His only remaining eye at that.

Seems fair to me.

The Orville has evolved from a send up into a programme that is currently better than both of its predecessors. Strong female characters, the trans argument, slavery...The Orville has done it with sensitivity and realism and not.one.hint of 'woke'.

​@@vidyajamesu "an eye for an eye" as they say, except this time... He couldn't afford the cost of his actions 😅

@@janesgems7 they were able to present realistic arguments not filtered through the right or left but mirrored what happens in life

Me: Here fuck him up with this *passes metal chair*

Same 😂

Kelly: Commander no! Inner Bortus: Commander YES!

Same every time I see this clip I get hype

Should have at least shoved the stick down his mouth to test if he can eat the pain.

Hell hath no fury like a father's wrath.

As a father, I would have done the same thing.

Speaking as a father of 5 girls and 2 boys I endorse this message. I have 1 rule, whatever harm you do them I return 10 times over.

Your kids must sleep well, knowing their dad will slay any monster that might hurt them.

I'd want to do the same, but I'm not sure I could manage that charging throw into the ceiling.

He actually reminds me of my dad. Even in his sixties he actually ran after a car full of silly students who threw water in my face whilst walking through a town on holiday. Love you dad you will always be my hero.

he was running on dad rage. pretty sure he'd have taken a canon shot and gptten back up

You forgot to mention he permanently disfigured a man for his daughter.

The fact its made to brutally harm moclans as show and bortus just looks like did you just taze me now your extra dead scares me a bit felt like he would take a rifle shot to the head and still keep going at you

Damn you was spittin lol

At least Bortus still followed Kelly's order and let go of the Inquisitor. Had he fought against Worf, he wouldn't stand any chances (RIP Duras)

@@LGranthamsHeir BIH Duras 😂

Did he actually say that?

I father will sacrifice far more, endure far more and deal more pain than any angry scorned woman if you hurt someone he really loves.

Full saying: "Heaven have no hatred like love to hatred turned nor Hell a Fury like a woman scorned."

The saying is about when a women is wronged. When it comes to children however both genders can be absolutely montrously terrifying with how much rage courses through their veins. Though when it comes to brute strength men usually win hands down because evolution.

@@RealengoPrimordialDemon na both are equal no need to make it a completion

@@petersturmey4868 I know both can love equally but a real father will do far more than the mother could physically, many do regularly but never get credited.

Not only that he used the same staff the one-eyed guy used to torture topa and took his remaining eye

Very satisfying moment too within the context. .

The Orville started as a comedy, then evolved into one of the finest tv shows around...it took major themes and confronted them without fear. It is everything Star Wars once was...and sadly now isn't.

He heard the cries of his daughter, that triggered him. Like it would any father.

bruh i believe comedy usually ends up becoming realism-comedy or something, cuz most comedy turn into a bloody underated stuff

I first got my dad to watch it by explaining, "It's like Star Trek, if regular blue collar shlubs were in Starfleet." The show defenetly didn't disappoint with its characters.

Nothing Bortus did here was brutal or cruel.

@@Maplecook Given that they tortured her for information, honestly, it would be practical to kill both of the torturers in the room. That way the information cannot be leaked out. It might have well provoked war with Moclus but then again it was inevitable given their actions.

Even she knows that a father's love knows no bounds

@@MaplecookIt was brutal. That was the point. A shock stick to the eye is definitely brutal. But completely warranted. Bortus was justified.

It felt more like she told him to stand down to rush Topa out more than she is concerned for him being violent. But Topa is also the reason she doesn't make it an order until she did, bortus deserved the time he got with her torturer

Worf and Teal'c? You sir are man of culture

THIS!💯

Take some notes, Worf.

​@@Some_Idiot_on_the_Internet Indeed

Ronan Dex "Honestly probably should have killed the bastard, but points for effort."

He's both. Which makes him even more formidable.

Worf would've done the same had Alexander been kidnapped. Likely worse, because he killed Duras when his beloved (K'Elmyr) was killed by the latter🙄

My dad would probably have ript his head of. Never mess whit a mans littel girl if you valu youre helth. He probably didnt know that ore he has a deth wish

Hell hath no fury, like a father's wrath.

I said similar. He was not a Union LTC. He was a father who was not going to just let the person who hurt is daughter just get to walk away. When I first saw this, I was like, Bortus, there is no way you just walk away and not make that bastard pay.

