Which star players signed contracts with the new World Football League? Check out this electric video and find out - you'll be glad that you did!
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@myronheller616520 күн бұрын
Excellent video! The World Football League is an interesting footnote in the history of professional football.
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you!
@brando726616 күн бұрын
Do u think any of the afl champions could have competed against the nfl champion?
@brucewayne360213 күн бұрын
abso +++ tively ... extremely fascinating --- those were the days !!!
@brucewayne360213 күн бұрын
only a "punchers chance" !!!
@brando726613 күн бұрын
@@brucewayne3602 what was your team? The chargers?
@debbiehenson109620 күн бұрын
And Zonk made a grand total of $50k in 1974. All the Dolphins had to do was pay the man.
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
Right on, Debbie! They should have locked him up contract-wise ahead of time.
@VolumedMusicMan14 күн бұрын
Joe Robbie was a cheap owner!
@RobertPiche-ii9dt5 күн бұрын
Every single player in today's NFL should donate a small % to Czonka, OJ (per murderer of course)McCutcheon, Youngblood, Bradshaw, Franco.....well you guys get the point!!
@tedforsure865918 күн бұрын
Came for the football, stayed for the music.
@markgardner946018 күн бұрын
Classic comment!
@michaeltogni978810 күн бұрын
Some of the music has to be Billy Preston
@jstube3620 күн бұрын
Those Fran bombs to Gilliam brings back some memories. That's all we wanted to see. Throw deep to 42. Calvin Hill leaving left a problem for the Cowboys. How to fill those shoes. Thanks to some wheeling and dealing they got Preston Pearson and of course Tony Dorsett a couple years later.
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
Well, there wasn't much wheeling and dealing in obtaining Pearson, as the Steelers waived him and he was simply signed as a free agent. However, that transaction ultimately resulted in Pearson becoming arguably the greatest receiving running back in NFL history. Hollywood Henderson said that he could cover any running back successfully...except Preston Pearson in practice.
@jstube3620 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460 Hollywood also got so high on Coke, that he tried to pick a fight with Randy White. Not the brightest thing to do
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
There are more intelligent things to do...like sticking your finger into a light socket.
@stevenzimmerman405720 күн бұрын
Yeah picking a fight with the Manster wasn't the most intelligent career choice!
@mikepastor.k623315 күн бұрын
@jstube36 those football parties they had must have been legendary. 😮 I know the movie North Dallas 40' was a bit about era.
@JS-fm9hm20 күн бұрын
😯Damn! That hit that Kiick took at 2:58. I thought at the very least his left knee was done.
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
It was bent big time. That hard artificial turf had zero give at The Orange Bowl.
@tygrkhat408719 күн бұрын
Homer Jones is memorable for two things. He invented the spike after a touchdown; and of his 10 TDs in 1970, the first of that season was the first touchdown scored on Monday NIght Football.
@markgardner946019 күн бұрын
I hadn't realized that he scored the first MNF touchdown - thanks for bringing that up!
@stevenzimmerman405719 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460Vs the Jets I believe!
@markgardner946019 күн бұрын
Yes, the network insisted upon that because they wanted Broadway Joe to lead the program to a successful start.
@joeyvocals120 күн бұрын
Being 26, I have never heard of that football league! Fascinating as always! I was wondering when you would post again! God bless you 🙏, Joey in Cleveland
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
Thank you, Joey. This video was very labor intensive, so it took longer than normal. I'm glad that you liked it!
@keithsowder430819 күн бұрын
On paper, it was a great league...as stated in the vid, they nabbed some guys with star power...problem was the owners were mostly clueless and the marketing sucked. Now, the USFL was a real threat to the NFL...had Steve Young, Jim Kelly, Jim Everett, Sam Mills, Gary Zimmerman, Doug Flutie, Reggie White, Herschel Walker...and for 2 years they actually looked like a threat to the NFL. Believe it or not, Trump ( love him or hate him, personally I think he has been the best President in my lifetime, I'm 65 ) who was the Commissioner of the league screwed it up ! Now, to be fair, it was Trump's marketing skill that got them to be in the position of being a threat in the first place. During the first 2 years they were ( like the UFL ) a Spring League....but Trump saw the gap between USFL and NFL closing and made a major mistake and decided that 3rd season the USFL would be a Fall league and compete against the NFL head to head...and it was just to soon to work. I think if he had waited another 2 or 3 seasons the USFL would have been there right with the NFL.
@stevenzimmerman405717 күн бұрын
@@keithsowder4308I agree! Trump helped to kick start the league, but he was too adamant in competing head to head! Big mistake!
@keithsowder430817 күн бұрын
@@stevenzimmerman4057 Yep, if they'd have waited another year or two...or just kept it as a Spring League...they might still be around.
@brucewayne360213 күн бұрын
massive echo to Joey above &&& massive Thankyou's !!!
@williamparker884020 күн бұрын
Another great trip down Memory Lane. Good job thinking tot shot the helmet logos - some I remember, some I do both. Watching your videos makers me feel like I still have my hair. Thanks
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
Thank you. I did not recall what the Florida Blazers logo looked like and then I discovered what it was, I was bewildered. It's not very good at all in my opinion.
@brucewayne360213 күн бұрын
Thankyou ... a fascinating memory unlike any other !!!
@NigelIncubatorJones20 күн бұрын
Great subject for a video. I was a very disappointed kid when I heard that the Dolphins stars were going to leave the team. I'm sure it must have had some psychological impact on their 1974 season. Kiick was indeed winding down in 1973, but he was still 4th on the team in yards from scrimmage. Never knew that Stabler had signed. Wow, that would have made a huge difference had he bolted.
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
I'm glad that you mentioned the psychological impact angle because that is a factor that may have entered into the effort equation. Csonka didn't start three games. Was it because he was laying low and not risking further injury?
@NigelIncubatorJones20 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460 Knowing Csonka's mentality, I wouldn't think so. It doesn't seem unusual for players to be banged up. But still, I think it must have affected the team somehow, feeling like it was their last desperate shot. I suspect the loss of Warfield was bigger tactically speaking. He was the deep threat that made teams pay if they overplayed the run.
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
The great thing about the Dolphins running game is that opposing teams knew that they were going to try and ram the ball down their throats, but they'd still succeed in effectively rushing the ball. Warfield's Cornerback would inevitably become disinterested in the passing game, then BAM! The home run ball.
@stevenzimmerman405720 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460 Kinda like Lombardi's Packers!. You might know what is coming but that doesn't mean you can stop it!
