The One You've Been Waiting For | DS9's ep 6.19, "In the Pale Moonlight" | T7R

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2 жыл бұрын

Cirroc Lofton (Jake Sisko in Star Trek Deep Space Nine) and Ryan T. Husk review DS9's season 6, episode 19, "In the Pale Moonlight."
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The One You've Been Waiting For | DS9's ep 6.19, "In the Pale Moonlight" | T7R #159

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@The7thRule
@The7thRule 2 жыл бұрын
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@klyanadkmorr
@klyanadkmorr 2 жыл бұрын
Ryan T said exactly what I have always felt was truth=LIES about Garak's so called Cardassian connections. They were just a fake lie of innocent lives to further GUILT Sisko into damn the consequences innocents war casualties make this plan happen.
@mwallacejam
@mwallacejam Жыл бұрын
I wrote a song about this episode kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aLCmn6Zn07OqoIU.html
@NeilBlumengarten
@NeilBlumengarten 2 жыл бұрын
Only DS9 could have told this episode and we're lucky they did!
@robertgates5138
@robertgates5138 2 жыл бұрын
I always saw this episode as a evolution of the Sisko character from the earlier seasons with his loyalty and honor being questioned when dealing with the maque and the traitors to starfleet to the path he goes down in this episode was always fascinating to me.
@The7thRule
@The7thRule 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely.
@metsrus
@metsrus 23 күн бұрын
My take is that Sisko never forgave himself for what the war has turned him into. In a pale moonlight, he said he can live with it, but how many times do we lie to ourselves to keep us going, at least for our loved ones. However, any chance at ending his own existence, he was gonna take it, especially one that is heroic and can benefit others. That's why Sisko didn't even have a second thought pushing Dukat and himself into the fire pit.
@eveengland8167
@eveengland8167 2 жыл бұрын
I know I say this every time, but this really was an excellent snippet of what’s to come on the main review! Can’t wait to hear more from Ryan and Cirroc! Such an epic episode!
@The7thRule
@The7thRule 2 жыл бұрын
Say it as much as you'd like - we love it!!
@mafnoor
@mafnoor 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent discussion of one of the best episodes in all of the Star Trek universe! Loved seeing Cirroc's excitement about it all, too. Thanks much, @The 7th Rule !
@KimberSpores
@KimberSpores 2 жыл бұрын
This is by far one of my favorite episodes of DS9, it was so well written and the acting was phenomenal!
@peterh.9961
@peterh.9961 2 жыл бұрын
This is my #1 favorite DS9 episode - one of the best hours of Star Trek.
@The7thRule
@The7thRule 2 жыл бұрын
100!
@mwallacejam
@mwallacejam Жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aLCmn6Zn07OqoIU.html a song I wrote about this episode
@mikethecanuck
@mikethecanuck 2 жыл бұрын
Best episode of DS9… hands down.
@Kat-DS9
@Kat-DS9 2 жыл бұрын
A great episode for both the Sisko and Garak's characters and both actors.
@josephdahan4145
@josephdahan4145 2 жыл бұрын
hands down best episode in star trek history
@MedalionDS9
@MedalionDS9 2 жыл бұрын
Morn is the key to all this... In the Pale Mornlight
@chonconnor6144
@chonconnor6144 2 жыл бұрын
Morn has a posse.
@MedalionDS9
@MedalionDS9 2 жыл бұрын
Garak was on fire in this ep as much as Sisko... some of the best of Garak's resourcefulness and his dark side to help the good cause
@JosephAlanMeador
@JosephAlanMeador 2 жыл бұрын
Personal favorite. Without a doubt one of if not THE best episode of Trek. "It's a FAAAAAKE!"
@deathmachine808
@deathmachine808 2 жыл бұрын
Just top performances all round, Avery Brooks absolutely on fire, Garak at his duplicitous best, Everyone knows how good this is so I don’t need to go into it. Computer, delete that entire entry.
@Kat-DS9
@Kat-DS9 2 жыл бұрын
One of THE best episodes! Where do you begin??