Good point of that! I already agree, elsewhere here. So one more agreement will not hurt.

Pretty much any real parent defending or avenging their child is a force that no one in their right mind would seek to face.

i think you mean short term health

@@Lojak2501 Yeah, fair point there 😀

@@Lojak2501 What health? Bortus will terminate your free trial of life.

Damn right.

it is the duty and instinct of any parent to protect children and their own no matter what

Actually I believe that it was in the same eye that had been destroyed before. So whilst Bortus was willing to do considerable amount of damage to the interrogator. It might have been damaging and causing equal pain to him. But it was proportional. Bortus might have considered doing as was described by someone else. And take out the other eye. Doing significant amount of damage to the same area where the eye had been lost. Would have done hefty damage to the front parital lobes. Thus Bortus certainly would have inflicted it. As a clear warning to the Moclan Government. But wouldn't have taken it further. Proportional damage... Yes! Dis-proportionate.. No!!

Worf would've done the same had Alexander been kidnapped. Likely worse, because he killed Duras when his beloved (K'Elmyr) was killed by the latter 😉

Honestly I would’ve just let Bordis do what he did , he was entitled that beat down

Agreed. He really wanted to kill that guy. Only his sense of duty, both as an officer and a parent, stops him. I think if Kelly wasn't there, Bortus would have killed the Inquisitior.

@@jamesspring4610 If Kelly wasn't there Bortus would have taken his time and done it properly.

@@hagamapama True. 👍

@@jamesspring4610 Exactly. He would've done the same to the Inquisitor just like Worf did to Duras and Gowron

He was barely doing so. Kelly knew that she had to give the orders to stop immediately, becuz that was no longer an officer out on a mission, but a pissed off parent out to avenge his kid's mistreatment, which would mean that Bortus would have been perfectly fine with killing the guy.

I love that from the book. I say it so often, you do not fuck with a father's daughter.

Note: No One in the supernatural world has voluntarily targeted Dresden's daughter since.

​@danielhaire6677 I mean after hearing that, its like pissing off john wick: you dont or youre dead

I like how the Mocclans and the Krill basically started by splitting the Klingons into two races, but they really did come into their own.

@@BlazingOwnager IMO The Krill seems to have a militaristic, xenophobic culture of the Romulans, and a fanatic religious obedience like the Dominion (Jem'Hadar).

@@LGranthamsHeir I may be reaching here, but I always felt their ships were very Kilrathi from Wing Commander. In particular their fighters.

Duras does not deserve to rest in peace. He can rot.

@@jaywalkersunite To be fair Gowron is also cunning and evil like Duras as well.

That whimper at the end is the man's mind going pop like a balloon

I'm sure they could fix it. The regrew a leg in a couple of hours after a certain prank was enacted.

I mean they couldnt fix his other eye​@@peytonmac1131

You saw nothing. And after that, neither did the torturer.

I think Kelly 'didn't see anything' too.

Exactly! Just about anyone here would be like: "Hey Bortus, I'm not gonna see anything for the next...30 seconds? ... why don't we wait right here until that clears up?"

“Who’s car are we taking?”

So lets him live to take the information he tortured from a child to use to kill and torture others. No, not killing him was for her comfort, but not morally sound.

He got the painstick in the eye. I'm not sure he's going to recall much of the information he extracted to be honest. Unless he recorded it somewhere. I get the impression that he's got some serious trauma to recover from before he's useful to anyone@@mpmansell

@@mpmansellit was because they were still a union member, if she allowed it then they would have a foothold against them and could pretend they were being framed. Leaving people alive and only taking what they came for is what gave them more credibility at the union assembly because they could show the moclan lies and that they weren’t the initial aggressors

Eldritch being: But I'm going to enjoy this. *manifests a bowl of popcorn*

"When I am finished with you, death will be a mercy. Sadly for you, I will grant you no such mercy." Can't remember where I heard this but I think it fits here.

Agreed. And cover her ears. She doesn't need to hear it, either.

Awesome man 🎉🎉

At least Bortus still followed Kelly's order and let go of the Inquisitor. With Worf, he wouldn't stand any chances (RIP Duras) 😒🙄

Amos approves!

My mother went into what she called a red rage, she had no memory of ripping the screen door off its hinges to use as a weapon on the woman who tried to harm my sister.