@NigelIncubatorJones20 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460 Yup. The pinnacle of that mentality was reached in 1973, where they only rushed 6 times against Oakland in the AFC Championship Game and handily dominated them, then did the same thing against the Vikings in SB 8, though they threw 7 times that game. What really made that strategy work was having a great defense that could shut down the other team once the Dolphins got the lead.
@kingofallmediums212320 күн бұрын
Homer Jones was the first player to spike the ball after a touchdown! 😊😊😊😊😊
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
You are correct!
@stevenzimmerman405720 күн бұрын
The Dolphins were indeed hit hard! Losing 21,39 and 42 kinda derailed them!.
Stabler in a Birmingham Americans uniform?.You Made the point as I.was thinking about it!. Oakland probably doesn't win the Superbowl in 1976!
@stevenzimmerman405720 күн бұрын
Typical Fran Tarkenton improvisation at 9;03 !.I.will always remember that play!
@hammer44head20 күн бұрын
I remember reading the Rolling Stone story on Miami vs Minnesota that Hunter S. Thompson did and pretty much wrote that quite a few Dolphin players were going to defect to the WFL. The players were very unhappy with how much they were being paid and you cant blame them after all the success the Dolphins had. Glad you did this video Mark the WFL had a big impact on how the 70's turned out in the end, especially the end of the Dolphins legacy.
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
While Don Nottingham and Norm Bulaich were effective running back replacements, there was no true substitute for Zonk. Same thing for Warfield - Freddie Solomon was super solid, but he wasn't in Warfield's class. Thanks, Hammer!
@jammininthepast19 күн бұрын
Thanks for your comments, thought provoking and hey Hunter S. Thompson.....memories.
@hammer44head19 күн бұрын
@@jammininthepast - ha ha thanks, the good Doctor was spot on.
@brando726616 күн бұрын
Cheap Robbie cost the dolphins a three peat,
@mattsweeny395714 күн бұрын
Butkus was the highest paid NFL player around 1970, his peak...$200 Gs....Players were NOT paid well...Now, they are way overpaid & Spoiled
@orsbycrenshaw701623 сағат бұрын
My Uncle John Harvey RIP played with the Larry Csonka Jim Kiick and Danny White with the Memphis Grizzlies as I remember. ! He just passed away 2 weeks ago and Thomas Henderson spoke at his funeral. Danny White was quoted saying that John Harvey was the best RB he had ever seen.
@markgardner946021 сағат бұрын
I just read up on Mr. Harvey. Thank you for providing your comments!
@edstathis73772 күн бұрын
I love your friggin channel
@markgardner94602 күн бұрын
Right on. I love hearing that. Thanks for watching!
@michaelhemphill857517 күн бұрын
"Very " unique" historical"comp"..."Mark"...."enjoyed" the "visual"memorabilia"...."including"team names"...."logos".."where "they played...."stadium " capacity" dropping "good" info"all along the" watchtower"!!🔥🔥
@markgardner946017 күн бұрын
Well said! Thank you!
@brucewayne360213 күн бұрын
absolutely priceless & wonderful !!!
@MrBlk8720 күн бұрын
Great job again. great site.
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
Thank you! I'm glad you like it.
@TrpleAgnt201120 күн бұрын
Another nicely crafted video. The sideline snap of Stabler at Alabama.
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
Thank you. Stabler looked so clean cut and innocent in that photo. Times would change.
@stevenzimmerman405719 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460He was almost unrecognizable!
@TrpleAgnt201115 күн бұрын
Looks a real acolyte of Bryant's, eager to please, was my impression, washing behind his ears good boy!
@chrisrose601420 күн бұрын
Awesome look at the raiding this league did to try to keep pace in with the hecnfl as much as possible
@Rockhound616510 күн бұрын
I think the USFL had a better idea. If you remember, they didn't go after NFL stars but rather marginal players either caught in a numbers game on their teams or players who maybe had a couple of good years left. Their thing was going after the young talent in the draft, which they did getting players like Hershel Walker, Doug Flutie, Steve Young, Mike Rozier, Reggie White, Jim Kelly, and they even tried to woo Dan Marino.
@DC-ul3gn20 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@markgardner946019 күн бұрын
You bet!
@0Yemiserly19 күн бұрын
I was just starting to get interested in pro football as a 7 year old in 1974 so I remember the heavy promotion for this league at the time and have still retained some fascination for it. In fact, the first football game I recall ever watching on TV was a WFL game. Great video as always! 🤪👍
@markgardner94609 күн бұрын
Who were the teams that you watched on tv? Thanks for commenting.
@0Yemiserly19 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460 It was The Hawaiians vs. Southern California Sun, very early in the season. Probably a regional game as I was living on the West Coast then. I didn't watch all of it as the Sun had built something like a 23-0 lead in the 3rd quarter and I lost interest. 😋 I never knew the final score, so I just looked it up and found out I missed an amazing 4th quarter as The Hawaiians put up 31 points and just fell short 38-31. 😂 1st Pro game I watched was the only WFL game I ever watched, I wasn't quite a football convert yet, it would be the next year that I'd fully become an NFL fan and the WFL was dead by then, but the league has nostalgia value because I remember it's promotion at an impressionable age.
@markgardner94609 күн бұрын
Wow - that was a heckuva 4th quarter! Thanks for the info.
@RobertPiche-ii9dt5 күн бұрын
You're almost as old a geezer as me!! I was 10 in 74. I think 1972 was when I first got into sports. I have snippets of memories of the 60's Mets (lived in N. Jersey till late 72) and the Namath Jets. But 1972 I can still remember the Oakland A's, and the undefeated Dolphins! Seems like it was six weeks ago but sadly we know that ain't the truth!
@0Yemiserly14 күн бұрын
@@RobertPiche-ii9dt It flies by no doubt! And like most geezers I remember this childhood stuff far more vividly than anything that happened this week, or even this afternoon!
@anthonydileonardo815617 күн бұрын
I watched the WFL as a kid......being a Raider fan myself, I agree with the Stabler comment
@evanmeier357020 күн бұрын
How strange was that single bar facemask for the Shark’s player? I wonder if Namath had signed with the Chicago Winds if that might have gotten Eddie Einhorn’s network, TVS to televise more games? Perhaps the league lasts another season or two. Probably would not have mattered, these teams were so under funded aside from John Bassett and his Memphis club. Great research on so many guys who had been retired but came back for a last chance in the sun. Nice to hear some of those names again. Excellent work Mr. Gardner.
