John and Lisa, I commented recently after your podcast on joy vs. blessings. The date of that broadcast was September 5, 2023. Two days before that, in a 'home meeting', I was anointed and prayed for regarding numerous physical needs. A brother had earlier affirmed that he had heard me speaking in a heavenly language. Those ministering that night affirmed that indeed I had spoken in my heavenly language. So I am "growing in that aspect of my spiritual life. Having served in Russia, I know the language, and have occasionally prayed in Russian. I could go on further, but what you shared has meant much to me, and I thank you both.

Thank you very much for making it so clear !!! I am so happy to see what you are doing and what you have became ! Can you imagine that I have been far away from God's things for 7 years and now that I had coming back, not only I can enjoy God's presence but I can see how His people evolved in 7 years. It is kind of I closed my eyes for 7 years and now I am opening it again. So first time I saw you was in a church in Paris (I'm french) and now I can watch your program and I can always see a strong couple with even more complicity. What a delight ! Not only you are teaching us by your words but definitely by your actions too ! It melted my heart, really !

I started speaking in tongues watching one of your videos ❤

I love that y’all are NOT religion, you are Relationship with the Spirit of the. Living GOD ❤

This is by far the best bible study on Speaking in Tongues. Thank you for sharing.

I pray in tongues all the time!!!! I can’t help it!!!! ❤and Lisa is gorgeous

I did I got baptised last year and someone online accused me of it of been demonic I continued for a while and stopped thinking it was things from my old life creeping back in . I watched another video of yours earlier and started hearing God speaking in-tongues in my head came to look up your podcast and this was first video that jumped out at me ❤❤❤ thank you for waking me up again. I also have the gift of prophecy glory to God ! I translated my speech on a tranlate tool speaking and it was Hebrew one time I was calling Jesus with intention and the father and it translated to father and son , I was in tears . This 100 percent confirms your view of what they mean and the different ones are correct . Wanted to add I’m a millennial

I praise and thank God for you guys because as you were praying I felt exactly word for word what you were praying in the lunchroom cafeteria at my school. God recently set me free from a church that appeared "spiritual" for God but it was really it was a mock of what God really does (if that makes sense) and He re- established me in a church that is truly filled with and led by the Holy Spirit, I could tell the difference once God opened up my eyes. And ever since then, I've just been so hungry for God and I want to see more of what He can do in my life and in this world like it started off in the book of Acts and God definitely spoke to me through your message today and just wanted to say thank you for your obedience to Him all these years

This teaching is so needed! Thank you for getting this word out. ❤

Thank you for equipping the body of Christ with His Truth!

Powerful message

John and Liza teach the truth of the bible regarding The Holy Spirit and His work in each child of God and The Church since Pentecost in Acxs

Thank you for speaking about this these last couple of months Ive been feeling the holy spirit work in me & its been an overwhelming feeling. When you prayed I cried but tears of joy since I know God slowly peeling the onion in my life & taking away spirtual blindness like he stated in the gospels & reminding me that the thief only comes to steal and kill and destory but I come to that they have a full life. When I read that scripture I knew in my spirit that he wants me to lay down the cross at his feet so I could feel fulfilled by him. Also Love that you spoke about corinthians since thats what my pastor recommended since I read all 4 gospels. Thank you for this beautiful message being servants of God. ❤

Praise God for this message and may he continue to bless your whole family and descendants throughout the generations! 🙏🙏❤️ One day we will meet in the Kingdom 👑

I love their relationship!❤️ Thank you Jesus for a new day

I love you are talking about this. I so miss the gift being used in church…yes I’ve seen and heard weird ness but it’s the gift God gave us that we alllllll need. He is a God of order and pastors need courage for direction to the people of the congregation. A sign for the power of God

Keep on teaching ! Holy Spirit have your way with me!

Thank you this has edified and encouraged me

Thanks you two for this great teaching on this amazing gift

I am from Brazil, and have recently been to the US for the first time. I made a tour through Colorado and Arizona states, and had the opportunity to meet Messenger International headquarters in Palmer Lake! It was closed, but it meant so much to me because you both mean a lot to me. Thank you for your blessed teachings and lifestyles!

