The MOST CONTROVERSIAL MVP IN NBA HISTORY

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Legend Of Winning

Legend Of Winning

Күн бұрын

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@juicebox8150
@juicebox8150 5 жыл бұрын
U did D-Wade dirty😂😂
@rondavis8310
@rondavis8310 5 жыл бұрын
Juice Box Dwade won the finals mvp
@juicebox8150
@juicebox8150 5 жыл бұрын
@@rondavis8310 Ik im talkin about who he switched from him to dirk
@armandr1613
@armandr1613 5 жыл бұрын
The crazy thing is Dwade averaged 27 pts, 5 rebs, 6 assists that year
@lukacalov1988
@lukacalov1988 5 жыл бұрын
and D Wade had better season than all of them why didnt he mentioned him
@bacardim390
@bacardim390 5 жыл бұрын
Juice Box Snapple facts
@X02Overdose
@X02Overdose 5 жыл бұрын
I like that transition you did introducing Dirk but showing Wade at first lol
@NameThatNobodyTakes
@NameThatNobodyTakes 5 жыл бұрын
Yep, really made me laugh
@thomaslin8273
@thomaslin8273 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah but I think both wade and Dirk deserve the mvp much more compare to Nash.
@cesarlaflame
@cesarlaflame 5 жыл бұрын
You really blew me with wade transition
@algorhythm83
@algorhythm83 5 жыл бұрын
That was funny and dope at the same time.
@poonking3628
@poonking3628 5 жыл бұрын
If social media was around in the 60’s then Wes Unseld’s MVP in 1969 would be more controversial.
@jtl4_videos
@jtl4_videos 5 жыл бұрын
true
@shemardavis8811
@shemardavis8811 5 жыл бұрын
Poon King what was so controversial about it???never knew
@aariesharris7894
@aariesharris7894 5 жыл бұрын
shemar davis he averaged like 14 and 14
@benepstein1366
@benepstein1366 5 жыл бұрын
Legendary outlet passes. One of the greatest fast break players ever
@poonking3628
@poonking3628 5 жыл бұрын
shemar davis LoL he was a rookie averaging 14 and 14 and beat out Willis Reed who averaged 22 and 15 and led the Knicks to 3 less wins. Plus the Knicks destroyed the Bullets in the playoffs.
@kurtis664
@kurtis664 5 жыл бұрын
the league was so great back then. Defensive teams, offensive teams, post up teams, fast break teams, iso teams. So much diversity. Was so cool seeing styles clash and see who won
@jpabcede5016
@jpabcede5016 5 жыл бұрын
When was this back then you are referring to? In the 1980s, with Dan Issel and the Nuggets, as well as the "Showtime" Lakers, it was all run and gun. In the 1990s and early 2000s, it was iso and bully ball before Steve Nash and the Suns became cool.
@justinthinkify
@justinthinkify 5 жыл бұрын
Lebron dropped near 31 points per game at age 21. Defense wasn't so good was it, lol.
@CodeWithLukas
@CodeWithLukas 4 жыл бұрын
@@justinthinkify thats like saying 1980s defences sucked because jordan averaged 28 on them
@augustgreig9420
@augustgreig9420 4 жыл бұрын
@@jpabcede5016 That's disingenuous. Yes, back in the 80's they played a much higher tempo game because the players were so great they were able to push the ball a lot, which is a sign of good defense. But when teams played in the half court, they did play much different than they do today. It seems you completely forgot about two of the most dominant teams of the 80's; The Celtics and The Pistons. The Celtics were great in the half court with Bird and McHale, and The Pistons were primarily a defensive team. And yes, in the 90's you still had more fundamental type play with Hakeem, David Robinson, Jordan, Barkley, Stockton and Malone, Chris Million and Tim Hardaway, etc. Those guys still played the game the "right" way, and IMO it was far more enjoyable to watch than today's game. Now, every single player on the court is either a slasher or a 3 point shooter, or some combination of the two. You don't see as much posting up, and when you do, it's not nearly as skilled. You don't see mid range jumpers until the playoffs when time is running out and you have to put the ball in the hand of your best player and let him create his own shot. In those scenarios, the mid range jumpers is the easiest shot to get off uncontested because you can drive to the basket forcing your man to commit, especially on an Iso. But it's a dying art anyway. So yes, the game was faster paced in the 80's and even part of the 90's, but tat has to do with the players and the rules at that time. Zone defense and completely removing hand checking and removing forearm checking in front of the free throw line, as well as removing illegal defense has made it a jump shooter's league, with slashers coming in a close second. Why do you think Curry has had so much success? No way he'd be nearly the player he is today with the hand and forearm checking on the perimeter of the 80's and 90's.
@marekwichniarek268
@marekwichniarek268 3 жыл бұрын
@@augustgreig9420 Spot on.
@jordan7985
@jordan7985 5 жыл бұрын
Nash won MVP fair and square. I agree with this vid that there were a lot of good candidates though. The case for Nash, he lost 3 of his starters from the year before, yet the suns were still able to get the 2nd seed and go to the conference finals. The Suns that year were a team of a bunch of dudes who had been bouncing around the league or who were hardly playing the year before (obviously Shawn Marion is not included). Many of these guys benefited greatly from playing with Nash, and many looked tremendously worse when they left him and the Suns. Controversial MVP, but well deserved too.
