MORE PLACING LITTTLE PITURES IN FRONY OF LETTERS PLZ
@itsTronBonne3 ай бұрын
That moment where you find out IJ got nerfed and you weren't running any of the models that got changes... am I ahead of the curve, or just an idiot -_-
@OffMetaMusings3 ай бұрын
You can see the future for sure!
@Deus8883 ай бұрын
I think that Chaos Legionnaires are quite a solid warband. B tier at least.
@user-wn3zd3ei9z3 ай бұрын
You guys missed Fyreslayers (that gotrek was meant to be them) and you forgot monsterkillas (the whole Hunter and hunted was missing images)
@OffMetaMusings3 ай бұрын
It's almost like I had to make icons for every faction and forgot about them XD but yeah, monstakillaz are real good. Solid B/low A for sure
@user-wn3zd3ei9z3 ай бұрын
@@OffMetaMusings oh you made it? 10/10 job then, easy to forget
@ajr37713 ай бұрын
Think you guys were tough on FEC. I think the new lists are strong, at least so far so good for me. Seraphon look a lot of fun and awesome models to paint
@OffMetaMusings3 ай бұрын
I think FEC need someone who really wants to put in thr work. Their new bladeborn warband would probably want to be a core of any build thanks to the inherent action econ
@MordredtАй бұрын
Recently got back into Warcry after only playing one game with the original box set years ago. I took one look at Khorne Daemons and my first thought was “These are all so expensive for their stats”. They should all be buffed to strength 5 I think. And/or given some better crit chance mechanic.
@OffMetaMusingsАй бұрын
Daemons of Khorne are difficult i think; To play into their fantasy, their either want to have really high strength so that they do the whole 'cutting through armour' thing, or high crit damage. I'm not actually opposed to having a high strength, average damage faction in the game - would mean that numerically they become very consistent with their hits and near uncounterable.
@MordredtАй бұрын
@@OffMetaMusings yeah that sounds good, high strength average damage to get a good consistent amount that will make tough high cost guys like Stormcast think twice about diving straight in.
@skylarsmith12203 ай бұрын
Commenting to support the video. Tier list good.
@ShinjiIka3 ай бұрын
thanks for the tier list, and yes.. i was expected see a +points for FL in Horn but nothing happend.
@OffMetaMusings3 ай бұрын
I'm hoping that the shatterer hits along with the FoMo are enough, forcing Horns to go -1 fighter; it looks like they have pivoted into Vexmor and friends but remains to be seen how effective that actually is.
@Jamiedilka273 ай бұрын
Great video! Do you know if the stats on warcrier will be updated? We use it to export it to tabletop sim
@OffMetaMusings3 ай бұрын
The guys at Warcrier updated day 1 :)
@jacawandersmok904322 күн бұрын
what you think about ADD gro,didal? the withe dwarf in general and add it in to hunters of huancii ?
@OffMetaMusings21 күн бұрын
I actually havent given him much thought due to not being available in matched play - the fighter is real good thats for sure but you probably want to combo him with something like a Questor Soulsworn for the extra free move.
@antoniosalvatore36703 ай бұрын
Thanks for making this! Where do you rate Gorger Mawpack?
@OffMetaMusings3 ай бұрын
We talked about them at the end :) Solid C-Tier definitely; they can still put together a 6 fighter warband and can absorb the points bumps on Hrothgorn's Mantrappers so combined with the trend to smaller warbands they are serviceable.
@MrDansiel3 ай бұрын
No love for daughters of khaine :(
@OffMetaMusings3 ай бұрын
Somehow we totally forgot they were a faction! I think that they are largely the same; Medusas and the Krone are real good, and they have 65 point chaff which is serviceable. I'd put them somewhere in C tier - much better then the dreaded Claws of Karanak!
@blueleaves103 ай бұрын
They are having it so rough that people even forget that they exist! :(
@jacawandersmok904322 күн бұрын
Hunters of Huansci !!! ;]
@jjamesbradley19563 ай бұрын
Anyone noticed hedonites of slaanesh are the best warcry faction!?!?😊
@OffMetaMusings3 ай бұрын
Always!
@omegaforce38223 ай бұрын
Just played 2 games of my NH vs Sacrosanct and I can finally kill those tanks without trading half of my warband for one dude. That triple can really spike the damage of the NH.
@OffMetaMusings3 ай бұрын
Yeah I've been playing them alot recently after the update and am very happy with how they are doing. Its amazing what a couple of minor changes can do to a warband
@omegaforce38223 ай бұрын
@@OffMetaMusings yep, feels good finally not being bottom of the food chain
@alnilam89333 ай бұрын
Could anyone give me an idea what a decent Khorne list would be? (I do have access to the Underworlds team)
@OffMetaMusings3 ай бұрын
The good stuff in Khorne Mortals revolved around a Slaughterpriest and taking a swarm of bloodreavers. They are great at 65 points each.
