and was rather expensive. It also required a fair bit of setup to do. Now, cheat companies have zero pride in their work and the only thing they care about is staying ahead of anti cheat just enough to tell people it's currently undetected. Even then, users are usually stupid and just activate everything without caring and get banned. Smart cheaters that only choose specific options that are unlikely to be commonly caught are the ones doing the most damage because they are there long term. This is why I no longer play PVP games. It's just a shitty experience.

@Rexhunterj 4 ай бұрын

Escape from Tarkov just added the ability to view the user profile of the person who killed you, this has exposed a huge amount of the 'soft cheater' you are describing. People buying cheats and using the least egregious ones and playing 'carefully' these people have THOUSANDS of hours in Tarkov, this means they have been cheating for several years or stolen an account that has been playing for several years (which is even more scummy) The thing is in CoD or CSGO if you die thats fine there's always the respawn/round to look forward to, in Tarkov you spend 10 minutes gearing up in the lobby, go into a match, run for 10 minutes and die to a cheater you had no hope of ever beating because they were perfectly positioned with the correct gun and ammo for the job. The nyou look at their stats and sigh with misery and close the game.

@TigerWon 3 ай бұрын

Linus team needs to do a new video on how much we can actually perceive in regards to fps. Maybe even add OLED compared to LCD. Still a huge misconception that the human eye can only see up to 60fps as if our eye is digital

@CitizenTechTalk 20 күн бұрын

Most high refresh rate monitors give you the placebo effect yeah? Higher resolution though is a different conversation up to 1440p. 4K is a literal scam for motion graphics and eye detection. 60-120 FPS (depending on eye age) and max resolution 1440p for motion graphics. Simple and scientifically proven. Really good comment mate! LMG aren't the most professional tech channel either. Gamers Nexus for actual and real facts only.

@jjames267 4 ай бұрын

When it comes to the ambient light sensors you mentioned. Wouldn't you want the extremely bright image to hit you when your eyes aren't adjusted because that's how bright things actually hit your eyes? That would make it more realistic. We just need all scenes and parts of the image in rendering, cameras, post production, and displays (the entire process) to be calibrated to the actual brightness that they are in the real world. So, an interior scene would be just like you see in your house or at the bank. But then, when you go outside you are hit with sunlight when the ground is covered in snow and have to wait for your eyes to adjust. No dynamic brightness. Per-pixel lighting. Per-color phosphor (or whatever tech is being used) lighting.

@wotterthose4511 4 ай бұрын

so can you just make a shroud around the screens so they have the same visible dimensions as each other and just adjust the resolution and image position so it appears within the shroud? that way you could do a blind test

@bhuntin08 4 ай бұрын

If that monitor got support for World of Warcraft you would effectively get those addons back that blizz intentionally broke back during wrath of the lich king... The ones that would draw on screen where to stand for certain parts of boss encounters.

@joshuashear8664 4 ай бұрын

While something like this probably wouldn’t be detectable, future AI “enhancements” definitely could. If the AI is using sound to show someone behind a wall so you can wall bang them and you do so consistently, that is something that could be tracked. Companies are also working on server side AI anticheat to detect when various cheats are active through player behavior making stuff like this potentially detectable in the future.

@FlashySenap 4 ай бұрын

As an Anti-cheat developer meantioned. AI might be a good tool but is at least for a forseeable future not able to quickly resolve cheating. Anti-cheat models are super expensive and despite what many people think, its a lot of manual labour, rather than a system detecting cheats and banning accordingly. There is an AI anti-cheat in the process and they claim it can accurately detect like 98 percent or something... Problem is that it needs to be a 99.9999 percent for anti-cheat devs to consider it viable. as thats their error of margine. and the escalation would then probably be cheat developers creating AI cheats that can fool the anti-cheat AI.

@livipup 4 ай бұрын

What monitor are they talking about at the start? I tried looking up Samsung 360hz OLED gaming monitor, but I was getting a lot of different results.

