THE NAVAL GUN AT IWO JIMA CONFIDENTIAL U.S. NAVY FILM 26464

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Produced in 1945 by Jam Handy, "The Naval Gun At Iwo Jima" is a sister film to "The Naval Gun at Okinawa". This film details the important role Navy guns played in assaulting Japanese forces that were dug into caves on the island. It also shows the close support of Marines during the long assault. Naval gunfire at Iwo Jima was critical, the film explains, due to the fact that low visibility limited air operations. The film details the role played by battleships, cruisers, destroyers, destroyer escorts, and auxiliary gunboats. Shows tactics employed in exposing Japanese defenses, for example how gunboats were used to draw fire from Japanese gun batteries, exposing them so that the 16-inch guns on the battleships could used to destroy the shore positions.
At 4:22, U.S. Navy Underwater Demolition Teams or UDTs are seen deploying into the waters off Iwo Jima, so that they can locate and destroy enemy mines obstructing the beaches. At 5:42, the swimmers are retrieved from their reconnaissance operations.
At 6:44, the plan of attack against enemy block houses and gun emplacements at D-Day minus one is shown, with USS Idaho taking the right flank and USS Tennessee hitting the left flank of Mt. Suribachi. USS New York and USS Nevada (salvaged at Pearl Harbor) bombarded the beach landing areas for 12 hours. This set up the landing of February 19th, which is shown at 8:40. Gunfire at this point supported the landings and was backed up by air strikes. Assault waves were preceded by gunboats firing rockets (9:00) onto the beach. At 9:48, the attack plan at 15 minutes before H-hour is shown, with intense fire being laid down onto the beach ahead of the Marines. At 10:55, shots of enemy defenses that were destroyed during the landing are seen, including casemates, block houses, anti-aircraft guns, etc. According to the narrator, almost of these could only have been destroyed by naval gunfire.
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@dancasey9660
@dancasey9660 7 жыл бұрын
My father was at Iwo Jima. One story I got out of him was that while the flag went up on Mt Surabachi, the Japanese troops by the air fields got so pissed they immediately counter attacked. So while everyone was cheering and the ships where blowing their horns in the ocean, my Dad's regiment was fighting for their lifes. My Dad lasted a couple of weeks before taking a grazing shot off his head. He was machine gunning from a position and the bullet ringed inside his helmet and around his head. It knocked him cold and bloodied him up, but they got him to the hospital ship where he recovered.
@wildntheyoung7814
@wildntheyoung7814 5 жыл бұрын
Dan Casey your dad was a true American bad ass and I’m sure you were proud
@ME-kc8hn
@ME-kc8hn Жыл бұрын
My father was there and he told me a story of a soldier who had this occur to him. It may have been your father
@dancasey9660
@dancasey9660 Жыл бұрын
Maybe, 4th Marine Division was down near the airfields.
@ME-kc8hn
@ME-kc8hn Жыл бұрын
@@dancasey9660 1944-1946, 0311, I Co, 3rd Bn, 24th Marine Regiment (3/24), 4th Marine Division
@dancasey9660
@dancasey9660 Жыл бұрын
@@ME-kc8hn Have to look up his company. Told us also that a guy from his company got separated, ended up winning the medal of Honor with a different group.
@waldopepper1
@waldopepper1 3 жыл бұрын
My dad was on a minesweep that passed right along the beach. Much respect to all the Navy Sailors and tough as nails for breakfast Marines that fought in this battle!
@Brvnkaerv
@Brvnkaerv Жыл бұрын
Please remember that the U.S. Coast Guard was there also. My father was a deck officer onboard the USCG cutter Roger B. Taney during this battle.
@johncox2284
@johncox2284 6 ай бұрын
Coast Guardsmen were running the landing craft as well as manning Navy ships. The Coast Guard also had a temporary LORAN station on Kangoku Rock just off the West beach on Iwo. The allied aircraft and ships were using it to navigate as well as the Japanese Imperial Navy. Our XO Out on Iwo when I was there was a young ET on the LORSAN station during the invasion he had a ring side seat for one of the bloodiest battles of WWII.
@binko969
@binko969 4 жыл бұрын
The rocket salvo fired @ 9:15 is some great footage. Seen them fired so many times but have never seen a barrage land. The cameraman captured the rockets launching standing behind them on deck with the beach in the background then a few seconds later you can see the entire salvo landing on the beach with no break in between launch & landing. Great post
@johnbookjans5884
@johnbookjans5884 Жыл бұрын
that stood out for me too, I even said "wow" out loud cause it was so unique. I shuttered a bit at the destructive force and loss of life.
@Indylimburg
@Indylimburg Жыл бұрын
Thought the same thing. At Omaha they were fired too far out and fell in the surf, only killing a bunch of fish.
@painmt651
@painmt651 Жыл бұрын
Thanks I’ll be watching out for it!
@MScotty90
@MScotty90 Жыл бұрын
Really puts the phrase "area denial" into perspective.
