THE MOST IMPORTANT DETAIL About The Division 3

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RogueGold

RogueGold

Күн бұрын

The Division 3 has some clear advantages heading into its development, ones that I think give it the chance of surpassing the first two games in terms of quality, and player reception upon launch. Let me know your thoughts!
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@RogueGold
@RogueGold 9 ай бұрын
I'm still a bit congested, so apologies if I sound stuffy in the video 😄 Thanks for watching!
@zombiepiecesgaming5018
@zombiepiecesgaming5018 9 ай бұрын
I hope you feel better soon dude 😌 gotta be ready for the new season on Tuesday!!
@chrisvalen
@chrisvalen 6 ай бұрын
I just hope the Shield bearer and Gunner will be more tanky. So everyone doesnt have to be technician because that was stupid
@JakNBlak
@JakNBlak 9 ай бұрын
A big thing I think they should do this time is let the gaming world get their hands on it MONTHS before release. No fake beta. A real beta for us to help them test things
@1985Seraphim
@1985Seraphim 9 ай бұрын
Agreed. That’s essential for the Division 3s success.
@DavidSantos-ix1hu
@DavidSantos-ix1hu 9 ай бұрын
Fr a great tester is the community we can catch exploits,bugs,and items that need tuning faster then they can 😂😂😂😂😂
@LicensedGunn
@LicensedGunn 9 ай бұрын
Not a month that's too late , a year out at minimum
@SHMlKE
@SHMlKE 9 ай бұрын
Agreed, I've been on some amazing AAA closed beta testing and the progress these guys are making while being 100% transparent is so perfect and any serious game should be doing.
@MortenRyberg
@MortenRyberg 9 ай бұрын
I dont like to base creative vision solely on data and feedback. Its important to bring something that surprises and caputre new audiences (pls remember I know nothing about Div 3 and are not an employee anymore)
@RogueGold
@RogueGold 9 ай бұрын
Definitely a good point, new ideas and features are always exciting. Though I would imagine that data is specifically useful for more core systems that will likely see iteration rather than complete evolution, so as to not repeat mistakes made in the past or things like that.
@seapanda-117
@seapanda-117 9 ай бұрын
I really want a character and inventory application for iOS, Android, Windows, Linux, Mac, and anything else i didnt think of haha.
@RogueGold
@RogueGold 9 ай бұрын
Would be awesome!
@moochoman9948
@moochoman9948 9 ай бұрын
Im deffinately one of those Division players you mentioned at the begining of the video. Hopefully Div3 can get me as excited and hyped as Div1 did!
@stunt95hstdt89
@stunt95hstdt89 9 ай бұрын
A friend of mine who played Div 1 like crazy and never grew to like Div 2 told me that he would buy it instantly if the movement, healing and specialization system was like in the first title. While i dont dislike the approach of Div 2 in that regard... I get where he is coming from and I agree to some part. Those 3 things made me not touch the darkzone in div 2 even a single time.
@stunt95hstdt89
@stunt95hstdt89 9 ай бұрын
I miss my build with the Big Alejandro + Tactical Link + Lone Star Gear Set. With all those Firerate buffs and the possibility to refill the mag a few times, this was mental :D Sounded like an A-10. Thats just one thing I miss though. There was way more.
@JustTryingToYoutube
@JustTryingToYoutube 9 ай бұрын
As someone who’s only played the 2nd I can’t believe someone missed out on such a amazing game I understand it’s different but come on
@stunt95hstdt89
@stunt95hstdt89 9 ай бұрын
Its different for every person I guess. Can only speak for myself. I played both and I liked the PVP in Div 1 more then in Div 2, whereas in Div 2 I liked the PVE more.
@ashtonback1713
@ashtonback1713 8 ай бұрын
Your friends right. Div 2 tried to reinvent the wheel and as usual, failed, and in the process alienated a lot of existing fans. Successive titles that do well have continuity and familiarity, using the same foundation with good additions to supplement each title.
@gamemaster27
@gamemaster27 9 ай бұрын
I think the division 3 should follow the path of the division 1 game trailer.
@skwad8465
@skwad8465 9 ай бұрын
Keep up the good work RogueGold.