@louisea966
@louisea966 2 жыл бұрын
such an awesome ep. and my fave DS9 ep
@MedalionDS9
@MedalionDS9 2 жыл бұрын
The ironic thing about Sisko giving Bashir permission to hand over biogenic materials to make a potential biogenic weapon is not new territory for Sisko... the only other ep more dark than this one for Sisko was when he unleashed Trilithium torpedoes into an atmosphere of a planet that contained Humans and Maquis living on the Planet, to get Eddington to give himself up and stop the Maquis once and for all
@klyanadkmorr
@klyanadkmorr 2 жыл бұрын
The rebels themselves RELEASED BIO WEAPONS TO GET OF THE CARDASSIANS WITH NO WARNING LIKE SISKO gave them.
@MedalionDS9
@MedalionDS9 2 жыл бұрын
@@klyanadkmorr Yes, but does that warrant the same thing being done to them? SIsko destroyed the entire ecosphere of a planet and may have killed a bunch of people who may not have gotten out in time of his attacks... that is not an appropriate response from a Starfleet Captain, let alone righteous Human being.
@klyanadkmorr
@klyanadkmorr 2 жыл бұрын
@@MedalionDS9 ​ Canon Sisko KILLED NO ONE but made the planet they stole from the Cardassians as unliveable as the one THEY poisoned & KILLED thousands. You and those trying to equate what Sisko did to force their hand to STOPPING being killers as a moral dilemma is a joke and sadly misplaced and only done to judge and make a black capt somehow not Picard perfect white guy. Sisko leaving the situation is WHAT? A fantasy high minded those terrorist left alone and not stopped as the ethical choice? You saying what Sisko did as being bad is non sense as they chose to live and move into regions known to be in conflict with the Federation. The Federation was GIVING THEM planets to move to.
@MedalionDS9
@MedalionDS9 2 жыл бұрын
@@klyanadkmorr Starfleet would never authorize or condone the use of that kind of Force to make planets uninhabitable of another Sovereign power, even for terrorists, by using Biogenic weapons to get their point across ever. It is absolutely dark as fuck, and the fact it was never truly addressed after all that is a glaring omission in an otherwise fantastic show, and your reasoning thus far, has not changed my mind on that. And the fact you had to jump to playing it about race about a Black Captain vs a white Captain Picard is HILARIOUS because of the times we live in...everything is turned into a race debate, when I never brought up his race once in my discussion... you don't know anything about my views or my fave characters... you are jumping to conclusions in some weird way to shut down conversation like everything else has been about in popular media for the past 10-15 years. It won't work on me my friend because you are picking at bad faith arguments. I am condemning the action, not the character... I love Sisko and DS9, they are my fave Trek and Captain respectively. Learn to argue your points better than going for weird reach arguments.
@melcedro8373
@melcedro8373 2 жыл бұрын
You couldn't have chosen a better title for this one!
@blueray15
@blueray15 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I was wondering where it was at noon...
@The7thRule
@The7thRule 2 жыл бұрын
Daylight savings somehow slowed us three hours instead of one. How is that possible?
@MedalionDS9
@MedalionDS9 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the Shout Out at the top for THE big ep :)
@montanawardog
@montanawardog 2 жыл бұрын
Agree with @Eve England, this was a fantastic teaser episode and I'm looking forward to watching the Patreon cut later today. Cirroc's enthusiasm for this one was awesome to see and the lines kept coming! ONE LOVE #ChatPack.
@Frisael
@Frisael 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic episode.
@chrismanson3211
@chrismanson3211 2 жыл бұрын
IT'S A FAAAKKKKEEEE. I agree with Ryan, big as KHAANNNN. Glad Garak had a backup plan.
@d33846
@d33846 2 жыл бұрын
Love this and love you guys for doing these. DS9 is my favorite series of all times (up there with Deadwood as #2).
@chucka.3520
@chucka.3520 2 жыл бұрын
This episode and review is not a "faaaaaaakkkkkkeeeee"
@d.j.el-magnifico3511
@d.j.el-magnifico3511 2 жыл бұрын
22:17 a very Ferengi line, spoken by a former Cardassian Spy..... Garak should run Quark's bar when Quark is out of the Station.
@chucka.3520
@chucka.3520 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best Deep Space 9 episodes ever. Great Review. The 7th Rule.