@pieterrossouw8596 4 ай бұрын

Well if game servers had better matchmaking, I'd never have to play against people with paid software or hardware cheat tools. They'd just be in the faux godlike bracket and I'd be in a bracket with people who don't use these things. Serverside analysis of inputs should be used to help bracketing. Let the people who consistently take

@jyrolys6 4 ай бұрын

You're proposing difficult solutions with tons of negative side effects, primarily queue times. You can't be strict with stats based matchmaking. Yes good players sometimes play modes other than ranked. Also aimbotters are a small minority among cheaters, so the whole playerbase would suffer for a small dent in reducing hackers encountering average people.

@FlashySenap 4 ай бұрын

@@jyrolys6 Not to forget the fact that smurfing happens a lot. I remember playing siege back when I was a beginner. It had a "Newcomer" playlist for people who were below a certain level and most of the matches were smurfs and cheaters who had to re-level another account in order to play ranked. Tho the level of cheating feels like it has increased a lot as of late. Tho where cheating is mostly felt is in the higher ranked brackets. Really good players report experience of blatant cheaters 3 out 5 matches (aimbot, phasing through walls, flying etc).

@FlashySenap 4 ай бұрын

When cheaters gets banned, they just get a new account and have to go through the beginners and casuals until they hit the high bracket again, only to get banned again and redo the process. Smurfs are also a thing, as well as throwing to get to lower skilled player pools. And as mentioned, you can't have too strict matchmaking as it would make que times way too long and it would not be fun for anyone if they would have to sweat every game. Proper flow is to mix and match to give new and casual players a challenge and experience, and older players some breathing room to just play. and before anyone mentions it. same thing goes for new players and casuals. While it might seem unfair or bad, its creates that state of flow that keeps players engaged and they keep playing more. But it all wary depending on games. Casual modes are more lenient, ranked might be a bit more strict. cheaters will be prevalent on all levels but usually more common in higher skilled matches as they climb up there much quicker.

@kingminor 4 ай бұрын

I love watching the LMG clips, especially the moments I got to see live on the wan show!

@derstreber2 2 ай бұрын

Would this work to do a blind compare of two differently sized monitors? Play game in windowed mode and have a covering in front that is the size of the window. Pick a window size that will fit onto both monitors.

@krank23 4 ай бұрын

Here's how old I am: When someone talks about "gaming" I still primarily think of single player games first. The kind of hypercompetitive networked multiplayer gaming some people seem to have as their first association is for me like distant second, maybe even third. I never really got into PvP gaming and I'm still a bit salty the multiplayer bros that invaded the hobby first around Quake and then later with Halo and Cod kind of… won.

@themomaw 4 ай бұрын

All the incremental improvements on TVs was just nonsense. Literally the only thing in displays that looked relevant and interesting to me was Sharp's prototype of emissive quantum dots. I don't care how good OLED gets as long as it has burn-in problems, I'm not going to pay premium tech prices for disposable products. Emissive quantum dots promises to actually fix the problem that OLED has instead of just "Hey look our OLED is 25% brighter than last year".

@CallMeRabbitzUSVI 4 ай бұрын

This exactly, too much money for ehat will be trash in a few years

@georgeindestructible 4 ай бұрын

13:38 the game literally flashes the entire outer part of the screen with a red fading transparent color layer when you are getting low on heath, you just can't control the ration of when that happens of course.

@ggwp638BC 4 ай бұрын

20:20 - Or.... Riot can just ban people using that monitor. Simply consider it cheating software and banhammer on them. The monitor is visible to the system, it's not hard to do it. And sure, you can bypass this most likely, but if they just advertise that they are banning anyone using that monitor the sales will tank and manufacturers won't put it in their systems anymore.

@georgeindestructible 4 ай бұрын

16:01 Yeah right as if anyone could be persuaded to allow for that and buying hardware because a company made a way to to cheat in a minor way but certainly an easier one, but mostly importantly otherwise virtually undetectable.

@floor.mp3 4 ай бұрын

Yeah no I 100% agree with this. I haven't tried this particular monitor, but I went from a 165hz monitor to a 360hz one and let me tell you, oh my god, it's crazy. I tried CS2, Apex legends and Fortnite on it and I just couldn't miss, it's insane! And people say yeah you can't really feel a difference above 240hz, so I tried that as well, and you definitely can tell the difference.

