I was worried about the absence of Lord of the Nazguls. Hahahaha. I am really hoping to actually do something with that one.

I feel like you super underestimated especially Green's ability to Tempt You. Dunedain Rangers are fucking insane with Galadriel, and, in fact, go true infinite with Smeagol, Helpful Guide plus something that creates a creature token on a landfall trigger (Scute Swarm and Zendikar's Roil immediately come to mind) and a free sac outlet (Viscera Seer, Carrion Feeder, Ashnod's Altar, etc) to mill your opponent's entire decks and get functionally infinite landfall and The Ring Tempts You triggers.

But then you'd mess up their counts by having them both trigger for the same creature dying They're meant to be competing with each other for more kills.

@@violeth2255I think people want them as partners more because of the story and not about the abilities

Im building one of these decks. Any good cheap suggestions ?

They should start sprinkling "partner" on a couple of legends in each set.

Me and my friends give them “fellowship” allowing them to partner with other members

Watching these lotr set coverages + watching the warhammer coverage when it was coming around really just baffles me; how do these magic nerds not have ANY overlap with the other nerdy IPs? I'm not hugely upset, its just that I've seen 4 or more different channels covering them and not a single one of them ever gets it right, I'm simply confused as to how their job is essentially MtG, which is sold in the same place as all the other nerd stuff, and they don't know it at all!

@@eewweeppkk Because their job is not saying names.

@@DieJG Its strange to me you'd comment that, as that really has nothing to do with my original point, and their jobs are actually much closer to "saying names" than the vast majority of other people on the planet. Literally every video Mitch specifically names every single card included in the video. His job is, in fact, to say names.

My favorite was Bill Friendly, Bree Swindler 😂

@@eewweeppkk His job is to theorycraft and share decks with us, and give his opinions on new cards. Nitpicking on the fact he pronounces some cards' names wrong seems like something childish and stupid.

Pourquoi ? Tu le voit monter comment le deck autour ?

Reanimating shell with control elements

100% agree. He is definitely in contention for strongest commander from the set.

Yeah I just decided to buy his precon cause of this

​@@Typher_wrong Sauron. The precon one is Lord of the Rings.

I was about to say this. They're predominantly "Best in the 99" over being Commander

I don't know where Haldir is, maybe he's unrankable

From the Hobbit? Hell yea, I want some good Smaug cards for dragon tribal. Or even do a set with prequel character from that new Amazon show.

@@brandonberger89 that would be sick they have so many possibilities tbh

Legendary 20 20 Smaug would be lit but you have to sacrifice 10 treasures to cast him

​@@brandonberger89for now you can use there and back again to get a decent Smaug who makes 14 treasures when he dies

Thank you!

Yea no Rosie is an absolute A-tier minimum, like how many ways can you use White to either make a ton of tokens or double the number of tokens you make? Like just build a massive army of Token creatures and put counters on everything you want to keep and just swing.

Came here to say that !

Thanks!

And you still have mana to make people uncomfortable 😂 I personally think that Balrog, Durin's Bane should be S tier because of how easy it is to cast him, easy to reduce his cost, how he protects himself and even when dying, he takes something with him. It's just beautiful.

@@theGODofHellhounds So a funny story, I had recently built a commander deck around This Balrog, and let me tell you (Granted there was a group hugs player in this game) Cavern-Hoard Dragon in play and I just drew into a Mycosynth Lattice, right after the hugs player dropped a Tempt with Vengeance X = 9 (Everyone took the offer) So I played the Lattice, attacked the hugs player with the Dragon (Got 55 treasure) and if anyone decided to kill my commander, I could just blow up ANYTHING on the board due to Lattice being in play I used the 55 treasure to drop a Torment of Hailfire for 53 mana (It was turn 4)

That's a commander from the precons actually, it will be in the other video! Great commander though!

Neither Gwaihir, greatest of the eagles

i built a deck around this Saruman, budgeted under $100 (excluding Saruman), its also the first Commander deck ive built from scratch so its probably not very well constructed. I focused on card draw, mills and interrupts. If your able to cast something like Cut Your Loses or a Kicked Maddening Cacophony and have half your opponent's library to work with, it was a lot of fun. Ive been blown out of games early, or just screwed my opponent out of their strat cause i milled it so early. Either way its a lot of fun

@@goldmamba49 can you share the decklist? I would like to see it D

Couldn’t agree more I feel like most of the legendary creatures are just normal creatures made legendary because they’re characters from a book series, so although they work great to support other commanders or decks they aren’t good commanders in and of themselves

He goes great in a Magda deck, but sounds like you want him as your commander...

@@philipcoburn7599 yeah, i want him as my commander, he is my favorite caracter from lotr

No. He must be in the graveyard for this ability to be activated.

