Skarner is set to release in the coming weeks, so if anything they will be out around the same time

It sure did, because the Chinese government requested this spyware!

Who is skarner ?

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@@maniaman6418your mother

"What is that? You want some very special skin for your favourite champion which was only avalible for certain time during an event which feels valuable because you earned it by grinding out an event? Well here you have 3 Ezreals, 2 Kaisas, 2 Akalis, 2 Luxs oh and for older ones the exact same skin again but with a very slight colour change, which should be a chroma but we count as a seperate skin for some reason, because we put them back into the rotating shop so anyone can get the normal version of them...ALSO HAVE CHROMAS THAT COST 200 BUCKS AND CHIBI SKINS THAT COST 500"

I'm gonna buy the evelynn prestige skin the moment it releases.

they give big skins to popular champions because it makes a lot more money and it turn that give less popular champions their own skins

@@oe8578 yea but if a champ has 3 different "special skins", none of them are something special anymore, and when you then take into account that prestige skins are glorified chromas (JUST MYTHIC VARIENTS) it just basically means you grind to get an expensive chroma version of a skin

@@DustD.Reaper Presitege skins have different 3d modeling, different outfits. It's not a color swap.

I literally avoid playing toplane unless it's Morgana top in quickplay 😂

I never really paid much attention to it but has it always been that bad? I used to play renekton whenever I had to go top from season 2, 3 but didn't catch up on the news about the states of each lane

😂

I play malphite/kayle and it feels fine?

This can happen with nearly any software including other kernel level anti-cheats. In-fact it happened with genshin impact, which also has a kernel level anti-cheat. It has not happened with vanguard (as of writing).

We need to be realistic, bugs are a part of all development. League has many as bugs and it's meme'd to death but every other major game has bugs like these too. League is likely under more scrutiny because of the memes and just how big the game is. The more people who player your game the more eyes there are to spot bugs

@@GoddessLunaMoon Non-statement. Why yes, obviously all software can have exploitable bugs. What a revelation. All things are secure until they aren't.

@@GoddessLunaMoon Vulnerabilities in kernel level software are much more dangerous. The problem with the Genshin impact case was the kernel-anticheat, because it had privileges over antivirus software, a hacker could just use it to close all your antivirus software and then download his virus. Without the kernel level vulnerability, even if they hacked Genshin, the antivirus would have had higher privileges and could protect the user.

that is correct the only reason why i somewhat trust vanguard is because riot has a bounty up on hackerone for it if any of you find a severe bug, report it to them and you get 100k

imagine having the codename better than the final name XDD

why do people hate the name? not trryna hate im just curious whats wrong with it. i mean its nothing special but im seeing hella hate for it

​@@russellsexton8129 cause it could have been better It could have reflected some in universe lore or just fucking sound nice But riot wanted to make it look cool for e sports

@@Permafrost1 that’s true, would be wild if they have a 3rd game break the e-sports barrier

​@@russellsexton8129Attention seekers, no one actually cares.

Not to mention zero day vulnerability on a rootkit that is AWLYAS active on ur pc. Oh and its owner is tencent. The company that is actually spying on Chinese people for its government

And normal app can maybe steal your data but ie can't switch off your drivers for GPU/CPU or other high rank stuff

a normal program with admin rights can do the same for the average user

@@mypotatoesarenice no, normal programs can't turn off your drivers (btw they are on kernel lvl). Pls read how kernel lvl works and why so many it experts are against these types of programs which runs on kernel lvl and aren't required

my man, how do you imagine that softwares actually work? When I have access to your calculator app, I can't force it to download shit either. Be it with kernel rights or without, that piece of software is just not made for that. An anti-cheat software is like that. It is to prevent manipulation of certain RAM memory space (dedicated to LoL in Vanguard's case) and to keep integrity of LoL related files. If Riot gets hacked, how would they connect to the Vanguard on your pc anyway? There is just nothing to connect to, it is a software running on your pc that has no api to listen to. It baffles me how out of touch some people here really are.

Yknow, anticheat being open a singular second and being open 3 consecutive hours makes no difference? Thats still plenty of time to compromise your pc

You can close it after playing, but you need to reboot to open it again. It doesn't run in the background the whole time if you don't want it to.