@Korack 4 ай бұрын

Nvidea solution to the motion clarity, might be IA clarity reconstruction, available only on 50 series card with dlss 4.0

@juances 4 ай бұрын

IMO you have to consider that gaming as a whole has grown. There are more cheaters because there are more people playing overall. It's impossible to truly meassure but if we talked in percentages, I don't think the % of cheaters vs the % of legit players has moved that much.

@SelecaoOfMidas 4 ай бұрын

Recent credible survey shows that a small majority of gamers have used or currently use cheats. So, I'm not sure if that blows up the perception or not, but it should give you pause.

@zahidshabir4038 4 ай бұрын

that cheating monitor would be expensive

@SaHaRaSquad 4 ай бұрын

And yet it might still be cheaper in the long run as cheat software nowadays requires monthly subscription payments.

@Rexhunterj 4 ай бұрын

Dudes pay $400 for cheats every month on most games, they dont care if the monitor is gonna cost them $1000.

@daddydangerous20 4 ай бұрын

Please do a full in depth video on that monitor with regular people and also pros like shroud. Have them get aim labs scores and stuff so we can have metrics to actually compare how good this monitor is.

@Slidezy Ай бұрын

I use a Neo g9 super ultrawide for gaming. It's not an advantage over a 27-in monitor, but it's way more immersive. And playing on it on PC is still a large enough advantage over console on a 27 in. + I can run my console into the monitor as well as my PC, put them on their own 27-in screens. And essentially play split screen with two monitors if I have a friend over.

@OldPoi77 4 ай бұрын

I would love to see a new CRT company bring out a nice widescreen high refresh 4k CRT. These flat screens are sooo dead.

@cruzergg 2 ай бұрын

Have you experienced ELMB sync Linus? I wonder if it’s comparable to that monitor

@R3_Live 4 ай бұрын

i know next to nothing about monitors and color profiles and stuff but I do have an HDR monitor. I keep the HDR setting off because whenever I turn it on, everything becomes washed out and murky and gross looking. The vibrancy disappears and it's like I'm watching through a fog.

@Rexhunterj 4 ай бұрын

That's because nearly no games actually are designed for real HDR, they simulate HDR on the GPU shader level with some math to stretch out the colours to prevent banding.

@zornig2012 4 ай бұрын

Is it just me that can access the Wan show gear link?

@robertt9342 4 ай бұрын

That bright IRL reflection, I doubt you can see much detail in the shadows.

@jbp7005 4 ай бұрын

9:55 If I’m playing a singleplayer game that has a real emphasis on visuals and immersion, for example Cyberpunk 2077, I always use my Samsung S95B. There really is no beating the immersion you get on a big 4K TV.

@loganricherson3749 4 ай бұрын

I have wrist issues so I don't play with keyboard and mouse much anymore, but I especially don't for high immersive games for that reason. I much prefer just sitting on the couch with a controller and a big tv than being right in front of a monitor

@jefmoesy 4 ай бұрын

@@loganricherson3749As long as that TV has a response time of 1-5ms, everytime i play at family or friends i always have to adjust to the input delay since at home my mid/high end built has no noticable delay, my skills can be allot higher when there isnt like half a second delay when u press a button before something on screen happens. But people rather have a big screen with high input delay then a smaller one for same price that works like a gaming monitor.

@MinorLG 3 ай бұрын

I remember back in the halo 2 days, of running a modded lobbies, and specifically naming the game mode a custom name, so that it would bypass the ban filter. Back in those days, if you search for a game mode of glitch, 90% of the time it was a modded lobby.

@nelsing1978 4 ай бұрын

I find t hat 34" ultrawide is nice for gaming (granted i only had it a few weeks before that my main was a 32"). Most of the time the sides of the screen are rather pointless since i tend to hyperfocus when i play shooter games. But the extra space is great in so many games.