Yes, but they still control the equipment. So they can just re-equip it to their creature on their turn.

Thank you!

How are you running green or Mirkwood bats with Rosie as the commander? Because that's what the video is evaluating: the legendary creatures' power levels as commanders.

Orrrr do I include cards like shimmering Groto or fellwar stone to generate that off mana

Cards have 2 types of colour: colour identity and color. Colour IDENTITY is any colour that exists in a card's rules text, while colour is simply the colour of the card. Take Najeela for example, she's a red card, but her colour identity is all 5 colours. Commanders take ALL colours on the card into account. Frodo, Sauron's Bane isn' a white commander, he's Orzhov.

Unfortunately, the set is not standard legal

Unfortunately, the ranking is commander potential + the set is not standard legal

It also lets you respond to your opponents searching their decks or drawing cards by casting, oh, I dunno, Cut Your Losses

Guess that depends on how mean you wanna be, though.

He said in this video. Already had 85 Commander to go over which is more than a normal set already. Before the 36 from the boxes

Sadly not. Both of them are replacement effects and can only trigger once in an event of one or more tokens being generated, basically to prevent them from being infinite with almost any card. Make 3 tokens, you make that many plus one squirrel. Peregrin sees this event of these 4 tokens entering which from the game's perspective was just one event, not two separate ones and makes those 4 plus a food. Or whichever way round you wanna resolve it (end result is the same unless you had something else) but Chatterfang won't then trigger off of the food because Chatterfang has already triggered on this event of token generation and Peregrin won't trigger off of the extra squirrel token because that squirrel token is part of the same event. Same reason why Peregrin/Chatterfang doesn't go infinite with Academy Manufacturer bs or why Academy Manufacturer doesn't go infinite with a copy of itself. Extra value but not infinite.

With the right build I believe he can be at least a B tier. I'm a little biased because I already built the deck. All I want is to sacrifice, get lands, then cast big creatures based on those lands. He's a sleeper for sure

@@stormer5519 with the right deck he's A tier imo. He's B at least. He goes easily infinite with dunedain rangers, milling your enemies to death. Liquidmetal coating and splinter to remove all basic lands for faster milling. Before the enemies get the deck theme you could also bait them with cards like collective voyage. But this is more risky and might only work once. The major downside might be that ppl target you as you can go infinite quiet easily and fast And getting tempted frequently isn't that hard. So he's a ramping beast

@@dasraupi2679 I can see how that would work. All you would need is Illicit Shipment to sac any ring bearer you might have to search for splinter and liquid metal. Then you just cast this and go to end step. The only thing stopping it at that point is a destroy target creature. it would only kill one player tho wouldn't it?

@@stormer5519 Liquid metal and splinter can remove any kind of basic land from the enemies library. If you play against mono red for example you cast liquidmetal on his mountain and exile all mountains in his library with splinter The other combo is a bit weaker than I thought. You need a token generator like Scute swarm, something to sacrifice, Gollum and Dunedain Rangers. Then it goes like this: Play a land > get a token > make it the ring bearer with dunedain > Gollum trigger > respond and sacrifice the ring bearer. Gollum will give you a land and trigger everything again. You can cycle through the enemies until 1 dies which will end the combo. In your end step Gollum will trigger again, you can sacrifice the ring bearer in response and the combo goes off again. So you can take out at least 2 people. You also got the value from sacrificing. E.g 60 mana from ashnods or whatever you used to sacrifice and you could play cultivate or Tatyova for another land drop to trigger the combo 3 times in a round, milling 3 people. It's a 4 card combo instead of a 2 card combo so it's not as strong as I thought but still not bad

@@dasraupi2679 yea but you’d only be able to exile one type of land from one opponent. It would be unfortunate if there was a mono color deck but it would make the mill more deadly for sure. But you’d still have basically a 4 card combo because you’d have to find a way to make the ring tempt you anyway

That's from the precons.

Rosie is mono-white, you can't play Scurry Oak if she's the commander. This combo is relevant in modern, but in Commander only if they're both in the 99.

Or merry and pippen. The fact that neither pair are partners is criminal

The partner Sam and Frodo are from the precons. This video is for the main set.

The û is pronounced like the double "o" in "cool." So close, but not quite on the latter pronunciation. It'd be Man Hoor.

That's from the precons.

That's from the precons.

That's from the precons. He said at the start that this video is for the main set.

He says at the beginning that he isn't including legendary creatures from the precons in this video.

...so? He was Native American in the original animated film adaptation. Dude is a descendant of the Numenoreans. He has an excuse to be a visibly different race from the rest of the Middle Earth humans.