@nickcrawford19513 ай бұрын
Oddball question, how are people feeling about the white dwarf? And do we think we will ever get a points cost for Gotrek?
@OffMetaMusings3 ай бұрын
The white dwarf is real good... I'm pretty thankful that he isnt actually legal for matched play XD
@DreamingDice3 ай бұрын
Darkling Covens and the disposessed are missing. Gosh I miss when cities was one big faction.
@OffMetaMusings3 ай бұрын
SO they are! I've added them in the full list on my accompanying article.
@drclownicus3 ай бұрын
Realizing that all the OG Chaos warbands are pretty boring makes one realize maybe them being squatted isn't the worst thing
@OffMetaMusings3 ай бұрын
There are a few genuinely cool ones like Tarantulos, Corvus Cabal, etc but alot of them are just a whole bunch of buff guys supported by other buff guys. It's hardly inspirational XD
@jacewilliams71353 ай бұрын
Are Gloomspite Gitz missing? (Was looking over the text article and didn't see them)
@OffMetaMusings3 ай бұрын
I think I called them night goblins thanks to old warhammer fantasy XD
@privateusername22222 ай бұрын
I don’t know what pictures too look for, where is slaves to darkness? stormcast? Nurgle?
@OffMetaMusings2 ай бұрын
You can check out the written list over on my blog; link in the description :)
@nicklaslundstrom79243 ай бұрын
Hahahah! Iron Golems as the new kings of warcry?! Noaaah I don´t think so, but really fun video, Actually by knocking them to A we are in a much healthier place now. I also think SBGL should still be in A, the abilities are greeeat still!
@OffMetaMusings3 ай бұрын
We need to wait to see ofc. The thing about SBGL is that they just have so many random bladeborn units that they can always put something good onto the table regardless the cost of the basic guys
@jagereltirano34983 ай бұрын
Where are my Kruleboyz MonstaKillaz? :'(
@OffMetaMusings3 ай бұрын
They suspiciously ran off from my icon folder... I'd still put them in a solid B though
@jagereltirano34983 ай бұрын
@@OffMetaMusings THANKS for the quickly response! :D I appreciate that!
@ZiggyStardunk3 ай бұрын
Super suprised at peoples old reading of slippery. People were disengaging while not engaged? Huh?
@OffMetaMusings3 ай бұрын
I think that the fact that they had to put our a ruling on it shows that both interpretations were valid under the rules framework. Though no such problems now :)
@ayonmetar2301Ай бұрын
Great video as always, but next time please try not to cover the list with your heads ^^'
@OffMetaMusingsАй бұрын
The final list is at the end w/o toasts handsome visage over it XD you can also find a link in the description to the full list written out on my blog :)
@ayonmetar2301Ай бұрын
@@OffMetaMusings Maybe I am to dense to find the part, but even at the end toast is covering parts of the squatted list. But now that I just googled your blog, I guess that doesn't matter as the written list is faster than eagle-eye searching anyway. Thanks mate =)
@Wilff4813 ай бұрын
Kroxigors movement got hit. Went from 6 to 4.
@OffMetaMusings3 ай бұрын
That's sad :(
@rolfrosenwanger13973 ай бұрын
@@OffMetaMusingsyeah but Im gonna try one today 😊
@alessandrotrupia68023 ай бұрын
Stab grot is a invincible TIER S how dare you boyz!? ❤ 45pt 4 tough kill everyone with reaction i spam 5 of them to stop and use generic reaction
@OffMetaMusings3 ай бұрын
First Prog Da Netta and next Stab Grot!!!!
@Muszkieter3133 ай бұрын
I can't see dispossed dwarfs :p
@OffMetaMusings3 ай бұрын
Its funny I make 50 icons for factions and the ones people are interested in are the ones I forgot 😅 I included them in the blog link in the description :)
@anotherzingbo3 ай бұрын
Cypher Lords still bottom tier! 😭
@OffMetaMusings3 ай бұрын
You can blame toast for that! That being said, because the teleport is unlocked now there might be some scope to allying the leader into other warbands with minions
@anotherzingbo3 ай бұрын
@@OffMetaMusings I saw a comment somewhere about that - there's apparently only a small handful of Chaos fighters with the Thrall runemark in Chaos. So it's cool if you want to sling Nurglings about the board but of limited use otherwise. Despite this I did manage to defeat the Jade Obelisk with Cypher Lords 2-0 in a couple of casual games at the weekend. I can now see the issues with balancing them, they are incredibly flimsy but if you happen to be playing the right sort of missions then teleport can be incredibly impactful.
@Dreadnob3 ай бұрын
@@anotherzingbo There is one big dude, who can delete models in a single activation, with the minion rune mark. Maybe he's even too big.
@anotherzingbo3 ай бұрын
@@Dreadnob the Hel Pit Abomination is a Minion and a monster!
@eftyextenebra18373 ай бұрын
And I literally just stumbled upon a 2-warband box and ordered it off eBay. XD No regrets!