Good idea! There is no meaning behind sacrifcing something you don't care about

that's the thing that i dont understand if you think that the binding vow is a thing that you think its equal price . if u make a binding vow of any form its obvious that u think that the thing y you lost is not as important as the x thing you gain.Then the x thing would never happen because would need more of the y thing to be "equal" to the y thing. if you have all the power of the universe and want to be a ant in another universe , be a ant in another universe is impossible cause a universe FOR YOU its not as valuable as being a ant in another universe. FOR MAHITO its not as valuable to lost temporarily his ct as to have a 200% amp at his body in that moment.

Since Gege is a huge fan of HxH, I can see he got his inspirations from how Nen works and incorporates it into JJK. The more you are willing to trade leads to a stronger outcome.

​@@aureliontroll2341 well no its all relative, its not like you giving it higher value in that moment changes what you see as a fair trade. For you a shirt might be fair trade for idk 20$, it doesnt mean that you are going to buy it when you have too much shirts. So in a moment of trading you only use value that you would generally do, otherwise it would end up the same as the arrow never reaching the target paradox.

Technically, you most likely could, but with how powerful a black flash is you'd have to give up something immense. Gojo probably could do it if he gave up all other techniques he has

It might be a binding vow the mother makes during pregnancy, losing the ability to give their child cursed technique and cursed energy in exchange for making their physical body stronger, this doesnt explain why Maki was able to strengthen her heavenly restriction by having her soul become complete tho

It could also just superstition. Its what jujustu sorcs tell younger sorcs. And because jujustu is based on what we fear and belive: it becomes its own self fulfilling prophecy.

​@@MUIDYLANICEif that's the case, why would someone in the Zen'in clan given birth to a guy like Toji when the only thing they value is strong CTs, also the reason Maki got stronger after Mai died is becouse jujutsu recognises twins as one being, so while Maki had Tojis HR (no CE in exchange for a strong body) it was weaker cause of Mai who had CE, when her sister died she took her CE with her which caused Makis HR to be fully fulfilled

@@Homieck 1: "might", pretty interesting word huh? 2: Yeah, I know, thats why I mentioned her sould becoming fully formed because the soul is what determines cursed technique cursed energy and the physical body, that's the whole fucking reason Mahito's technique is able to do the things it does and why the reincarnated sorcerers can keep their techniques.

@@MUIDYLANICEwell mechamaru was the result of a heavenly restriction too but your point still stands. Binding vows in the womb could make sense.

I like your way of thinking. Now I want to see what the absolute limits are to what you can get out of a binding vow

Little thought: Since binding vows on techniques work with equal take and give, Yuji could've had a heavenly pact on him which takes his technique in exchange for being blessed by the black flash, resistance to poisons(the only counter to most rct users), immense raw physical strength, etc? Yuji might've been supposed to have been born with the one of the most powerful techniques in history (maybe better than limitless+six eyes) and in exchange for that technique he gets all these insane buffs in return

@@aditi002jens7 the resistance of poison is because of sukuna

@@aditi002jens7 physical buffs are because kenjaku was curse and still gave birth to him...meaning Yuji was born by two human+1 curse so he has boosted physical attributes probably just like choso and other curse womb(not as much as Yuji thugh)

@@FallenAshura ik ik but those physical buff could be from a heavenly pact which only takes the technique

I agree! It probably is exactly what you say. Like how Megumi figured out that he can control all shadows or how Sukuna figured out how to expand the range of what he can target with his slashes. It probably all ties back into the cursed realm too. Hoping for a lore deep dive on that in the coming chapters.

This might be a stretch but I believe this to be hinted at by Sukuna (I think it was Sukuna but don't quote me on that, my memory is under Heavenly Restriction) later on as well, when he says you need a certain philosophy to be a successful sorcerer, i.e. some worldview that defines you and your ability in the world at large.