This has been so good! Thank you! ❤

Yall rock and yall preach supernatural gifts of holy soirit, that’s amazing! You never hear this ❤

God bless you both, John and Lisa! I just love you both, and I pray that God gives you more wisdom, passion, and perseverance to stay in the truth! I always get excited to listen to these podcasts, and I know your teachings are from God, and God gave you that gift because all of the videos I watched either transformed me or became a confirmation of what I believe in. I was literally talking about this topic yesterday with a friend of mine, and I was so excited to open and listen to your videos. It's not you guys, but God who works in you, and that's the biggest blessing to be God's special vessel! I pray for God to multiply you through your fruit of teachings. -Hana

This was outstanding! Very encouraging and edifying. Thank you!

What a divinely timed message filled with TRUTH! My husband & I have been discussing the spiritual gifts the past few weeks. Both of us grew up in churches that didn’t preach the activation of the Holy Spirit, but we are soaking this up like a sponge! Thank you for continuing to walk in your calling with obedience - the harvest is plenty!

This is so good! Amen 💙

I really enjoyed listening to this ❤

So gooooooood and accurate explanation.

Thank you Jesus!

Love this! ❤

Love this teaching! Y’all made it clear and digestible!

I am currently reading your book The Awe of God ( which I am loving) The Holy Spirit will be next on my reading list. 💙🙏🏾💎

Greetings from Colorado! I had never tried speaking in tongues before! I was baptized in 1991. Never in ALL these years was I told this is a tool in my tool box for thwarting Satan and speaking in a secret language to God! What a shame this powerful blessing is hidden from believers! THANK YOU FOR GETTING THE WORD OUT! I use this daily now and I feel things are really shifting and gaining momentum for my Divine Purpose!

Thank you ❤

Hi John & Lisa. I recieved my Spiritual prayer language as a young adult. It has been such a benifit to know how to pray as Romans 8:26 says.

Thank you for this conversation episode it really touched my heart and it is exactly what I am praying about and I'm glad, I landed on your videos now all my friends I tell them about you and may you both continue to be blessed

God's speaking about revival approaching to many of those I know as well. I think you are right about a harvest coming.

If we operate in our spiritual gifts Motivated by love Guided by scripture the enemy is in trouble.

Speak forth when the Spirit gives you a word. Your part is to move your lips and vocalize what you are being given.

Amen

I have learned so much from both of you, and I'm so grateful for your teaching! What would you say to someone who says that no one should pray in their personal heavenly language in any gathering? They believe that is only for private, and even when we are corporately praying in our heavenly language together, that it is wrong (only for private use).

Amén

Hi John and Lisa, thank you for expounding on this topic, its quite controversial for sure, however, I did not understand the Singapore example.

What’s sad is most people don’t believe in this… like John McArthur and the cessionist movie and they say the gifts died with the apostles, it’s so sad…

What a great message and great way to explain it , may God bless you and continue blessing your ministry. Where can I find your schedule to see you in person ?

This was great. I’m new to this teaching and I got a little lost even after rereading the transcript:) Which two are the “public” gifts and which two are the “private”?

Please do one on the spirit of intimidation

I started to speak in tongues in one of the John sermons, was only few words, but was a great experience. I couldn't anymore though, I am afraid of talking with my flesh only

Even William Seymour the Pentecostal revivalist teaches that we pentecostals should not focus in pursuing 'gift of tongue' but rather in being baptized and 'continually 'filled by the Holy Spirit ... the gift of tongue and other gifts will follow after being filled with Holy Spirit , some might 'utilize' the gift slowly and not right away but if one is truly baptized by Holy Spirit then surely he has the gift of tongue either he utilizes it or not . Many people are truly baptized by Holy Spirit such as Reformed preacher Paul Washer, he describes his encounter with the Holy Spirit in the woods after spending quite a period of prayer and fasting where the manifestation of the TANGIBLE holy presence of God is so overwhelming that he literally bend himself in fetal position even to the point thinking he would've died , he said in that moment his mouth started 'automatically' pouring out flow of (understandable) words of praise like the book of psalms I believe Paul Washer definitely has the gift of tongue but unfortunately his theology 'suppresses' this gift from being utilized . The primary sign of being baptized by Holy Spirit is the TANGIBLE overwhelming passion to commune worshiping God in holiness of His Love , the gift(s) will follow especially when our theology don't block them .