@noneed4me2n7
@noneed4me2n7 Жыл бұрын
Probably one of my favorite episodes of Star Trek ever. Was given a chance in the early 2000s to see him (Avery Brooks) live at a convention and it was a memorable experience. Always enjoy people discussing this episode. Andrew Robinson is one of my favorite character actors and his presence is always a plus.
@mattyh2464
@mattyh2464 7 ай бұрын
This is not only my favorite episode of Star Trek ever, its my favorite episode of television ever
@tomr7709
@tomr7709 6 ай бұрын
This episode is in the top five of all Star Trek episodes. Every scene in the episode is a masterpiece.
@chillryan
@chillryan 2 жыл бұрын
This is by far one of the best episodes of not only DS9 but the entire Star Trek universe. The reason I love it, it successfully brings the question what is the cost of morality for humanity.
@annmarie6985
@annmarie6985 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!!!!!
@jazztec4255
@jazztec4255 2 жыл бұрын
If you guys could do an episode where you can get ISB, Rob wolf, Andy Robinson or the writer or director of this episode and do a interview with them that would be great
@EbefrenRevo
@EbefrenRevo 3 ай бұрын
As someone in the series said about the war "Silent enim leges inter arma" .
@ThomasBrandoGreenman
@ThomasBrandoGreenman 2 жыл бұрын
Sisko one of the best father role models ever
@bluet6898
@bluet6898 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite episode, guess it shows the behind the scenes workings of war.
@Lobsterwithinternet
@Lobsterwithinternet 8 ай бұрын
“It’s easy to be a saint in paradise!”
@silikon2
@silikon2 Ай бұрын
Having the Dominion invade Betazed was a master stroke. Everybody that watched this after TNG had positive or negative impressions of the Trois, but you darn knew about the planet and how horrific this was. I read some in the production wanted it to be Vulcan, but others said it would be too far, and I agree. Had the Dominion taken Vulcan, Starfleet would have certainly fallen back to protect the most core Federation worlds.
@w41duvernay
@w41duvernay Жыл бұрын
"HERE'S one for the good guys..." this episode was the bomb.
@Dragonangel426
@Dragonangel426 9 ай бұрын
I love this episode, because I can live with it.
@BreakingArt1
@BreakingArt1 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best. Great podcast
@MAZE4
@MAZE4 8 ай бұрын
This episode is majestic, Kubrick, and Hitchcock would have been proud of it.
@mikechandler8608
@mikechandler8608 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my god! !
@michaelmcdonald5154
@michaelmcdonald5154 Ай бұрын
I really enjoyed this.
@s.henrlllpoklookout5069
@s.henrlllpoklookout5069 5 ай бұрын
Another possible Garak lie: he had the data rod the whole time & used the bio-mimetic gel to blow up Vreenak's shuttle himself
@GeordiLaForgery
@GeordiLaForgery 2 жыл бұрын
I remember being disappointed Sisko betrayed starfleet's moral and ethical standards but it was very entertaining! 👍🖖
@spencerbissett3417
@spencerbissett3417 Жыл бұрын
Cirroc clearly doesn't give a shit. He knows as much about the plot as I do.
@MAZE4
@MAZE4 8 ай бұрын
This was realistic, to save the alpha quadrant, and the Romulans aswell, they had to be brought into the war, it was the other great power that made a difference.
@patricialangenakker5870
@patricialangenakker5870 2 жыл бұрын
So relevant given the war in Ukraine.
@DennisMay-vf9vi
@DennisMay-vf9vi 5 ай бұрын
Deep space nine is best of star trek series
@esecallum
@esecallum 2 жыл бұрын
see the data stick here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pZeZdriinN3LpIk.html 1:35
@antondavidoff150
@antondavidoff150 10 ай бұрын
I watched them all DS9 is the best of all the Series and "In the Pale Moonlight" is Top 5
@antondavidoff150
@antondavidoff150 10 ай бұрын
15:20 it is Bio Memetic Gel bro ! (not bio genetic) i still remember this after so many years.. i feel like boasting
@eveengland8167
@eveengland8167 2 жыл бұрын
I know I say this every time, but this really was an excellent snippet of what’s to come on the main review! Can’t wait to hear more from Ryan and Cirroc! Such an epic episode!
@The7thRule
@The7thRule 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes, you even say it twice for one episode! ;)
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