I'd say it's just a bit more nuanced than that. You can't avoid all the rules that apply to everyone (except for the special case of Physically Gifted Heavenly Restriction which specifically consists in breaking free from those rules and even fate itself), but your will, determination, personal expression and interpretation will allow you to bend some of the rules of nature and jujutsu in order for you to reach the desired outcome and power (it shows mainly through CTs - best examples being Soul Transfiguration, Limitless and Reality Cleave - but also regarding basic techniques "accessible" to all on paper: Black Flash, barrier techniques, RCT, etc.). In my opinion, Kenjaku's statement on the soul being the body and the body the soul, is a general law that only a handful of characters can bypass through the personal expression of their will and CT (Mahito's complete disregard and nihilist desecration of everything humans attribute value to; Nobara's straightforwardness and raw, unapologetic nature amplified by Black Flash; Sukuna's complete dominance over the story and power system...) Regarding Toji, once he was incarnated through the use of his remains, the "empty" body he was granted after leaving it all behind allowed him to negate the grip and limitations the world and jujutsu imposes on everyone, and evolve freely and unhindered by the wills, curses and expectations of others - Toji and Maki embody the Buddhist concept of 'sunyata' ("emptiness"): they've escaped from the cycle of cursed energy, as someone escapes from the cycle of deaths and rebirths once they became enlightened reaching true emptiness by breaking free from their past desires, attachments and suffering; they don't have a will of their own allowing for personal expression and interpretation, they simply *are* (akin to a Boddhistava, they are both perfectly in tune with the natural flow of the world yet untouched by dukkha and the impurity of cursed energy). It's relevant with the post-modernist themes and unreliable/subjectivist narration of JJK: all 3 main antagonists (Mahito, Kenjaku, and particularly Sukuna whose will literally bends the narrative on a meta level) seem to agree upon the fact there is no inherent truth or sacred meaning in this world, with Mahito's spiritual and concrete reification of the soul, Kenjaku who strives to go beyond cursed energy and transcend the limited possibilities this world offer, and Sukuna who's an almost textbook example of the Nietzschean Superman (possessing the most overwhelming individualism in the series which allows him to shape his and others' destiny through his nihilistic will to power and make the whole narrative, characters and power-ups revolve around his personal expression and interpretation structured by his sense of self and exaltation of strength - an evil Buddha of sorts)

⁠​⁠@@mattb.7079 Isn’t it a necessary quality for a Boddhistava to refuse enlightenment for themselves/use their enlightenment (I don’t remember) to help others achieve enlightenment?

@@wildfire9280 you're right. Not everything applies perfectly in JJK, there's always a dark twist regarding the religious inspirations (in this case, Bodily Gifted Heavenly Restriction is sunyata, and Maki's progress is basically her realizing the three marks of existence, but Toji and Maki as characters are more akin to the concept of "hungry ghosts" imo). Although, iirc a Bodhisattva still retains the qualities of an enlightened being but just refuses liberation from samsara - even though, it's more fitting to apply the term Bodhisattva to Gojo, Tengen or even Sukuna (he's like an evil Bodhisattva, refusing to die even though he became such a supreme being that he transcended from his human condition)

Agreed! The crazy impressive part about Kokichi was that he gained an able body while still having the powers of his heavenly restriction since he could still puppeteer from a long distance even after dying.

@@ShinyNumber1 yeah I think that’s evidence that since heavenly restrictions are near impossible to break from what we’ve seen, if you find a way to do it there isn’t really any punishment for doing so

Yup jjk just stole the entire nen power system. And all these normies are praising jjk as the best lmaoooo

the "explaining your power binding vow" is also the same as "risk" in hxh

LOL I stg he always does that

😭😭

Bro do you want her to just explode 😭

​@sanicboi9187 actually kenjaku, the foremost expert on binding vows, said that a binding vow made with oneself and 2 people are completely different. The worst that can happen if you break a binding vow is losing what you gained. So miwa would just be back to normal.

I think her arm might break or fall off.

@lordyoda607 there is no downside to breaking a binding vow on oneself other than losing what was gained. This is stated by kenjaku right before mahito healed mechamaru. I'll trust kenjaku wby?

Could be why he had that cut on his finger after the fight with Yuji and Maki. I don't subscribe to the theory that it was Yuji unintentionally using Sukunas technique or that the executioner sword nicked him.

I’m referring to enchain

@@Screcythey made the binding bow episode 1 or 2 when sukuna regrew yuji’s heart.

I don't understand what you mean. Sukuna doesn't have a binding vow with Yuji that includes not harming people.

