For People like Jennie and Hwasa, people generally think that because of their appearance, they're rude people. However, everyone knows Jennie is the sweetest human being and is always looking out for everyone she encounters. Similarly, Hwasa is known as one of the most outgoing, fun idols. She generally tries to make sure everyone is having fun and is comfortable. So it just makes me mad seeing people try to publicly shame them for something they haven't done.

Even if we are hard-core fans we should not blindly side with our idol in these kind of situations ....nor we should go with the staff cause we never know Just stay neutral

Lets not forget that Irene was *defending* her group members. The stylist made her members clothes too short and uncomfortable for her members. And now that it turns out that it was the stylist who was wrong no one praises Irene for being well behaved?? This industry is full of misogynists who don't realise that they have literal mothers.

To me Irene doesn't compare to someone like Kwon Mina.

I had a coworker who was a classic diva. She was rude to everyone, treating us all like we were less than her, even though we were all at the same "rank" within the workplace. I avoided interacting with her as much as possible, but was always friendly when we had no choice but to work together. She managed to convince a couple people that I was mean to her, because I was "jealous" of her. Then she abruptly quit and my reputation was forever tarnished. I can't imagine how much worse staff have it, as idols seem to technically be their bosses.

Idc how famous and successful the idol is it doesn't give them the right to treat other human beings like crap

Muhammad Ali once said something about "don't trust celebrities who are rude to the waiter because if I was the waiter, they would treat me the same"

Honestly I still don't hate Irene after what happened nor do I hate the stylist because we still don't know what happened and why they were arguing. Also a lot I mean A LOT of stylists came forward and said how nice is was even a fan of a mother. We have seen so many times Irene giving staff members gifts and stuff even to her co-workers like nct etc. Also if if they argued, I don't believe it was that bad because there was a time when a hairdresser cut her bangs in a wrong way and it got ruined yet she wasn't angry at her but laughs at it. So yeah that's my pov on this situation.

When idols get mistreated by staffs, all hell breaks loose. When the STAFFS get mistreated, it's bc their idols were having a "bad day🥺". The double-standards in k-industry are beyond my understanding 🙄🤦🏻‍♀️

and people still believe hyunjoo 😐

I don't think Irene was just doing that to be "Evil" , and let's not forget those tons of staff that came in her defence saying when they were working with her she was nice to them 🤷‍♀️..... Don't know what happened to that but the stylist accepted the apology and told everyone to move on. So I think Irene isn't that hard to work with lol... Even that same stylist that accused Irene of having that kind of behavior 💀 posted way back when RV just debuted and she praised her good behavior , but now suddenly it changed and she deleted the post.

I hold Irene accountable for that rude encounter but calling her " a rude person" Is wrong when you know everyone has their bad days. Just one breakdown shouldn't reflect on their whole life. She is known to be one of the kindest idols and people give her hate for just one break down which she humbly apologized for and that other person has also forgiven her publicly

i want people apologize to april, especially with naeun. The way that them hates april without know the whole story is insane, i cry a lot watching that comments they were too cruel...

everyone sounds so mature now. but where were all these comments when AOA and april were put through a hell, meanwhile other idols with similar cases received a total different treatment?? I just gotta say that apologize to april and aoa, spread the word, defend them. hyunjoo and mina are terrible people, everyone close to them has been saying that for a very long time, especially with hyunjoo

I think another example of this is Hwayoung from T-ARA

Hyunjoo is the villain

poor APRIL 😢

Facts: Fans treat their idols as gods..but when commits mistakes, idols become humans...😏

A person's true nature is revealed in unexpected situations. People can never be truly honest in your face, it's what they say behind your back that truly tells your character.