@rundown132 4 ай бұрын

32" is the perfect middleground

@darkbot081 4 ай бұрын

I really don't understand the cheatness of the features. It's not like monitor giving you information that you can't have normally. As Linus said it's info from players minimap

@MyxeQ 4 ай бұрын

Redo the Pro Gamer vs Blind Hrz comparison to see if your top player still get a higher ceiling from this new tech like they did with high refresh monitors in the past.

@Addaam1337 4 ай бұрын

I commented on that comparing player performance across different refresh rates, the dynamic range is so important in eliciting an action potential in the eye. I think I called it.

@B1u35ky 4 ай бұрын

When I got my lg c2 first thing I watched was lotr and the hobbit. Incredible in hdr

@cadenchurchill4296 4 ай бұрын

Solution to rid cheating with gaming monitors - ban playing video games with a display!

@CallMeRabbitzUSVI 4 ай бұрын

Easiest way 😂

@PavelPirogov 4 ай бұрын

IPS 27" 1440P 144Hz VRR HDR. I was pretty happy with it before I saw new OLED's

@matt0725 4 ай бұрын

Hey MSI, what the fuck?

@MsHojat 4 ай бұрын

If you want immersion you should just use a VR headset and play on a virtual monitor. And it's not like anyone is looking to be competitive while being immersed. I don't see the cheating monitor to be much of an issue. It points out what we can already see and most likely notice. Although I suppose mini-map stuff might sometimes be a bit hard to notice for some people. Might still help gaming more than hinder considering that this tech would be really useful for those with visual disabilities. And is hacking really easier than ever? I guess he's talking about cheating on an account that has no other games attached to it, and not registered with a phone number? Because otherwise they could lose all their other games couldn't they? Back in the day there was no Steam, and paid hacks were rare or non-existant. For that matter many games had little-to-no anti-hacking measures, and there were even essentially official hacking servers too(ex. Diablo).

@Wuerschtle 4 ай бұрын

You dont lose your games and youdont lose your account. You can get VAC banned, meaning you wont be able to play online any longer with that account but thats about it. Since most esports titles are free to play or extremely cheap, its not that hard to create a new account once in a while. Some games have implemented certain hurdles like having to play for an amount of time before being allowed online, but that doesnt help against many people.

@KiwiClawDHA 4 ай бұрын

27 inches as a small monitor >.>

@tavern.keeper 4 ай бұрын

It reminds me of putting a dot on the TV screen when speed running Golden Eye.

@CasepbX 4 ай бұрын

Took a while but monitors are finally catching up to CRT.

@kennyoffhenny 4 ай бұрын

I’ve heard that before. What makes CRT still competitive with even cutting edge WOLEDS or QD-OLEDS?

@pieterrossouw8596 4 ай бұрын

CRT monitors only still exist so that you can tell less hardcore gamers about your CRT monitor.

@ValenceFlux 4 ай бұрын

And so the equation grows in possibility only to try and once again reach simplification hmmm yes.

@leoSaunders 4 ай бұрын

MEG 321URX QD-OLED & SkySight confusing. there seems to be the terminology SkySight and ?AI? SkyLight

@Jayme 4 ай бұрын

I love my Dell 25" 1440p monitors. I don't think I'll ever go bigger or higher res.

@pieterrossouw8596 4 ай бұрын

Ever is a long time... I was happy for years with my 1600x900 21" el cheapo 60Hz display because my GTX 1080 ripped any game on it. I considered 27", then looked at 32" and finally got a good deal on a 35" 3440x1440 120Hz monitor. I'm glad I didn't settle at e.g. 27". Ultra wide might not be everyone's cup of tea but it so is mine between gaming and coding.

@averysahara8852 29 күн бұрын

Linus forgot the term diminishing returns for so long here 😂

@Alorand 4 ай бұрын

Here is my take as a person who hasn't played online multi-player in years: The real way that AI can help with cheating is by tracking when people stop having fun, or are frustrated. Then just isolate all people whose presence creates this effect.

@AstralDragn 4 ай бұрын

I think theres too many possible reasons that could cojoin and mess up innocent players. Also means that you'd effectively diverge your playerbase into two, a competitive side and more casual side, even more so by what strats they may use, which is what Ranked is for usually...