​@@ShinyNumber1 He wanted to make the vow with Yuji to revive him and in exchange he could take control over the body with a phrase on the condition of not harming anyone while in control. Yuji refused. Then Sukuna proposed to do the vow without any of the "not harming" conditions, if he wins the fight against Yuji. In my opinion in the panel Sukuna was saying it's a gamble to try and "harm" people because he wasn't sure if the vow worked 100% since he technically tricked Yuji into an unfair deal. But this confirmed it. If you make a binding vow with someone, it doesn't matter if it's fair or not, as long as both parties agree to it. (Edit: I checked the manga and what I say is apparently an anime translation. Could be an error or both versions are viable translations because it's a vague phrase? No clue, someone that can translate japanese should look into it)

YOOOOO I remember reading that in the volume extras but I completely forgot about it when writing the script. Great example of a self imposed binding vow, thanks for the reminder!!

You're so right! I completely forgot about Mei Mei being able to do that. In the video I said that you can't force someone into a binding vow, but that should be with the asterisk that if your technique allows for you to fully manipulate your opponent that it then does become possible.

@@ShinyNumber1doesn’t mei mei say something along the lines of the crows being ready to die for her. Do we ever hear that she FORCES them to kamikaze?

Yes, but if it doesn't land a black flash or the black flash doesn't kill the opponent, you're screwed. That'a equivalent exchange.

Thank you! You bring some really good ideas to the table regarding Heavenly Restriction. I think I saw something similar on twitter at a point but not in this detail and well thought out. Impressive As for Miwa you might be right, but for me it's too unclear to say for sure. I think that we'll definitely get more info on it though as binding vows have been getting more and more incorparated into the story. I wasn't sure if I should include it in the video but the chants, hand signs & rituals being able to boost the power of your technique could in a way be considered the real "standard" way to use jujutsu. Meaning that not using it while using CTs would be considered a binding vow where the result is that you get to use your technique earlier but your technique loses efficiency and power etc.

Very valid question! Personally I think that it depends on what Miwa herself considers to be breaking the vow. Similar to how Sukuna was able to outsmart Yuji with enchain because Yuji didn't consider harming himself as part of the deal. But maybe wielding a european style sword like a small broadsword could still be an option

"curse" energy, so having no curse on ones body probably removes all restrictions to it, making a person utilize their whole physical capabilities.

Thank you! Yeah, I started off with just a little script and realized that it kept going deeper and deeper. It’s why I like this power system so much

Awesome, thank you!! Glad you enjoyed it!

I agree, it’s really interesting because you see frequently in the story how characters can use impromptu binding vows to achieve better results. Like when todo focused all of his curse energy in one spot to block a black flash and that exchange between focusing defense in one area and nowhere else allowed him to survive. It seems like sorcerers can rapidly strengthen themselves or abilities if they learn how to maximize the benefits to a binding vow, think mei mei and bird strike or sukuna and domain expansion. The story continually shows that the stronger sorcerers can establish binding vows in the midst of battle for impressive returns.

Agreed! It’s all in how you use it of course. You could be smart with it like Sukuna or make an incredibly dumb one like Miwa 😔

Got a little caught up with school but I’m writing the next one right now, hopefully next Wednesday

That would be sick

Tysm!

Fair enough, valid criticism

Oh yeah when you put it like that… you’re cooking 🔥🔥

Thank you, glad you think so!

TRUEEEEE!!!!! Very excited to see how that plays out 😁

I'm starting to think so too yeah! As in chants/rituals are the normal way to use techniques but you can make a binding vow to sacrifice power and efficiency for way quicker casting speeds

Even things like Domain Amplification seem to operate on the same core principles. You gain its benefits at the cost of being unable to simultaneously use your curse technique. Which makes me curious if someone without an innate technique can use domain amplification. And if so, what's the exchange? Is it weaker than amplification that gives up a technique? Do you lose something different while using it?

You are 100% correct regarding domains

Makes me wonder if megumi being inhabited by sukuna would make him realize he could utilize a binding vow the same way sukuna does to have a barrier-less domain

At roughly 3 minutes, he also doesn't include physics as an option for binding vows. Either it's you, or it's a god. Forgetting that something like gravity exists in real life. Guys there's 2 options of what's going on here. Either we are staying on the planet, because we believe that it is reasonable, *or* we are staying on the planet because some entity is keeping us here. It might also be that we have a sense for how far we can move away from the planet. When we think of jumping, we just know if it is a reasonable distance away from the planet.