Well then, you might enjoy the novel “Where Do We Go Now, LIRD? - Burke.” Enjoy!

Best I've heard about speaking in tongues! I just want to mention that I think there is an aspect of it where God manipulates a person's hearing so they hear what HE wants them to hear so to the speaker of the tongues it doesn't sound any different than "normal".

I feel like the term spiritual gifts is used so loosely that people forget the fact that they are gifts of The Holy Spirit. This solidifies our baptism and belief bc of we literature have His gifts, we must first have His Spirit within us with The Fruit of The Spirit.

I've been praying in what I believe is tounges but the enemy has me wondering. To make it more complex to my mind its a language I don't recognize. I was an Opera singer & have sung in over 10 languages. So not recognizing it is a door the enemy is using to alow me down. It could also be a goft that it's far away from any I know so my mind doesn't get involved. I find sometimes I have to play loud praise music to speak any more than just the same few things over & over. I have prayed " Mind, submit to the Holy Spirit & Spirit take me to the Father. " Love any advice ❤️ Also in church we should just follow the rule set down in Paul's writings. Someone speaks or prays in tounges & 2-3 "judge" the one doing it. The gentleman that with God’s help took out the church of Satan said serpents & scorpions are the most common unclean Spirits. Church of Glad Tidings is his church, they KNOW spiritual warfare! Not only against the church of satan but witches too. 25:57

I have questions about this bc idk that people are actually speaking tongues..where's the interpretation? There's supposed to be one and usually there is none. What it usually sounds like is people stringing words together like "tie my yellow bow tie" and then say they are speaking in tongues

It's more controversial that people do not believe the gifts are for today (we're still in the church age). Some pastors from China took a tour of mega churches in america and were asked what they were most surprised at concerning the american church. They said it was incredible how much americans can do without the leading of the Holy Spirit.

In advance, I know my only need is to meditate on the word of God. However, as discussed in your conversation, there’s something about the gifts working together and so I say to you that I need to meditate on the examples you shared here to build up my faith even more so that it prepares for the imprinting that my heart and soul needs. One question though, and perhaps it has something to do with why I haven’t “felt” the things like warmth or trembling. Is that the (only?) way we know Holy Spirit is with us - by “feeling”? I am a person who is sensitive and feels(senses) most things with the people around me. A lot of the times, my feelings about myself are or can be deceptive and I often hear that we “shouldn’t go by feelings”. So as you were describing the nuances in the speaking of tongues, what are the nuances concerning feelings?

I know it was said to bring back the gifts back without the weirdness, but those with the gifts in the old testament operated with weirdness sometimes. Like Elisha laying on that child in 2 Kings 4 and even in the new testament Jesus spat on the blind mans eyes in Mark 8:22-26.If that happened today we would say it's weird, but those were methods people with the gifts used to heal people. Some girl recently shared that God told her to randomly do a back flip in a supermarket. Weird right? But her obedience blessed someone who requested that back flip as confirmation form God. another testimony is one where God told someone to say a certain word to random folks and that word actually ended up blessing the couple and being what they needed to hear. All this to say, how do we discern which "weirdness" is from God and which isn't? And is it weirdness if it's coming from God?

So true that the people have made the Holy Spirit weird lol 😂. I’ve also been in spaces where people have abused and misused the Spirit to serve their own agendas, or to show off their spiritual status. I pray for a revival in our country 🙏 May the Lord fill his people, his church, with the Holy Spirit !

What about part of scripture where it talks about not speaking in gibberish? I'm actually not trying to debate. I'm not sure exactly what this means yet.

There are those who say you cannot have any spiritual gift until you have the gift of tongues. How do you know the difference between the gift of tongues and congering God? This is NOT a sarcastic, but sincere question.

I was told that I should not be speaking tounges unless there is an interpreter if I'm speaking in lounges I should pray in tongues a lone since there is no interpreter do you agree with this?

So how do you operate in a situation where someone interrupts with tounges

This started out well organized and I could follow the transcript well until it ran off the track. You were explaining the 4 type of tongue (2 public & 2 private) but somehow you got to talking over each other and giving examples and you never really finished the teaching - at least you never clearly finished explaining the 3rd & 4th … and never explained the difference between the prayer of intercession and prophecy. Started off good, but ended a bit confused. Do you have written materials on this?