@@kamikazebanzai1005 Yes but you would be compromised while playing instead of the entire time your PC is on

@welderscript9329 if someone wants to compromise your pc, theyre not gonna compromise it for as long as one app is open. Theyll just install a backdoor and then act like they didnt

There are many ways, SomeOrdinaryGamers (mutahar) talked about some of them in a recent video. I don't think you mentioning the methods would be bad though, whoever would program those already know, and a passerby definitely wouldn't be able to do anything with that information.

Riot doesn’t want to do the most effective method, but instead using the easier method. For some reason, Vanguard is very limited compared to other anti cheat measures and I can smell a potential problem. If what you said is true, it’s gonna take one malicious person to hack Vanguard and screw over all the devices that had it installed

Meaning players who also programs in their pc might trigger the vanguard. Unfortunately, such is the cases so once it drops , I may stop playing at all.

Can you delete Riot vanguard? IS it gone forever if uninstalled through windows uninstaller ?

Kernel level is a pretty easy way for developers to stop cheating tho. they dont want the best way but least ressource intensive one and it slowly becomes industry standard

I once had it after playing Destiny. This things are very volatile and could cause some serious damage if coded terribly.

@@Dat_Jonxmillions of people use it every single day with no problems for years. Y’all making up imaginary problems

@@mikelleonardidon't go crying to me when something happens.

@@mikelleonardi you almost make me want to go learn how to code so that I can hack all kernel lvl anticheats just to make a point. But I bet someone else is going to do it for me. All it requires is for someone to really hate Riot.

Exactly my argument and we know Riot have been hacked before so this is even scarier.

if that your concern then uninstall lol because it had more risk than vanguard itself lol

@@minhminh-wp5lg The problem is not the client being compromised and some hacker stealing some of your Data. Annoying but not immediately problematic and than just about any program is at risk. The problem is that if a malicious actor gets access to your kernel level you are just fucked. Like kernel access means he gets more rights than even an Administrator would have and from nuking your whole system and holding it for ransom or even installing a different virus to spread to everyone in your network to literally making your pc completely and utterly unusable that you have no choice but to buy a complete new one they can do EVERYTHING and ANYTHING. No exception made. The problem was never the anti cheat and having to install another Programm from Riot but the kernel level access for a Programm that wants to run 24/7 is just... ridiculous. Kernel level anti cheat is also already easily bypassed by many cheat makers, just gonna be a while until LoL cheaters and scripters get their hand on something new to bypass it. It's kind of unavoidable in the current gaming word to not have some kind of kernel level anti cheat installed with how many games use them but NONE, not a single one, demands to run 24/7, even while not even playing the game.

@@minhminh-wp5lg The problem was NEVER to have to install another program from Riot that may be compromised. The problem is it is a KERNEL LEVEL program that wants to run 24/7!!!!! If an malicious actor gets access to the client they can access my data and do some stuff not requiring admin permits but the damage they can do is limited unless they find another spot in the system to exploit. When they get access by compromising Vanguard well... then all safety barriers have already been bypassed and they can do WHATEVER they want with the system, as kernel level is just about the most rights a program can get. Their imagination is the limit. Use your system to spread malicious software through the Network nothing easier than that? Encode your whole Drive and hold the PC and Data for Ransom? Well something with Admin access can do that already but there are ways to salvage that situation sometimes. On Kernel level? Nah you are fucked. Nuke your whole PC including OS, BIAS and drivers to heaven comes making your pc and every Single part inside completely unusable by bricking the firmware. Admittingly, avoiding kernel level anti cheat is near impossible in the current gaming world, seeing how many games use them but Vanguard is worse than just about any of them by wanting to run 24/7 from boot because that means your system is at risk not just while you play the game but 24/7 while the program is running. Not to mention, kernel level anti cheat has already been proven to not be enough to stop cheaters. They have found ways around it in Valorant and other games and they will find ways around it in League. Just a matter of time really..... The benefits of delaying the scripters temporarily is just minuscule compared to the risk Vanguard poses to the whole player base.

If that's your concern then don't play any of the major pc games.

For real. The guy sounds like he would have no problems with saving passwords as plain text "because you send them to us anyways" and not think about third party attacks at all.