@RogueGold
@RogueGold 9 ай бұрын
🫡
@MS-rb4bp
@MS-rb4bp 9 ай бұрын
Fantastic video, man, really appreciate the perspective. These are things that players/consumers don’t often think about WRT development timelines and key decision points in a project, and I’m 100% with you on the likely trajectory they were on/challenges faced when D1 dropped to MASSIVE fanfare and D2 was near-instantly green lit (the only real way it could have come out when it did, etc.) Kudos, and keep up the good work, you’re one of the best in the biz rn, and my top dog 💪
@RogueGold
@RogueGold 9 ай бұрын
That's incredibly kind of you to say! Thanks for the positivity 👊👊
@romancuriel1233
@romancuriel1233 8 ай бұрын
Im so excited for division 3 I loved division 1 1.8 so much hopefully it feels fun like that and hopefully we get a huge darkzone! while still having some new things like 8 player raids in the game
@-SashaAlex-
@-SashaAlex- 8 ай бұрын
I love Division cause of the amazing gadgets that completely changes the fights like no other game. Really hope the third game has more crazy skills as well as a better and beautiful world to explore.
@deanwatson4562
@deanwatson4562 9 ай бұрын
Great video I love your content and everything mentioned here is incredibly accurate imo. Div 3 will be a return to its roots and more!
@RogueGold
@RogueGold 9 ай бұрын
🙏 Thanks so much!
@rambilo6236
@rambilo6236 8 ай бұрын
I real like the division 1, i was sad the snow was gone in division 2
@edawyoh6070
@edawyoh6070 9 ай бұрын
Div 3 should let you decide on character chioce if you want to be a rogue or SHD agent. Tailoring the game to that choice... Making the would world a PVPVE experience. Rouges have missions to take over bases, check points, and interdict SHD agents' actions and vice versa. That would make it a true living game... and actions are molded by the agents who are logged on. Extractions can be called from anywhere like the original trailer of Div 1. PVErs would have to plan for encounters, but since it's the whole world, the chances would be a toss up having to look at the map to see enemy activity and decide your choices. All gear has to be extracted for immediate use, or taken to the nearest safe house with the exception that some task have to be completed to gain access to the gear, making gear meaningful and still having a grind to get it. Whether it's taking the risk of PVPing when you extract or completing additional PVE actions to get access to the gear. Completing missions and activities will reward more gear and deposit that gear directly to your inbox, but what the npc's drop has to be taken out via extractions, safe house or op-bases. This will give everyone what they want and make the game easier to balance
@grimreaper6112
@grimreaper6112 8 ай бұрын
No one has a clue what will come out.
@Citizen_JQP
@Citizen_JQP 4 ай бұрын
Forced pvp in any format will fragment and ultimately destroy the community. Looking at the numbers, most players play pve only. Nice ideas, but it wouldn't work.
@SergeiSugaroverdoseShuykov
@SergeiSugaroverdoseShuykov 9 ай бұрын
6:40 in majority of times developers don't fix "all those nasty bugs" during extended production time because of zero pressure, so assuming that half a year would make significant difference in outcome is exceptionally optimistic point of view, even early access gives more motivation to fix bugs than having infinite time to do so.
@RogueGold
@RogueGold 9 ай бұрын
If the extra time is given with no set objective then yes I agree there are many examples of bugs persisting as scope continually increases. I should have elaborated, but more what I had in mind was what it was reported Starfield's delay from Nov 2022 to September 2023 entailed, which was a time period exclusively for polishing and bug fixing the existing content, not adding anything extra.
@pafal3144
@pafal3144 9 ай бұрын
Everyone already mentioned everything else. I personally want better visual weapon costumization, not something crazy like tarkov, but a ghost reacon level of costumization would be nice. Muzzle,scope,grip/foregrip,stock,magazine. Being forced into using the same 3 crit chance attachments is just lame!
@thejack4243
@thejack4243 9 ай бұрын
You speak truth as usual brother.... my thoughts exactly 👊
@RogueGold
@RogueGold 9 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it! 👊
@scottiewaters7684
@scottiewaters7684 9 ай бұрын
Get well soon brother! 👊👊
@RogueGold
@RogueGold 9 ай бұрын
Thanks my friend!
@bartosz3837
@bartosz3837 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for nice video
@RogueGold
@RogueGold 9 ай бұрын
👊 Thanks for watching!
@Uncleruckus403
@Uncleruckus403 9 ай бұрын
I wonder in TD3 will they go for the tactical feel instead of the enemy level thing they did in DV2 and DV1
@thaipankatima658
@thaipankatima658 9 ай бұрын
As long as they learned from D1 and D2 and improve upon it. Maybe adding a little more activities rather than just repeating everything over and over. Make no mistake, I do love the grind. But so long as I can make progress. Like getting better gear, improving my character even more, and unlock new attires. I'm all for it. The grind would be bearable if the reward was worth it. And no! You can't just add a backpack trophy or an arm patch and call it a day. Those rewards stink to high heaven. And please make a new story. I really want to see the end game for the Black Tusk but end it with Natalya. Putting her in the sequel will be like resurrecting a dead horse.