@onepiece6529
@onepiece6529 5 жыл бұрын
If Kobe won in 06 then people would say Nash . So vice versa I think it would have been controversial either way
@jordan7985
@jordan7985 5 жыл бұрын
Henry Tran exactly, people got to accept pretty much every year there is a controversy
@JinjaOnHere
@JinjaOnHere 5 жыл бұрын
Jordan quality ass comment
@dell3259
@dell3259 5 жыл бұрын
Jordan averaging 35 carrying a trash team while being selected on a first team all defensive team that’s all ima say
@dell3259
@dell3259 5 жыл бұрын
Henry Tran no people would not have said Nash maybe dirk or bron
@Milordvega
@Milordvega 5 жыл бұрын
Not just Kobe Bryant: Steve Nash's 2005-06 season was ALSO historic: leading the league in assists while joining the 50-40-90 club. (In a related story, I also remember some people questioning Nash's previous 2005 MVP award over Shaq, since Shaq turned new team Miami around while his old Lakers team missed playoffs with losing record under Kobe. But Nash also had huge impact for his new Suns team) For 2005-2006, Kobe finished only 4th in the voting despite his amazing season, and I think it was not just because he shot only 45% (he was always a volume scorer) and the team went only 45-37, but because writers were still resentful or blamed Kobe for his part in Shaq's ouster from the Lakers. It was almost as if they were telling him, "Kobe, you didn't want to remain a sidekick to Shaq on a winning team, so you got him out to be the undisputed alpha dog, but now the Lakers aren't title contenders anymore, so suck on that 4th place finish, no MVP for you." Then the recent rape case and all which was fresh on their minds. Maybe he deserved to have been MVP or at least 2nd or 3rd, but I wasn't really surprised that he didn't win. And LeBron and Dirk (and Dwyane Wade) were great in 2005-06, but seeing how the Suns again just jelled with Steve Nash at the helm, I didn't think Nash was a bad MVP choice at all for 2005-2006 MVP. Now I'm old so my NBA memories go as far back to the mid to late 70s. IMHO, more questionable choices than Nash in 2006 have been Bob McAdoo over Rick Barry in 1975; maybe Julius Erving over Larry Bird in 1981 (it was close); Magic over MJ or Barkley in 1990; Karl Malone over MJ in 1997 and over Tim Duncan in 1999 (Mailman's real MVP season should have been 1998 when MJ won it); Duncan over Jason Kidd in 2002 (considering how Kidd turned Nets around in 1 year, much like Nash would do for Suns a few years later). And basing my opinion not from memory but the history books, I would even include Bill Russell being 1961-62 MVP over Wilt with his 50 ppg season or Oscar Robertson with his triple double season while averaging over 30 ppg. But all those MVP winners did have great seasons themselves, definitely. And so did Steve Nash.
@chrisdell5679
@chrisdell5679 5 жыл бұрын
Ughhh no. Sports illustrated (at the time) called '98 arguably Jordan's best season. Pippen was out till January and that team was getting waaaay old. Still finished 62-20.
@redegg7653
@redegg7653 4 жыл бұрын
@@j2398 the system wont work if nash wasnt there... Put kobe in nash place with that system, expect a trade before the trade because of his ego. Put Lebron in that same situation and he would not follow that system. He has his own system which is "give me the ball and wait on the outside in case i get tangled up i will pass you the ball you shoot a three". Both Kobe and Lebron pass balls when its the last resort. Steve nash passes the ball to get a better shot option. Midrange jumpers, aka kobe's favorite shot is the most ineffective shot selection. Too far to have good accuracy but to close to score an extra point aka 3pointers. Lebron just bulldozes his way inside and when tangled up in the middle of defenders, he pass to a big man that then shoots a three... He turned two offensive players to spot up shooters, basically making them less effective. Nash passes the ball when his shot is at about 70% chance of going in and he sees someone in the court that has a better look at the basket. He pass not because he is in a bad situation. Rather he passes to make a decent situation better. Keyword better.
@Lupe1106a
@Lupe1106a 4 жыл бұрын
@@j2398 dude was just a pass first guy. Look at his stats in the post season you'll be impressed
@backthefuckupoffme9767
@backthefuckupoffme9767 3 жыл бұрын
@@j2398 Assuming that scoring means everything in an MVP player....... typical. smh
@WuTangWyatt
@WuTangWyatt 5 жыл бұрын
Tryna break Steve Nash down to a statistics is doing such a disservice to his greatness. Idk how you think that Suns team had a bunch of talent when they had 1 other all star in Shawn Marion, that's not a stacked team. The fact everyone had career years that year says way more about Nash than it does those other players. Most of the supporting cast didn't do anything significant before or after joining the Suns yet almost all had the best seasons of their career that year. Nash made everyone around him better, Kobe and LeBron are great but never did that
@mi4johns
@mi4johns 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, THIS is what the MVP is about & what the guy who made this video fails to realize - The award is for the player who makes everyone around him better - ala Tom Brady in the NFL.
@iwitness4107
@iwitness4107 5 жыл бұрын
Every team can’t have 2 and 3 all stars. Having one all star doesn’t mean you don’t have a solid team and a good team. There is thing call role players.