Really, you're concerned? Do you play literally any other game with anti cheats? Those games can ALSO be compromised, yet I bet youre still playing helldivers 2.

@@declaringpond2276 1. whataboutism 2. why are you betting on people playing other games

@@shiv_ring Not whataboutism, glad you told me youre 16 years old tho, learned your first buzzword. The point is that OP is a hypocrite, literally 90% of games already do this, yet theres never been a concern for "compromises" to security.

@@declaringpond2276 The level of risk is different between helldivers and vanguard. Yes when you are playing both valorant and helldivers, if at that time someone uses an exploit, you will be compromised the same. If on the other hand I am not playing valorant and helldivers, the exploit would only affect valorant since the program must be running from system boot, not game boot.

You sure about that, even singleplayer focused games with some coop or pvp slapped on them have them, like AC6 and Elden Ring both using EAC.

@@PhantomMiria22If you only play League, you dont have any anti cheat XD. feels nice to not have comments deleted XD. Every comment now is critical of vanguard. why did they invest so much in hiding the truth?

@@PhantomMiria22EAC for example is not kernel level in that regard. For example, if you use linux, EAC ONLY has access to userspace, absolutely not root or even worse, kernel level access (witch runs at boot). EAC only has access to the environment steam/proton/wine sets up. NOTHING else. Another example is Helldivers 2, works perfectly fine without it needing to see anything kernel related.

Not all anti cheat Programms a Allway´s on. Or problematic as Vanguard bei launch day or to day. So you have less attackengels by ohter anti Cheatsystems.

why comments are getting deleted constantly under this video?? xD

If it makes you feel better I’ve have it consistently running on my computer ever since Valorant came out and have had 0 problems

Who’s telling these bogus lies and blaming vanguard for it 😂

@@mikelleonardi"it didint happen to me so it cannot happen" its baffling how this is the first thing tech illiterate people say

​@@SaTyu_97 And for you to be scared about this is something a statistically illitirate person would do.

@@TunaIRL I've heard this stuff happen to those who played Valo, yeah, I ain't good with understanding this stuff and that part scares me. I don't give a damn about other rumours, but this one... I ain't got the money to even comfortably upgrade my mobo n old ass CPU, I'd like for it to not get bricked. So did that stuff not happen for Valo? Were the people supposedly affected back then just lying about it or? I'm genuinely asking

Yes. This happened to me on my old gaming laptop. I had to buy a whole new SSD to even use my laptop again.

broke my os when i reset my computer recently, its was a huge pain

I can't take this statement seriously from you after seeing your playlists. Might be missing a few screws

​@@skubae4616What you said is called an "ad hominem" argument. It's not actually an argument tho, you are just making fun of the person who brought forward an argument. And that argument was imo. pretty decent and does not require any further authoritative validation.

Congratulations on applying big words you learned in your courses but here's the thing.... there's no evidence or explanation on why it breaks the os. He is just stating it does, therefore it needs to," further authoritative validation." or else its just heresy. Also questioning sanity is a common practice when it comes to the validation on what someone is saying, especially when there's no source. I hope you practice this in real life@@arouraios4942

Well chances stand good that you watched this video on a device from a company that has had data breaches and lots of buggy software in the last decade as well. Almost every big software or technology company has had both of those, so drawing the line at Riot games seems quite an artificial distinction.

​@@lubue5795OS vulnerabilities do happen, but are a lot more rare and fixed a lot faster than RIOT will ever be able to. People who really care about those things would generally be on Linux as well, on which is even more rare. League doesn't really support Linux tho, and most people have no idea about how shitty their security is (I work as IT and I can't stand seeing windows 7 anymore) so your point is valid. Still I don't really think the rootkit anticheat will do anything. Gamer's club, valorant and gameguard's old ass games are infested with cheaters anyway.

@@lubue5795 Yeah and that's why one should be really careful when choosing drivers and other kernel level software. Thankfully modern operating systems get the drivers for you, so you don't need to worry about those as much and the only mistake you can make is installing vulnerable kernel software on your own

@@lubue5795 Yes... breaches in companies happen.... the difference here is that if that happens and you have vanguard you can be the one breached as well and not just the data you accepted to give to riot will be stolen but also your data in your computer is prone to be stolen... best part you'll not even notice anything until riot screams about the issue

@@lubue5795That doesn't mean, that you need to make your system even less save...