@adamkostowicz7289
@adamkostowicz7289 9 ай бұрын
I’m just playing through the campaign of 2 again….after many of hours I’m still under shd level 600 and the Eagle Bearer isn’t going to happen because I’m to shitty for the dark zone on Assault weapon day and countdown is no better….hopefully when 3 comes I can get started right away and not years later
@bjornmarx7205
@bjornmarx7205 9 ай бұрын
I would also love to have finishing moves… 🥶👌🏻
@chrisholbrook4646
@chrisholbrook4646 9 ай бұрын
Another player/contributors summit would be cool
@RogueGold
@RogueGold 9 ай бұрын
If you're referring to the ETF, that's still an active program they regularly utilize for Division 2 at the moment. They just haven't done in-person summits in a while due to world conditions.
@hunter3534
@hunter3534 9 ай бұрын
hope they make getting better stuff harder to get so not everyone is running around with the same weapons
@cal7281
@cal7281 8 ай бұрын
they should definitely add the survival mode in division 3 that mode was so good
@RogueGold
@RogueGold 8 ай бұрын
It likely won't be there since they're essentially developing it into its own spin-off with Heartland
@Blorkion64
@Blorkion64 8 ай бұрын
Honestly I didn't like the 2nd game. I played through it and had fun but the game has zero immersion for me. On the other hand, I still play the first game all the time. I played everyday of the global event this week and had a lot of fun. Even though the enemies are bullet spongy it's still easy for me to get immersed in this game and get lost for hours and hours.
@adammaginnis719
@adammaginnis719 9 ай бұрын
I hope Tom Clancy’s The Division 3 will have seasons think Spring, Summer, Autumn/Fall, and Winter and continue with the weather changes during the game idk that would be cool
@Mr_Blinx_
@Mr_Blinx_ 8 ай бұрын
My biggest gripe is how i cant play with my mate on pc like yeah pc players are mad on mouse and keyboard but cross platform needs to be in division 3 at least in the open world but darkzone im not fussed about 😂
@Libertarian1776
@Libertarian1776 9 ай бұрын
With almost 8 years in one would certainly hope they would know by now what works and doesn't work and what the fans gravitate toward most, my only concern is we will be at the end of this current consoles life and I'd hate to see it held back like Div 2 was with last Gen consoles. My big hope is give me a great story and lots to explore (open up damn near every building to loot), let me naturally play (and enjoy) the game without all the unnecessary grinding. I'm currently playing starfield with 260hr in less than a month and I couldn't care less about what level I am because I'm having so much fun with so much to see and do, I realize they are two different types of games but in the same token they are a lot more alike than ya think, especially when you play it in 3rd person, my point is you can make a MASSIVE open world with lots to see, do and explore and still make a great game. I will ALWAYS love the franchise but right now Div 2 will get my attention on the time sensitive stuff and that's about it, I'm sick of playing the same maps over and over and over again and I'm sick of the grind the Devs created with lack of real content.
@RogueGold
@RogueGold 9 ай бұрын
It's a valid concern, although I don't think we're too likely to see a "regression" in hardware capability, if that makes sense. The current tech allows for some pretty great experiences, and so I'd imagine it'll suffice for most of what they'd want to do with TD3, even if it releases 3-4 years from now
@Malacite
@Malacite 9 ай бұрын
Personally I just hope that the team has learned from their other projects, as well as what other games in the space have tried to help craft the best possible experience. And also now that Ubisoft has finally recognized the IP for its status, maybe they'll get more leeway with corporate.
@aaronfilipowich3877
@aaronfilipowich3877 9 ай бұрын
I'm not sure, not a tech guy but since the bulk of the character, npc, weapon and skill models are in use with Div 2 would that not speed up the development process? I mean it seems like Black Tusk and True Sons are continuing on if Sokolova's deal with Anderson is too be believed so those models could stay the same (but unlikely). I understand the environment will be new, so that will take a lot of time. I would venture to guess end of 2025 for release. I'm going to go out on a limb and say however well Resurgence does with having a div 2 specialization and div 1 ultimate ability goes over we could see that in use in Div 3.
@zerodaye9854
@zerodaye9854 9 ай бұрын
It would depended heavily on the change in the engine. If the engine changes are massive, they would basically need to recreate those assest. The time is not as long as it would be for new assests but still time is needed. Then you need to test and test and test again to ensure the assests function the way you expect them to as they were built for a different system.
@RogueGold
@RogueGold 9 ай бұрын
@aaronfilipowich3877 I can't claim to know a ton about that stuff either, so I can't fully answer that. But it's very possible that it takes less than 3 years! I just think that as much as we all want the game ASAP, allowing the team to create a wholly new and evolved experience without it just feeling like Division 2.5 and have a lot of bugs at launch, will be very beneficial.