@zoila605
@zoila605 5 жыл бұрын
My dad was on the u.s.s. Iowa was a scared teenager from small town Neb. I wish that lives on both sides could have spared, but my father and our country did what to be done. As a former army captian I salute all service personal in WW II
@davidweston6653
@davidweston6653 3 жыл бұрын
Tks for you and your fathers service 👍
@painstruck01
@painstruck01 Жыл бұрын
apparently FDR let out an audible gasp when given the day 1 casualty figures. Unsurprising when you consider they were comparable to the entire Guadalcanal campaign...
@Kayaz48
@Kayaz48 Жыл бұрын
I agree. It was horrific. Yet they served anyway. It wrecked my Dad though he had a successful military career.
@milt6208
@milt6208 Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing the Iowa and Wisconsin at the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard when my ship went there for engine repairs. As a Tin Can Sailor I too salute all American Serviceman and Woman who fought in WWII.
@milt6208
@milt6208 Жыл бұрын
@@painstruck01 More Sailors lost their live at Guadalcanal than Marines. And Okinawa was much worse than Guadalcanal and Iwo Jima put together. I like to think Harry Truman who was an artillery officer in WWI and saw the carnage of the front lines there did the right thing dropping the bomb to stop WWII.
@michaelnaue7363
@michaelnaue7363 Жыл бұрын
One of my cousins was there. A marine explosive expert. Wounded twice. He was sent home after that. Then spent 25 years in air force. He said he saw a lot of death. And things that are in your mind every night. That man new a lot about war. He was a Christian. I loved this man. God bless all these men.
@louiscypher7090
@louiscypher7090 7 жыл бұрын
I wasn't aware of the outer rings of defense for the gun ships, very cool. Thanks for posting.
@eddielane9569
@eddielane9569 4 жыл бұрын
Me either and I was in the Marines.
@jafojafo5412
@jafojafo5412 3 жыл бұрын
@@eddielane9569 xgnk
@videomaniac108
@videomaniac108 7 жыл бұрын
The firepower of these big naval guns is hard to believe. My dad served aboard the USS North Carolina as a machinist's mate during the Pacific Campaign during WW2. When I was a little kid I wanted to go into the Navy as a member of the UDT(underwater demolition team), but instead went into the Army in the late 60s.
@milt6208
@milt6208 Жыл бұрын
I had a friend who did one tour in Vietman for Uncle Sam and went back for himself. I've always thought anybody who lies about going to Vietnam should have fingers broken. I joined the service before the end of the war knowing I would never go there.
@johnmoriarty6158
@johnmoriarty6158 Жыл бұрын
Those swimmers were the real deal. I had the privilege to talk with one about 20 years ago.
@Cha-y412
@Cha-y412 3 жыл бұрын
My Uncle James Berry at age 17 was a gunners mate on the USS Astoria Cruiser Light 90 assigned to the forward 5 inch gun mount at Iwo Jima. A few things he spoke of were: 1. The USS Astoria fired her heavy guns 5 and 6 inch non stop for 26 hours 2. The USS Astoria was so close to the Island that through the smoke he could sometime get a glimps of the Japanese running on the hill. 3. The USS Astoria only retreated from Iwo Jima because she ran out of ammo. 4 Captain Dryer of the USS Astoria allowed all crew men to go topside to see the American Flag that was raised by the Marines . 5. And my favorite one -----. If you ever want to become a rich man dive off Iwo Jima and collect and recycle all the brass that was pushed off the decks of all the American war ships.
@RubyBandUSA
@RubyBandUSA Жыл бұрын
Your uncle sounds like quite a character. The very type of character that won the war for the US.
@Cha-y412
@Cha-y412 Жыл бұрын
@@RubyBandUSA He truly was .
@MisterMac4321
@MisterMac4321 Жыл бұрын
While the film suggests the naval bombardment was highly effective, the official US Navy report "Iwo Jima Naval Gunfire Support post-operation analysis" (published in 1945) says otherwise. The report was put together shortly after the island was declared secure so that the lessons learned from the battle could be incorporated into planning for the anticipated 1946 invasion of Japan (Operation OLYMPIC-CORONET). A few quotes from the document that address some of the main problem areas which were identified: 1) "...the quantity and direction of the preparation fires were such as to enable the Landing Force to make the landing without excessive casualties. However, the time allowed for these fires was not sufficient to eliminate enemy installations farther inland... which later caused heavy casualties and effectively slowed the troop advance." 2) "...all the Naval Gunfire and Air bombardments conducted prior to D-Day minus three were almost entirely ineffective as measured in actual destruction of enemy installations or personnel." 3) "Experience at Iwo Jima shows that firing against the extremely heavy block houses, covered artillery emplacements, troops shelters, and pill boxes was largely ineffective at medium and long ranges, even when the spotting planes could see the targets to adjust fires. Only repeated direct hits were able destroy or seriously damage such Installations." This isn't to say that the bombardment didn't contribute anything significant to the assault, but it highlights that a far more was expected from what was one of the largest pre-invasion bombardments of the war than was actually delivered.