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
Alvin Wyatt ( of the Sharks) wore that same facemask when he played for the Bills. The Winds offered Namath a bundle to leap leagues. Without a national tv contract, there was no way that the WFL could continue operations. It didn't help that the country was experiencing big economic hurdles either; fans simply could not afford to attend games. Thank tou for your continued viewing and comments, Evan.
@stevecowder47745 күн бұрын
I honestly don’t remember the WFL. But how could I when I was so wrapped up in the Steelers winning their first Super Bowl, in the ‘ 74 / 75 season ? 😆.
@markgardner94605 күн бұрын
Totally understandable!
@RobertPiche-ii9dt5 күн бұрын
I remember actually going to a California Sun game at Anaheim Stadium. The Big A as it was called then. I loved the Rams but my dad did not and he had the car keys! People today would fall over but back then the NFL blacked out all NFL home games if they were not sold out 72hrs before kickoff! So I'd watch them 7x a year and listen to them 7x a year!! I followed USC and UCLA extensively so when the Sun drafted Kermit Washington, and James McAlister (UCLA starting backfield) Booker Brown USC OT and even Dick Witcher ( SF 49er TE for 10yrs) I was interested. Being 9 helped with that too! I remember Kick, Czonka, and Warfield ALL got pillaged from the Dolphins just a year or so removed from an unbeaten SB year! It was crazy. The uniforms were insane, thank God dad splurged for a colored Zenith TV! I believe the Sun also acquired Anthony Davis at some point as well?? This league seemed doomed from the start. Players demanding cash only payments, guys boycotting games over issues getting paid. Plus they played during baseball season! Back in the 70's we had baseball, basketball, and football season. They were defined and regimented. Our entire neighborhood would play tackle football from Sept-January, then Basketball from Jan-April, and baseball from April-Sept. I'd trade a dozen tomorrows for just one of these yesterdays!!!
@markgardner94604 күн бұрын
Great stuff! I'm with ya on your last comment, too.
@Roterhals20 күн бұрын
Great topic Mark. As a kid I mostly remember the big names from the Dolphins and a few others (I’m sure Stabler’s proposed WFL move was for money but also to stick it to Al Davis) and also how ugly the WFL logos and uniforms were! Thanks for that wealth of interesting information on the other players as well as the stadiums….strange times indeed!
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
The logos and uniforms had bizarre designs and color schemes in order to differentiate them from the NFL no doubt, much like the USFL did. I enjoyed learning about the various stadiums that were utilized - I didn't have any idea about a few of them.
@stevenzimmerman405720 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460I didn't remember all of those stadiums either, nice digging!
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
A couple of viewers commented about Downing Stadium and I thought it was terrific. Viewers who either lived in the area or knew about the stadium details and provide information are invaluable in shedding light onto the subject.
@stevenzimmerman405719 күн бұрын
Question for Raiders fans: Did Stabler and Al Davis get along,or was there a lot of animosity?
@markgardner946019 күн бұрын
Snake spent money freely and even though he had a nice contract after their Super Bowl victory, he kept pushing for more money which caused a strained relationship. That's what I heard any way.
@higgy0420 күн бұрын
The Memphis Southmen were originally called the Toronto Northmen but the Canadian Government kiboshed the franchise. The government under Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau (Justin's Dad) imposed the 'Canadian Football Act' that prevented any American Rules Football club to play in Canada, especially Toronto. According to Wikipedia, the bill was never put into law when the Canadian owner decided to move the team to Memphis. The Southmen were also unofficially known as the Memphis Grizzlies. That wasn't the last time Memphis inherited a sports team known as the Grizzlies (Thanks Vancouver!). 0:13 - There are those Motel 6 mattresses being use to protect the players at Metropolitan Stadium (or as I like to call the place today, THE MALL). Hearing George Mira being mentioned reminds me of one of the famous blunders in the NFL. He was the 49ers QB who connects with a future QB in Billy Kilmer. The ball was fumbled and everyone knows what Jim Marshall did if you have seen it on NFL Films. Never knew the Detroit Wheels (wonder if Mitch Ryder had a say in the team name) played in Ypsilanti, MI which is a suburb of Ann Arbor. When I think of JFK Stadium in Philly, I think of the Live Aid concert in 1985 or Rolling Stones concerts too. See both Rough Riders (Ottawa) and Roughriders (Saskatchewan) represented. According to the NFL Films documentary about the WFL, Grey Cup winning QB Rick Cassata (who? I was born in 1971.) signed a contract to play in the WFL with The Hawaiians. I assume that was why Ottawa was uncompetitive until Tom Clements arrived to lead the Rough Riders to a Grey Cup victory over the other Roughriders in 1976.
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
Great info, as always - thanks! Tom Clements: I really enjoyed watching him play college ball. I wish that I could have seen him play in the CFL. That Live Aid concert is almost 40 years ago. Dang, I'm getting old!
@jameswilson779012 күн бұрын
The Battle of the Roughriders vs. the Rough Riders featured Ron Lancaster at quarterback for Saskatchewan and Tom Clements for Ottawa. If my memory is correct, Tony Gabriel scored the game winning touchdown in the 23-20 win.
@higgy0412 күн бұрын
@@jameswilson7790 All the points scored in the 1976 Grey Cup were from Canadian born players. One of the best Grey Cups ever played.
@tjclarey448820 күн бұрын
I remember watching a few games as a kid. I have a Southern California Sun press guide.
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
Nice! I always have liked any of those guides. That's a cool one to have.
@randyhanson497314 күн бұрын
Great video
@markgardner946014 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@vancedurbin11323 күн бұрын
The Memphis Southmen were better known as the Memphis Grizzlies, long before the NBA team existed.
@markgardner94602 күн бұрын
Thank you for the info!
@williamford956419 күн бұрын
The league was seeking notoriety by signing all of those name players, even the ones who had not played for several years. People knew the names of John Gilliam, Ted Kwalick, Craig Morton, Gary Collins, Daryl Lamonica, Homer Jones and George Sauer. The issue was whether they could last long enough for those players to join the league and make an impact, which did not happen.
@markgardner946019 күн бұрын
Name recognition is huge. They were looking for star power in order to jumpstart their new league, but it didn't pan out. Thanks for commenting!
@johnm809620 күн бұрын
The New York Stars had five players from the Jets Super Bowl III team along with their coach, Babe Parilli. Matt Snell was one of their radio announcers.
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
I wanted to fit Parilli into the video, but it was getting long as it was. Thanks for the info!