@rinokumura9414
@rinokumura9414 8 ай бұрын
just give me div 2 with enhanced classes classified gear and all features of the spec rework that didnt happen; set gear over legendary gear in base stats and total power; a darkzone like in division 1 more warlords like dlcs instead of seasons and crosssave in a new map bigger than div 1
@Hooch92Gaming
@Hooch92Gaming 7 ай бұрын
Hope we get something more than missions to farm they can do better than that
@USMC-es4yy
@USMC-es4yy 9 ай бұрын
Eeeehhh wish I had a time machine!!
@FLYNN..
@FLYNN.. 9 ай бұрын
The winter setting of division 1 was far superior
@wizencoyote78
@wizencoyote78 7 ай бұрын
Cant wait for The Division 3, Heartland, and the future of Ubisofts games, hope they add an offline mode to TD3, hope I can soon get an external ssd to download TD1 and 2 again, had to delete them for space a year or 2 ago and the previous place I lived the wifi was awful for The Division games, even for CoD that has servers in South Africa it was bad, The Division games wouldve been 2 of my favorite games ever if they had offline
@RogueGold
@RogueGold 7 ай бұрын
Any live service Division games are very unlikely to ever get offline modes, as lots of their real-time computing it done via cloud and game servers rather than on actual hardware.
@wizencoyote78
@wizencoyote78 7 ай бұрын
@@RogueGold Oh ok, do you think a Division built for offline singleplayer campaign would do well, would be cool if they made one but it probably wonte make them as much money as the online ones
@regnarlothbrok
@regnarlothbrok 9 ай бұрын
I’m planning to do a Cartmann for the next 3 years - come open the freezer when TD3 is out 😂
@bjornmarx7205
@bjornmarx7205 9 ай бұрын
I would love to have more survivability. A System were you have to eat, drink, sleep, care about clothing, etc., Maybe clothing gives us stealth or you are less seeable, etc. And some sort of System to sie the collectables. Even for trading for gear and stuff.
@RogueGold
@RogueGold 9 ай бұрын
I think more of those elements will be found in The Division Heartland, and they likely don't want to make the games too similar so as not to compete with themselves
@hunter3534
@hunter3534 9 ай бұрын
bro tf this is not the sims
@alxiong
@alxiong 9 ай бұрын
Crossplay, in PVE it would be great to have! Not sure in PvP…
@RogueGold
@RogueGold 9 ай бұрын
Optimal system there IMO is to do crossplay for consoles by default, and then if a console player wants to join a friend on PC they can but they would always go to PC lobbies, not vice versa
@kevinsmith7316
@kevinsmith7316 9 ай бұрын
As long as division 3 doesn’t give us nothing but descent, summit or countdown again
@pifffan128
@pifffan128 8 ай бұрын
This is great and all, but sometime they still don’t listen. Look at Diablo, Boarderlands, Destiny, Overwatch, Call of Duty etc. Sometimes more time with a franchise does not equate to better sequels or content. I’m hoping nothing but the best though.
@SHMlKE
@SHMlKE 9 ай бұрын
I just hope they understand that they dont know how to balance games and figure a way around that biggest gripe to hopefully bring it into the competitive format which will allow it to shine for many years instead of months. Edit... also division 1 beta pvp was the best time ive ever had in division.
@spiderenigma2803
@spiderenigma2803 8 ай бұрын
we dont even have heartland yet
@lukashuening
@lukashuening 8 ай бұрын
Less Bullet Sponge and a barrier Penetration System please.
@kalebheidbreder8894
@kalebheidbreder8894 9 ай бұрын
Hot take, but I personally really want div 3 to move away from bullet spongy enemies, not because its a looter shooter but because it feels like it limits what builds I can make but it also forces you to min max and make sure everything is to the max and that in my opinion stops me from playing full time because leveling up stuff like the shd watch is just insanely long and unfun
@RogueGold
@RogueGold 9 ай бұрын
It's kind of just a side effect of the genre. It would be really hard to make a Looter with RPG elements and have no bullet sponginess, and make builds + progression feel like they have any payoff and power to them.
@kalebheidbreder8894
@kalebheidbreder8894 9 ай бұрын
@@RogueGold I wouldn’t call it a great example but take a look at destiny, in a sense the game allows from some build crafting and diversity while still not having the sense of bullet spongy enemies, division 3 just needs to hit that fine balance where it keeps its core gameplay but allows for more people to be invested
@breenj3804
@breenj3804 8 ай бұрын
it needs to be dark like super dark it needs hunters big time where you have a single open dark zone with hunters and rogue agents everywhere. it needs modes with less converlooted content. dark and snowy and cold. a bleak future where division agents are on the brink of extinction. where hunter agents and rogue agents are torturing division agents in the streets
@ricogaming2047
@ricogaming2047 9 ай бұрын
i hope and pray but we all know how these AAA game company's do but am hopeful that the division 3 is a great game i love the division 2 am just starting to really learn the gear systems and how it works so to be honest cant wait
@RogueGold
@RogueGold 9 ай бұрын
Hope you enjoy your time with TD2!