Soon. They said on Reddit

Who

Next PBE or the one after that, so basically late - March/Early April

IKR! the next skin line sounds like a perfect skarner skin line

Fucking wait 🙄

The only time they got a data breach was because of social hacking. Out of all the things riot gets wrong, theyre don't get hacked. Leaks are a different issue, again its just social hacking. You cannot prevent people from getting tricked or going rogue, it happens

more reasons to stop playing their games, I'd say

@@IMDee at that point .. you just should throw your all electronics in trash and go to live in forest xD

@@Gamer9o, I wouldn't go that far XXD

That was the best part "Yeah, why would we use that to steal your data? we already did that with the other stuff"

And have you seriously thinking about the Cyber team of any country will let this on loose? Remember the accusation always must be cross-checked with reality. For f*k sake, people still think RIOT is a Chinese company, and US's media doesn't want to let go of that delicious sweet pie on the front page when hearing a Chinese company stole their citizens' data without facing the Congress.

Exactly this "oh what is they gonna do with this" the most simple answer is sell it

If spam callers got your number, it's already out there tho. A lot of this shit gets sold by pretty big companies as is. If you say "fuckoff" to the scam caller's enough, they end up putting you on a "waste of time" list tho, so that's something.

What a load of bullshit though. I make mods for FFXIV, i've installed mods and used modding and CHEATING tools for games like Dishonored, Minecraft, Cyberpunk, Guilty Gear and others, I have a good bunch of very questionable unsigned software from github and all that with Vanguard and Valorant installed and working flawlessly. Never ever was I flagged or had any issues. Either check your damn PC for malware or stop using sus stuff in Valorant you dingus.

Then just use a VM 😬.

Im a code dev so I use a lot of tools like VS studio and other Cli tools for my job, I'm a bit concerned that it'll flag me falsely for doing my job

@@louisrobitaille5810 whats a VM?

​@@TheAsigmaOfNoneBanned from OW and Val for this (I think). I don't cheat and I don't see any other reason. I'm constantly working on something so it's always in the background.

eh, thats start of every season though, some champs are just so busted and others are unplayable, but it will get better as time goes on

So you haven't looked up, how much cheating is in Valorant compared to CS2? That's just an example. Also you can just shut it down when you don't play. It takes like a second. So I don't see your point

I actually researched the effectiveness not long ago for a school project and while cheating is possible in valorant (the other game with Vanguard anti cheat) according to cheaters themselves it *is* significantly harder to create cheats for it and they last for a significantly shorter period of time (aka you buy a cheat and it'll maybe last you a day if not less. Although there are different promised lengths for some cheats) so it becomes much more expensive for those who do want to cheat. So yes, cheating is not impossible. But it is a lot harder to do and it is a lot less of an issue as a result. I hope that league's implementation will be as successful

There is alot of cheaters in Valorant. They had to ban to manually@@ardez8674

Having Vanguard start @ system start is the reason most people have issue with it; and what makes it sketchy. If it were like EAC or any other that runs only when the game is running, no problem

@@Jackstermax That seems like a very weird line to draw. You can always close the program if you don't want it running. Also, I'm fairly certain many people will play their game after powering up their PC and then won't bother to close the anti-cheat software afterwards, so for your performance on security it will really not make a difference. So, this seems like a really minor thing to be upset about.

This. I've got an oldie. I don't give a damn about the other rumours. I do find that a large amount of people for some reason still carry the red scare stuff with it, as if the angels that the US companies are, are so much better with having your info. Everyone has that at this point. Don't give a damn where a companies roots are from, I just don't want my PC bricked.

Plus, vanguard Kills the leagues linux comunity, being linux community bigger than macos one, who is a big lol '

I will wait till the last day when they make it mandatory.

​@@xXVitalsXxrootkits anti-cheats don't really do anything and could be a vulnerability on your computer. People who want to cheat will find a way to cheat. Look at valorant, look at gamer's club, even gameguard in old ass games infested with cheaters.