Personally I do think that he swallowed that many, or at the very least a large bulk. Geto hated swallowing them and said it tasted like vomit rags or something like that. But every time Kenjaku is shown swallowing cursed spirits he does it with a smile. Dude is genuinely sick and twisted. It doesnt surprise me that he could've swallowed that many in the 10 months leading up to Shibuya. Also it might be that he only swallowed the ones where the binding vows were unfavorable for him. Comparing to the humans, some of them just joined the game for their own interests (like Kashimo/Ishigoori etc.) while other players needed incentives (like Hazenoki or the girl from ch239). It might be the same for spirits where some joined on their own accord while others made a painstaking deal with Kenjaku which he was able to void by controlling them.

I would like to propose an alternate explanation. I think the vow for the sorcerers and spirits were the same. To incarnate them into a flesh body. The cursed spirits that made the deal with kenny were trying to transcend. Either kenny didn't want to do this or he had a finite amount of vessels, so he only incarnated sorcerers while using CSM to subjugate the cursed spirits until the culling games.

When kenjaku, enters a new body the binding vow made with the past body becomes null, I assume this goes to the body and soul being the same thing and since he switches body’s he also switches souls

@seyihall5411 you realize that's speculation, right? It seems none of his vows with sorcerers were nulled, and the only reason we think we know anything about how binding vows and body swapping work in this series is one throw away line that we dont know the full connotation of.

I like your ideas in the second paragraph! I think you could very well be spot on. We’ll have to wait and see, but I do hope that it is eventually revealed

It's from the Blu-Ray Disk version of Season 2 Episode 7! When Kokichi Muta uses ultimate mechamaru to fire a bunch of lasers at Mahito and he shapeshifts into different animals to dodge The TV release had a bunch of scenes in that episode blurred, dimmed and very rough looking but in the Blu-Ray release they fixed a bunch of those problems :)

Oof I’m so sorry if the spoiler warning wasn’t clear enough. So to answer your question bluntly, it wasn’t exactly explained properly in the manga either. My interpretation of that sequence is as follows. In the JJK0 movie, Yuta makes a binding vow with Rika. But afterwards Rika denies the “payment” and instead ends the vow on her own accord. From that we can determine that other cursed spirits should be able to do the same. Thus fake Geto used the cursed spirit manipulation technique to manipulate spirits into willingly ending the vows that he made with them. Hope that answers your question 🫡😁

​@@ShinyNumber1 Hey thank you so much for responding!! Your spoiler warning was perfect I stopped 10 seconds into the vid and came into the comments to look for answers :). 2. thank you so much this makes a LOT more since in my head now. So if I'm getting you correctly he forced cursed sprits he made vows with in the past to break the vows while voiding the need for Fake Geto to give them payment while collecting his payment? Meaning that with the Rika example, Fake Geto gets the massive pool of cursed energy but forces the cursed sprits, through CSM, to "give it on the house" if you will? I'm only confused on how he came to control those cursed sprits through CSM. during the night parade Getos stock of curses is completely drained in his fight with Yuta meaning Fake Getos inventory was empty when he got the body. Is there an explanation to how he managed to get, according to the anime "10 million cured sprits (released on Tokyo)" in the year between the events did Fake Geto go and fight those cursed sprits to tame them or was part of the past contracts something like "if I get CSM you become mine"? in my mind the shear volume of curses he unleased, given the time frame, just does not make sense even if Fake Geto LOVED swallowing curses. Normal Geto had a cult and only managed to scrape 10k together over the course of a few years. Again huge thanks you have already cleared up a lot for me, any non spoiler explanations for these questions would be greatly appreciated!

you'd have to give up something major to gain a cursed technique, such as your life. perhaps all people with cursed techniques are just reborn people who made that pact in one of their past lives, cursing at the world for their weakness?

Maybe not intentional binding vows, but he did switch the conditions of his domain barrier to harden the outside, which counts as an unintentional binding vow since he gives up something for another.

​@@ShinyNumber1 Is it possible that Gojo uses a binding vow and set his infinity off for some time to get more CE output and put more damage on sukuna.

Possibly yeah, but I doubt it’d make much of a difference since the six eyes already make infinity use very little energy

I’d say the enchantments that he used at the end are a binding vow

This is a very ignorant statement evwrytimw gojo changed the condition of his barrier it was a binding vow. kusakabe literally explained it, in order to change conditions of the domain you need to make a binding vow, which takes time, which is the reason everyone was impressed when gojo changed condition of the fly. pls read the manga before you open your mouth

Hope you didn’t get spoiled on anything too serious 🙏

@@ShinyNumber1 I didn't watch

My goat 🫡❤️

i personally wouldn’t say that he broke it i think its more like mahito made his body adapt to it in some way