@obeattzy
@obeattzy 9 ай бұрын
they wont make it like div one ill be late 30s by div 3 i was 17 when i first played div 1 (div 1 movement +new skills and some of the mix up skills from div 1,2 a better storyline a better pvp then what div 2 has div 1 darkzone wow now that was really good pvp 1 team vs like 9 XD
@kurtrussell9386
@kurtrussell9386 9 ай бұрын
We need Heartland!
@RogueGold
@RogueGold 9 ай бұрын
It's coming!
@user-rn3et7pr9u
@user-rn3et7pr9u 11 күн бұрын
If it don't be balanced for solo players and only third party players is gonna to be the same Game it need to be Playable for everybody not to third party players There got to be balance
@Spardo342
@Spardo342 9 ай бұрын
As far as time to make it I would rather have to wait 5 or 6 years then the game be rushed. I have seen to many games that have been released in the past 6 months that were no where near being ready for release
@RogueGold
@RogueGold 9 ай бұрын
100%
@xm153088
@xm153088 9 ай бұрын
Massive needs to look at everything that excited the player base before the launch of Division 1, and make sure it's in the game. That is what made it the biggest launch of any game at the time. They need to dump all the things players didn't like and make sure that the game isn't broken at launch. No normalization of gear. No optimization station. Instant heals for better PVP. Division 3 will be a tough sell for pre-orders after all the issues there have been. They have a solid PVE game. They need to focus the PVP. I think gear sets shouldn't be in PVP. Go back to the gold gear with just individual talents. And please make the gear stats with a much higher range for each stat. I hate the gear in Division 2 with the tight stat numbers. I want to grind for weeks or months for great gear, not a few hours or maybe days.
@floridaprepper751
@floridaprepper751 9 ай бұрын
It should not take them too long to make division 3, they have 8 years of hard data to work with. And after making 2 division games, stream lining should happen.
@brianesquinas
@brianesquinas 9 ай бұрын
I'm early! video is still in 480p 😂
@RogueGold
@RogueGold 9 ай бұрын
😄 Appreciate it!
@russellcharlton7814
@russellcharlton7814 9 ай бұрын
I understand what you are saying, but AAA developers really do screw the pooch.
@jonathanto99
@jonathanto99 9 ай бұрын
I would give Division 2 a bit more credit. At it's current state it's overall a superior game to Division 1 except for a few shortcomings.
@TMB100
@TMB100 9 ай бұрын
Just make Div 3 like this kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e716d5t1ssfXc4k.html plus some stuff from Div 2 like movement, and that ammo share feature 1 sorely needed, but waiting to get ammo is just so polite lol. You all know which DZ you want lol. Classified gear sets. Elden Ring supercharged with Sekiro end game boss fights lol. Could make for some interesting raids. Maybe by the time this releases, 8 man raids would be too small. 32 = 4 teams of 8, also needing to fulfill specific roles, that grant buffs if met. I get that players hate being forced into playing a specific way\mode, so to alleviate that trivial stress, just reward them for being docile. As for older more accepting peeps. well here's hoping your gaming experience is like how it was back in day..... Fun.
@BFLAT3D
@BFLAT3D 9 ай бұрын
We better get vehicles. And a bigger server with more players.
@joshcam1313
@joshcam1313 9 ай бұрын
One Div 3's biggest advantages is that it can take advantage of next gen hardware instead of xbox one and Playstation 4.
@RogueGold
@RogueGold 9 ай бұрын
I can guarantee it won't be on Xbox One/PS4 👍 Massive is already doing that with Avatar this December.
@DbSounds
@DbSounds 9 ай бұрын
Isn't division heartland number 3??
@RogueGold
@RogueGold 9 ай бұрын
Nope, Heartland is a standalone spin-off title and Division 3 has been announced 👉 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iJidYN2busXWeYk.htmlsi=UeIKiOWafmRnKhH8
@zerodaye9854
@zerodaye9854 9 ай бұрын
Ill say it again, the biggest win they could have outside of some of the obvious ones would be. Letting us keep our characters. Shoot my wish list is letting me migrate my D1 character.
@RogueGold
@RogueGold 9 ай бұрын
That would be neat! Many want all gear/progression to carry over and I think that's unrealistic, but allowing the characters and storyline to transition would be dope.