@sunbleachedangel 4 ай бұрын

Sure sounds like that's easy and would work and is practical

@CheezMonsterCrazy 4 ай бұрын

As someone who used to be really good at a very obscure game with a small community, I can assure you that would filter out anyone with an ounce of skill in addition to the cheaters lmao.

@altonb.1396 4 ай бұрын

@@ceciliacole5098Ofc its more fun for u to cheat seeing as u have an advantage nobody else does😂

@key099able 4 ай бұрын

Linus, I just played Evil West yesterday on my S95B and the lights where so bright my eyes hurt, tv's do not need to get brighter.

@colmustard5683 4 ай бұрын

Most games already have a screen change something or other when low heath...

@azuresflames2473 4 ай бұрын

Anti cheat with camera pointed at my mouse hand and monitoring the screen, Me: 2400 dpi with mouse acceleration

@jaderey467 3 ай бұрын

bruh 27 inches inst even a small monitor its actually the absolute biggest I would consider for gaming

@jashelps 4 ай бұрын

Half a year ago or so an ai aimbot cheat software came out that only needs to see the video source and was very accurate. People that can use these are using these and often going undetected since well realistically nothing wrong is happening. Online multiplayer pvp games are going to really really really strugglenquite soon where instead of skill it will be who has the better hacks. Older games like for example dragonball xenoverse 2 have this issue where you can just mod charachters to have stuff they can't/ shouldnt have and its just not fixable so people started splitting off. Old shooters like quakr, unreal,... all have plentybof easy hacks making it never clear if someone is GOOD or cheat good

@PeteTheL337 4 ай бұрын

Asus is leaves the bar sad and broken.. "But but what about ELMB Sync.. did nobody care?"

@GeneralFuct 4 ай бұрын

I game on 42" oled and I can't go back to anything smaller.

@IronJoeHorn 4 ай бұрын

32 inches is too big for a monitor for me. But I'm cosidering going from 4k to that 1440 monitor

@CitizenTechTalk 20 күн бұрын

I know you think that for sure and if I was still on a 27" high refresh rate 144hz 1440p monitor I'd totally agree with you! BUT I upgraded last year to an ASUS TUF 32" curved. Monitor and with all the extras like shadow boost and HDR etc has completely changed my FPS gaming experience now!! At distance at 1440p you can see enemies so much better and in scenic games it's mind blowing! It's just a massive pity about the cheating now as it just makes catching cheaters massively more easy now as well. So a double edged sword for FPS games but a life changer for beautiful games with stunning graphics at the same time 😂. But yeah if you upgrade expect to catch cheaters WAY MORE than you do on a 27" as the glitches, walls and aim lock aim bot (especially in Valorant) become undeniablely obvious with the larger high quality monitor.

@maweitao 4 ай бұрын

A TV matching the intensity of a 100W light bulb would be bright enough to be uncomfortable. Visualizing it, I can't help but wonder about potential downsides. Like poorly calibrated content or ignorant consumers accidentally setting their TV to full blast and constantly blinding themselves.

@CheezMonsterCrazy 4 ай бұрын

Software could limit how much of the screen could be that bright at any given time. Hell, that might even be a requirement for basic function since these screens would need to draw so much power they'd trip a normal North American circuit breaker if they were lit up to 100% full blast over their entire surface. Look at how much juice that TCL TV sucked back from the wall.

@Anna_Rae 4 ай бұрын

Its funny seeing people say 27 inches is the sweetspot. Meanwhile I play all my PC games on a 55 inch LG C1 lol

@DMSBrian24 3 ай бұрын

I had this idea years ago but ofc it was not viable to implement at the time. I suspected with time such cheating methods would pick up and kill many competitive games. You could do the same thing with audio in e.g. CS to reliably predict and display enemy positions.

