its NOT off-roading, it is simply snow they can't even drive in. this is, well...horrible.

There's really no excuse here. With the price they sell these vehicles for they should perform better. Especially since it seem like a software issue where the traction control isn't effectively programmed.

That's exactly what I remember also, the crv 2 generations ago was pretty awful in AWD tests

@@Sha-Ayo like mark says above, this has got to be a software thing. the pilot has always been known for its awd/torque vectoring system.

I cannot figure it out when Acura has such a good awd system.

What car would you prefer ?

you speaking of JEEP? I would love to see Mazda CX50

I disagree entirely. Hard inputs can be extremely dangerous in snow and ice events, and are never recommended. An AWD system needs to respond to gently inputs first and foremost

@@TFLcarthat’s absolutely not true, and not how AWD systems work at all. Most vehicle computers need a little more than a slight throttle input to recognize wheel slip. Mashing the gas just to see what the computer can do is exactly what you need to do to find out how the computer works. Some cars are programmed differently. Honda is clearly one of them.

Thank you for the advice. It’s just unfortunate that on a Honda. You have to do something like that to activate the all-wheel-drive correctly.

This AWD system would be ok for target buyers if they didn't jack the price in this redesign. Even if Honda added its kick@ss IVTM4 SH-AWD to this it would still be way overpriced. RAV4 hybrids AWD perform very similar to CRV, less complexity (no drive shaft and no rear differential + only have to change rear transaxle fluid every 60,000 miles). Most importantly Toyota's hybrid RAV4 is far less expensive and delivers significantly better fuel economy (especially in highway) @ 40mpg combined. Also arguably less complex and more reliable. As always tires make a massive difference in winter and off-roading so a decent set of winter tires and/or mild AT tires for these unibody crossovers (for those who weekend adventure, camp, softroading, etc) are well worth the investment.

So you think if you took a survey of CRV buyers that only 1% would go offroad? Many people want vehicles that do it all, hence the design. If it only did regular roads then what would be the point ??

but those who live in the snow zone 7 months out of the year be warned.(thats me).

@@86309 you won't have any issue with that system. Slip test or mild off roading which CRV owners don't do much of won't notice. It's not a Toyota Landcruiser with locking 4 wheel axles.

Toyota makes the best off road system

Seriously, I was about to put an offer on one of these 2025 all-wheel-drive hybrid sport touring model

Just get some snow tires and you'll be perfectly fine.

This will do perfect in the snow. There are barely ever any times where you would be in this type of conditionin.. its fine for snow roads

It's overpriced for what it is. Don't go for it.

@@ThirdBrainLives some years ago I was crossing one of the Southtowns close to the Bills stadium and the snow was so high that I barely made it with my 2007 Honda Pilot that has front and rear lockers and snow rated tires

@@ThirdBrainLives na, I’ll just choose another vehicle but thanks for the recommendation

Thank you. Tfl gets this wrong ALL THE TIME!

How about the non hybrid crv

On how many miles than you change oil on transmission if is not real cvt transmission and can you trust that transmission please let me know..tnx

@@simd510 the non-hybrid CR-V is a belt-driven CVT.

​​​@@zeljkodjukic5889follow the Maintenance Minder. Most automatics are usually at about 60k but the hybrids show no specific interval. Just "replace when necessary", which again, depends on your driving style. I wouldn't be surprised if it still pops up around 60k, however.

Crosstrek would have blown it away.......So would My CX30...........Paul

For the price, and when you’re in snow, where plows have not touched yet, and depending on the off-road condition, they do really well. Obviously, there are better, more expensive all wheel drive out there, but they will definitely get into your pocket pricing wise

As an owner of 2 Subarus I couldn’t agree more.

I actually have this car and was been amazing in the snow haven’t had an issue once, and I live in the mountains dirt roads unplowed. Sec most popped tires can be fixed by a repair kit so they actually did there job and looked up the facts also all donut tires can’t be driven on going highway speeds or for longer then 50 miles. So a repair kits better because you can go longer and at a faster speed. And fog light really ain’t that important also there lights dim so much. So there really no diff for fog just keep ur brights off.