@nathankc6711
@nathankc6711 5 жыл бұрын
It’s like a Gretzky vs say Lemieux
@---gh0st---
@---gh0st--- 5 жыл бұрын
FACTS
@MrJamesmac10
@MrJamesmac10 3 жыл бұрын
@@j2398 when Kobe and Lebrun won they had a massive supporting cast that far exceeded the suns prove me wrong Lebrun had wade bosh and Miami had a good bench . Kobe had Paul gasol meta world peace fisher and a decent bench
@Zamppa86
@Zamppa86 5 жыл бұрын
It's Most Valuable Player...Not The Best Player award.
@treymatthews3353
@treymatthews3353 5 жыл бұрын
Zamppa86 don’t take that name to heart if mvp went to the most valuable player the mvp this year would be......Kemba Walker
@Lupe1106a
@Lupe1106a 4 жыл бұрын
@@BansheeVi the suns lost 3 starters from the year before and Stoudemire was injured all season. The fact that he got 57 wins is a miracle
@bosoxfan131
@bosoxfan131 4 жыл бұрын
Kobes Lakers would have been probably the worst team ever without him and he got them to the playoffs, end of story
@benbrandsma1543
@benbrandsma1543 3 жыл бұрын
That’s true Zamppa86
@paschalrelic9373
@paschalrelic9373 3 жыл бұрын
@@treymatthews3353 kemba is the goat so
@CadChamberlain
@CadChamberlain 5 жыл бұрын
everyone is ignoring the fact that derrick rose is playing 30+ minutes in multiple games despite it obviously putting his body in danger.
@Ruben-wm7hx
@Ruben-wm7hx 5 жыл бұрын
Cad Chamberlain everyone is ignoring it because everyone who follows the Twolves and drose knows that he sits out games every now and then so his body gets enough rest
@almightykoger481
@almightykoger481 5 жыл бұрын
Everyone is ignoring it because Derrick Rose is on the court doing what he loves. And he's doing it at a high level. Stop speaking on the bad look at the positives in it my dawg
@CadChamberlain
@CadChamberlain 5 жыл бұрын
@@almightykoger481 i understand that hes been playing amazing but after all of those injuries, swelling becomes a permanent problem. he should be playing 20-25 minutes a game to minimize the stress on his legs.
@cutepool3393
@cutepool3393 5 жыл бұрын
@@almightykoger481 you want the man to be in a wheelchair at 40 right?
@almightykoger481
@almightykoger481 5 жыл бұрын
@@cutepool3393 nah of course not. But if he's deciding to play it's his decision not ours. People speaking on it isn't going to make him play less because its ultimately his choice. Just enjoy what he's doing and stop think so negative.
@AlexWordu
@AlexWordu 5 жыл бұрын
This man has a personal vendetta towards Canadian basketball players I swear 😂😂😂... first Steve Nash now Andrew Wiggins
@snacks957
@snacks957 5 жыл бұрын
TheOfficialLTP Andrew Wiggins is trash there’s no denying it he’s putting up 16 pts while being terrible efficiency wise shooting around 30% from the field and 3 being the 2ND OPTION and it being his 5TH YEAR in the NBA Steve Nash couldn’t say that much about he retired before I started watching so what I know is really from what I hear about him
@mattbyrd3023
@mattbyrd3023 5 жыл бұрын
Bible I just commented you disrespectful as f*** never be another Steve Nash
@boxxboy13
@boxxboy13 5 жыл бұрын
@@snacks957 well. It's 40% from the field and 35 from 3. I know it's not good, but what you said is ridiculous. And if you look at Andrew Wiggins defense where he massively improved (I'm a Twolves fan, I see it every night) he's far from trash. Overpaid to the max, absolutely, but still a quality player. It's purely expectation and the Money that make people think he is trash. He'll be in the League until he's 35. If he was trash he'd be gone in a few years. I don't think he's great, don't get me wrong, but he's definitely not "trash"
@snacks957
@snacks957 5 жыл бұрын
BAS still think the Timberwolves should’ve kept Zach Lavine and traded Wiggins but that’s my opinion
@DarthKrellon
@DarthKrellon 5 жыл бұрын
@@snacks957 use context wiggins is on a horrible wolves team that is 16-19. And they blew out the bulls the other night and they fuckin suck right now
@zachh13
@zachh13 5 жыл бұрын
Here's why Kobe didn't win more than 1 MVP. 96-02 Not the best player on his team 03 & 04 Duncan & KG had god like seasons 05-07 Didn't have enough wins 09 and 10 LeBron was too good and then Kobe fell off
@emmanuelenyinwa1443
@emmanuelenyinwa1443 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe, he was never that good. Volume shooting and scoring wings are a dime a dozen. Kevin Durant only has ONE MVP. If Pippen didn't join the Bulls, Jordan would have won just one MVP, too as he never would have had enough wins.
@TheNamesDitto
@TheNamesDitto 5 жыл бұрын
Tbh looking back at that KG-SC playoff run, the twolves would've been champions if Sam Cassell was healthy.
@xxpirategamingxx7994
@xxpirategamingxx7994 5 жыл бұрын
Westbrook lead his team barely to the playoffs and he won MVP. Your 05 to 07 point is destroyed, he got triple doubles by stat padding and he wasn't playing defense.
@bigdog9507
@bigdog9507 5 жыл бұрын
@@xxpirategamingxx7994 I can see that point but Westbrook averaging that 30 point triple double was something nobody thought they'd ever see in this era. It'd be like someone today putting up wilt numbers in a season.