the snake Hyunjoo karma gonna get her soon

Thank you for making this! What Irene did in the moment was not okay. The stylist who messed up on the RV members clothes needed to be approached and Irene needed to be held accountable for the encounter and choice of words to the stylist. Once the situation all got out and into the media Irene apologized twice and also to the stylist, which the stylist forgave her. But listen, the thing is- okay I am a multi-stan. I love BTS, Red Velvet, EXO, BLACKPINK, SHINee, TWICE, Aespa, ATEEZ, ITZY, TXT, NCT..etc. I mean it when I say that Irene is literally one of the most kind hearted idols out there. Irene is a personn who is allowed to get upset. Being quiet, reserved, and introverted does not means that you are a rude person. You know what it can mean, that you struggle with social anxiety. Which is the fear a person has of being judged or scrutinized when they talk. Now imagine social anxiety while being a kpop idol, I am pretty sure so many idols have this problem as well as many people around the world. The amount of pressure that is on Irene is not healthy- for any artist. Though Irene has to suck it up to be one of the most loved idols, even if she happens to be an introvert, a feminist, and a woman in the Kpop misogynist world.

Lmao the Irene one is ridiculous, seriously it was just a one time workplace argument. That shit happens all the damn time, I’ve too been yelled at by my bosses before. Some I deserved, others I didn’t but I never acted like a brat and posted my work issues on social media just because I got yelled at one freaking time. There’s a procedure you go through to sort crap like this out if you feel like you’ve been wronged or have issues with someone else in your work environment but because that staff member ignored the required procedure/steps and instead decided to do something stupid like take the issue to social media, what for ? Attention ? Maybe to get back at Irene for yelling at her, then I ain’t got no sympathy for that staff member at all. Plus her story ain’t bloody consistent. Another thing from my experiences over the years in the workforce is that normally if your manager or boss or the person your working for is yelling at you, that means you fuck’d something up. Work is not school, you are required to meet expectations of whatever job you do, if y’all can’t hack it, refuse to listen or slack off, then don’t act like a drama queen stating they were just being rude to you for no reason, when in reality you’ve obviously done something wrong and don’t want to own up to it

One thing I'll never forget us how robotic Irene looked after the whole scandal, I wanted to cry

It was time that RED VELVET fixed that problem with their stylist I agree with IRENE because the staffs actually treating them badly by giving them uncomfortable clothes. And because the idols speak out about the staff ,they always try to look for something to say about the idols

Yeah, its hard to work with people who's "rude".... But Idk with kpop tho. Maybe ppl find it "annoying" if idols are "rude" cuz they should be "perfect"

Hyunjoo has lied so many times and now that the public gradually realizes the truth, she turns off the comments hahaha

I think hyunjoo is liar, April should be comeback to stage.

thank you for not being one sided and also added how many staffs praised/defended irene. Subscriber for life 💗

The fact that you have Irene in the same list with Mina when everyone knows it was a one time occurrence is messed up.

I hate the double standards in kpop

Hwasa and Jessi are just so nice manh. They just show what they are, no mask or filter. And for that people hate them(also for not having the standard beauty). And those with perfect beauty standards "acco to people" can never go wrong.

Hyunjoo definitely got special treatments from DSP. But, instead working harder to be better, she abused it and make the members and staffs life difficult. Now, seeing April's career, especially Naeun starting to take off, while hers still nowhere even after Uni.T and all the projects given by DSP. She, her brother, and her friends using the #metoo bullying movement momentum wrote lies to ruin others life.

I was working with a girl once who was clearly in a bad mood...the boss, a very low-key & friendly guy, who had just arrived, walked by and said in a nice tone "Hey guys...It should be a busy day...make sure everything is ready to go." He said this as he was looking at his paperwork and never raised his voice even a little. As soon as he was gone the girl next to me said "I'm so sick of him being over here SCREAMING at us like that EVERY FIVE MINUTES." I think of her when I hear stories like the one about Irene.