@denisceballos974520 күн бұрын
The WFL New York Stars played at Downing Stadium - which was mostly a soccer venue - I remember the New York Cosmos with Pelé played there in ‘75 to much fanfare. They’d get a lot of Latin fans there since it was on Randall’s Island adjacent to the South Bronx. It was pretty run down even then.
@evanmeier357020 күн бұрын
Yes, very dreary and difficult to get to. I read they had to paint the dirt field green and Pele freaked out because he had green paint all over his feet after his first game and didn’t know where it came from. Downing was built with WPA money and was ill suited for football. The old Jets DB and CBS announcer John Dockerty played for the Stars also.
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
Thank you both for providing great insight into Downing Stadium, etc. It's information that would have been difficult to obtain otherwise.
@denisceballos974520 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460 Your videos always seem to bring out my inner sports historian. Sports is such a huge part of our shared history and culture.
@stevenzimmerman405719 күн бұрын
Agreed us " old timers" get our memories jogged and like to go digging for more!
@mattdon216410 күн бұрын
@@evanmeier3570 The New York Stars immediately relocated to Charlotte and became the original Hornets. The league folded quick.
@briggscharleton613920 күн бұрын
Sucked the heart out of that Dolphins dynasty.
@markgardner946019 күн бұрын
When 3 top offensive players are going to be leaving the team the following year and everyone knows it, then it has to have negative repurcussions. I think that your statement is spot on.
@stevenzimmerman405719 күн бұрын
They haven't won a Super Bowl since...
@markgardner946019 күн бұрын
....isn't that amazing?!
@waynejohanson10837 күн бұрын
@@stevenzimmerman4057 The Curse of the WFL.
@waynejohanson10837 күн бұрын
The Homer Jones signing did make sense as it was a big name that played in New York to play In New York again.
@markgardner94607 күн бұрын
I hear ya, but he did nothing in Cleveland during the '70 season.
@richardyoung8714 күн бұрын
In this part of the video I remember years ago when I worked for a temp company and I had a volunteer van and a construction crew needed 8 men so I took them to the company and one of them was a very big black man and we started talking and he said that he was on the WFL team in Hawaii and that was in 1974,one year before I went into the Army, so this video reminds me of that time but they went belly up,now you have a new league called the UFL,all of them are exNFL players looking to go back to the NFL,2nd or 3rd string backup player's as they once players for the NFL,and you might be surprised as I am not surprised but they need forget those days. Days.
@crollwtide945220 күн бұрын
It seems the USFL was the last upstart to seriously suck NFL star players away.
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
I agree with you
@stevenzimmerman405719 күн бұрын
Jim Kelly and Doug Williams come to mind.
@PhilTrexler16 күн бұрын
Can’t leave out HOFer Leroy Kelly who played for the Chicago Fire
@markgardner946016 күн бұрын
Yes. He had 315 rushing yards in '74. Thank you for bringing him up!
@rkid7278 күн бұрын
Kind of like LIV but without the money.
@danielbowden633020 күн бұрын
A great video. I don't know. much about the WFL.
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
As a kid, I wanted to know more, but the tv stations and newspapers in my area never mentioned anything. Unfortunately, the WFL is largely forgotten.
@danielbowden633020 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460 Agreed. Looksike there isittle video footage as well.
@jeffreykozinski458520 күн бұрын
If you check KZfaq you can see a lot about the World Football League from games to the World Bowl they played in 1974.
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
Thank you, Jeffrey!
@zcam196919 күн бұрын
they tried to grow natural grass in the Astro Dome .it didn't go so well . is it still standing in Houston ?
@markgardner946019 күн бұрын
Yep - it's still there, but not as wonderful as it was when deemed to be The 8th Wonder of the World.
@Rockhound616510 күн бұрын
Strange that Gary Davidson was a part of both the ABA and WHA, both of which, even with troubles, were able to survive for a time at least long enough to merge with the established leagues would run this league so poorly. I'm thinking that his friend and business partner Dennis Murphy was the real brains of the pair. Also, I'm old enough to remember the WFL but unlike the WHA and ABA I can't remember watching a single WFL game even though I was in the Philadelphia Bell area. NFL Films did a great Lost Treasures on this league. It really needs a deep dive into how not to start a rebel league.
@markgardner946010 күн бұрын
Those Lost Treasures are awesome episodes - I don't recall seeing the one you mentioned, so I'll have to check it out. Thanks for the info!
@williamgessler175920 күн бұрын
The Birmingham Vulcans! Was a fun league...just didn't prepare for the salaries
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
They had a unique logo in '75. Thanks for bringing them up.
@scotday11 күн бұрын
How about king corcoran of the Philadelphia bell threw 32 tds !! And one of the most interesting characters ever
@markgardner946011 күн бұрын
Good call - I missed featuring him, so thank you for bringing him up. He passed for over 3,500 yards in '74.
@WayneKeen3 күн бұрын
Kiick wasn't wearing down so much as he was being replaced by Mercury Morris.
@markgardner94603 күн бұрын
He only had 153 carries for the remainder of his career after the 1974 season. He had played 7 NFL seasons by the end of '74, so I think that he was winding down.
@waynejohanson10837 күн бұрын
Look at the Dolphins they lost Csonka, Kiick and Warfield. That basically ended their great 70's run.
@markgardner94607 күн бұрын
It had to negatively affect the team chemistry, not to mention the Dolphins had a drop in talent level when those three left.
@MsHornet2420 күн бұрын
The last Portland Storm picture is Ben Davidson
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
OK, thank you. My apologies. Davidson only played two months in the WFL. I'm surprised that there was any photographs of him.
@docnoc6620 күн бұрын
Wearing my 74 Sonny Jorgensen for this one …
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
That's a winner!!!
@skipwaskin501317 күн бұрын
Jurgenson.
@petercena94976 күн бұрын
One of the controversies occurred when the Philadelphia team drew 64,000 to their opener, only to discover 90% of the tickets were given away.
@markgardner94606 күн бұрын
At least they sold some additional concessions and team apparel and trinkets, but yeah, 64,000 makes a person raise their eyebrows and ask "howd they do that?"
@williamweiss61284 күн бұрын
Still have that SI issue that talks about it.....jeez, I'm old.
@keithsowder430819 күн бұрын
Great stuff ! People forget how great Warfield was...he was ALWAYS open ! The Dolphins didn't throw the ball much ( when you have Csonka, Morris and Kiick in the backfield why would you ? ) if Warfield played in THIS era he'd have averaged 100+ catches, 1,500+ yards and 15+ TD's for his career. Interesting note on John Gilliam. He scored the first TD in Saints history. He took the opening kickoff, in their opening game back for a TD....unfortunately...things went downhill FAST, for a LONG time after that !