@knee-colayo-kitc104
@knee-colayo-kitc104 5 жыл бұрын
XXPirateGamingXX Kobe Bryant was not playing stellar D either 😂 Phil on record about that too
@kingdeedee
@kingdeedee 5 жыл бұрын
8:11 if that ain't one of the dirtiest YEETs I ever did see in my life... (Not that you're wrong tho lmao)
@tkcreus730
@tkcreus730 5 жыл бұрын
I mean if you ended the season with a double-double average, the guy was an efficient machine. The 50-40-90 plus the wins should've been enough if you ask me. You make it seem like Marion and Bell would carry the team if Nash wasn't playing. It wouldn't change anything though, he deserved that MVP win. He won the mvp because of a feel-good story? Lol get out of here.
@rickpeso7854
@rickpeso7854 3 жыл бұрын
Shawn marion put up 21 ppg was the leader scorer of the team, was 7th in DPOY voting, and was 10th in mvp voting, safe to say that year he was a top 10 player. Dirk, Lebron, nor Kobe didn't have another top 10 player or anything close to one.
@tkcreus730
@tkcreus730 3 жыл бұрын
@@rickpeso7854 Would it also be safe to say that Nash made Marion better? Because that's what playmakers do? Didn't Marion finish 14th in mvp voting the year prior when Nash also won mvp? Wasn't the Suns record during that season better than all the teams Dirk, Lebron and Kobe were in?
@rickpeso7854
@rickpeso7854 3 жыл бұрын
@@tkcreus730 Buddy Marion was already a allstar and a established 20ppg scorer before nash even got to the team, did nash make marion a better defender? Did he make him capable of guarding 1-4 even 5 sometimes? No. Also Mavericks had 60 wins, Suns had 54
@rickpeso7854
@rickpeso7854 3 жыл бұрын
@@tkcreus730 Nash wasn't the best scorer or defender on his team, didn't lead his team in PER, VORP, or Winshares that was all Marion who was the best scorer and defender on the team. If you wanna give the award to someone who carried a team to wins you give it to Dirk, if you wanna give it to best player then Kobe, all around package on both ends mixed with wins it's LeBron. Nash flat out shouldn't of won the mvp tho just off the fact that he had a bona-fide star with him and none of the candidates didn't, Dirk led his team to 60 wins with no all nba players or 20ppg scorers, LeBron took his team to 50 wins with no all nba players or 20ppg scorers
@tkcreus730
@tkcreus730 3 жыл бұрын
@@rickpeso7854 It's true but Marion couldn't carry the team by himself. Suns ranked higher than the Mavs because the Suns clinched their division title and the Mavs did not. If the Mavs did, Dirk would've been mvp for sure. Besides even if we debate here forever it still wouldn't change the result. Would be a nice stat though, assists but for defending? I jest but I'll just agree to disagree friend.
@Akash043
@Akash043 5 жыл бұрын
I love how you should a picture of d-wade and then you made a plot twist and said dirk
@wolog1454
@wolog1454 5 жыл бұрын
I hated it
@khaitranngoc4176
@khaitranngoc4176 2 жыл бұрын
The trickster
@MrSayWhatIThink23
@MrSayWhatIThink23 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, I don't have a problem with Nash winning though. He was phenomenal that year and orchestrated a great and fun offense and I'm not a Suns fan.
@kirbyolsen5941
@kirbyolsen5941 5 жыл бұрын
Young & Ambitious yeah but Kobe had a much greater year
@424AGS
@424AGS 5 жыл бұрын
Bruh tha ad at the end🤣. Bruh u my favorite NBA KZfaqr bruh💯🙌🏾😂
@georgestrawhecker6076
@georgestrawhecker6076 5 жыл бұрын
you didn’t even convince me with the stat lines let alone anything else
@chad9113
@chad9113 4 жыл бұрын
Same here.. Kobe scored more than Nash.. But Nash is more efficient than kobe based on the %..
@xx12vortex12xx
@xx12vortex12xx 5 жыл бұрын
Dwayne wade got screwed in 2008-2009 season.
@905kar5
@905kar5 5 жыл бұрын
xx12vortex12xx Stfu, you can’t even spell his name
@mimeblood4
@mimeblood4 5 жыл бұрын
his team had like 43 wins lol he better have been averaging like 40-7-7 to win mvp with 43 wins
@darkinferno1219
@darkinferno1219 5 жыл бұрын
xx12vortex12xx i Love LeBron and Wade, they’re my favorite players all-time but their stats were too close to call and at that point you have to go with the guy who won 66 friggin games
@lil_james1584
@lil_james1584 5 жыл бұрын
No he didn’t. LeBron had a much better record that year and he led his own team in points, rebounds, assists, steals, and blocks. LeBron led the Cavs in All 5 major statistical categories, and still won way more games than D. Wade that season. So D. Wade didn’t get screwed outta shit. FOH!!!!
@user-se7nx4rk8x
@user-se7nx4rk8x 4 жыл бұрын
lebron had 31.6 PER. its one of the most high of all time. and have WAY more wins. what are you talking about?
@edwinbrown2148
@edwinbrown2148 5 жыл бұрын
Tbh this video only proved that Steve Nash should be have been mvp
@mike.cdn7212
@mike.cdn7212 3 жыл бұрын
No Stoudemire, helped Boris Diaw convert from a shooting guard to a power forward and became Most Improved Player, helped Leandro Barbosa win 6th Man of the Year and he help make Raja Bell a offensive threat. Nash's contributions got these guys paid.