glad people are slowly finding out about hyunjoo and her lies

For those who want to know more about April vs hyunjoo, these are some of inconsistencies on hyunjoo's words. 1. Hyunjoo said she was bullied from 2014 to 2016. But, her brother said the bullying happened right before the debut (the debut date: 24th Aug 2015). It started in 2014 or 2015? 2. Hyunjoo said she was bullied by April and had to live with them 24/7 in the dorm since 2014. But, none of April members lived in the dorm during the training and the dorm was used by Rainbow (their sunbae) until early 2015 before passing it to April (there's an article about this). 3. Hyunjoo herself told in the interview in Nov 2015 that they started practicing and living together for about half of year. She also told that she and other April members were got along very well (there's also an article about this). 4. Hyunjoo's brother said that April and the managers left her sister alone when she fainted during practices and schedules. But, there're multiple articles posted on fancafe saying the manager carried back hyunjoo who was injured at the time 🤔 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bK2hia50xMqVeKM.html 5. Hyunjoo's brother said her sister was scared to go back to the dorm and had to sleep on the floor in the company lounge. But the lounges in every levels are full of sofas. Why she chose to sleep on the floor, not on the sofas? 6. Hyunjoo told she received harassment messages from April and the parents. But, in her latest statement, she changed her words from "the harrasment messages" to "the parents' perspectives". 7. She also changed her words, from "precious tumbler given by my deceased grandma" to "tumbler was given by my grandma who was sick at that time..." 8. She said she would ask the permission from the 'bullies' before showing 'the harassment messages' to the public. Weird cause Chaewon and Naeun's sister even asked the proofs in their ststement that she was really bullied back then months ago. 9. Based on her previous statement, she said naeun put cheonggukjang in her precious tumbler and left it for several months in the company's fridge. She told that she also got scolded by the staff because of that incident. However, she said in her latest statement that she really cherished that tumbler and always carried around on her. 10. Isn't it weird that she didn't realize her precious tumbler she always carried with her missing for several months? Or maybe she knew that her precious tumbler left in the fridge for several months, but why she let it rotten for months? 11. Based on the proofs uploaded by Chaewon's mom, the mothers especially Chaewon and Hyunjoo’s moms got along really well. They wished each others birthday, went shopping and eating together. Totally different to what hyunjoo told. 12. The fact that she didn't even bother to clarify the part where April told in the exclusive interview that she often accused April of stealing her belongings (money and pants) and lied about many things (went to dinner without her) to the management is so suspicious to me. 13. Basically, hyunjoo provided zero evidences. All of the evidences she submitted to the police were one sided evidences: articles from forum, old diariesand her kakaotalk messages to dsp's ceo. 14. If April really lied everything in their exclusive interview just to gaslight hyunjoo, why hyunjoo didn't sue them and dsp for defamation? Hyunjoo only sued one staff for the invasion of privacy. P/s: For those who still think hyunjoo are now fighting alone, you are totally wrong cause she hired one of the toptier legal team in korea. So, she's not fighting alone. That's all. Thank you for reading this long comment!!!

I never comment on videos but what is up with the moral policing in k-pop? I think both the stylist and Irene are the victims of this culture of "perfection" built around idols. Stan them or don't if you don't want to.. but bringing this up after a year is just harmful for both parties. Let.it.go. people. Please.

I've seen multiple articles about nicest idols to work with by staffs poll. One of them are Red Velvet especially Wendy and Seulgi. If you only want to judge her by single mistake, at least remember her 100+ good deeds. Oh yes, there's certain korean youtuber got arrested because he make fake nasty vid about Irene and SM artist. Further more, the so called VICTiM already forgive her and ASK everyone to move on, haters just need to do the same.

I thought the whole thing about Irene was the stylist burned her a couple of times. I heard Irene asked the stylist to be more careful and she wasn't which caused an outbreak. I would flip out too

I remember when y’all were all on Mina side and telling Jimin to kill herself, and now switching to Jimin’s side now knowing the true story. Mina ruined everyone in AOA’s reputation bc she couldn’t handle their solo success.