@markgardner946019 күн бұрын
Warfield would put up numbers like Tyreek Hill, I suppose. I'd like to see today's players go up against the bump ' run defenses of Warfield's day...and have to face guys like Tatum, Atkinson, Houston, Cliff Harris, Donnie Shell and others looking to cut 'em in two. They'd have a much greater appreciation for how easy they have it.
@keithsowder430819 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460 So true, DB's could basically mug receivers back then....now if they breath hard on them...the yellow flag appears.
@markgardner946019 күн бұрын
It's a joke - all they really want is a shorter field in order to increase the chances of scoring because they want high scoring games.
@stevenzimmerman405719 күн бұрын
Call me old fashioned but I liked the old school defensive battles!
@markgardner946019 күн бұрын
I do, too, but they don't give defenses a chance nowadays.
@soulpatrolhawaii54097 күн бұрын
I saw the NFL Hawaiians play at the old Honolulu stadium, a game in which, unfortunately, Calvin Hill’s career came to an end with a knee injury 😢
@markgardner94607 күн бұрын
Hw returned to play in the NFL for several seasons, but was essentially a pass receiving specialist by then.
@soulpatrolhawaii54096 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460 Thanks, I should’ve said “season ending” injury!
@markgardner94606 күн бұрын
Thanks for the clarification.
@mastercez16 күн бұрын
Never knew Stabler signed a futures contract with WFL. That might have started the beef between him and Al Davis!
@markgardner946016 күн бұрын
Yes, I think that was definitely a point of contention between them that never really went away and Snake was traded.
@lawrencecaplan644620 күн бұрын
we had bumper stickers made up which said "Bench Csonka Kiick and Warfield!" which became very popular. However the local Miami Herald roasted us and said we werent true fans. BS! The truth was that Joe Robbie was a brutal cheapskate who wouldnt pay them anything close to what they were worth. They were actually supposed to play fif the Toronto Northmen but the CFL managed to get an injunction prevdnting the WFL from moving in.
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
Lesson: pay people what they're worth. Maybe in '75 they win it all again if they did. Thank you for providing info about the Toronto Northmen!
@michaelleroy928120 күн бұрын
So much for the Dolphins Dynasty 🐬 after Csonka Kiick and Warfield left
@michaelleroy928120 күн бұрын
@markgardner9460 Which would eventually be the Memphis Southmen they also went by the Grizzlies look at their helmets
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
None of the three former Dolphins had a good year in '75.
@stevenzimmerman405720 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460Is it possible that they were feeling remorse after leaving Miami, even if they were extremely underpaid there?And of course no Miami OL to work with!
@zcam196919 күн бұрын
Jim Kick and Ken Stabler were Party Animals .''Hell Raisers ''🍺
@markgardner946019 күн бұрын
I didn't know that about Kiick
@zcam196919 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460 Kiick drank more beer than Andre The Giant
@markgardner946019 күн бұрын
but could he drink a case of wine along with that beer?
@zcam196919 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460 Andre could drink 2 kegs of beer , in 4 hours .lol
@markgardner946019 күн бұрын
...and hold a keg in one hand...and you couldn't see the keg
@lesdavis359620 күн бұрын
Why isn’t Gary Collins in the HOF? Dude was a baller straight up!
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
To me, he is. 70 td's when he retired left him right near the top of the list - high yardage mark, too. 3 td's in '64 Title Game & game MVP should count for somethin' cuz it sure counted for Swann when he was Super Bowl X MVP.
@stevenzimmerman405719 күн бұрын
I don't understand that either!
@jeremiahrose468120 күн бұрын
Okay never saw this league, know about them from a lot of football books I read. I think I tried watching one of their games on KZfaq, it was interesting.
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
The WFL had the "2 point action" or something to that affect. I think the NFL should make the 2 point conversion mandatory. They talk about wanting all these points and action, so why not?
@jeremiahrose468119 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460 I really like what the UFL is doing 1. 2 or 3 pt conversions, no extra points
@stevenzimmerman405719 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460oh wow that totally slipped my mind! The "2 point action!" It was definitely different!
@MaxAmerica.Freedom20 күн бұрын
Not sure who financed the WFL. I liked Summer Pro football. I remember Jacksonville had full attendance at their stadium. People loved their football there. They had a cool name and logo, Sharks.
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
I read where the Sharks were second best in attendance, but that the numbers were skewed because they gave away a lot of tickets. Even so, that's a good way to market the team, in my opinion. It's better than having a bunch of empty seats - the fans would still be buying programs and concessions.
@MaxAmerica.Freedom19 күн бұрын
@markgardner9460 on TV all the seats were filled. No CGI back then. The home opener for sure.
@markgardner946019 күн бұрын
Today, Jax is near the middle of the pack in terms of average attendance - 69,000+ per game
@billywalik641120 күн бұрын
“Traded” from Orlando to Jim Garrett’s Houston team the night of John Matuszak’s WFL “debut”. Woke up the next morning to fly to Hawaii. Normally two buses are positioned outside the stadium…Rookies and Veterans. NOT this team! 3 Buses! Rookies, Veterans and OPEN BAR! Joe Robb, Don Brumn and Jim Kanicki…Bus#3! Bloody Mary’s all the way to Hawaii!
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
So you were "Traded" from the Blazers to the Texans, Billy? Gary Collins only played 3 games for the Blazers in '74. Do you remember what happened to him (retired? Injured?). I wonder how many players played in the NFL, CFL and WFL like you - can't be a real long list.
@billywalik641120 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460 My guess…more than you would think. My mentioning of Robb,Brumn and Kanicki, yes these men were at the end of their careers. However players like my New Haven friend Bob Kuziel, went on to a long NFL run post WFL. The CFL had a quota for US players then. Going from the WFL and up to Canada, now those would be in the very low numbers. What killed the WFL were these guaranteed contracts wether up front then or future signings. Honesty the League was a scam, built on the hopes of many fine players.
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
Thanks for the info. Bob Kuziel had to bide his time in Washington - Center Len Hauss started 192 consecutive games! He started every game for them from 1965 through 1977 which blows my mind - especially for a Center who only weighed 235 pounds!
@stevenzimmerman405719 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460Similar to Mick Tinglehoff...not really large but extremely durable.