@roxecostelinha
@roxecostelinha 5 жыл бұрын
i don't get how some people don't understand, that steve nash won the mvp exactly by the points he put.... with some players putting 30+ points, he only got 20 and still CARRIED the team.... how? well.... the presence he has, like.... that monster aura, ya know? nash was the type of player that made the team better, by "sacrificing" his selfishness, sharing the ball more than shooting it, and making the players better, just by that perfect pass, or that backup defense, that screams "i got you".... that was nash, and that was why he got the mvp
@hopoff9968
@hopoff9968 5 жыл бұрын
Shaq co-signs this video, took the words right out of his mouth😂
@martinespinoza8354
@martinespinoza8354 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao that ad transition was smooth af😂😂
@AW3SOM3
@AW3SOM3 5 жыл бұрын
This dude hates Steve Nash with a passion. He's always trying to discredit him. This is like the third video he made on him trying to takeaway his accomplishments
@emmapeel38
@emmapeel38 5 жыл бұрын
I love how he says that the Mavs would have had trouble winning 20 games without Dirk, but somehow doesn’t factor how terrible the Suns would be without Nash. I also have zero doubt that Larry Hughes would have had more success with the Suns being the 3rd, 4th, or 5th option, over being the #2 option under LeBron in Cleveland. The Suns weren’t loaded with Marbury, because they sucked. Same core, switch out for Nash, and Nash suddenly gets a ‘loaded’ team? The key, was that he unlocked his teammates. His stats (%’s were superb though) won’t measure up, because his greatness was creating a moving and fun to watch offense; 5-on-5. LeBron is a great passer, but despite his gifts and lofty assist totals, he tends to lock up his teammates from playing to their strengths. Nash works from a completely different perspective; I’ll the ball to you where you like it the most.
@jtsview1478
@jtsview1478 5 жыл бұрын
emmapeel38 u made a great point referencing Lebron and Nash. Perfectly said.
@Sad-su7zl
@Sad-su7zl 5 жыл бұрын
Arthur Veale yeah I'm a big Nash fan from the bottom of my heart and I think he deserves more credit than he gets he is basically overlooked by numbers but no one understands that he's goal was not scoring but utilizing every player on he's teacm
@nbabackcourtmedia
@nbabackcourtmedia 5 жыл бұрын
After your Steve Nash video I knew this was coming, just didn’t know when
@TheBobcat813
@TheBobcat813 5 жыл бұрын
You’re the only KZfaqr video I can like before watching lol
@peteandrepete528
@peteandrepete528 5 жыл бұрын
Don't hate the player hate the game. He didn't pick himself for MVP, others did.
@runthelikes
@runthelikes 5 жыл бұрын
Time for my favorite KZfaqr that love to talk down to his fans
@hokadre8730
@hokadre8730 5 жыл бұрын
that plug of sponsorship at the end 😭😭
@jeopardybehrens3047
@jeopardybehrens3047 5 жыл бұрын
I still say Nash deserved both based off of how valuable he was to his team on a night to night bases. Maybe he wasnt the scorer Kobe was, but you cant deny that the team was so much better with him
@SuperBayboy925
@SuperBayboy925 5 жыл бұрын
If not for steve nash I'd prolly still be just a casual nba fan..nash was amazing to watch
@yannpollet1269
@yannpollet1269 5 жыл бұрын
Kobe over Nash? Phoenix was seed 2, Lakers seed 7. Do you want to give the mvp to someone who is barely in the PO?
@devinreshard4560
@devinreshard4560 5 жыл бұрын
That dirk fakeout was funny as hell 😂😂😂
@Milo0610
@Milo0610 5 жыл бұрын
Everyone questioning nash mvp because of his PPG. The guy was playmaker of that team He was the reason why they thrived!
@user-eh7mf7rf8k
@user-eh7mf7rf8k 3 жыл бұрын
Yes and he was a shit at defense which is half of the game, also 4 rebounds.... are you kidding me right? In 35 minutes you and I would have averaged more. Lastly yes ofc we speak about points, the game is basketball and points is the most important thing and be wasn't even in top 20. The only reason it may not be the worst mvp choice ever is because it is the one previous year
@ICEEKICKS
@ICEEKICKS 5 жыл бұрын
Low why’d you do Dwade so dirty like that 😂😂😂😂😂
@knee-colayo-kitc104
@knee-colayo-kitc104 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t know how most people can agree and say Westbrook stoles Hardens 2017 MVP cus Harden actually won more, but cry when Steve Nash leads a team to 60 wins, if Nash wasn’t your 2006 MVP then dirk should’ve came second...
@ny_kid8685
@ny_kid8685 5 жыл бұрын
Kobe deserved more than one
@Maal7432
@Maal7432 5 жыл бұрын
Naw. He didn’t earn em.
@hozman5700
@hozman5700 5 жыл бұрын
No he never
@anthonynegron788
@anthonynegron788 5 жыл бұрын
@Brandon Martin Maybe. A lot of players throughout history do, but all that is if its and buts were candies and nuts, nah mean.
@turtleluvin9287
@turtleluvin9287 5 жыл бұрын
why? kobe was 2nd to shaq, lost to nash in the playoffs twice the years nash was named MVP and dirk was out playing kobe for the course of a 82 game season. Why did he deserve more?