The stylist literally put Joy in a REALLY SHORT dress.. there were some times where Joy had to pull her dress down!! And the members earpiece kept falling off during their performance and let's not forget it's been a while since they performed in sbs the place where Wendy's accident happened so of course everyone was on the edge.. one encounter with someone shouldn't define everything about that person.. many staffs who actually know Irene defended her and stayed by her side.. we shouldn't paint or judge a person just because of one incident

I’m so proud that Jimin is coming back! It sucks that she was forced to leave AOA and I blame Mina for the downfall of such a great group. I’m also glad that April was proved innocent as I just recently got into them and I was worried about supporting a group that bullied a member. I definitely have learned from AOA to wait until all evidence is revealed. But wasn’t it proven that Hyunjoo wasn’t the one that said all that? That it was someone else that started that rumor??

DON'T PUT IRENE IN THE SAME FRAME AS MINA, those are two different breeds

this is why i stayed neutral about hyunjoo and april's case. i knew hyunjoo before the scandal because of that 1 video in the unit where she was really manipulative. i hope the truth come out soon

Tbh the whole irene scandal actually made me like her significantly more. i suppose it was the way she handled things. several people vouched for her character, she herself apologized not once, but twice, the second time being quite a time after things happened and when the scandal coveraged had passed. she just seems like a genuine person and i suppose it really helped humanize her in my eyes! lots of people hold these very strict and rigid expectations of idols and glorify this idea of "perfection" that is honestly very sickening to me. of course its not okay to treat people badly cause of status, but that's not what irene did comparatively to others like mina. irene i personally think had a more sound rational for what she chose to do. She could have gone about it a better way surely, but to be scrutinized the way she was by the public just made me wanna like her more. people are so quick to abandon their idols at the drop of a hat. you shouldnt worship idols, but you also shouldnt just turn your backs on them from random heresay that happens. doing things like that lead to what has happened to soojin or lucas. you can hold people accountable without sending hatred. And you can support your idols not blindly as well. anyhow irene is wonderful stan red velvet

There are many cases where Red Velvet got terrible, uncomfortable clothes. Irene was doing her job as a leader and defending her group. Now she is labeled as a b*tch. Great, it will be even harder for female idols to speak up for themselves.

May sound as biased but the irene thing was just to ruin her image and sm took action late not just 1 multiple staffs came out in defense of irene.

I literally don’t blame Irene for getting pissed at the stylist 💀 have you seen the ridiculous outfits they give those girl 💀💀💀 and let’s be real every human has gotten pissed at someone 🤡

Irene shouldn’t have been disrespectful towards that stylist, but it sounds like the stylist was also being rude towards everyone. Either way, she took responsibility for the incident and apologized without making excuses for her behavior. I wish people would stop bringing this up to attack her because the stylist accepted the apology and it sounds like Irene generally isn’t that type of person. We all do things we’re not proud of, but that doesn’t define us.

Istg never been so fast in clicking a notification

#hyunjoolies

Yes kookielit expose hyunjoo 👏👏

OML that April fiasco! shit was crazy and Hyunjoo was so stupid to pull that 💀

My predictions came true I know hyunjoo is bad

Stop defending Irene. Irene has a nasty attitude . it’s obvious even before this story broke.

You'd think that people would learn from T-ara's bullying scandal to stay neutral and not send hate to the accused members and cancelling them without any concrete proof but the history repeated itself and now April members and Jimin's career and possibly their mental health has been ruined just because everyone wants to feel morally superior by believing everything they read on the internet without any proof.

Just out of curiosity. What are company managers & owners doing about problems within groups? How do they discipline members with attitude problems? How do they discipline bullies?

honestly it's so sad how everyone was so quick to jump to conclusions on april and aoa's cases. in the end, no one benefitted from any of the accusations as no one from any of the groups has very good reputations and all lost many opportunities because of some misunderstandings. none of the two groups had to end this way

Saw Hyunjoo from a mile awayyyy. If anyone watched her drama on Rains idol show you’d know. I was so mad she played victim and now..I still am unhappy about that situation. The rapper girl is talented

every idols can't be good.Fans just treating them like gods and worship thrm blind by beauty don't see or accept or don't like to admit their true self it is ridiculous. Companies don't test their personalities before accept.