@UCfMLNTmGl6G6tcUQqLrE9ng Because people tend to by AWD vehicles for bad weather. And this system would really benefit from better traction control in the snow.

@@TheMrDudinessthat’s crazy how people can be so biased to hate a specific brand based off of one car. That’s like saying not to buy any Chevy because how bad the new blazer was. The CRV is definitely the weakest and cheapest SUV Honda makes and I agree it should have a better AWD like the other Hondas, but they’ve proven the vtm4 system is one of the best.

@TheMrDudiness little biased as That makes no sense. Most likely cause Honda has a direction they want to go and the crv isn't their priority. They done all wheel drive test in winter and sand with the pilot, passport and Ridgeline. They have the ivtm4 tranny which the crv does not. I'm not sure why this test waa done with crv for

@TheMrDudiness this doesn’t confirm anything, dude. Honda is a great and reliable brand. Yeah their AWD system on the CRV needs some tuning but their other AWD systems on other models are great. Their SH-AWD system for Acura is one of the best, and they’ve got better systems in the Pilot and Passport. They just need to buff the CRV a little. I’d still take a Honda over an American or Korean car ANY day!

It's interesting that Honda has the system developed and in some of their models. Why not just include it in the CRV???

And you dont even need awd. Bunch of people in canada drives fwd they do more than enough

Smart man

How is switching to Toyota going to decrease your pricing point? I understand the MSRP of toyota RAV4 hybrid for example, is cheaper, but it is very common for dealership to put additional feature that you can't remove, bringing up the toyota to about the same pricing point to CRV hybrid, if not more! Futhermore, I am telling you right now, you are lucky if you can get RAV 4 hybrid close below 40k. ANY RAV 4 hybrid I am inquiring (about 40 vehicles) in the past year are going more $40K otd. with Honda you can get low 40K OTD in the US.

Would have really made a difference in your purchase?

Yeah, most people do roads on snow and occasional ice. Not mountains. The video is still good, but this crv will still do better than front wheel drive only on the same regular icy road conditions and not on true off-road situations, which seem rare.

Ours has been a snow champ once equipped with Michelin cross climate tire, instead of the mediocre tires that Honda equips it with.

Last gen was much much better! They fcked up the current gen

Right on! Better (appropriate) tires would a big difference

Also new model price got hacked jacked which unfortunately makes this very expensive in its class.

Youll be fine with this unless you’re in a rural area where the snow plows won’t come for a day

What do you drive now? Any problems in the snow with it?

@@lpete531 I drive a 2014 Honda Civic and I do have trouble with it in the snow

@@davewilson7602 unfortunately that is the case, one lane country road usually plowed 2-3 days after the fact.

@@TheMrDudiness looking for something more CRV sized or really even HRV sized but unfortunately it’s way underpowered.

Subaru FTW. Forester for snow.

As much as I don't care for Subaru, they're pretty much the king of snow performance. Either that, or get something with a more traditional four-wheel drive system such as a 4Runner Limited or Jeep Grand Cherokee. Both of those offer full-time 4WD, but of course those are substantially more money. Also the Honda Passport seems to do quite well, check out JonDZ Adventures, he does some pretty crazy stuff in his Passport.

The Outback does even better with the turbo because it has more torque. The NA 2.5 in the Forester and Outback lacks torque to fully utilize the AWD system and tends to bog down. If you want the best, then definitely go for an XT (2.4 turbo) Outback, it can’t be beat under 50k.

In the snow Honda's IVTM-4 SH-AWD vehicles perform best (Pilot, Ridgeline). Subaru also does excellent AWD systems though can't put 70% torque to the rear (and 100% to left or right) like Honda's IVTM-4 SH-AWD which provides better handling on road and cornering.

@@James-il3tq Subaru’s current AWD system can send 100% torque to either axle and either side. But there is some loss in torque as it does so, which is why I suggest the turbo so that you still have plenty of torque after those loses. 😉

Remember that hybrids usually come with eco focused all season tires. Good tires make all the difference on any vehicle.

Right, but you’re CRV is most likely outfitted with winter tires. Which is more important than the AWD system itself.