@turtleluvin9287
@turtleluvin9287 5 жыл бұрын
@Brandon Martin Why Lebron was getting beat down by Dirk and Duncan from the start of his career to 2011. Even in 2013 duncan at 38 and manu at 36 still beat the beating of a life on Lebron and is still the greatest margin of victory in a NBA finals. I need to know what year lebron deserved more then 3 because i can only think of 2 years where lebron had the biggest impact on the game.
@jbmheat
@jbmheat 5 жыл бұрын
What he just did to wade hurt my soul
@brockpearson5466
@brockpearson5466 5 жыл бұрын
Nobody's gonna talk about Allen Iverson averaging 33 points 3 boards 7 assists
@CadChamberlain
@CadChamberlain 5 жыл бұрын
d wade should have won mvp in 2009
@mariodorsey9260
@mariodorsey9260 5 жыл бұрын
Most kobe fans hate Steve Nash 😂😂😂😂
@ChefCharlesBoi
@ChefCharlesBoi 5 жыл бұрын
8:13 You had me 😂
@ericsales4737
@ericsales4737 5 жыл бұрын
Think of the MVP like this... Who has the better record? Who the best player on that team with the better record? There’s your MVP, Your welcome....
@turtleluvin9287
@turtleluvin9287 5 жыл бұрын
Seriously how old are you? I enjoy watching some of your videos but you seem like your 5 years old when you talk steve nash. Literally at one point you said raja bell was better then any of the players on cleveland. Eric snow is the raja bell of pg except he was actually a lock down defender. Eric Snow has been to 3 NBA finals and you acting like no one on cleveland could play. Seriously is everyone here lost children? Nash took bench players in diaw, bell, thomas who are now starters to the 2nd seed and the WCF in the west. I love that you brought up the MVP points, did you see that Nash was 300 points better? He lost 3 starters in johnson, que and amare and he lost his best bench player in steven hunter and he still made it to the WCF. Lets just talk results, lost 4 of his top 6 team mates in the off season. Beat Kobe after being down 3-1, Lebron plays in the east and lost in the semi and Dirk had been playing with alot of the same guys for years and they were ready to make a run. Honestly how old are you? Because you be using fake stats and your opinion like bell is better then Big Z, drew Gooden, sasha and larry hughes. God children are running the world now, why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@vitezjura
@vitezjura 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know who this Raja Bell even is, he's definitely not a household name. I could be wrong though, but this youtuber is presenting him like he's some great player. Stoudemire was an all star that should transfer half his points and earnings to Nash for feeding him the ball all game. I bet he wasn't even that great by himself. Raja Bell sounds like Sasha Vujacic kind of name. I don't know, maybe he had an all star talent, but he has a name of a scrub. The other players Nash played with? Come on man, without Nash on that team the Suns aren't even making the playoffs.
@turtleluvin9287
@turtleluvin9287 5 жыл бұрын
@@vitezjura exactly, raja was a role player who was a 3nD. He was a lesser version of a shane battier. I am struggling with some of these youtube people. Like its becoming more and more clear to me that alot of these guys making videos on basketball are in there early 20's and really havent watched basketball and use stats to make arguments when they dont have a clue. I mean alot of the games are on youtube and you can go back and watch the 2006 playoffs and watch the lakers vs suns. And without even knowing you are right, sasha and raja bell were the same type of player. Sasha a little better shooter and raja a little bit better defender.
@theicyridge
@theicyridge 5 жыл бұрын
This video seriously lacks credit for assists. An assist, especially with the 3-point heavy Suns, is worth at least 2.5 points, and that's not counting how many times Nash put people on the line. Dirk averaged 8 more points than Nash, but also 8 less assists, which puts him way behind in combination. Then you factor Nash's shooting percentage, and his efficiency is just insane. Same with Kobe: 16 more points, but 6 less assists, way lower percentages, and a far lower winning percentage.
@booblaa9734
@booblaa9734 5 жыл бұрын
Basketball fans pretend to know statistics. Don't try and explain it.
@urboicross9820
@urboicross9820 4 жыл бұрын
theicyridge not sure if assist should count for 2.5 points that’s basically saying him passing the ball to a teammate the makes a bucket is worth more than a mid range shot? How is an assist more important than a person actually scoring don’t act like you know percentages
@mani-xc9rs
@mani-xc9rs Жыл бұрын
Dirk (60 wins) generated 32.75 PPG Nash (54 wins) generated 42.57 PPG Bron (50 wins) generated 46.43 PPG Kobe (45 wins) generated 45.83 PPG
@SimonZiobro
@SimonZiobro 4 жыл бұрын
D Wade did so good in the playoffs and one of the best playoff runs from a individual player.
@psrabe7444
@psrabe7444 5 жыл бұрын
If you watched Nash play that season you would understand. Nash would regularly draw 3-4 defenders off the perimeter and the kick the ball out. The thing is that if you look at what teammates like Stoudemire and Marion did before and after they were on the same team as Nash it shows how much value he added to the players around him. Marion and and Bell were great defenders but Nash made them look good on the offensive end when in reality they weren't that great. Also, the suns may have only won 54 games that season which is indeed less than Dallas but they won the western division by a wide margin which is extremely impressive because the west have 4 teams make the playoffs that year. Additionally, that year Nash was their offense and their offense was the best in the league by a wide margin. The most important point is that the MVP is decided by votes from different writers and commentators. Your video and commentary that is similar about the MVP doesn't take into consideration that a player isn't chosen for the award. They win an election essentially. Enough of the people paying attention and watching the game the most decided he was the player with the most value. get over it.