John, I’m not sure if you will see this message but I hear the Holy Spirit whispering to me that u are a Caleb. You are Caleb in this generation. Please refer back to the story of Caleb in the Old Testament.

I don't feel good about it it's unsettling.

I can speak in UNknown tongues, but I can't speak in known tounges like in the bible.

"Praying in tongues" is not the Holy Spirit but rather the false spirit known in other cultures as the Kundalini spirit.

Am I the only one that the commercials interrupted at the most inappropriate times?

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There is absolutely nothing mysterious about Biblical "tongues" - and there is only one type - when referring to something spoken, they are nothing more than real, rational language(s); usually, but not always, unknown to those listening to them, but always known by the speaker(s) - it’s their native language (in some cases, it is a language the speaker has learned). In contrast, the “tongues” Pentecostal and Charismatic Christians are producing today is an entirely self-created phenomenon. It is non-cognitive non-language utterance; random free vocalization based upon a subset of the existing underlying sounds (called phonemes) of the speaker’s native language, and any other language(s) the speaker may be familiar with or have had contact with. It is, in part, typically characterized by repetitive syllables, plays on sound patterns, alliteration, assonance, and over-simplification of syllable structure. The "nail in the coffin", so-to-speak, is that _any and all_ phonological rules (rules governing how sounds are put together in a given language - what is allowed and what is disallowed) governing a speaker's native language, will _also_ govern their tongues-speech. That fact alone negates anything that can be construed as 'divine' in nature and cements that fact that it is a self-created phenomenon. Further, this subset of phonemes mentioned above typically contains only those sounds which are easiest to produce physiologically. Occasionally some speakers will use two or more subsets of phonemes to generate glossolalia, producing what, to them, sounds like two (or more) distinct “tongues languages”, thus claiming to be able to speak in “divers tongues”. There is absolutely _nothing_ that “tongues-speakers” are producing that cannot be explained in relatively simple linguistic terms. Conversely, when it comes to something spoken, there are absolutely _no_ Biblical references to “tongues” that do not refer to, and cannot be explained in light of, real rational language(s), though it may not be the explanation you want to hear, and it may be one which is radically different from what you believe, or were taught. _Nowhere_ in the Bible is modern tongues-speech advocated or evidenced. “Praying in the Spirit” does _not_ refer to the words one is saying. Rather, it refers to how one is praying. In the three places it is used (Corinthians, Ephesians, and Jude), there is absolutely zero reference to 'languages' in connection with this phrase. “Praying in the Spirit” should be understood as praying in the power of the Spirit, by the leading of the Spirit, and according to His will. I'm not doubting or questioning the 'tongues experience'; glossolalia as the spiritual tool that it is, can be very powerful and, for many people, the experience is profound. As one commenter put it, “Speaking in tongues distracts the ego/analytical/conscious mind while leaving the subconscious (the heart) wide open to import the divine." Both the spiritual and physical benefits of using this tool are also well documented. Again though, it is important to note that this same statement can be made for virtually _any_ other culture that practices glossolalia. Religious and cultural differences aside, the glossolalia an Evenki Shaman in Siberia, a vodoun priestess in Togo and a Christian tongues-speaker in Alabama are producing are in no way different from each other. They’re all producing their glossolalia in the exact same way; they just have different explanations and beliefs as to why they’re doing it, and where it comes from. It is only in certain Christian denominations where is it construed as something it never was. “Tongues” is to some Christian believers a very real and spiritually meaningful experience but consisting of emotional release via non-linguistic ‘free vocalizations’ at best; non-cognitive non language utterance - the subconscious playing with sounds to create what is perceived and interpreted as actual, meaningful speech. In _some_ cases, I would argue that it is clearly a self/mass delusion prompted by such a strong desire to “experience God” that one creates that experience via “tongues”. ‘Tongues’ (read, *‘languages’* ) - the divine gift, is the God given ability to effortlessly learn to speak and be understood through real-language barriers. It is not xenoglossy, nor is it modern tongues-speech. As a point of note, I’m a Linguist, and let me also add here that I am neither a so-called ‘cessationist’ nor a ‘continuationist’ - I do not identify with either term; in fact, I had never heard the two terms until just late in 2016. As far as I’m concerned, quite frankly, since the Biblical reference of “tongues” is to real, rational languages, obviously “tongues” haven’t “ceased”. With respect to the phrases “divers kinds of tongues” and “diversities of tongues” (1 Cor. 12:10 and 28), one needs to look at what was actually written. First, in v. 10, there is no “various” or “different” here; the passage from the Greek is literally “to another, kinds of languages”. Verse 28 is more straightforward; “kinds of languages”. What is pertinent is that Paul renders ‘kinds’ with the word “genos”. It’s the same root as in our English ‘genus, genetics, genealogy’. It refers specifically to ‘kind(s)’ in the sense of belonging to a ‘family’, ‘race’, ‘people’. A more accurate understanding of “kinds of languages” would be “kinds of languages [belonging to a language family]”. A clear indication that real, rational languages are being referred to here. Paul was the apostle to the Gentiles - it stands to reason he would use his knowledge of foreign languages more than the average person to spread the Gospel, and thanked God for giving him the ability to do so. A frequent use of foreign languages was sort of part of his “job description”. It also stands to reason that he wished others were able to do the same - would make his job a lot easier and the message could be better spread to all corners of the known world. Paul is not speaking about, nor is he advocating here for, modern tongues-speech.