Its just unbelivable that someone defends irene after that, she is arrogant, rude, has no education, hurted a defenseless person and confessed all of this, averyone who defends her should be embarassed

There's always a reason behind someone's involuntary actions and wrongdoings, it's not like they would do something immoral out of the blue and without any motive. It just seems...wrong. And also regarding the idols' behavior, it's indeed hard to judge a person's true identity and intentions when we can only see them on screen. But let this be a reminder that all of us are human beings, and so are the idols so there's no perfect creature on earth living a perfect life. (At least that's what the Kpop world wants its idols to be and views them as that) I'm staying neutral in this too, I'm not siding with anyone until VALID evidence is exposed.

My friend is a mixed idol in South Korea and you would not believe the amount of “nice looking” idols are actually absolutely horrible people and bullies.

Idk why netizens literally insult stylists when something goes wrong but when an idol does it, they're the wrost person in the world 🤦‍♂️

Why is Irene on this list if the rumor was debunked?….

It's obviously wrong for Irene to do that, but people have their own bad days, but still it doesn't make it right. However I don't think that it's something that we should cancel Irene for

Staff is like the servants that served the noble families. They hear and see so much and if treated badly, they can unleash a giant hell on people

Most of these netizens complaints as if they don't have any bad attitude to themselves

Idols one word ruin their life they have to take step carefuly iys better to stay quiet but idols are also humans they become tired bcz of tight shcedule that why they become rude sometime so some people have to understabd their situation

Everyone has bad days, atleast irene apologized and realized she was in the wrong, and is more cautious about her actions, the stylist forgave her and that's all that matters, I hope her and the stylist are doing well :)

idk about others but JENNIE is literally the sweetest human being on planet! netizens addressing her as "rude" just because of her looks is just disappointing!

I hope the staff would out all the idols with bad attitudes

we as fans need to realise that sometimes these idols are fake and are not how they are when they act on cameras

so what if she has a resting B face and so what if she has a diva persona not everyone can own and they all result in don't mess with me or else

And there lovelyz after disbanded most of staff and director that used to work with them praised of their kindness and politeness...

how much we love our idols we need to know that we are just fans who are seeing what they show us; my mother and I have very strong bond I pretty much know what she is or her overall character and vice versa but lmao trust me once when I as young I went to her office and I literally thought she is completely some other person due to her behavior with her colleagues, like I can't say its good or bad but it was completely different, and she said to me most of the people are living a double life in in most of the works, so obviously a public figure will act a particular way, I have always thought why many idols have similar persona and probably 90% of them are fabricated, also from all these am not saying they all are evil b1tches it's just maybe the most bubbly and hyperactive one is maybe a shy introvert, the badass b1tch could be complete opposite, the motherly [mature] one could be the child lmao like that etc. etc.

Those who encounter constant rude behaviors from certain idols or groups , they should expose them , they don't deserve Fan's love and respect

Imagine if flight attendant revealed those idols, their career will go downhill.

lmao people who are defending Irene, if the situation was reserved those people would have been like "idols life is so hard" "that stylish was so rude" "she don't deserved of being called a human" or some shit like that like shut up and except that what Irene did was wrong.

Amazing topics

at the end of the day try to be nice to each other. you never know if they got dirt on you.

