You can see the future for sure!

It's almost like I had to make icons for every faction and forgot about them XD but yeah, monstakillaz are real good. Solid B/low A for sure

@@OffMetaMusings oh you made it? 10/10 job then, easy to forget

I think FEC need someone who really wants to put in thr work. Their new bladeborn warband would probably want to be a core of any build thanks to the inherent action econ

Daemons of Khorne are difficult i think; To play into their fantasy, their either want to have really high strength so that they do the whole 'cutting through armour' thing, or high crit damage. I'm not actually opposed to having a high strength, average damage faction in the game - would mean that numerically they become very consistent with their hits and near uncounterable.

@@OffMetaMusings yeah that sounds good, high strength average damage to get a good consistent amount that will make tough high cost guys like Stormcast think twice about diving straight in.

I'm hoping that the shatterer hits along with the FoMo are enough, forcing Horns to go -1 fighter; it looks like they have pivoted into Vexmor and friends but remains to be seen how effective that actually is.

The guys at Warcrier updated day 1 :)

I actually havent given him much thought due to not being available in matched play - the fighter is real good thats for sure but you probably want to combo him with something like a Questor Soulsworn for the extra free move.

We talked about them at the end :) Solid C-Tier definitely; they can still put together a 6 fighter warband and can absorb the points bumps on Hrothgorn's Mantrappers so combined with the trend to smaller warbands they are serviceable.

Somehow we totally forgot they were a faction! I think that they are largely the same; Medusas and the Krone are real good, and they have 65 point chaff which is serviceable. I'd put them somewhere in C tier - much better then the dreaded Claws of Karanak!

They are having it so rough that people even forget that they exist! :(

Always!

Yeah I've been playing them alot recently after the update and am very happy with how they are doing. Its amazing what a couple of minor changes can do to a warband

@@OffMetaMusings yep, feels good finally not being bottom of the food chain

The good stuff in Khorne Mortals revolved around a Slaughterpriest and taking a swarm of bloodreavers. They are great at 65 points each.

The white dwarf is real good... I'm pretty thankful that he isnt actually legal for matched play XD

SO they are! I've added them in the full list on my accompanying article.

There are a few genuinely cool ones like Tarantulos, Corvus Cabal, etc but alot of them are just a whole bunch of buff guys supported by other buff guys. It's hardly inspirational XD

I think I called them night goblins thanks to old warhammer fantasy XD

You can check out the written list over on my blog; link in the description :)

We need to wait to see ofc. The thing about SBGL is that they just have so many random bladeborn units that they can always put something good onto the table regardless the cost of the basic guys

They suspiciously ran off from my icon folder... I'd still put them in a solid B though

@@OffMetaMusings THANKS for the quickly response! :D I appreciate that!

I think that the fact that they had to put our a ruling on it shows that both interpretations were valid under the rules framework. Though no such problems now :)

The final list is at the end w/o toasts handsome visage over it XD you can also find a link in the description to the full list written out on my blog :)

@@OffMetaMusings Maybe I am to dense to find the part, but even at the end toast is covering parts of the squatted list. But now that I just googled your blog, I guess that doesn't matter as the written list is faster than eagle-eye searching anyway. Thanks mate =)

That's sad :(

@@OffMetaMusingsyeah but Im gonna try one today 😊

First Prog Da Netta and next Stab Grot!!!!

Its funny I make 50 icons for factions and the ones people are interested in are the ones I forgot 😅 I included them in the blog link in the description :)

You can blame toast for that! That being said, because the teleport is unlocked now there might be some scope to allying the leader into other warbands with minions

@@OffMetaMusings I saw a comment somewhere about that - there's apparently only a small handful of Chaos fighters with the Thrall runemark in Chaos. So it's cool if you want to sling Nurglings about the board but of limited use otherwise. Despite this I did manage to defeat the Jade Obelisk with Cypher Lords 2-0 in a couple of casual games at the weekend. I can now see the issues with balancing them, they are incredibly flimsy but if you happen to be playing the right sort of missions then teleport can be incredibly impactful.

@@anotherzingbo There is one big dude, who can delete models in a single activation, with the minion rune mark. Maybe he's even too big.

@@Dreadnob the Hel Pit Abomination is a Minion and a monster!

And I literally just stumbled upon a 2-warband box and ordered it off eBay. XD No regrets!