*Juan

Off topic but ily zenith 😳

Khan is lit!

Ayyyye zenith

I like Hax's voice more than Khan's though

i agree fluttershy my little pony

lol I started a 6 page paper, wrote the title, then immediately came here

I feel you man. I feel you.

I know this is kind of a joke, but it's not worth it man. Please study for your final

Mr. Slowpez I'm fully aware it's not worth it but I continue to push it off anyways

Skipping Electromagnetism II for this lmao

Sadly you're on the ban list 😢

😭 true. No matter what i say they'll never bring me back. But at least we're all on the banlist currently.

I miss you so much ;(

Who are yoy

I still have hope of snows return

I wouldn't expect less from one of the best in the game

How has brilliant fusion been doing? I miss her so much

Absolutely.

@@Ayyem93 I'm surprised just at how deep the knowledge goes. But I guess that's always the case. Every year, something blows my mind about this game.

Make sure to watch AsumSaus as well

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i mean, you can you look at a guy getting kicked in the face with a bionic leg and not call them a victim

wow wtf melee is sick

i cant read

There's so much more Melee to play

It's amazing how complex Melee is

Ima go 3-1 odds for this being a trollpost, any takers?

@Saatvik Palli lasdi, klasdi, jklasdi,

get up attack

The other thing that was hilarious to me was that no weak Sakurai angle moves were recommended at 15:51 for use against Ice Climbers besides neutral B, as in its best to just laser camp them to avoid wobbling. Great video, I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say these videos are amazing and informative, and much needed in the pandemic when there is almost no Melee content.

AbatedToast77 those are moves that the ice climbers can use to do the sakurai angle, not moves that fox can use against them. Icies hit hard so the only move they can use that does less than 32KB is ice block.

AbatedToast77 I’d refer you to the comment above, but also add if you’ve seen the Hax Nintendude set from Pound you know you sure as heck don’t need to laser camp the ICs lol

Sakurai continues to spit on the players who take this level of time and dedication to study the game by not sponsoring Melee tournaments and removing all these subtle mechanics from the sequels.

@@nahor88 or he just wants to eliminate any mechanics that may seem overly complicated and may intimidate new players. And wants to support tournaments for his most recent game instead of one made 19 years ago

@@jackawaka Except that none of those mechanics are REQUIRED to play Melee... you can play Melee like the party game it's meant to be, or as a competitive game. That's what really makes it so great, which Sakurai completely missed. Maybe he should focus on creating decent online play instead of nerfing gameplay mechanics? How is it the Melee community has devised a tenable netplay system with little to no budget and a multi-million dollar company like Nintendo hasn't....

@@nahor88 It's completely understandable that a multi million dollar company don't spend time working on a game that now has sequels which have a much larger and less niche fanbase. Yes its an excellent game but they are a company, its not a case of whether they can its a case of would it be worth it to them.

​@@jackawaka Except that those "fanbases" dissolve awfully quickly. A LOT of people have already quit playing Ultimate cuz the netplay sucks ass. Many of those players are switching to Melee, which as I stated, now has reliable netplay. It really wouldn't require many resources or much time at all to do an HD remake of Melee with netplay, if unpaid fans working on it during free time can do it. Anyone that's in game design or programming would tell you that.

There's none for Marth either, I guess he must suck too right?

@@DeathMetal179 (It was a joke)

@@DeathMetal179 Unless I'm very wrong, C.Falcon does have some accessible 361 options at 0 like Bair and late Uair, alongside some other options like Ftilt and dash attack, so either it's a joke or it's implying you should instead rely on dair spam which sends down and some fast grabs in neutral to get out of asdi down range. I suspect it's the former. By the same token though Marth should have Fair and Bair among others available, so maybe there's just something I'm missing.

@@DonPiantissimo maybe coz 0 is less lenient than 5-10, although i don't see 0 being much worse than single-digit percent. factoring invincibility? nah

@@DonPiantissimo Falcon bair, even weak hit, isn't 361, and I don't think Falcon upair is, even late. I believe late Falcon uair is horizontal

This video doesn't have meme music or calling out commenters for no reason (Plus no insane explanations that lack self awareness) Honestly "Watch for rolling rocks in 0.5 A presses" is such a fonominal video. If anyone were to try to recreate something like that it would come off as fake, that video is so good BECAUSE its not self-aware of how rediculous the whole situation is! In other words it was a true "meme" in all sense of the word, a moment of time that just so happened to be uncovered on a viral scale! (inb4 this turns into a copypasta or some crap like that...)

yeah, its pretty simple in that example but i think its good to show off the idea your expressing. +3 on shield bare minimum vs potentially negative on hit bare minimum