@alancrome3684 4 ай бұрын

The only game I could see that could be a subscription based model are games that wipe.. If you lose everything then I wouldn't mind, paying for one wipe of tarkov, taking a break, then buying back in later down the line.. That would be dope. Meanwhile here I am with my $150 EOD tarkov acc that I haven't played on in 3 years xD (Played like 1.5 wipes)

@kmkbedsr7 Ай бұрын

Same brother... Same

@TheIrisCZ 3 ай бұрын

Apparently from the discussion on the podcast and the comments as well, I am in a tiny minority. But I LOVE 4K at smaller displays. In my eyes there is a huge difference between 1400p@27" and 5K@27" (already ancient LG Ultrafine). Despite the 5K panel being much worse in terms of image quality, the resolution and font clarity makes up for all the drawbacks including refresh rate and response times. Sure, not for gaming, but for work? Give me as dense display as you can and I am going to buy the s*** out of it. I guess the conclusion is - don't try to make a display that does everything. Give us something for work and something for fun. That way, you get, what you want for a price you can afford. If somebody started to sell 5K OLED 27-29" displays for computers, I would immediatelly buy three (or an ultrawide with equivalent resolution). Sometimes we get too stuck in a gamer POV (so do I with my OLED 4K@120Hz TV)

@primitifsound 3 ай бұрын

Can someone explain me what is Linus doing with his mouth at 16:13 lol

@tayga644 4 ай бұрын

oh, that monitor that shows where your getting tagged with rgb

@JP-hr3xq Ай бұрын

4k+ makes sense for big displays but honestly if you have a 32" PC monitor, 1440P is fine. And if you have a 24" monitor, 1080P is sufficient.

@HonestAuntyElle 4 ай бұрын

Thought this video must have been 6 years old. GSync Pulsar doesn't seem new? This is what geeks were geeking out about as soon as gsync came out... I remember because it's why i bought into gsync in the first place. But maybe it was fixed hz

@MegaMasher825 4 ай бұрын

If a monitor just draws attention to something thats already on the screen? Is it cheating?

@RyneLanders 4 ай бұрын

If it didn't provide an unfair advantage, it wouldn't exist.

@gammalpojk 4 ай бұрын

yes

@789know 4 ай бұрын

@@gammalpojkThen ultra wide can be considered cheat too

@svpracer98 4 ай бұрын

I have never been into PVP or team vs team games. I can't get my brain or coordination to work fast enough for it not to be a massive learning challenge. I'd much rather join a sim racing league and spend time learning a car and track combo.

@Gabifuertes 4 ай бұрын

Yes! Force everyone to have a camera turned on! That'll work great! Except people could use similar technology on VR headsets!

@Severice 3 ай бұрын

Backlight strobing sounds horrible. Its already been proven that the flickering effect of flourescent lighting causes eye strain, and i cant imagine this will be any better.

@curtiscrowethephotopro2453 4 ай бұрын

They set you up with an aim bot to make you think you were on fire because of the display

@to4217 4 ай бұрын

will never for the life of me understand why anyone ever wants to cheat. Like... do you actually have fun winning this way? Whats the satisfaction of winning and getting to a higher elo knowing you did not do it yourself or deserve it?

@Rexhunterj 4 ай бұрын

A lot of these people are sick in the head. Go look up videos of interviews with chronic game cheaters and you'll understand what I mean, they talk weirdly, they literally struggle to hold a conversation for 10 minutes without saying weird stuff and talking in circles around themselves to convince themselves of their broken logic.

@to4217 4 ай бұрын

@@Rexhunterj I mean, I get it for a solo game. Play it how you want. Sometimes it has value to experience the game in a different way and to just see the story faster. But for team games Im at a loss. Its like wanting to have a jet powered cleats in a soccer game so you can be faster, but only for you. Why even play?

@to4217 4 ай бұрын

@ceciliacole5098 not really. Theres far less challenge and winning is pointless. And you ruin the game for people that just want to play normally.