@RubyBandUSA
@RubyBandUSA Жыл бұрын
thanks for posting Macman
@Achill101
@Achill101 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this information.
@russellrobinson8541
@russellrobinson8541 6 жыл бұрын
9:10 thru 9:24is BADASS!!!!! I've seen film of rockets being shot off of warships before but I've NEVER seen the hits until this little clip. Really cool man.
@walterwayne5405
@walterwayne5405 2 жыл бұрын
The Navy UDT teams (The Frogmen) were incredible. Watch the 1951 movie ,The Frogmen, that shows these brave predecessors of the Navy Seals. My dad was in the first wave at Iwo (5th Mar.Div., 26th Marine Reg.). They truly appreciated the job done by the UDT's.
@johnrogers9481
@johnrogers9481 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that movie “The Frogmen” was good one! Starring the great Richard Widmark! I believe I saw it in a big theater when it first came out, and it had a big impact on me! I have always been drawn to this powerful movie. I got to see it again about two years ago on the web, maybe on KZfaq. Hail all those brave men!
@ghostmourn
@ghostmourn 7 жыл бұрын
My Grandfather was there, didn't like to talk about it other than to say it was horrific industrial scale killing. Said they just bulldozed the caves and holes in while they were still full of Japaneses troops. No quarter given.
@Achill101
@Achill101 4 жыл бұрын
I thought they would have gladly accepted the surrender of Japanese troops, but the Japanese rarely surrendered on Iwo Jima.
@ordinarysavage
@ordinarysavage Жыл бұрын
Wow; that was war, true and unadulterated . .
@bosox6554
@bosox6554 Жыл бұрын
The Japanese were ruthless everywhere they captured in WW2..They deserved no quarter.
@terryenglish7132
@terryenglish7132 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. My uncle was a paratrooper. He was in the second wave of some attack in the Italian campaign. After the first wave was killed to a man , his was called off. Mom told me that. I asked him about the War once, "Oh, I don't talk about that" he said sort of wistfully w a far away look in his eyes.
@joebombero1
@joebombero1 Жыл бұрын
That's what the Japanese did on Bataan. They eventually just brought in a line of bulldozers and covered over the first line of trenches, clearing the way for their armor. Hundreds of US Army bodies were never recovered, still there.
@mikes9117
@mikes9117 7 жыл бұрын
thanks for the video. both my grandfathers fought it WWII.. one was a bomber pilot in the pacific he actually landed on iwo jima . my other grandfather was in the army and began in Africa and fought all the way to Germany. they dont make men like that anymore, not to mention the ground forces that attacked iwo jima were bad ass...
@clivet
@clivet 7 жыл бұрын
Mike S
@craftbeerman2891
@craftbeerman2891 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah- they still make them. They're currently working in the ME and Afghanistan. I had the privilege of working with them in Baghdad. My father was a WW II bomber pilot in the 13th AF by the way
@miriamblack1285
@miriamblack1285 3 жыл бұрын
My Grandfather was there, didn't like to talk about it other than to say it was horrific industrial scale killing. Said they just bulldozed the caves and holes in while they were still full of Japaneses troops. No quarter given.
@neurofiedyamato8763
@neurofiedyamato8763 7 жыл бұрын
This is very informative. Very detailed information on their naval set up. But wish they go more on how the Japanese set up the defenses too.
@Scott-kc5fg
@Scott-kc5fg 7 жыл бұрын
My grandfather was a 20 mm gunner on the Big Spud AKA USS Idaho. They were hit, not a direct hit, but a Kamikaze pilot.
@brianfergus839
@brianfergus839 4 жыл бұрын
Tim Cantrell “sunk eight carriers”. No.
@jackjordan9889
@jackjordan9889 Жыл бұрын
My grandfather died on 18 Feb 1945 at Iwo Jima on the USS Blessman when a 500 lb bomb hit in the high-speed transport's starboard mess hall killing 40 men. The resulting fires put the ship out of commission.
@NATES84
@NATES84 6 жыл бұрын
The airfield capture was critical as well as the timetable for Getting ready for Okinawa .They did the best with what they had .And they had a lot of tough Marines against a serious smart enemy Japanese force.
@marbleman52
@marbleman52 7 жыл бұрын
I hadn't seen this...thanks. The timing of the shelling right in front of the landing forces was close...real close..!! And I hadn't seen the defensive perimeter of ships guarding the gunships, either. There was a lot of detailed strategy involved in the Pacific Campaign that we have never seen. My Father was on the Escort Carrier Lunga Point and was here at Iwo and at Okinawa.
@robertmattison1282
@robertmattison1282 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this footage on KZfaq.