@zerodaye9854
@zerodaye9854 9 ай бұрын
@@RogueGold super dope something about creating a character that follows you makes me feel like I am actually part of the world.
@dylanlivingston2065
@dylanlivingston2065 8 ай бұрын
"1 Huge Darkzone for Div 3(like Div 1) ": The One thing I would like to see for the Division Div 3, to avoid the issue that Div 1 had, is to make a PVE version of the DZ.{{ here me out..}}Why? So they can focus on making the Darkzone PVP for PVP players and not try to Interest PVE players to go into the PVP Darkzone. and also not Dumb down the PVP game to cater to PVE players that want to experiance the DZ. This does not mean the PVE DZ can not be good,Battlefield 2042 has a mode where you play against Teams of AI ( I have friends that dont like PVP that enjoy it And I think this would work perfectly for PVE players wanting to experience the darkzone but hate the PVP environment (the shit talking we love. Min/max PVP builds, etc..) The PVE Darkzone should be Hard( Like Endgame level difficulty ) to keep them Interested but they would not need hardcore PVP stats,builds,min/max gear to play it. This would seperate PVP and allow the PVP darkzone to be as gloriuos as it was in 1.7, when salty tears of yiur enemies were all you needed to sustain you. If they make 3 seperate DZ's and water down the PVP content then like the DIV 2 i wont play it. I spent about 1800 hours in Div 1. I spent about 300 in Div 2 and rarely went in the DZ(s) they bored the hell out of me. The Div 1 Darkzone was an addiction that kept yiu coming back for more time after time.
@RogueGold
@RogueGold 8 ай бұрын
The issue is that the Dark Zone was never meant to be a PVP zone. Reclaiming the "glory" of 1.7, as you put it, would be fantastic- but that sounds like what most people want out of a dedicated PVP mode. From conception, the Dark Zone was meant to be the most lucrative endgame farming zone, and for that extra reward the threat of PVP is present. Having a PVE and PVP DZ means that no one who wants to farm would ever go into the PVP version... because why take on the extra risk? At that point there's no reason to have any NPC's or objectives in the PVP version, it would just be a brawl zone and lose all of the DZ's identity. Personally my preferred route would be for them to make a great PVE experience across the game, as that's 95% of the content anyway, make some great dedicated PVP modes for launch that satisfy people's thirst for that, and return the DZ back to its intended form- which is a prime farming spot with a lawless nature.
@dylanlivingston2065
@dylanlivingston2065 8 ай бұрын
@@RogueGold yes the issue of a PVE only darkzone inThe Division 1 had multiple threads on the official forums, i use to post on there alot AND i was against a PVE Darkzone. But the issue is that PVE players arent going to PvP. And Who cares if they have a slightly differrent PVE Darkzone than PVP players. There are many ways they could seperate the PVP and PVE darkzones so the PVE is not desirable for PVP players and the PVP DZ is not desiravle for PVE players. This is a issue with Many games that have PVE and PVP in them. The PVE players ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS want their cake anf to eat it to... and PVP players could give a rats ass what PVE players want. If it is set up correctly there would be Numerous reasons why you would want to go into the PVP darkzone and there would also be Alternate reasons to go into the PVE DZ. The issue is no that people would Never go into PVP DZ if there was a PVE darkzone. The Issue is creating Differrnt reasons and alternate rewards for going into one or the other. If they stick to the same model of PVP vs PVE = nothing will change. Lets take Survival mode as a prime example did that kill PVP? Or how about the fact there is 2 seperate games = Div 1 and Div 2 and Both Games still have players in the DZ.. so nothing is going to Kill the PVP Darkzone in The Division. The best bet is to make the best of Both Worlds and then the developers can make the PvP darkzone Like the Division 1 Darkzone was at Release = a Grab you by the balls,edge of your seat,sweaty palmed adrenaline pumping roller coaster of a fantastic time. Instead of the them trying to cater to PVE players that want to play in the Darkzone and players that Cry for their mommy when they get annihalted in the Darkzone.
@RogueGold
@RogueGold 8 ай бұрын
@dylanlivingston2065 I didn't say that having the two options would kill off one or the other, I just believe that the presence of a PVE Dark Zone would reduce/alter the DNA of a PVP Dark Zone to something that is the antithesis of what the Dark Zone was originally intended to be back in Division 1. Just wouldn't be my preference 👍 I appreciate you laying out all of your thoughts!