@CallMeRabbitzUSVI 4 ай бұрын

@@to4217To you but not to them

@FlashySenap 4 ай бұрын

There is a video I think about the mentality of cheaters. something about 4 types of cheaters. I don't know it too well but basically you have the cheater who closet cheat to either feel better about themselves and stroke their ego, or they feel like they need to cheat to keep up with the competition. Other cheaters do it to promote the cheats as its a huge market right now and cheat devs earn a crapload of money on it. And some finds the game enjoyable when they can ruin the game for others. seeing angry comments is what makes them happy. and as an interviewed cheater once said: they play the game with cheats as they got bored and find cheating a new challenge, for example of long they can stay undetected. But ultimately its an addiction. many claim that once they tried cheats they can't go back. Dunno how much truth there is to that but consider the fact that so many opt in to cheating, they are getting enjoyment out of it, be it due to their narcissistic tendencies, laziness, ego or just boredom.

@playeronthebeat 4 ай бұрын

Does that mean that VMs will be allowed again? Would really help if you wouldn't get banned just for using a VM as your PC. Not everyone is using VMs for cheats. And if screens are this good, then it really doesn't matter what happens on the machine itself.

@MGH727 4 ай бұрын

you can test the different sized monitors blind. you just need to cover the monitors and only show the middle.

@lush1us 4 ай бұрын

Think of this in any rts...

@wumbl3 4 ай бұрын

Peak nerd: moving the elements yourself on your stream to prevent OLED burn in.

@user-er4no6sb1v 3 ай бұрын

Im Rockin a Hp monitor from Goodwill

@Random-video 4 ай бұрын

I got 300hz laptop It’s pretty awesome mad frames way over 300fps

@jefmoesy 4 ай бұрын

I have 144 but most of my games are too heavy for my 3070ti to get to that, star citizen being the worst with 45-70 fps.

@LodanSD 4 ай бұрын

Time to bring Gavin back for another video!

@JamesJohnson-kl1eu 4 ай бұрын

Crazy a reputable brand like MSI is creating cheat hardware.

@pieterrossouw8596 4 ай бұрын

A little surprised too but honestly what differentiates gaming monitors really? If ASUS, Dell and MSI both ship a monitor with the same underlying panel made by e.g. Samsung... I'd take the Dell because I like the minimalist look. Some will take the ASUS because of the brand name and aggressive styling. Who takes the MSI? Don't really know, but soon cheaters might.

@remingtonrojas 4 ай бұрын

Lol msi monitors have had crosshair for years im not surprised

@permacultureecuador2925 4 ай бұрын

4k for gaming is so much better beyond basic arcade style FPS games.

@Rexhunterj 4 ай бұрын

I actually think native 4k is a waste. Most games waste GPU cycles these days, I actually render at 4k or 1440p depending on the game with NVIDIA's internal DL resolutions. Then it downscales the game and if I can I use DLSS. The result is a super smooth image with no aliasing or shimmering and the game actually ends up using most of my GPU cycles instead of idling at 30% all the time. A good 1080p monitor with 4k downscaled content looks way better than native 1440p. The fact that games don't allow the user to change the internal render resolution most of the time is a massive shame and waste of GPU cycles.

@permacultureecuador2925 4 ай бұрын

@@Rexhunterj for the games i play - native 4k is a major advantage. (escape from tarkov, squad, star citizen etc..)

@CallMeRabbitzUSVI 4 ай бұрын

@@permacultureecuador2925Been gaming at 4k for almost 10 years, loving every minute, never understood the 1440p hype

@Vadu1337 4 ай бұрын

thats straight up cheating, I don't care what MSI says...

@gamefreak2016 3 ай бұрын

what monitor is he talking about?

@mmseng2 4 ай бұрын

If a multiplayer game server is sending you any information about what's under fog of war, then they're doing it wrong.

@Iceman259 4 ай бұрын

Re: blind testing - what if you covered both monitors with a curtain or something and cut an equal sized window in it to use them through?

@Ctuchik 4 ай бұрын

There's just no point in playing anything online any more. Chances that you get killed by a cheater is now higher then the chances that you don't...

@pieterrossouw8596 4 ай бұрын

Don't have to play pubs, build/find a community and play within that. Wish all games had private servers that you can host yourself but for those that do, it's a blast having a LAN-like experience with the convenience of online gaming.