@@lennygarrison6836 yeah we have winter skins, would be stupid not to. My point is any AWD system will get you through anything on the road in real world conditions. Spinning on a roller or not making it through whoops in a grocery getter don't mean jack. 130 000 kms and zero repair bills other than brake pads, now that means something.

@@rubicondickweed Lol you’re a funny boy. You’re ENTIRE point was you mocking the roller slip test. Pretty much inferring that it’s an irrelevant test. And now you’re talking about reliability. Weird people on the internet, I tell ya…..

@@lennygarrison6836 Did you read the whole reply, or do you just not understand it? Pardon me for suggesting quality is more important than the artificial spinny wheel test.

@@rubicondickweed man, you’re not cut out for this. You should probably take a break from the internet. Your ORIGINAL comment, mentioned absolutely NOTHING about quality or reliability. And my response to your original comment, was in reference to you mocking the roller slip test. You’re just an argumentative prick, who doesn’t like being called out for your f*ckery. Like I said, take a break from the internet boy.

True but depending where you live a basic AWD system does help in winter accelerating and not getting stuck in deeper snow. But yes proper tires hugely important especially off-roading and winter!

Snow tires are not going to make a difference when it comes to very poorly manufactured AWD. Ouch. Honda quality has gone down.

Lol Canada ain't one homogeneous place. In Toronto, for example, I never felt the need for AWD and basically never touched dirt. Here in BC tons of people go hiking, camping, etc which means driving on forest roads, even within an hour or two of Vancouver. Amusingly if you're close to Vancouver you might encounter snowy roads more because they have not nearly enough snowplows for the area.

@@tarfeef101 haha the past few days in Lower Mainland require some real AWD abilities. And BC doesn’t really exist to Eastcoasters. Most of them have never been here since it’s cheaper to fly to Europe

Smart move

Just cancel it. It's not worth

I am going to guess, Wrangler Rubicon 4Xe.

@@rodgood Ooof look at that MSRP though. Thanks!

How about Subaru Forester hybrid? I used to have one and drove on beach with normal fuel saving tyres without any problem.

🤔 I don’t think a hybrid Forester exists… Yet. 😝 in USA at least… - right?? But it would most certainly destroy this abomination in performance and price. … probably not as handsome tho. This one’s pretty!!

The CR-V's relatively-crude AWD has always been disappointing.

New GF6 0-W16 oil is supposed to help minimize oil dilution issue in CRVs now

@@James-il3tq yeah I’ve heard of that solution. To bad it took a long while to be produced.

Maybe purely because of product positioning? It’d compete with the Pilot if it was better off-road.

Exactly, this is ridiculous. The vehicle should be better at this for the price they are selling it at.

Like everyone in Buffalo has a four wheel drive pickup truck, come on man..

Yeah it would. Just throw on some snow tires.

Weak AWD. Best to keep it on plowed and salted roads. Then snow tires and the exclusive AWD would work. Unless you have a pilot like some off roaders on KZfaq but then they have their little light that comes on indicating it’s overheating and they sit there, quite comical actually. Won’t say who 😂😂😂

If the price was more reasonable this AWD could get a pass for many target buyers (urban drivers who almost never off-road or even soft road). As for winter good tires and ground clearance in deep snow more important then AWD (although AWD certainly helps accelerate even a basic AWD system works fine in most conditions and on any in town roads).

It's probably gonna saved for the RDX redesign with a more powerful engine combo.

Then why go through the extra expense of buying an AWD vehicle--you are just throwing your money away.

@@RK-db4oq, Honda doesn't give you an option to buy a regular two-wheel drive variant. 🤷‍♂️

@@Inlitener Uhhhh yes they do.

Correction: they don't offer two wheel drive on a top of the line CR-V@@christopherbinkley2937 . Most dealerships my grandmother visited automatically spec all but the base trim with AWD whether you wanted or not! But, at least they weren't hitting her with mandatory ceramic coating, so there's that! 🤷‍♂️😆

@@Inlitener Who said top of the line? .... Honda doesn't give you an option to buy a regular two-wheel drive variant....(Your comment).....and AGAIN....YES THEY DO!!!!