@dylanlivingston2065
@dylanlivingston2065 8 ай бұрын
@@RogueGold First i want to Thank you for reading and replying to my comments, Thank You! I understand exactly where you are coming from, I am just trying to relate why the Div 1 Darkzone caused a Huge issue for PVE only players (IMO it was the #1 issue) back then I argued against a PVE only DZ. I felt the Same way, that a PVE DZ would take away or ruin aspects of the DZ as it was Designed. (This is also thought to be a reason they split the DZ into 3 smaller zones in Div 2 (No PVP player in DIV 1 asked for seperate smaller Darkzones. The DZ was the Meat and Potatoes of the Div 1 Experiance, why would you ruin that?...) to not make it as obvious that 1/3 of the game is barred from PVE only players(Yes the excuse that nobody is stopping them from entering is a beaten dead horse, just because you can do something, does not mean you want to do something, you are forced to enter a PVP enabled zone to play the Content) Let me explain it this way: Imagine if you Hate First Person Shooters. You buy The Division 1 because it is a 3rd person shooter. But then you find out that the Endgame content (That huge Red area Directly in the center of the Map that takes up 1/3 of the map) is strictly First Person View Only. You would be confused,fustrated and probably angry that you are denied(argueably)the best Content and best Designed Map in the entire game. It woukd 100% make No sense. Now Imagine you are a PVE only player. You paid $59 same as a PVE/PVP player. You open the Map and there in the center taking up 1/3 of the map is a Huge zone in Red. You think"Thats Awesome" and then you find put that if you(as a PVE only player)step foot in there you will be mercilessly Ganked to death ad infinitum. And you find out that this is meant to be the Endgame content to farm the best stuffzzzz. So i the Div 3 instead of making 5 tiny darkzones (For the PVP only crowd that demands Every 1st person shooter game must ne a COD clone = Super fast TTK, small box maps, run and gun shoot,die,respawn yawn fest) All of these things pull the game design in multiple directions: PVE Only, Generic PVP maps,The Darkzone but only with the added risk of PVP(we know PVP in the DZ was the Norm and not a Rare thing) A PVE DZ Or the alternative,and I am completly against this idea = toggleable On/Off for PVP in the DZ
@BLACK_WIGWAM
@BLACK_WIGWAM 9 ай бұрын
Pve should be really randomized open world, quests, loot, side quests, live world stories. Real npcs with quests and storylines , not a retarded dummies. Pvp should be faction based like rogue and agent. With unique options. Real word seasons weather. Interactive world, not a decorations for looting. Real stash management, no limits to loadouts. Report system in pvp, flagging toxic players. Oh, so many opportunities will never come to life…
@dukeofoak762
@dukeofoak762 9 ай бұрын
If the devs incharge of the game the past few years are the ones making the next one its gonna be a train wreck of delays glitches and problems hope im wrong but its geting the same il belive it when i see it div 2s updates get also would love a survival mode and a 3rd party detection system thay are plagueing dz right now
@ShamirAbdul1
@ShamirAbdul1 9 ай бұрын
Exactly...this guy is just blowing smoke up the devs ass...they only care about money and div3 will be another half-baked cash grab...
@freedomfirst5557
@freedomfirst5557 9 ай бұрын
The Division 3: Rome!!!!!!
@souls1lver
@souls1lver 8 ай бұрын
In 2027 next gen will be out
@MountainHigh1984
@MountainHigh1984 9 ай бұрын
Yes I think div the well there's no reason for it to be awful by the way the div 3 will be great. Just great. I have a feeling it will be out faster than we all think as well. I cannot wait they have had alot of years of ganeokaybto go over and learn from to make the perfect div game. Cannot stress enough it gonna be a hit
@freedomfirst5557
@freedomfirst5557 9 ай бұрын
Can anyone send me a pizza, I’m hungry
@RogueGold
@RogueGold 9 ай бұрын
I'll take one
@Ekowitt
@Ekowitt 9 ай бұрын
If they take the best from D1 and D2 we should have a decent game. For me: Dark environment like in D1 One big DZ Separate pvp from PvE...don't force players on the DZ Pvp DZ and a PvE DZ Best regards from Germany 🇩🇪
@godawa-d9288
@godawa-d9288 9 ай бұрын
div 1 was better for pvp
@imonyourside8376
@imonyourside8376 9 ай бұрын
I'm happy they're going to be making Division 3, but it's so far away I'm seriously not even sure I will be alive.
@munchmill14
@munchmill14 9 ай бұрын
just give me divison 1 pvp and division 2 pve, and stop catering to casuals.
@ExplodingPiggy
@ExplodingPiggy 8 ай бұрын
Casuals; A term used to describe people who go outside and engage with other humans, whom also sometimes play video games.
@paulocarvalho1982
@paulocarvalho1982 9 ай бұрын
I would LOVE to comment your 2nd point, but I'm afraid it will be deleted... 😒
@reecedevon9846
@reecedevon9846 9 ай бұрын
Bought and paid for.