Why would you care about this stuff if u havent even started playing, there is aloooot of other stuff that is more fundamental

@@skiq2520 Well I was a bit misleading with my wording because I already thought that comment was long enough :p I have dabbled with the game and taken the time to learn movement and go to a couple of locals, but I have been pretty on and off and never stuck with it enough to even be a familiar face at those locals. Of course I don't expect to win and there are plenty of people outplaying me and I'm losing more much than I'm winning (counting in friendlies as well) which i don't have a problem with! The main thing that really has bummed me out a majority of the time is that a lot of my losses in bracket (which is maybe only like 4/5 of 10 but still) have been with getting cc- wobbled or cc-dsmash from peach or samus over and over again until the set is over. I ask them what I can possibly do about this tactic, since I clearly had zero counterplay and it was a no brainer for them to do when they see that it's going to work every time. Literally everyone said "you just gotta grab" or some variation and I was just frustrated by this because it really wasn't the answer I was looking for. As you can imagine by now I was very often using early aerial attacks and this was their answer but I didn't realize that was the issue for a long time and learning the other options of hitting late, crossing-up, tomahawk, fading back, etc were never discussed or even just something along the lines of not being so telegraphed with my jumping. I'm not trying to blame other players here but it just seems like there are many instances like this where players know proper mixups and they perform them as well but don't understand why they do them. So when I hear this answer of "just grab" it made me think "why is everyone jumping when the opponent is at low percent still?" Like I would only get one answer, that isnt wrong, but by only having one option im being told about I think you can see why stuff like this is discouraging. Melee has many things that aren't as intuitive as other fighters that something like an in-game tutorial will tell you. Like an example of grabbing or sweeping will break an opponent's armored move, is easy to understand and utilize immediately so it's easier to find answers. It is beautiful that there are so many options and answers all the time in melee for most scenarios but I feel like explanations of options and why they work are quite rare unfortunately. Videos like these give me a lot of hope as it makes the game a lot more accessible without taking away integrity from the game and really makes me want to give this game another shot with more things to try out.

@@wannabetree1912 yeah people are different in the ways they learn and express, in my experience locals are a mix of different types of people and you ultimately have to lay the puzzle down yourself, preferably by asking simple questions to yourself, if you lost to these players by getting ccd over and over then they probably have other mixups that they didnt have to use to beat you, so just break it down into steps of improvement and get specific with improvement, remove glaring weaknesses and work on tools and be aware of your own process

@@wannabetree1912 some people like talking about melee and some people dont, im personally known as one of the least "strategical" players while still being good in my city. Find likeminded people and have fun with it

Mango doesn’t know any of this stuff and he’s still a top player lol. So it’s not necessary to be good

*bomkers

What did he figure out in this video?

BRUH

You could hold the stick up when you plug it in, making it act like it's held down when you put it back to neutral.

@@ethanb12007 200 iq

Claw grip

@@ethanb12007 Biggest Brain

How was a game so complex developed so quickly? HAL labs hires wizards

Yes

It's the New York way to say it

Yeah, but more gangster

It's the same action but I think Hax distinguished a difference because of the different intent. A driveby nair is essentially a cross-up nair, intended to get behind the opponent. An overshoot nair is intended to catch people moving backwards It's just semantics. They are basically the same thing.

Actually, no. To "overshoot" an aerial is to account for an enemy's backwards movement aka chasing down a back dash or wavedash back. When he says drive-by he means cross up. By landing on the opposite side of captain falcon, not only does he make it more difficult to punish, but falcon also has to waste frames turning around.

I've found you can use the thumb joint to hold down the c stick. Then you can more quickly move the tip of your thumb to the button cluster, allowing quick action. I do have abnormally large hands though (to the point where the gamecube controller is a bit too small for me)

Joe Schmoe if you tech in place is it possible to whiff punish the upsmash?

@@hgt_sr7034 yeah you can fuckin grab it if you time it properly, it's sick

Wizzy uses SO many techs that most people don't even know about. Like he's the only top player I know who regularly uses V-Canceling, a technique discovered in 2015 (it might have been later) and was quickly dismissed as "not being that useful" yet I remember at least 1 game where it saved his life and helped him win the set! Melee is "sick" indeed! :P

Wizzy is ahead of his time

@Base Bass Forte has to do with a certain animation and pressing your L or R button for example with falcon wizzy and I've seen S2J do it, do a high up-b before they land on stage to get into that specific fall animation and right before you get hit you press one of those buttons with good di of course, it takes off I believe 5 or 10% of the hit?