​@@xXVitalsXx or maybe he just play on linus. Is funny to see all the salty people like you point finger and call all "cheaters" cause vanguard is such a mess. It flag you as a cheater if you mod skyrim or use bluestack for play phone games on your pc or even use emulators for ps1 / ps2 games

league of legends is already a chore to play, nobody plays it because its fun and now people have to hassle with vanguard of all things. It probably didn't happen to you but when i tried playing valorant with vanguard it didnt want to work and I had to go into my bios and do a bunch of shit I shouldn't have to do just to play a damn game and to make it worse if I wanted to close vanguard you literally need to restart your PC@@xXVitalsXx

​@@xXVitalsXx there are very legit reasons to criticize vang. i think it's a bit cheap to assume anyone criticizing is automatically a cheater.

@@shiv_ring The guy has no pfp and unironically uses the 2008 format of usernames, hes probably young and doesn't understand what privacy is since his parents come in without knocking.

Same here. For the first time since 2016 I touched grass 🤗

Well good luck :D Y'all think this is a Riot thing because Riot is the only company mentioning about it. Just don't own a phone or a PC if you're so afraid. The same mindset would be if you walk out in public 'hmm I'm here exposing my self to others and any big guy just could come up to me and take my money or end my life'

man they gon be so upset:(

@@ardez8674 Bruh, I've seen many "why do you care" comments and bad analogies, yours is by far the worst one. Congratulations!

@@ardez8674 Yeah right, anyone could stab me in the street if they want so there is no reason to not give any person i see a copy of my house keys.

toaster gang represent 👇😭👇

It;s amazing how I keep scrolling and everyone hates Vanguard. When you looked at the videos about vanguard in the past they had the comments massively controlled. Did they decided to end their contract with some propaganda company and cant keep up with flagging comments on Necrit videos?

"CPP" lmao brother you are most likely on a windows PC, using internet. The US government already owns all of your data, windows is forced to give them a backdoor to all data, and your internet provider is constantly selling every bit of data, no VPN will save you. Also why would the chinese government care about you?

ppl data is gone already .. with all the social platforms ... google .... all the internet pages asking cookies etc .... your phone .....million other games ... especially ones that you get free from epic. List is endless

That's sad of course, but accomodating those players comes at the costs for a much better security and probably a better gaming experience for the rest. After all, it's quite undeniable that Vanguard is very effective at combating cheaters and scripters while it may also help with enforcing bans.

@@lubue5795 no it's not, there hasn't never been a problem with hackers, pretty sure 99% of the playerbase never encountered one. As for "better gaming experience", wtff are you talking about? They will not give you a better experience. If the last 3 years didn't teached you that then you must be pretty naive, and don't forget about the client and the spaghetti code

​@@lubue5795 so good you can get quite some neat tic tocks or shorts of cheater in valorant. They fucked up so badly they got cheater in official tournaments. How many cheater you find in lol, asode all the "i lost lane! is a cheater! he lagswitchdd me!"?

@@frankhorrigan1508 There's so much more to hacks than obvious aimbotters and shit like that. There's hacks that just give you extra information on screen and that calculate things like timers and stuff, and these are completely invisible to other players. Also, it's not just for hackers. It's gonna make it easier to detect botters or permanently ban people so they can't just make a new account.

@@frankhorrigan1508 It's not just hackers but scripters and cheaters as well and those have only increased in recent times. The League subreddit has had a lot of people complaing about scripters in the last year and big streamers have complained as well about a notable increase in their games. There are also newsarticle about this topic out there that you seemed to have missed as well. And you seem to not know that Vanguard also makes it easier for Riot to enforce bans and so punish toxic people and toxic smurfs especially since Vanguard can recognize it when you switch accounts as the device is still the same. Seeing as complaints about toxicity and smurfs have gone up as well, a stricter and more efficient ban policiy will lead to a better experience for the majority.

Nah I'm good

That doesn't sound like Vanguard did that lol. Kernel level anti cheats are bad, but unless it was using up too many resources that it fried your PC, it's not going to just brick your PC. I would ask your brother what he did besides playing valorant lmao (or you)

Well no imo its more like "i already have the keys to your house so why are you afraid i make sure the locks work correctly"

I love this analogy.

​@@GoddessLunaMoonNo, its like "I already borrowed your keys a couple of times (and could have made copies/installed cameras in the house), so I openly ask you to give me a spare pair and let me install cameras all over the house that run all the time"

You didn't watch the video, did you. If you have the game installed, it doesn't need kernel lvl access to your PC for devs etc. to steal your data. So why would the other users need kernel lvl access to steal your data?