@markgardner946019 күн бұрын
Hauss gave away close to 40 pounds to Bob Lilly and he played him twice every year. Yeah, Lilly was double-teamed nearly every play but still...
@jeremiahrose468120 күн бұрын
The Snake, could you imagine if he would have played for them in 76....no Raiders SB that year. I wonder by signing that future contract started the riff with Al Davis, that eventually traded him to the Oilers.
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
I think that may have been a factor, although in his autobiography, Snake states that Davis preferred strong-armed Quarterbacks...which may be why the trade was made since Pastorini clearly had the stronger arm. Also, Stabler was pestering Davis about wanting to be paid more money, which was undoubtedly another factor.
@6400az20 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460 Great point. In one of the QB challenges ( maybe 1979 }?? Both Grisee and Stabler threw it in the mid 50's. yards. Incredibly, a few years later Marino threw it only 56 , btw. Always thought Stabler was the reason it took so long for Branch to get in the HOF, with a strong arm QB his numbers would have been through the roof. For Biletnikof though, Stabler was the perfect QB.
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
I agree - Snake 'n Freddie B were a great combo - they had great timing together.
@jeremiahrose468119 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460 That 1976 Raiders team were loaded with hall of famers. For good reason.
@jeremiahrose468119 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460 True I read a Stabler book years back, paper back and it was intersting.
@Paul11B2P17 күн бұрын
🎉🎉🎉
@rdrock-vd2dw15 күн бұрын
I've never seen any footages from the WFL!?
@markgardner946015 күн бұрын
Yes, it is extremely rare. This video features the players that were signed by WFL teams.
@billbill532620 күн бұрын
I was 12 years old at the time but don’t remember the WFL. Thanks for the video
@MaxAmerica.Freedom20 күн бұрын
I always wondered if the Dolphins would've won more Super Bowls if the WFL hadn't come along. Did the WFL contribute to the Steelers winning 4 SB'S?
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
In my opinion the Dolphins may have had a better chance in 1976 than 1975 because MLB Nick Buoniconti missed the entire 1975 season with an injured thumb. I don't thank that the WFL contributed to the Steelers winning any of their Super Bowls.
@MaxAmerica.Freedom19 күн бұрын
@markgardner9460. Sarcasm. I didn't really mean the WFL actually helped the Steelers. But I bet Rooney chuckled when he heard the Dolphins lost key players. Do know who stared the WFL? Thanks for your help.
@markgardner946019 күн бұрын
Gary Davidson started the WFL. He also started basketball's ABA and hockey's WHA.
@billmalone505020 күн бұрын
You have made some truly top notch videos. But I think that you could have better indicated the subject matter in this one particular video regarding the WFL in a much better and clearer way. The majority of your stuff is great. But you have had a few lemons in there every once in awhile. I believe in what you are doing and I truly appreciate you as a pro football historian. But I am hoping that you will learn to "get to the point" quicker and not take the scenic route every so often. All things said and considered, please keep up the good, great and outstanding work. If I didn't care about your videos then I would not be so passionate about them.
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
Thank you for your take, Bill. I appreciate it!
@stevenzimmerman405720 күн бұрын
Comparing Harmon Wages to Paul Hornung? That's funny!
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
I have a sneaky suspicion that Van Brocklin had Wages wear #5 by design. I know that The Dutchman admired those old Green Bay championship teams and I think that he was hoping that Wages would become half the player that Hornung was. Dutch should have had Wages throw more often, however, as Wages was 3 of 4 for 50 yards and one touchdown during his career. He did get sacked one time, so maybe Van Brocklin said enough is enough.
@stevenzimmerman405719 күн бұрын
Yeah I forgot about him also wearing #5 he was big,blonde and a bit versatile, but nothing like Hornung!
@markgardner946019 күн бұрын
On AND off the field, I'm sure.
@moe919612 күн бұрын
i think he said the wfl lasted 5 or 6 games . So why don't we have any video or movie film of those wfl games in this video ?!
@markgardner946012 күн бұрын
The subject of the video is the players that were selected, so I aimed to show and tell what those players had accomplished. Footage of WFL games is rare and some of what exists is not in good viewing condition, so that is why there is no WFL game footage in this video.
@petercena94976 күн бұрын
The league lasted a season and a half.
@erickthefantabulous120 күн бұрын
I guess I don't have to say what you just said i was too young to understand at the time. Pittsburgh was good, but if miami stays intact, maybe they win another one, but 3 straight Super Bowl appearances. I don't think that's ever been done. Before If Jake Scott does. Not get hurt in that game. I believe they might have won. I think they're starting DB got hurt, too. That really hurt on that final drive
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
I love Jake Scott - he was a difference maker. Thank you for watching and commenting - much appreciated!
@erickthefantabulous120 күн бұрын
@markgardner9460 Yeah, i'm in Packer country, but in my preteen years, I was a dolphin fan.I saw them lose The super bowl to dallas. I said I like the team with the pretty uniforms. What else would a seven year old think? Didn't realize they would be my favorite team until the early 90s. When Green Bay came back on the scene cause I missed Lombardi's packers.
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
When The Pack signed Reggie White to that big free agent contract, that changed everything for Green Bay's fortunes. They were legitimized.
@stevenzimmerman405719 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460White and Favre turned the Cheeseheads around.
@brando726616 күн бұрын
The 1974 dolphins almost beat the raiders in Oakland, without the csonka, kick ,Warfield, and then they would have hosted the steelers next, very likely they would have won again, and beat the Vikings again,
@ronsmac17 күн бұрын
Miami was probably smart not to give Csonka,Warfield and especially Kiick big money. All 3 had seen better days and Miami actually scored more pts and had more yds in 1975 than they did in 1974.
@markgardner946016 күн бұрын
They had Don Nottingham, Norm Bulaich and Benny Malone who combined to form a formidable trio. Warfield still had gas in the tank, but he was getting on in age.
@jammininthepast19 күн бұрын
The "Waffle" or (A)WFULL league went about it all wrong. Billionaires who thought they could compete with the established NFL by "buying" talent. I remember the league being a joke....a money grab. The USFL "Useful" went about it more logically but could not compete. Although the Denver Gold actually made money (I think the only team that did). I think a "Minor League" for the NFL that played eight or ten games with free agents signed from a pool could work to develope players. The NFL made an attempt at it with NFL Europe. Oh well I never paid any attention to "all" the various leagues but I did enjoy your highlights. One of my favorites former Bengal and Eagle Bill Bergy....what a thumper. Thanks for the memories brother, you're appreciated
@markgardner946019 күн бұрын
Did the Denver Gold play at Mile High Stadium? Broncos fans sold out that stadium for many years.