Don't you need to get utterance first by holy spirit,can I just start praying in tongues at will,the Bible says the holy spirit gives utterance.

Thank you for teaching on this. The church we've attended some 20 yrs wants us to sign a document concerning tongues ceasing in this age. And have been wrestling with it because it doesn't seem biblical based. Rather man based. This was explained more clearly than my jumbled up mind.

Speaking in tongues are given for a PURPOSE. (Usually to help people understand) Babbling in a way no one can understand has no purpose.

I've been in Pentecost for 50 years and it is not mandated from pulpits to speak in tongues regularly. It should be Pentecost 101 to spend every day speaking in tongues. The church is a mess people leaving all over the place. People like you and Brian Houston don't want people speaking in tongues because it will do them out of a job. If leaders across the world started in unity to get people to speak in tongues 1 hour every days you wouldn't be able to contain the harvest. There is no evidence anywhere on earth that anyone is really serious. For 50 years the Charismatic movement has failed to promote true Pentecost

Brother I say to you this is a minor gift be careful this is why I am going to Orthodox for doctrines I am not judging but saying 2000 years ago there was a church not 400 years ago it was in hiding or reformed by a monk that wanted to take books out of the new testament this caused division and we all need to seek Christ and what is the real church the bride and groom I wish that we all came back into the church from the beginning and stop. Devision speaking about a gift that Paul said was minor yes it is a gift given by God but Paul was addressing the corith who accepted Christ but were called babes by Paul and followed pagan rituals and had sexual immorality amongst them I'm not calling you anything or judging you nothing bad but what did the early recognized saints act like before Martin Luther and how did Christ work through them

Just start flapping your tongue and there you go

Stick to scripture . Paul says not all speak in tongues ! Seek the greater abilities like profecy !!! Tongues are the least . At the time of petacost , yes God would demonstrate the ability of tongues because that is the time the gospel needed to go out to all the world and be healed . So if you don’t have the gift of healing you also don’t qualify ! Please guys .

This is hogwash. First of all you don’t ask for the spirit. You receive the spirit when you are baptized. “Tongues” in scripture are just languages. They aren’t some animal noises with zero meaning. The spirit interceding for us in prayer isn’t tongues. It’s the spirit hearing our thoughts that we don’t have words for. These spiritual gifts were given to those at that time for the spreading of the gospel. No one today has the gift of unlearned languages.

This lady talks too much, 😂 she must let her husband speak, she’s even speaking over him, it may be the African in me being critical, 🙏🏾😂. All love though.

John you have to slow down, your enthusiasm sounds a little anxious which is not how I typically receive you. What is the purpose of the video? Are you teaching principles or sharing your experiences or are you chatting with your wife? Seems like y'all are caffeinated up?? Love everything about operating in the gifts and ministry of the Holy Spirit just slow down......