Hard disagree. Kelly's unwillingness to put him down exposed the female Mocclan's frequencies, intelligence network and sympathizer who was helping getting girls off the planet. Putting him down would have saved countless lives. The high ground cost many innocents lives and it would not surprise me in the slightest if there's a season 4 that this comes around to be a plot point.

@@BlazingOwnager To quote Ed in this situation. 'Do not advertise tactical opportunism as pious morality!' Just how many times has such rhetoric been brought up in whatever situation when the other side seems to gain an advantage of some kind? hell, in case you've forgotten, such exploitation of tactical opportunism was what got them all in that mess in the first place, with Heveena enlisting Topa's help despite such a motion being apparently ethically unsound. that same adherence to tactical opportunism would have easily led her to leave Topa to her own device, denying everything before the council, & there wouldn't have been the expulsion of Moclus that followed. the colony also wouldn't have been recognized as a sovereign state by the Union & placed under Union protection. One could only call one's core values as core values when one is ready to defend & adhere to such values even in adversity. if one were to be so ready to exploit any kind of tactical opportunity without regard for one's values, again in Ed's words, 'what exactly are we defending?' sure, such a course of action would come with the probability of undesirable consequences, but there wouldn't be a Planetary Union in the first place, when one's so ready to kill just because not doing so comes with the risk of losing one's standing in anything, would it now? Furthermore, although Kelly & Ed are personally supportive of Heveena's revolution, her fight ultimately is hers & her colony's, NOT the Union's. to so readily seize a tactical advantage at the expense of the values that one & one's organization hold for someone else's fight, would not only reflect badly on Kelly's professionalism, but also what the Planetary Union embodies. & finally, those who're involved in such clandestine operations, Heveena especially, ain't stupid. she, & by extension, her people, would immediately know that their operation was compromised the second she realized that Topa was taken by the Moclan black-ops. countermeasures of any kind would have been employed before word got out of the mouth of the damned inquisitor, & their tracks would have already been covered by the time the Moclans looked into it. killing the inquisitor would, as such, be ENTIRELY UNNECESSARY. sure, it would slow their operation somewhat & cause fewer females to be saved in time, but Heveena would be the one to be blamed for her callousness & desperation, NOT Kelly or the Planetary Union in general.

@@FalconWindblader I never said it was moral. But sometimes the right thing to is the wrong thing to do, and this is one of those times.

@@BlazingOwnager Clearly you didn't finish reading what i wrote. what you said Kelly should do is again i stress, ENTIRELY UNNECESSARY, so short answer, NO, this AIN'T one of those times. hell, even the eradication of the Kaylon would be more compelling than Kelly letting Bortus kill the inquisitor, despite the fact that it's genocide vs killing just one guy, if for nothing else than the very utilitarian point of the chances of the Kaylon eventually learning enough about the weapon & defending against it, thus biting the Union back big time, being FAR HIGHER than the chances of the Moclan government being able to make good use of what that inquisitor managed to pry out of Topa.

Actually she didn't They were rescuing a victim from interrogation and didn't know what information had been divulged. The sensible thing to do would be to kill both in order to save other lives and reduce the risk of information getting out. Not doing so could/would/did cost lives and, let's face it, the evidence to morally justify such an execution was bleeding in her arms.

At least Bortus still followed Kelly's order and let go of the Inquisitor. Had he fought against Worf, he wouldn't stand any chances (RIP Duras)

Just ask Worf when he killed Duras after the latter killed K'Elmyr.

Said it before and will say it again, had he finished the job he'd saved a lot of lives. Kelly was wrong to stop him.

And could be said justified in this particular case

Revenge is wrong, but this is not revenge, not entirely. Get in, get the girl, get out, but letting this monster walk out free to raise the alarm? Nope, this is justice.

At least should have cut off his tongue and crippled his fingers, so that he can’t communicate

It's possible that the stun gun fried his brain though, but yah, I would have killed him

Mike was right. You put a mad dog down.

No, that device causes neurological damage and it was put right into his good eye. I think it’s safe to assume that he won’t remember much of anything after this.

Good point !@@Slopmaster

Death would be a release from his punishment. Now he has to live blind and in possible pain from the neural damage of that shock stick activated that close to his brain. I think its a safe bet that the spy's name has been pretty well scrambled.

Death would be a release from his punishment. Now he has to live blind and in possible pain from the neural damage of that shock stick activated that close to his brain. I think its a safe bet that the spy's name has been pretty well scrambled.