@slimeydon
@slimeydon Жыл бұрын
My father’s ship was the flagship for the LCI gunboats that protected the frogmen that went in on the 17th. They were 700 yards off the beach, got taken under fire and took shell fragments that wounded some sailors.
@fiestyhamster
@fiestyhamster 7 жыл бұрын
750 individual installations! What a fortress.
@mcc9887
@mcc9887 6 жыл бұрын
How would you like to be one of the swimmers 4.42 this must rate as one of the bravest actions....respect to them...respect to all the troops ...
@motorcop505
@motorcop505 6 жыл бұрын
MC C Those "swimmers" were Underwater Demolition Team (UDT) frogmen... the predecessors of today's SEALs. Those frogmen were seriously heavy duty men!
@mcc9887
@mcc9887 6 жыл бұрын
sir they truly were heavy duty men they have my up most respect...
@brianfergus839
@brianfergus839 4 жыл бұрын
Incredible!! And they said there was only one casualty among the “swimmers”?!?
@fredrickmillstead6397
@fredrickmillstead6397 3 жыл бұрын
The original seals.
@tomgates316
@tomgates316 7 жыл бұрын
My father fought on Iwo. Said it was a mess. No idea of the amount of tunnels running through the island. Beach contained markers for shelling. J troops had precise target info for them all. US troops would try to get rid of them. J troops put them back in place at night, sneaking out of tunnels. He eventually worked with The C Bs working on expanding the fields. Talked about how many times the P51's would take off and fire their guns to keep the J troops heads down. US had one end of the strip. J troops the other. Believe it was a World at War episode or GI Diary where my dad and a couple pals were filmed taking a break sitting on top of 55 gallon drums and having a smoke. Hope they were empty. He loved the P51 for the role they played. In later years he and I went to the local Confederate Air Force air show. Every time they flew the P51's you could tell in his mind he was back at a place far away in the Pacific. He only ever talked about a couple of stories from that time on Iwo. And that was much later in his life. He had an album of pictures taken on Iwo, many taken after cleanup. Powerful pictures, can't imagine what his time there was like.
@rickpatterson3065
@rickpatterson3065 Жыл бұрын
My Dad was in UDT during the war, not sure if he was part this attack but it reminded me of his life. He didn't talk much about the War
@WildBillCox13
@WildBillCox13 7 жыл бұрын
A wonderful primer on Amphibious landing procedure and objectives.
@TheSolongsidekick
@TheSolongsidekick 6 жыл бұрын
Incredible footage. This is the first time I've been able to find footage of LSM(R)'s firing and their effect on target. So cool.
@jeremybear573
@jeremybear573 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, my greatest admiration goes out to those troops on both sides of the battle for control of this island! This was a bloodbath!
@neilsthepoet
@neilsthepoet 7 жыл бұрын
Jeremy Bear both sides?!.... Don't be a beta male twit
@neurofiedyamato8763
@neurofiedyamato8763 7 жыл бұрын
"beta male twit"-hard to take anyone seriously when they use such words. To respect both sides is not a sign of weakness. To not do so just proves you are narrow minded.
@neilsthepoet
@neilsthepoet 7 жыл бұрын
Neurofied Yamato it's a sign of neutral as In neuter. You probably don't think we should have dropped the bomb....
@TigerDude333
@TigerDude333 7 жыл бұрын
You probably think alpha wolf is actually a thing. You are probably alpha the same way the wolves were: dysfunctional and all screwed up mentally. Look it up, pinhead.
@neilsthepoet
@neilsthepoet 7 жыл бұрын
Joe Rockhead nothing is sacred may you be looking up at a street light in a 2am parking lot.... That'll be fun too
@TheFlutecart
@TheFlutecart Жыл бұрын
Frogman footage, those guys were the beginning of the SEAL program. Naval gun fire is some nasty stuff.
@partisanrangers
@partisanrangers 7 жыл бұрын
Incredible film!
@callumw-s8693
@callumw-s8693 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome footage!
@harlop
@harlop 7 жыл бұрын
Ty so much. I love anything that involves our beautiful Battleships.Love them Big Naval Gunz!!!!!!!!!
@allgood6760
@allgood6760 Жыл бұрын
A video is worth a thousand pictures.. thanks for this.👍
@PeriscopeFilm
@PeriscopeFilm Жыл бұрын
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@oldstudbuck3583
@oldstudbuck3583 Жыл бұрын
Had to be a terrifying sight from a bunker seeing the muzzle flash then feel the earth shake from the 16” guns.
@jimholmes2555
@jimholmes2555 Жыл бұрын
My father was in WWII, In the European theater he was a sight setter on the 4 inch guns on the USS Charles F. Hughes DD-428. In the Pacific theater he was sonarman 2nd class. He and his ship were in the Sea of Japan for the surrender.
@janibeg3247
@janibeg3247 Жыл бұрын
according to another video on naval gun fire at Iwo, only about 1/5 of planned naval gunfire actually occurred.