@@ardez8674 Did you read his post? "made by Riot. " and " It's not about the game developer or the company stealing my personal data, it's about possible vulerabilities in the anti-cheat software that enable OTHERS from accessing them. "

​@@ardez8674 I don't think you understand what you're talking bout my guy, the comment is talking about them nasty breachers, not devs. If devs have bad intentions, they can implement sub programs to the games so they collect data. Now, if a breacher GETS access to league data for example, they can ONLY access to whatever data the game CAN get and already has. Now, if they breach into a fucking kernel anticheat, they literally have access to ALL of your data, not being limited to what only the game gets.

@@ardez8674 Well and you also dont understand what it is all about. its about a 3rd party witch can use a kernel lvl software to put a malware on your pc with kernel acess which means it can ignore security features, its not that hard to understand. riot can install things because you give them administrator rights because you give them the right voluntarily and sure they can do stuff which is unlikely because a data miner would figure out and then it would be an pr disaster for riot. But it cant install other things without your knowlegde kernel is one higher and can just do what it wants in your system. which means when there is one security breach a 3rd party hackers/goverments and so on have full controll over your system. And big diffrence he always ignores is that fortnite kearnel eazy anti cheat at least doesnt endanger you while you did not even start the game. Riots thing is an always on thing which starts before your operating system boots up, and yes i have seen that you can disable it but people who dont know it better will not notice it and you have to restart the pc just to play the game after it. its incomparable to fortnite kernel anti chat.

@@ardez8674 his issue isn't data being stolen, it's the fact that Riot isn't a company known to make bug-proof software. Kernel is literally the heart of your OS and the thing bridging software and hardware, any vulnerabilities in a software running with that level of authority on your computer might have tremendous consequences on your machine as a whole. so the issue isn't data privacy but how solid and secure vanguard will be to ensure that nothing happens to his machine when he installs it or down the line in the future, and you know there will be people out there trying to reverse engineer how vanguards works to exploit it for their own benefit

The list is longer than what he showed in the video. Iirc Blizzard applications also use kernel level anti-cheat for games like Overwatch. I'd highly recommend you do some more research to see the full list of games that use Kernel level anti cheat

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Dont worry, this is mostly Necrit having no clue wtf he is talking about as very usual There is little issue with the anticheat being kernel level by itself, since in all those games it is initiated with the game, and terminated with the game The problem here is you literally have no way of playing league other than initiating the anticheat by turning on the computer, said anticheat booting up BEFORE your SO and being able to expose and being used for a myriad of completely fucked up stuff

@@fuckoff3076 it runs early like this and is always running in the backround to do the job its intended to do, just better. for those that dont know, vanguard doesnt connect to the internet until u do launch the game. it also barely does anything in the background. ive monitored it plenty of times and its activity when im not playing the game is extremely minimal.

Atleast those games company didnt have data breaches all around like riot games

that list is far from finished EAC which is listed there also is used for A LOT of games, such as several MMORPGs or Elden Ring, for example

yeah i modded lethal company, hopefully the colonel anticheat doesn’t boot me from league because of that

I was permabanned for modding when Vanguard didn't even exist, so I'm sure they won't be gentle with that either. They even flag mods from other games as cheating.

If you've played a decent amount of different multiplayer games, you've 100% played some with kernel-level anti cheats. It's a wide spread thing

I mean. You can close vanguard whenever you want

​@@nixsnowsong6732 but you need a whole reboot of your pc for few league games. Is sure fun "ok brb guys! Need to restart the pc", clsoing all, rebooting, opening all, do some aram. close again vanguard. How come riot cannot make a decent launcer / client and fail miserably on an anticheat? Shortcuts and low budget

​@@nixsnowsong6732 you need to restart your PC everytime you turn vanguard on and off

​@@nixsnowsong6732 yeah you can close it, and now if your friends want to play with you after you did it you gonna have to restart your entire pc to enable it again

And then need to reboot my computer to re-activate it. No.

You can just shut it down. I have Valorant in my PC and play it every now and then and Vanguard is not on. Where do you read this nonsense?