@danfinisterre5332
@danfinisterre5332 9 ай бұрын
First comment. high regards, my friend
@RogueGold
@RogueGold 9 ай бұрын
👊👊
@PC_Aiming
@PC_Aiming 9 ай бұрын
What made division 1 such an amazing game was its movement system combined with instant medkits/healing on the move. This makes a skill gap, which is the reason why everyone complained about bullet sponges and how they couldn’t kill anyone in the dz. Reality is these players were just not good enough to hit there shots or make a proper build. Fast forward to the Division 2 they butchered the movement system and make you sit in cover for 3 seconds eating a medkit. It’s a travesty what happened to the franchise.
@Disslikeinator
@Disslikeinator 9 ай бұрын
What has to be done in TD3 ! 1/Get rid of "WARNING NO RESPAWN AREA" from my face ! 2/ I don't fuckn care about your lvl or dz rank or your leader icon or your clan tag ...let me SHUT IT completely OFF ! 3/Save my skill-tree correctly with my saved builds, so I don't have to switch 10% healing or DMG or my 3 weapons . /4 Don't lock items behind social interactions in raids... /5 I'm 100% sure none of this will happen cuz it seems noone actually FUCKN CARES !
@Atty_the_hun_80
@Atty_the_hun_80 9 ай бұрын
We like..MARKO STYLE ..for this stuff...no hard feelings..your stuff it's Good.❤
@kostistsiutras4373
@kostistsiutras4373 9 ай бұрын
IF THEY DONT GET AN EXPERIENCED PVP TEAM BALANCING OUT EVERYTHING IN 1 BIG DARK ZONE WITH AN ACTUAL WORKING ANTICHEAT AND AN ACTIVE BANNING TEAM ESPECIALLY FOR PC EU REGION SERVERS DIVISION 3 IS DOOMED BEFORE IT EVEN BEGINS.
@GB_1972
@GB_1972 9 ай бұрын
Div 2 killed a great community imo
@BigRicanX
@BigRicanX 9 ай бұрын
The Division 3 needs IMO 1. UE5 or start from scratch 2. Cross-save 3. Offline mode 4. Companion app
@RogueGold
@RogueGold 9 ай бұрын
Unless they change the genre/fundamentals of the game, games like TD1/2 can't have an offline mode. Many of the systems/sequences are handled offsite and not on your console/PC. Also the latest version of Snowdrop is equally powerful to UE5, and it's Ubi's proprietary engine so they're never going to switch away from it.
@BigRicanX
@BigRicanX 9 ай бұрын
@RogueGold I'll have to disagree about the snowdrop engine based on Star Wars Outlaws and Avater. It's nowhere as good as UE5. If no offline mode then they'll need dedicated servers . Still for PVE that's all I really play now on the division as I'm done with the PVP. Would be be what I prefer. But I understand it's probably not happening.
@xOperational
@xOperational 9 ай бұрын
I'll get TD3 when they have that $6 deal again. They do nothing for the PVP community. Now they are going to take expertise out of the invaded DZ? Stupid. Then Conflict will be the only part of the game that expertise truly effects. You don't need it for pve so just get rid of it. It's dumb AF!
@davewills6121
@davewills6121 5 ай бұрын
''THE MOST IMPORTANT DETAIL About The Division 3 is'''..........they have only just put a team together, so it'll be years before it drops
@AkbarSnackbar
@AkbarSnackbar 9 ай бұрын
Division 3 isn't coming out. Who are you kidding? they can't even finish heartland thats been in development for yrs and you are telling me we are getting d3? no way in hell unless it comes out in 2030
@kampaa1985
@kampaa1985 8 ай бұрын
Windows of 2-5 years?? Sorry...no wonder why these games fail
@RogueGold
@RogueGold 8 ай бұрын
If they "failed" we wouldn't be getting a third one and several spin-offs ;)
@ShamirAbdul1
@ShamirAbdul1 9 ай бұрын
Can you stop hyping things based on nothing to create content? Also, massive made the exact same mistakes as the first one. Saying that they learned from the previous is BS, since they did the exact opposite of what players wanted.... Div3 will be a half-baked cash grab again.
@dj.mb_one
@dj.mb_one 9 ай бұрын
It will come in 2030😂😂😂And dlc for div 2 will be out 2027
@ciphergamingsouthafrica8502
@ciphergamingsouthafrica8502 9 ай бұрын
you just keep remaking the same info and making multiple videos about the same topic
@Plaguereaper
@Plaguereaper 9 ай бұрын
D1 forever. D2 sucked.
@cctvgrd9107
@cctvgrd9107 9 ай бұрын
Stop clickbait please over and over
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