@davidweston6653
@davidweston6653 3 жыл бұрын
Learned a lot, tks
@sidewinder666666
@sidewinder666666 4 жыл бұрын
Dad's patrol bomber squadron, VPB-109 in which he was a nose gunner on a PB4Y-2 Privateer, was stationed on Iwo Jima immediately after the island was declared "secure" (which by no means meant "free of Japanese"). He said that island was the asshole of the Pacific.
@janewhite4486
@janewhite4486 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent !!!
@keystonebrotherb
@keystonebrotherb Жыл бұрын
My Dad was on the USS John Rodgers. He went on to Okinawa.
@PeriscopeFilm
@PeriscopeFilm Жыл бұрын
God bless your Dad for his service to our great nation.
@valuedhumanoid6574
@valuedhumanoid6574 4 жыл бұрын
The bravery and courage of the Marines and Sailors is remarkable. Those first few landing crafts and armor had to have separate life vest for the size of their balls...
@bamariverrat4095
@bamariverrat4095 6 жыл бұрын
My dad was in the UDTs. He said it was pure hell, all they gave you was a knife and a pair of flippers. REAL Men back in the days.
@alaskaaksala123
@alaskaaksala123 Жыл бұрын
Amazing!… what a time to have been alive.
@dryan8377
@dryan8377 6 жыл бұрын
No answer. I support your efforts, great job. Thanks for calling me a lunkhead.
@rudyyarbrough5122
@rudyyarbrough5122 Жыл бұрын
I don't know if the US will ever meet again such a determined foe as Japan. Their Bushido beliefs made them a fight to the death enemy. That is one tough assignment for any army. Our Navy and Marines did their duty and the world saw what American fighting men were like. It is a terrible shame that so many had to die for so few instigators. It is never the front-line warrior that causes the war but they are the victims of corrupt politics.
@akiko009
@akiko009 Жыл бұрын
That's probably a good thing, because the bubblewrapped snowflakes of today would only know how to go to their safe space.
@larrycordes1291
@larrycordes1291 Жыл бұрын
My dad was there. He was on YMS401. This is the first time I have been able to see how close the yms’s got to shore. As a little boy in the 50’s I asked if he was afraid. He said they would just stay on the Seward side of the boat. They would start sweeping three days before the invasion and I overheard my dad talking to one of his buddies. Dad and the cook went to have a cigarette and seaman Farmer (the cook. and the only black man on board). All of a sudden seaman Farmer grabbed my dad and pulled him to the deck. Where they were standing a shell exploded close and the area they standing in was covered in shrapnel. I wouldn’t be here to day if not for the hero cook.
@johncox2284
@johncox2284 6 ай бұрын
I was in the Coast Guard on a.LORAN station on Iwo Jima between 1972 and 73. The island still looked like WWII had just ended the week before. The big case mate gun was still sticking out of the bunker at the base of Suribachi.
@harrymurphey2634
@harrymurphey2634 3 жыл бұрын
... those "swimmers" ... they where the beginning of the Navy Seals. I had an Uncle who was one of them ... they where called UDT ... (I was told ....)
@845835
@845835 Жыл бұрын
The cost just to take this small island was enormous and yet people today think the use of the atomic bombs was unnecessary even though the Japanese had absolutely no intention of unconditional surrender and even after dropping the bombs the Japanese military still wanted to fight.
@phoenixrising4073
@phoenixrising4073 Жыл бұрын
The firebombing campaign did far more destruction and death than the nukes caused. Over 50 percent of 66 of their largest cities were burned to the damn ground, civilians and all. That would be the equivalent of burning down every state capital and 16 extra large cities. I feel as though historians and documentaries only focus on the nukes and seldom speak of the firebombing. What a terrible war.
@juschu67
@juschu67 6 жыл бұрын
The other problem of shore bombardment was the flatness of the shell's flight. You had to be reasonably close to be accurate but, with high velocity naval guns, that meant a very flat trajectory. This wasn't ideal for shore bombardment, it took only a small hill or ridge to make forces on the other side immune to naval gunfire. Instead, you needed something like a mortar or howitzer to lob shells over the obstruction. As the war moved on, the pre-battle bombardment was recognized as having a limited effect especially when the Japanese decided not to oppose the landings strongly but rather dig in inland.
@lewiswereb8994
@lewiswereb8994 6 жыл бұрын
As an old naval gunner from the early Nam days,I will say that you you are a little mis-informed. When we had to fire with a mountain or hill in the way, we used a tactic called "reverse slope" aiming. What you said is exactly what we did, we aimed the guns up high, similar to a mortar round and dropped the shells on their damn heads. Ain't no hiding behind a mountain for us old "wooden ship and iron men" gunfire support troops! Hills, no problem!
@EgoAlters
@EgoAlters 2 жыл бұрын
Increase elevation and use less propellant/charge sorts out that issue.