​@@ardez8674Vanguard isn't reliable when it comes to how it works. Some days you can launch it without it being always on while other days you have to restart your PC to play Valorant.

@ardez8674 If you close Vanguard, you HAVE to restart the PC in order for it to run again, thus allowing you to play Valorant and soon LoL Meaning, you can’t close Vanguard and then open Valorant/LoL whenever you want.. you will need to restart your PC in order to do so

??? The vanguard app is on but only actually runs when you turn on league/valorant you can quit vanguard when you finish playing but have to restart your pc if you want to play again, nowadays everyone has a ssd at least, so its not that big of a deal if you dont trust it to be on when not playing.

@@mendyc158 oh no you need to restart the PC!

brother, if they are running windows, or using internet, all of their data is not only sold to other companies, but sent off to the US government.

@@declaringpond2276 I know, that is why I think their concern of "My data is sold to China" is valid, but one-sided

@@GemanStarLP its not valid if they arent also concerned about the US doing it, otherwise its just racism lmao

@@GemanStarLP the china stuff is more of a red scare propaganda type thing in my opinion. I don't give a damn where the roots of a company are, most of the big ones are scummy, anything for profits ones that will sell this stuff on a pinch. US ones are far more notorious for this, unlike the EU where laws have been updated on privacy for these things. Yet I'm pretty sure most folks spouting out "But China!" are from the US to begin with.

And what elo are you at lmao? Cheaters are more prevalent in higher elos than lower elos… because their cheats bring them there 😐. Scripters are also very hard to distinguish from a normal high elo player playing in low elo unless you know what to look for. It's often much more obvious in high elo because the gap between very good and perfect is very hard to get over and even if you've been playing for years, always playing perfectly is nearly impossible. On a side note, I've encountered at least a dozen scripters in my 5-6 years of playing the game and I've never been higher than plat.

low elo confirmed

lol cause we are low elo my dude

@@louisrobitaille5810 So let's ruin the game for 94% of players for the 6% of players... seems fair.

@@Knight-Cyberia PREACH!

Riot needs to change a lot of things regarding to linux, starting with the old discourse that linux atracts hackers, witch is kinda stupid, when you think about what os is the more atractive for them

Oh and custom skins, league is 5x funnier with custom skins. So riot is killing that as well

you can literally just turn it off or uninstall it and then reinstall it/restart your PC when you want to play. You can delete vanguard without deleting valorant and then redownload it and then restart your PC

vanguard is more defenitely not useless as an anti-cheat mechanism. Compare Valorant to any other shooter and the amount of cheaters is wayyyyy less. There are a lot of valid complaints about vanguard but it not doing anything is most definitely not one of them

Can you link some sources?

Same here

Okay, but this is Riot we're talking about. Their code is going to be so incomprehensible that it will take actual hackers decades to find an exploit.

This was exactly what people were complaining about in Valorant but now everybody LOVES it. So don't worry. Its a very good system.

Example where this actually happened please, tired of reckless doomer speculation.

Honestly feel like the title of the article should be "Dev's don't understand why people don't like Kernel level anti-cheat". No I don't think Riot want to use this to steal my data and I am well aware that they could do this through the official client if they wished. The issues are to do with opening your system up massively just because you want to play a video game (A perfect example being the genshin anti cheat vulnerability). And yes I don't play any of the games listed that have kernel level anti-cheat (that said I do almost all my gaming in Linux now so most probably wont even run if I did want to play them).

​@RobotMasterSplash I believe Genshin Impact had an incident with their anticheat

Also... Let's recall how they keep say they improved their client but is still slow and buggy. Hoe can you trust an anticheat that diden't flag cheaters into an official tournament (where mr toast team lost against)

So, you're fine running Apple's, Microsoft's, Google's and all the other big gaming companies' buggy software on your PC but you draw the line at Riot?

HAH true that

Same, for me Necrit is riot's pupet. He spreads propaganda like butter.

The US government requires windows to give them a backdoor to all your information on your PC, your internet provider must also provide such data to the US government. The patriot act legalized 24/7 monitoring of citizens, this was 17 years ago buddy. You clearly don't actually care about this, otherwise you wouldn't be typing on youtube

Yeah I think that will work but it excessive