@jammininthepast19 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460 yes they played @ Mile High and put mid 30k crowd in the seats.....Red Miller and Craig Morton head coaches. Curiously I didn't know anyone who went to a game....Denver was ambivalent when they showed up and couldn't care less when they folded.
@@markgardner9460No, no first Red Miller, whose volatile temper and behavior pushed (owner) Blanding to let Red go. In comes Morton and his (ala Broadway Joe) full length fur coat. By then the league was circling the drain....Denver didn't care but supported The Gold....maybe this was part of the MLB expansion decision matrix. Within 10-12 years - Colorado Rockies baseball.
@markgardner946018 күн бұрын
Ahh, got ya! I went to 2 out of a 3 game series a few years back at Coors Field. 80+ runs were scored in that series. By the end of the games there were ruts in the basepaths.
@davidpridham98596 күн бұрын
Imagine if Franco Harris, rocky blier and Lynn Swann were removed from Steelers after their 2nd SB win…..do they win two more in 78 and 79? Probably not. Who knows about the dolphins fortunes in 74 and 75 if those 3 stars did not sign with WFL….
@markgardner94606 күн бұрын
I like "what if?" scenarios - makes for intriguing conversations
@randyhanson497314 күн бұрын
The “Sea of Hands” ended the Dolphins Dynasty and was supposed to start the Raiders Dynasty but then along came the Steelers. I still believe Oakland had the better team but they seemed to catch the worst breaks when they played the Steelers in the Playoffs. The Raiders ended both the Dolphins and Steelers chances for a 3-Peat. Stabler led Oakland to 5 straight AFC championships games.
@markgardner946014 күн бұрын
In the '75 AFC Championship Game, weren't the edges of the playing field like an ice rink? That was a huge disadvantage for Branch.
@randyhanson497314 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460 Yes. They watered the field outside of the numbers. It narrowed the field which was a huge advantage for the Steelers. They feared Cliff Branch. Blount couldn’t cover him 1 on 1 but with the field narrowed he had immediate safety help. The Steelers invented the Tampa 2 defense to stop Branch in the 74 AFC Championship game. Tony Dungy was a backup CB on that team and he would later make that Defense famous in Tampa Bay.
@markgardner946014 күн бұрын
I remember hearing Pete Rozelle tell Madden that the playing conditions affected each team the same and Madden blew up cuz Branch was a big part of the vertical passing game.
@petercena94976 күн бұрын
I thought the Raiders choked in the '74 AFC championship game.
@drbonesshow120 күн бұрын
Even Vince McMahon's nuttiest notions weren't as bad as the WFL. BTW Gary Davidson is still alive at nearly 90.
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
Without a national tv contract, ya don't stand a chance, Professor.
@drbonesshow120 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460 Without research funds I don't stand a chance. Just a chance to stand.
@kingofallmediums212320 күн бұрын
His parents wanted to name him Good, but after having him they named him Fair Hooker! 😮😮😮😮😮😮😂😂😂😂😂
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
He ended up being a Wide Receiver, so it would have been cool if they named him "Button".
@stevenzimmerman405719 күн бұрын
The Browns in 74 had Fair Hooker and Jubilee Dunbar on their roster.. Colorful names!
@p47rr4 күн бұрын
What about Ben Davidson?
@markgardner94604 күн бұрын
I missed putting him in - my bad
@stevewarren481320 күн бұрын
Wonder if any of the WFL players were paid their whole contracts.
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
I think that only a small number of players were paid the entire amount owed to them. As the old saying goes, you can't get blood out of a turnip. I remember QB Steve Young talking about his $40M USFL contract. He said that he only received a small portion of the amount due him.
@stevenzimmerman405720 күн бұрын
Homer Jones was aptly named! He caught a lot of "Home run" balls from Fran Tarkenton!
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
Well stated. I thought of something while watching Homer's catches: he turned short pass patterns into long gainers, too, because defenders respected his speed so much that they gave him a big cushion. One juke or missed tackle and it's another 22 yard gainer!
@stevenzimmerman405719 күн бұрын
Jones was big, physical and fast! A nightmare for DBs
@markgardner946019 күн бұрын
He was Megatron before Megatron
@debbiehenson109620 күн бұрын
Ted kwalick was going to be a gr8 Tight End , but another career ruined by the WFL.
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
4 catches for the last 3 years of his NFL career means that you are again 100% correct.
@stevenzimmerman405719 күн бұрын
One thing I found irritating when I was younger,was the people who were bandwagon jumpers! I became a Viking fan in 1968 largely because I lived in Minot North Dakota and the Vikings were the closest thing to a hometown team . Especially kids in my school,oh my favorite team is Miami then it was Pittsburgh! Etc etc it's not a big deal now,but in those days it was annoying!
@markgardner946019 күн бұрын
Everyone likes a winner, don't they...until they no longer win. Then SOME of those fans jump ship. Hats off to those diehard fans who stick with their team in good times and bad.
@stevenzimmerman405719 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460You nailed it!
@stevenzimmerman405717 күн бұрын
" Chip"Glass 😅
@markgardner946016 күн бұрын
Rumor has it that his wife's name was Crystal.
@stevenzimmerman405716 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460 Ooh that's bad 😂😂😂
@stevenzimmerman405716 күн бұрын
Was his son named "Chip Dipper!"
@markgardner946016 күн бұрын
That may even be worse than mine, Steven. Oh well, we tried! :)
@stevenzimmerman405716 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460 I never claimed to be a poet! 😂 Awaiting your next video!
@Boomhower8920 күн бұрын
🇺🇸👍
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
Here's to old-time NFL!
@stevenzimmerman405719 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460❤
@akbarlebowitz815110 күн бұрын
I got to see the the Birmingham Americans play the Chicago Fire at Soldier Field 8-29-1974. I was 10 and don't remember much about the game except that the Fire lost 22-8. I wasn't even a football fan until two years later.
@markgardner946010 күн бұрын
Do you recall where your seats were? They had yhe 2 Point Action play. The NFL should make that mandatory - skip the extra point attempt.
@akbarlebowitz815110 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460 I think we sat 20 rows up from the field, maybe at the 50 Yard line. I actually like that the NFL gives you two choices after the TD.