@kenoliver8913
@kenoliver8913 2 жыл бұрын
@@EgoAlters But heavy naval guns designed for long range anti-shipping use cannot be elevated beyond 45 degees and so cannot do dropping fire at short range. This is exactly the reason howitzers replaced cannons for bombarding trenches on land in WW1, and also why the big coastal guns at Singapore could not dominate the light Japanese field artillery.
@EgoAlters
@EgoAlters 2 жыл бұрын
@@kenoliver8913 I served as a FO in the coastal artillery and am familiar with the particulars. In addition to being trained to target shipping, we were trained to target land targets. Elevation, charge and fusing will make sure that we can reach out and touch everyone - the same applies to naval gunfire support. What worked against the coastal artillery gunners at Singapore, was the fact that they were not supplied with HE shells. Anti-shipping/AP rounds are not effective against infantry/soft targets - relatively speaking.
@kenoliver8913
@kenoliver8913 2 жыл бұрын
@@EgoAlters No, the point is a capital ship's main battery could not elevate enough for dropping fire as it would have needed far too high a turret - not a constraint for a coastal battery. Have a look at the video - the big guns fired almost horizontal.
@copperheadh1052
@copperheadh1052 5 жыл бұрын
Those rockets! Now those are some top-shelf fireworks!
@Shinzon23
@Shinzon23 5 жыл бұрын
...um, my grandfather was a Seabee cleaning up the shit left behind on this godforsaken hunk of island, and he told me he was damn sure that very few of the bunkers and gun shelters were actually knocked out by the naval bombardments... He told me once that he was cleaning out a Japanese bunker that was partially built into a cave, and that despite the front of the bunker literally bristling with shell fragments from the naval guns exploding maybe 30 from the structure, he didn't find a single drop of Japanese blood in or around the Jap machine gun in that position... Only the incinerated remains of the gun crew surrounded by a mound of spent brass... the bombardments did nothing to silence the position, it took over 20 deaths of U.S. marines to get close enough to hose down the cave with a flamethrower... So, knowing those points, highly amusing they made this film in the first place.
@RubyBandUSA
@RubyBandUSA Жыл бұрын
I of course don't dispute anything your Grandfather said. But this confidential film was probably made as soon as possible to inform ASAP other military planners actively planning new invasions, rather than wait until the cleanup operations was completed.
@phoenixrising4073
@phoenixrising4073 Жыл бұрын
They did say there were over 750 installations on the island. Perhaps the ones your pawpaw got to see weren't ones that were targeted. It could be a stretch to think he saw every installation on the island. I am not calling him a liar, just trying to point out the nuances.
@Scott-kc5fg
@Scott-kc5fg 7 жыл бұрын
Does anyone have any link for films documenting the 25th Infantry Division? They were the first Army division to relieve the 1st Marine Division on Guadalcanal. They earned the nickname Tropic Lighting in WWII. I had two grandfather's who served in the Pacific in WWII. One Army (25 th Infantry & 1 navy USS Idaho)
@bobparvin9773
@bobparvin9773 Жыл бұрын
Without a doubt Iwo Jima and Pelilu were some of the worst of the worst battles of WW2. The technology back then wasn't what it is today, so it took a much longer time to secure these islands causing massive casualties. God only knows how bad this really was, but if there really is a hell on Earth, WW2 absolutely takes the Cake.
@daleburrell6273
@daleburrell6273 4 жыл бұрын
...and there wasn't a single survivor of the combat on Iwo Jima who was one dam BIT sorry that the atomic bombs were dropped on Japan-!!
@ME-kc8hn
@ME-kc8hn Жыл бұрын
And as the son of an iWo jima marine who was later training for the invasion of the Japanese mainland I would agree
@williamwesolowski5191
@williamwesolowski5191 Жыл бұрын
My Dad used to ask, “ Why couldn’t we just starve ‘em out ?” since we controlled the seas . . . ?
@Gloopular
@Gloopular 6 жыл бұрын
Those swimmers were real daredevils!
@JohnRodriguesPhotographer
@JohnRodriguesPhotographer 4 жыл бұрын
UDT gave birth to SEALS.
@williampettitt9291
@williampettitt9291 4 жыл бұрын
Frogmen. Predecessors to the SEALs.
@hannibalheyes339
@hannibalheyes339 Жыл бұрын
Badasses
@travishart600
@travishart600 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful and tragic in the same breath God bless America
@jpavlvs
@jpavlvs 2 жыл бұрын
Spruance kept the 16 inch gunned fast battleships away from the bombardment of Iwo while he went in for a carrier strike on the main islands. Cost a lot of Marines their lives.
@RubyBandUSA
@RubyBandUSA Жыл бұрын
Didn't know that. If true, it was a grave mistake keeping those battleships out of harms way. If there ever was a battle to risk them and engage them this was it.