@RGB7005
@RGB7005 5 жыл бұрын
“Statistically speaking” overkill
@sebplayz3908
@sebplayz3908 5 жыл бұрын
8:15 I thought he was gonna say Dwayne Wade 😭
@phillipbell4394
@phillipbell4394 4 жыл бұрын
I mean I feel like this a good thing when there are multiple MVP candidates becaise that just means the leauge is really strong. Take 2020. In a normal year I could see Giannis, Lebron, Harden, and maybe even Luca or Lillard winning it. Sometimes there are just a lot of MVP level players throughout a year.
@cadejackson8665
@cadejackson8665 5 жыл бұрын
Who do people think is the MVP of this season so far?
@coolhands4444
@coolhands4444 5 жыл бұрын
Cade Jackson Frank
@nbabackcourtmedia
@nbabackcourtmedia 5 жыл бұрын
Cade Jackson Kawhi
@WhiteBeard640
@WhiteBeard640 5 жыл бұрын
Kawhi
@VoxGav-bd9rc
@VoxGav-bd9rc 5 жыл бұрын
Giannis
@simba4809
@simba4809 5 жыл бұрын
Giannis or Kawhi can't go wrong with either one
@anthonyernst999
@anthonyernst999 3 жыл бұрын
Steve Nash winning his second MVP is like when Rudy Gobert was an MVP candidate. Okay maybe it's not that bad but still
@JoshuaD.Howard
@JoshuaD.Howard 5 жыл бұрын
That picture of LeBron in ‘06 looks like 11-12 Bron 🤣🤣
@chaosinmind1312
@chaosinmind1312 4 жыл бұрын
R.I.P. Kobe one of the greatest
@prestonskeete1308
@prestonskeete1308 5 жыл бұрын
LeBron should have won the mvp that year putting a numbers like that and Also leading his team to almost as many wins
@highlightsbottleflipnbanfl1847
@highlightsbottleflipnbanfl1847 5 жыл бұрын
Kobe's whining and nash's assists caused Nash to win.
@SaltoDaKid
@SaltoDaKid 5 жыл бұрын
Nash deserve it we all know Kobe was best player that year but Nash was most value for the “winning” team
@soulslayer434
@soulslayer434 5 жыл бұрын
I usually here people complain about Nash's other MVP which people say he stole from Shaq.
@edwardcliffard2653
@edwardcliffard2653 5 жыл бұрын
Respect for being a Lakers fan and overcoming the fandom to just argue logically
@ItsTheMunz
@ItsTheMunz 5 жыл бұрын
yes they were still a very good team but they lost 2 of the best scorers they had and a 3 point marksmen. The odds were definitely not stacked in their favor at least compared to the previous year.
@alexnota8
@alexnota8 5 жыл бұрын
They should do team mvps for the best player on each team
@matthewmorton8027
@matthewmorton8027 5 жыл бұрын
I hear you but I still think Steve Nash should have still won it but everyone disagrees that’s basketball
@awayinmymind3970
@awayinmymind3970 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you're following copyright laws with that arrow.
@coltin1494
@coltin1494 5 жыл бұрын
My personal interpretation is the star with the most eye-popping statline that has the best chance at being Finals MVP My vote goes to Dirk
@thetruth4654
@thetruth4654 5 жыл бұрын
Nash should not be a controversial MVP to anyone with a brain. But we all know that Kobe fans aren`t usally the brightest NBA fan base.
@Jboooog18
@Jboooog18 5 жыл бұрын
Kobe really is my favorite player of all time but I really look at people crazy when they say nash robbed him, its laughable to me
@AbdulAli-fu1os
@AbdulAli-fu1os 5 жыл бұрын
im still on the square space advertisement i think he bouta say nash if im correct like
@gilasshooter8233
@gilasshooter8233 5 жыл бұрын
Nash did it without amare..
@Moflight23
@Moflight23 5 жыл бұрын
8:16 man that handshake must‘ve been hella awkward
@baklavaconsumer1080
@baklavaconsumer1080 5 жыл бұрын
Just a very close year with many players deserving the award You can't satisfy everyone if you had Kobe winning it for example people now would say that he had stats just because he was playing alone and in general something for every player that could have won
@MasterJP28
@MasterJP28 5 жыл бұрын
That win share though 👀
@airohio1443
@airohio1443 5 жыл бұрын
Since when should a MOST VALUABLE PLAYER in the REGULAR SEASON win slightly more than half of the games
@fredx239
@fredx239 5 жыл бұрын
Heat fans just started looking for this man's address so they can plot how to avenge D-Wade after that dirty transition.
@Jrsqueazy
@Jrsqueazy 5 жыл бұрын
That D Wade to Dirk transition tho
@ced9938
@ced9938 5 жыл бұрын
The league really wanted to move on from the hero ball era and nash/dan was the first installment
@chirayudesai793
@chirayudesai793 5 жыл бұрын
Notificstion Squad where yall at??
@gregoryparker2564
@gregoryparker2564 5 жыл бұрын
Nash is in the west which pushed him pass lebron because west is perceived as the better conference even back then and he had more wins then Kobe.
@JoshuaD.Howard
@JoshuaD.Howard 5 жыл бұрын
That D-Wade disrespect 😷😷
@hulkyouup
@hulkyouup 5 жыл бұрын
Of course Nash deserved it. I dont see any real controversy. Dont give it to someone because they take 30 to 40 shots a game or are the only decent player on their team.