I agree that Scolding and saying such hurtful words isn't a very polite way of communicating, So by that Irene should be accountable by her actions fairly as how staffs is also accountable if they ever did the same to other Idols. But we can't really base on everything on what we read nor see so I think It also ain't a great choice to throw on fire on both sides after all the apologize should only be on Irene and the Stylist watch and not ours to judge on, We don't know exactly what happened so adding hurtful words on one another shouldn't be tolerated specifically to Irene since she's the spotlight of controversy we don't know what really is she going through and as a fellow introvert we find it very hard on conveying words we really want to chose on since having great social skills isn't one of our best sides. Everyone also has their outburst moments and as a human that's normal so probably if it's just an ordinary person it would slid off but then she's an idol so it's a double standard. The stylist forgive her already so I don't get the idea of creating more fuss about the situation. Just leave it and stop judging like you know a lot about what really happened as if you're there entirely. both sides shouldn't receive a god damn burst of hate. Overall Irene doesn't deserve to be labeled as one of this other idols mentioned such as Kwon Mina, like do I really have to discuss why?? What Irene did isn't great but it isn't as inhumane as such other behavior, it's more of a situation we could easily enter to but not as some of this stories.

Yeah, Irene is the kindest person alive. If you did something to piss-off Irene, it must have been a “whopper”. Take responsibility and quit trying to shift the blame on Irene.

I’m pretty sure if she wasn’t at fault she would apologize for her actions. They definitely got paid to say she wasn’t at fault. Smh

The idols can't even give their opinions on their comebacks Overworking the idols

Antis: Irene bully her staff she's rude 60+ Irene staff: You shouldn't look at one side only Irene is a very warm hearted person it hurt us to hear this kind of thing about her Also her staff: The girls are very very nice that it's too much

no literally the Irene issue should have been kept private instead of making a shady post and when it got the attention they started calling her out on the public like

I don’t think you understand the term “debunked” 😂😂

Dive studios is where you can find the podcast...there are multiple podcasts that one is get real season one season 2 Matthew is rarely there.

Everyone most definitely have bad days but that’s still not an excuse to lash at anyone

i love this channel

Not everyone have good personality. Even i am not so nice with everyone. I got easily annoyed at people and much more. Because i know of my personality, i just decided to not engage much with other people. Only interact with them for work or study. But sometimes, we need to have basic human decency too.I hate my own roommate because her personality and habits. But we never fought or talk behind each other because i only hate her in my heart but still be nice with her outside. I got the feeling she felt the same way as me.

it's funny how kpop stans like to sully jennie's image by saying she's rude but she's never had a rumor of being rude to a staff, quite the contrary, staffs go public to say she's actually kind and cute behind from the cameras, they post pictures with her as friends, a staff has even defended jennie from haters and a member of bp's band that accompanies the pinks at shows has defended jennie from a hate comment too.

I was also expecting Hwayoung here but I guess you forgot about her..

I do think Jennie looks intimidating with her pretty cat eyes, but I remember watching Blackpink house and how sweet and shy she was, also how she was so anxious to meet the fan that her hand was shaking and lisa helped her give the fan the present🥺💕 I try to stay neutral when looking at ppl now cuz unless you know someone you never truly know

The problem is with them being called "idols" that's when the expectations rise People just need to stop making them god and just stick with enjoying their art

These are mostly rumors and hearsays...

Irene is unique person...she is extremely focus and alert person...she also cant hide her feelings when she is irritated...her face tells it all...she is a plain and raw person who likes to compete thats all...but every irritated face that she make is reasonable...maybe she knows something in the industry that we dont...but people just judge her wrong

the truth is that there are rude people and that people have been able to prove it by being with them and there are other people who SEEM to be rude and that people have been with them and have seen that they were not what they thought, the same thing happens to me, people say He used to tell me that when they met him it was hard for them to talk or get close to me because I have that aura that I'm going to send them to hell and then when they meet me they tell me “you weren't what I thought you were, I thought you were like this and like that "It's amazing how people can create an image of you that you're not, it used to hurt me to be told that.

Sooo.... Another stylist saying she had a pleasant encounter with Irene "debunks" the stylist who was verbally attacked by Irene?? Um no. I don't think so... No matter what the stylist Did, she didn't deserve 20 mins of being berated and yelled at.

I am always waiting for your vids!