@michaelmarcus2318
@michaelmarcus2318 Жыл бұрын
Although in WWII "Iwo Jima" was a common transliteration of the name 硫黄島, the English "W" sound really isn't present in the Japanese pronunciation then or now. The 3rd character, meaning island, has 2 possible pronunciations "ji-ma" or "to"/(pronounced more like "tow"). Today the contemporary Japanese transliteration for the island's name is Iō Tō. The only visitors allow on the island are Japanese government officials and US veterans groups for special occasions.
@redline2655
@redline2655 4 жыл бұрын
RIP Grandad
@whirledpeas3477
@whirledpeas3477 Жыл бұрын
I get warm and fuzzy when I hear Nips
@RubyBandUSA
@RubyBandUSA Жыл бұрын
Amazing spirit of US Navy and Marines: "Request permission to return to the line"
@roseoftibet
@roseoftibet Жыл бұрын
The naval bombardment, though impressive, did not achieved much. It was a blood bath on both sides.Thousands died or were wounded. Experts are still discussing if this carnage was necessary. And the invasion of Peleliu Island was even worse and avoidable.
@davidgpeterson
@davidgpeterson 3 жыл бұрын
9:10 Jesus. Those rockets are brutal.
@guntherultraboltnovacrunch5248
@guntherultraboltnovacrunch5248 7 жыл бұрын
Brought to you buy the fading Battleship industry.
@kh40yr
@kh40yr Жыл бұрын
Heard a story of a flame gunner coming upon a pipe going down into the below. He put the barrel tip of the flame thrower down the pipe and pulled the trigger. Incinerated 30 Japanese in moments, right at a crowded junction underground. Just under his feet.
@stevebabiak6997
@stevebabiak6997 Жыл бұрын
Being in underground caves / caverns, they had ventilation openings - and that pipe was just that.
@ditto1958
@ditto1958 Жыл бұрын
What kind of boats were the “gunboats”?
@anthonydecarvalho652
@anthonydecarvalho652 Жыл бұрын
What a nightmare. God bless all the souls lost.
@12time12
@12time12 Жыл бұрын
Hard to believe this island may not be there some day, it’s a giant volcano and listed as one of the most dangerous by geologists. They should really relocate the Iwo Jima cemetery back to the homeland for this reason. The old landing ships that used to be in the surf are now back above water, not good…
@johncox2284
@johncox2284 6 ай бұрын
There is a 16" projectile on the beach at Iwo that must have been fired from one if tge battleships. It just plowed up into the sand and sat there. When i saw it in 1972 it was still there, unexploded.
@robsan52
@robsan52 Жыл бұрын
It's too bad the Navy bombardment and fighter bomber attacks weren't discovered to be only modestly effective against the ingenious, intelligent and vicious defensive techniques used by the Japanese until after the battle was over. Of course the samething happened at Tarawa, Peleliu and Okinawa...our generals were not the sharpest knives in the drawer. In other words thousands of Marines were slaughtered in the Pacific that didn't have to die.
@AASLT405
@AASLT405 Жыл бұрын
Rip to all the enternal legends the whole campaign. And good night manila John...wherever you are
@craftbeerman2891
@craftbeerman2891 7 жыл бұрын
Wasn't there a controversy about not using armor piercing shells on Iwo?
@gregorymiller6416
@gregorymiller6416 Жыл бұрын
The video was very good I enjoyed it very much but I disliked about it is the ads
@zarkondamean
@zarkondamean Жыл бұрын
I did not know that those battleships were considered obsolete and the guns old at that time. Thanks!
@PeriscopeFilm
@PeriscopeFilm Жыл бұрын
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@gordongreninger6109
@gordongreninger6109 7 жыл бұрын
Anyone ever see Iwo footage of A Marine dressed up like George Washington and pulling the lanyard on a 105mm as fast as he can. Mt Suribachi was in the background and his target. Didnt look like the flag had been raised yet. Lol hes a curious sight on the beach.
@FlorentinoRebuildingCo.5644
@FlorentinoRebuildingCo.5644 4 жыл бұрын
Yes i have seen this footage of George Washington on Iwo.....i have yet to hear any info on this individual or info??
@jacobsparry8525
@jacobsparry8525 Жыл бұрын
They should have brought ined some of thosed Gran Slam bombs.
@erikj2738
@erikj2738 Жыл бұрын
WOW
@PeriscopeFilm
@PeriscopeFilm Жыл бұрын
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@richardletaw4068
@richardletaw4068 2 ай бұрын
@@PeriscopeFilmIn a certain sense-that of being chest-beating Navy propaganda-it BELONGED in a Dumpster. But I’m glad you saved it, so that discussions such as are taking place here could be had.
@scotttyson8661
@scotttyson8661 4 жыл бұрын
Did they ever find the missing swimmer,.?
@nosny3570
@nosny3570 Жыл бұрын
and ONE bomber would eventually save over two million lives in this war. The Enola Gay
@kreigdernier9553
@kreigdernier9553 7 жыл бұрын
Wonder if things were delayed or the invasion thwarted would it have been a nuke target??