@CallMeRabbitzUSVI 4 ай бұрын

@@pieterrossouw8596Thats alot of work the vast majority of players will simply not do

@jefmoesy 4 ай бұрын

@@ceciliacole5098No it is not, it is boring as hell when u let the cheat do the gaming for u, best experience is playing against people with the same skill level without cheats, that way a kill feels like a accomplishment cuz U did it yourself.

@jefmoesy 4 ай бұрын

@@ceciliacole5098like in Vail VR i run into 2 cheaters that where on the enemie team, as soon they see your head u die, if i would instal that cheat i never even shoot at someone when in fact i want to train my aim skill to shoot someone with my real hands, if i use their cheat its just gonne be a roll of the dice who get who first, i might as wel go play dice then since there is no skill involved only luck😅

@Voyajer. 4 ай бұрын

@@ceciliacole5098 This is the mentality of the weak willed

@dan4logic500 29 күн бұрын

Almost nobody talks about specs for competitive gaming. Even though Fortnite Rocket League valorant COD R6S outnumber people who play cyberpunk hog warts name whatever single player game. They’re are thousands of KZfaqrs telling us how to run cyberpunk and 1440p please be the first big KZfaqr to show how to make Fortnite run at 360 fps

@nithia 3 ай бұрын

To be fair it is that weird grey area of cheating. It wont tell you that they are in an area you cant see like you wont be able to see an enemy in top lane when you are in bot lane. It just kind of makes it more obvious that they are there if you would have been able to see them in the first place. Likely a lingering indicator that is more obvious. That said when I went from one 17" screen to 3 24" screens, an unsupported resolution, I could see the whole lane I was in all at one time assuming we had vision on the lane. And no I did not go to three for LoL it was for MWO with a flight stick for a more immersive mech experience xD. The bigger question is how is this 'cheating' AI screen going to work in other games? Fortnite, CoD, Tarkov, rocket league, CS:GO, RTS games? Assuming it wont be able to see anything you cant see the biggest advantage would be in a game like Tarkov where you might not be able to see a guy hiding in a bush or peaking in a distant window but the AI will and it could outline them or at the very least put a red blob where it sees a threat.

@CubicIronPyrite 4 ай бұрын

Ghosting on LED monitors is the only reason why I miss my 77 lb 20" CRT monitor.

@Qwackin604 4 ай бұрын

And then theres me whos 1080p 75hz xD

@Rexhunterj 4 ай бұрын

1080p75hz gang, though I render at 4k and downscale to 1080p with the NVIDIA setup, since most games barely use 40% of my RTX 2070 Super, with the 4k running I actually see my GPU near 90% usage most of the time. DLSS on top of that (or FSR if the version of that is better at the time) to smooth out the aliasing that might remain and cut extra performance loss out by optimising the spaces that are all the sameish looking.

@pieterrossouw8596 4 ай бұрын

Nothing wrong with that though. These crazy Hz don't compensate for just playing smarter. I'm in my 30s, I'll never be a flick-shooter again - but I can still position myself where you're not expecting me and that works fine at 75Hz

@FlashySenap 4 ай бұрын

@@pieterrossouw8596 I went 122hz after playing 60 hz for several years... Once I did, I can never go back... Like 60hz monitors is noticably choppy for me now and makes gaming impossible. If you can manage with 75hz don't upgrade unless u really wanna, it will ruin you XD

@pieterrossouw8596 4 ай бұрын

@@FlashySenap I have a 120Hz display on my laptop and another 100Hz monitor. 60Hz is noticeably worse but 75Hz is okay. It's not like I can't see the difference if I look, it's that the difference isn't worth upgrading for of you havr an enjoyable experience. No one spends their time looking for the difference, they spend their time enjoying the game content and visuals. Most reasonable people would say upgrading from 144Hz to 165Hz isn't worth it, same with 165Hz to 240Hz etc. My argument is that most people who aren't super competitive will not get more enjoyment at 120Hz vs 75Hz. 60Hz can be fine too in e.g. 3rd person or RTS style games. It's only really flick shooters e.g. CS2 where you would benefit.