@fritzpollard26617 күн бұрын
I love talking failed sports leagues and I have a huge collection of Original USFL stuff with only a couple of WFL items because they are rare and expensive. And while this is long and may only interest me I’m going to share it anyway. Both the WFL and original USFL were destroyed by different but under the circumstances correct tactical moves. The WFL moved the first game up by a year because both the NFL and CFL players were threatening to go on strike but didn’t and that year lost was to be used for multiple fan meet and greets all over the television markets of each team and season ticket sales drives helping the teams build cash reserves to help them through the inevitable financial struggles which were made worse by these idiots not instituting some sort of salary cap and then throwing money around like they were Joe Biden desperately trying to buy votes. The USFL learned from the WFL which makes sense since a couple of the WFL owners not bankrupted by it bought USFL franchises and job 1 was setting a salary cap which at $2 million a team (which included the average of long term “personal services” contracts like Steve Young’s 10 year $40 million with the LA Express)but is basically the amount of change found in between couch cushions at Patrick Mahomes house today was still considerable amount money 40 years ago. The tactical maneuver that doomed them was switching to the fall to go head to head with the NFL which is entirely blamed on Trump which is ridiculous considering the owners of the Denver Gold and Tampa Bay Bandits were the only ones making money and were the driving force behind the move but Trump agreed with it so he was the very famous face of it. The reason they made the move was because of what happened with both the ABA (which was founded by Gary Davidson who was the WFL founder as well) and AFL who went head to head with the NBA and NFL and both leagues got sick of losing players TV and gate revenue and merged and what’s also never talked about is how is the USFL announced only half the 14 teams that played in 85 were coming back in 86 and that number was very optimistic and it’s likely that only 3 would come back and surprise surprise those teams were Denver Tampa and New Jersey. If you say Denver nor Tampa can support 2 teams you’re right but both franchises would move to cities that didn’t have NFL teams with St Louis and Jacksonville Portland and Baltimore, obviously a couple of those cities had USFL but the ownership groups didn’t have the money the NFL would require and with NFL teams and not USFL teams the fan base would be larger and more likely to grow.
@markgardner946016 күн бұрын
What are some of the USFL and WFL collectibles that you have? Thank you for your comments.
@fritzpollard26616 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460 I only have programs pennants and a Blazers Helmet from the WFL USFL all pennants team coffee mugs at most programs have/had all the helmets except for Arizona Outlaws Orlando Renegades and San Antonio Gunslingers have/had jerseys from Flutie Hershel Walker New Jersey Generals Mike Rozier Pittsburgh Maulers Jim Kelly Houston Ganmblers and because I’m a Packer fan Ross Browner Houston Gamblers Mike Butler TB Bandits Chuck Fusina Bal/Phila Stars all signed except Ross Browner and my most prized items Memphis Showboats helmet game worn jersey signed by Reggie White. The had items which I now only have pictures of include Flutie Walker Kelly jerseys and all Reggie White items that were sold to help pay for college for 3 kids. I have some weird stuff like a Baltimore Claws patch given to season ticket purchaser’s for an ABA team that only played 3 exhibition games before going out of business, a lot of original CBA stuff including pennants and programs from the 2 Wisconsin teams Wisconsin Flyers and LaCrosse Catbirds and a program and pennant for the Anchorage Northern Knights the first pro sports team based in Alaska a Albany Patroons program and pennant signed by George Karl who got his start coaching them and later the Bucks, Milwaukee Mustangs AFL program and pennant signed by coach Lou Saban a cousin of Nick Saban who inexplicably took the job in spite of winning 4 championships as a player on the Cleveland Browns being a head coach at Northwestern (who hired George Steinbrenner as an assistant, for some reason) was the first coach of the Boston (now New England) Patriots won 2 AFL TITLES as coach of the Buffalo Bills. More than you wanted to know I’m sure but since we downsized after the freeloaders moved out everything is in storage so it’s a car ride to see the stuff so it was nice to talk about.
@markgardner946015 күн бұрын
WOW! That's a great list of stuff. I can really appreciate those items. Thank you for the additional info, too!!!
@stefanomagaddino686820 күн бұрын
You talk about players that the WFL took, then you show those players on the teams they USED to play for. Inane.
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
For good reason: 1. WFL footage is as rare as a $3 bill. 2. NFL footage shows the player that the WFL teams signed, so at least there is some game action shown.
@stevenzimmerman405719 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460I honestly don't understand why people don't realize that WFL footage is so hard to come by?
@markgardner946019 күн бұрын
Few games were televised and the days of the VCR's had yet to come. Footage is very rare, like you mentioned.
@SKULL-DUGGERY-219 күн бұрын
I don't watch the NFL anymore but God I hated the WFL and USFL. Spoilers!
@mikemulrennan79488 күн бұрын
Robbie was a cheap ass
@billmalone505020 күн бұрын
This video is too convoluted and superfluous. I didn't even make it halfway through before I got too frustrated and impatient with this video. GET TO THE BLEEPING POINT !!!!! You indicated a video about the 1974 WFL season and instead presented a video of 1973 NFL highlights. I appreciate your creative efforts. But I hope that you will improve the quality of your videos. Good luck to you in all of your future creative endeavors.
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
I think that you misinterpreted the subject matter, Bill. The title in no way was indicative of one that would feature 1974 WFL highlights. The video clearly indicates that the video is about player signings. If you had a problem figuring that out, then that's your issue. My videos are top notch!
@stevenzimmerman405720 күн бұрын
I think that it would have been extremely difficult to get WFL footage even if you wanted to do so! Love seeing the old helmets!. Detroit Wheels playing in.Rynearson Stadium ( home of Eastern Michigan).were probably the most dysfunctional team!.1-13 had low attendance only 3 televised games poor ownership (. other than that they were pretty good ha ha ha!)
@markgardner946020 күн бұрын
I really like the Wheels logo, although I think it should have been larger. The Sun's uniform color scheme was a bit too much. I liked the Storm's logo
@MaxAmerica.Freedom20 күн бұрын
The most obtuse comment I've ever read on this channel. Must be Tom Brady with nothing to do taking antidepressants.
@MaxAmerica.Freedom20 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460don't baby Brady this kid! Delete and block him for all his puny short life.
@pbberkstresser780319 күн бұрын
my bad I thought this was a video about the wfl not the Miami dolphin highlight reel...
@markgardner946019 күн бұрын
While there is Dolphin footage, there is also Vikings, Cowboys, Giants, Browns, Bengals, Jets and Chiefs depicted.
@stevenzimmerman405719 күн бұрын
More Dolphins footage because they had the most key players taken.