@d1agram4
@d1agram4 4 жыл бұрын
4:23 first video of navy seals in theater. 8:27 bullshit, they needed more shelling before embarking. 9:20 that’s more like it
@finddeniro
@finddeniro 7 жыл бұрын
Sea Bees..Construction Battalion..Gang Nine....Uncle Ralph.. Worked this Tough Nut....Read books on Valor.
@justincase5272
@justincase5272 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Bob Barker narrating!
@blastdude89
@blastdude89 6 жыл бұрын
Specific Defences in the Pacific Ocean
@williambeck2202
@williambeck2202 7 жыл бұрын
Finishing upon my post , what was the big hurry and why did we divide our forces in the face of the enemy and attack Okinawa at the same time ? , why not isolate Iwo like Rabaul and put everything against Okinawa was it because the Air Force threw a little fit and just had to have Iwo ? , they couldn't
@mrz80
@mrz80 6 жыл бұрын
Iwo was wanted precisely because it was directly in the flight path for the B-29 formations out of the Marianas. It provided 1) an emergency landing site for damaged B-29s that couldn't make it all the way back to the Marianas, and 2) a forward base for escorting fighters - Saipan to Japan was a heck of a long reach for a P-51 even with drop tanks.
@glennwetherbee4495
@glennwetherbee4495 Жыл бұрын
Lou Fabiani US Navy Seabee
@danielschmitt1935
@danielschmitt1935 Жыл бұрын
As commander of the pacific fleet. I would have bypassed Iow Jima and dropped the first nuke on the island.
@krazi77
@krazi77 Жыл бұрын
I'm guessing most of the munitions used in this attack were manufactured at the Naval Ammunition Depot near Hastings Nebraska.
@jankai1049
@jankai1049 6 жыл бұрын
Imagine this battle fought with today's conventional weaponry. Whooya!
@margaretneanover3385
@margaretneanover3385 Жыл бұрын
The film for title creates the issue about true nature. First there was a sort of trade unsure within USA and Japan ..at least some alliance of USA..so how it travels world was like that. Every other one a friend or goe and the ones giving order or direction meticulously had entire battalions going and or missing. That was the accompanying b imo
@highplainsaccountability6482
@highplainsaccountability6482 Жыл бұрын
My Uncle Manuel was in that fight. He wasn't wounded.
@johnwick-ii6il
@johnwick-ii6il Жыл бұрын
I'm going to assume that was the only beach they could land on. And nothing else was available.
@BrianBattles
@BrianBattles Жыл бұрын
Amazing that the Japanese bothered to try to defend Iwo Jima and Okinawa when facing everything the Americans were going to throw at them. Fanatical insanity.
@SgtMjr
@SgtMjr 4 жыл бұрын
How many Japanese were on Iwo Jima? Zero. There were 20,000 Japanese IN Iwo Jima.
@RubyBandUSA
@RubyBandUSA Жыл бұрын
A very good point Sgt Mjr.
@toddstrickland973
@toddstrickland973 5 ай бұрын
That's the business of war.
@TheLieutenantKnows
@TheLieutenantKnows Жыл бұрын
They keep it pretty dry and professional, but the narrator is talking about an actual human meat grinder when describing the landing.
@fredkruse9444
@fredkruse9444 7 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know exactly what type of ship the narrator refers to as "gunboats?"
@malapowah
@malapowah 7 жыл бұрын
boats with guns I guess
@Dog.soldier1950
@Dog.soldier1950 7 жыл бұрын
Fred Kruse they appear to be LCI's
@PeriscopeFilm
@PeriscopeFilm 7 жыл бұрын
I think this may refer to a class of ships that the U.S. Navy designated as gunboats. For example, the United States Navy commissioned 2 Erie-class gunboats in 1936, USS Erie (PG-50) and USS Charleston (PG-51), and during the war the PGM-1 through PGM-9-class Motor Gunboats were also in use. I also found a reference that sub chasers were converted into gunboats during the war on a talk website: During World War II twenty-four 173-foot PCs were modified to Motor Gunboats PGMs (PGM-9 through 32). PGMs were designed to operate with PT boats, supplying them with added fire power. However, the PGMs were to slow to operated effectively in this roll. PGMs were more effective working with minesweepers, blowing up mines as they were cut loose by the sweepers. Converted PCs had their superstructure removed and replaced with a smaller protected pilot house. The mast was shortened and fitted with SO-8 radar and TCS radio gear. All ASW gear, sonar, depth charges, K-guns and Mousetraps were removed. PGMs were armed with one twin 40mm gun mount, six 20mm guns, one twin .50 caliber machine gun and a 60mm mortar."
@fredkruse9444
@fredkruse9444 7 жыл бұрын
Makes sense, thanks.
@brianfergus839
@brianfergus839 4 жыл бұрын
Dogsoldier 1950 and Fred Kruse the poster’s long answer did not include LCIs, but at 9:11, those are likely rockets from a converted LCI “gunboat”
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