@beastyboy101bo
@beastyboy101bo 5 жыл бұрын
You stay hating on Steve nash
@shamgod815
@shamgod815 5 жыл бұрын
You’re tweaking if you think Raja Bell for the suns was ever better than Big Z was for the Cavs.
@renlysotherlover294
@renlysotherlover294 4 жыл бұрын
It’s so easy to fix just add another trophy call it’s the Michael Jordan trophy and award it to the best player in the league much like what the nhl does with the Lester b Pearson award which is separate than the mvp award since that tends to be skewed by what people perceive as being more valuable to their team.
@bodiyz229
@bodiyz229 5 жыл бұрын
Love your channel but I sorrta agree with Steve Nash
@coltin1494
@coltin1494 5 жыл бұрын
He deserved it, a 20-10 stat line and 50,40,90 percentages benefits any roster. Kobe and LeBron both would've benefit from playing with Nash, but if you put Lebron and Kobe on the same team their stats would drop and they'd both have had worse individual performances.
@Alexred94
@Alexred94 5 жыл бұрын
But the question is,who voted for Elton Brand for 1st place that year.
@bonerjoe1230
@bonerjoe1230 Жыл бұрын
I'm so confused why he keeps calling Kobe averaging 35 in 06 historic. There have been players who did this before and after him. Does Low think Kobe is the only one to have done this? I really dont get the argument here
@Afric808
@Afric808 5 жыл бұрын
Why u do Wade like that😂😂?
@DIVAD291
@DIVAD291 5 жыл бұрын
Sometimes the most valuable player is the one that increases the value of everyone else around him. If i score 15 points by myself but i also make everyone else on my team score 2 extra points per game...well i really contribute 23points. If i score 30 points by myself but i also make everyone else on my team score 2 times less per game...well i really contribute 22 points. scoring more has diminishing returns and is therefore less valuable.
@SDART998
@SDART998 5 жыл бұрын
Nash was the clear mvp that year
@ethanaltshul5747
@ethanaltshul5747 5 жыл бұрын
Looking back, that year that Russel won it over Wilt’s 50pts and 25rebounds
@sonaddie8469
@sonaddie8469 5 жыл бұрын
8:14 I’ve never been played so hard
@slim8553
@slim8553 5 жыл бұрын
What about 1962 season where it was super crazy. Wilt 50 PPG like 23 RPG. Big O averaged a triple double for the season. Elgin Baylor and Bob Pettit I believe both like 35+ PPG but yet I think Bill Russel won it with almost every stat wasn't as good as these guys but won with the Celtics who in previous years won everything
@darkinferno1219
@darkinferno1219 5 жыл бұрын
Furious Storm158 because the players voted back then and the general consensus, even among the candidates was that Bill Russell deserved it. It wasn’t a scenario like 2015 where the players felt Harden should’ve won it over Steph.
@nbn-nba7975
@nbn-nba7975 5 жыл бұрын
Scalabrine should have won it I don’t know if he was in the league then but he would have won anyway
@mee8914
@mee8914 5 жыл бұрын
Nbn- nba yeah
@themoderndaygamer637
@themoderndaygamer637 5 жыл бұрын
I think that this year should have been 1. Lebron 2. Kobe 3. Dirk 4. Nash 5. D wade
@maleikc
@maleikc 5 жыл бұрын
I would say Curry winning the first and only unanimous MVP is more controversial than Nash winning it.
@IWantToMature85
@IWantToMature85 5 жыл бұрын
He rightfully deserved it. Led his team to great records and dominated. As a black man, I think people are upset that a white player won it TWICE over black stars.
@maleeksambrano7302
@maleeksambrano7302 5 жыл бұрын
Zechariah Cameron ok so explain the pass on dirk
@Shabazzx1
@Shabazzx1 5 жыл бұрын
You just had to go there
@IWantToMature85
@IWantToMature85 5 жыл бұрын
maleek sambrano dirk just won it once. People started hating the fact that Nash won it like ten years later.
@maleeksambrano7302
@maleeksambrano7302 5 жыл бұрын
Zechariah Cameron dirk had a better season so if we mad because of race y didn’t he win what’s the excuse there
@carltonhenry7671
@carltonhenry7671 5 жыл бұрын
Lol leave him alone guys he obviously didn’t watch the video. Statically Steve Nash didn’t have the best stats or record chump
@zombiespro12
@zombiespro12 5 жыл бұрын
Now I’m just wondering who tf gave Elton brand a first place vote?
@DANtheMANofSIPA
@DANtheMANofSIPA 5 жыл бұрын
How is Raja Bell, Shawn Marion, and 57 games of Leanardo Barbossa a "plethora of talent"
@connorb315
@connorb315 5 жыл бұрын
Bruh I don’t think you realize how good Stackhouse and Ilgauskas were, even COMPARING them to Shawn Marion and Raja Bell is criminal
@dannyphantom5758
@dannyphantom5758 5 жыл бұрын
My dude got ads and a sponsor plug... Get your money then
@Fleet_Mode
@Fleet_Mode 4 жыл бұрын
I know smush parker ... goes to my boys church ... kobe till this day still haunts him with what he put him through
@jackabah4279
@jackabah4279 5 жыл бұрын
11:23 so we not gonna talk about Elton Brand's one first place vote...
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