The Others Will Steal Jon's Body (Winds of Winter Theory)

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David Lightbringer

David Lightbringer

Күн бұрын

Jon is dead, as of the last pages of A Song of Ice and Fire, and though we all expect his inevitable resurrection will be gnarlier than on the show, but just how much gnarlier? Perhaps, very.
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@g_wylde
@g_wylde 3 жыл бұрын
I think Coldhands managed to stay 'himself' after being wighted because he was a skinchanger. His consciousness survived inside his Elk just long enough that he could hop back into his own body when it was re-animated. If that sets the precedent, then Jon could be wighted but get his own consciousness back from Ghost, leaving him a free-thinking wight who would be invulnerable to winter and the Others but still capable to take the post of King of Winter.
@nexus6163
@nexus6163 Жыл бұрын
Maybe as long as he’s connected to ghost he can’t die. BUT we saw a warg before earlier in the story and he died.
@RangerofWallachia
@RangerofWallachia Жыл бұрын
@@nexus6163 Varamyr? Is Varamyr really dead didnt he escape in his wolf body?
@happybee7725
@happybee7725 Жыл бұрын
Your names “Beers” ? Thats weird my second name is just straight up “Beer”.
@The_lord_666
@The_lord_666 Жыл бұрын
@@RangerofWallachia nay not Varymr, I believe nexus may be talking about Orell. He was running around with Mance Rayder group while Jon was fucking Ygritte
@AveTrueToCaesar8212
@AveTrueToCaesar8212 11 ай бұрын
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@johnnysmall
@johnnysmall 3 жыл бұрын
Random thought: an upgrade from “Lord Snow” would essentially be “King Ice”
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
"King Ice," I love it. Cue the Vanilla Ice!
@PP-kx9ec
@PP-kx9ec 3 жыл бұрын
"King Winter" maybe? Since there is winterfell I thought
@ProfessorArgus
@ProfessorArgus 3 жыл бұрын
Or...King Cold.
@fenzelian
@fenzelian 3 жыл бұрын
A downgrade of “Lord Snow” would be “Mister Freeze”
@PP-kx9ec
@PP-kx9ec 3 жыл бұрын
Captain cold
@careybrooks3072
@careybrooks3072 3 жыл бұрын
"A villian is a hero of the OTHER side." -GRRM
@gurumencotti
@gurumencotti 3 жыл бұрын
I also love the fact that in the stark family, Jon is the other. He is part of the family but not entirely. He isn’t the full brother of the other stark children
@ericvulgate
@ericvulgate 3 жыл бұрын
you don't say
@TGBGameplay
@TGBGameplay 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing
@ldariusd21
@ldariusd21 3 жыл бұрын
George said that about both Ghost and Jon and said they're both the odd one out but both are siblings to their brothers and sisters which also made me think Jon is really Ned's son because we know how cryptic George can be when he doesn't want to answer a question that could spoil or give something away. Ned was saddened that Jon wouldn't want be able to get a pup and finds it strange when he calls him Lord Stark instead of father.
@hiddendagger7291
@hiddendagger7291 3 жыл бұрын
there are enough references in books that jon might end up ned's son a real son not bastard
@ldariusd21
@ldariusd21 3 жыл бұрын
@@hiddendagger7291 it really is! Finally somebody who really pay attention to the books instead of looking for evidence on him being r+l=J. Because he's definitely not Rhaegar's son and people should understand that from the first book. When he says he haven't thought about the man in years lol but how when his son is with u all the time? Because that's not his damn son! And George even said himself that before the show he was aware of the biggest theories and that the most popular one is wrong smh his wife even said he wouldn't do something so simple and cliché.
@jschoma11
@jschoma11 3 жыл бұрын
LmL, dont abandon your post. You're the last content creator with things left to say. Much love brother
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
I gotcha brother !
@Twxvkvr
@Twxvkvr 3 жыл бұрын
Well yes, but no. I luv this guys videos, but Alt Shift X still uploads great theories and stories about ASOIAF. I recommend you and anyone else to go watch rm
@Bukejuice22
@Bukejuice22 2 жыл бұрын
@@Twxvkvr indeepgeek posts good stuff too.
@Twxvkvr
@Twxvkvr 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bukejuice22 will watch him, thnx
@ceilingfanenthusiast6041
@ceilingfanenthusiast6041 2 жыл бұрын
Literally every cooky asoiaf youtube channel gets the same comments lol. Order of the Greenhand, Preston Jacobs, The Disputed Lands, Secrets of the Citadel, Talking Thrones, Joe Magician and on and on. On top of that, all of them spot "symbols and clues hiding in plain sight" and yet all of them draw different conclusions. A great example is the complete lack of consensus on the parenthood/childhood of Jon, Danaerys and young Griff. Each channel has absolute belief in their own theory but think that R+L=J or N +A =J or B+ A =J or Hotpie +Lommie =J is nonsense. I've watched so much Order of the Greenhand. I've watched so much Preston Jacobs. And I've watched a smattering of the other channels I mentioned. The only credible channel imo is Alt Shift X. Alt Shift covers the basic theories. I think the theoried he covers are the obviously true ones. All the other channels think they're "too obvious" and trust in the genius of George. They think that because Euron talks about praying against the crabs in his belly, he has a psychic link with Hoster Tully or that because two characters say the same phrase theyre the same person (Arthur Dayne is Mance, Ashara Dayne is Septon Lemore etc etc etc). The theories don't stop. All have equally tenuous evidence and only one interpretation can be right.
@LNGD_46
@LNGD_46 3 жыл бұрын
Melissandre might get a heart attack watching this video....all that azor ahai shit actually meant to bring the long night.😂😭😂😭
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
That heart attack is coming for her one way or the other ;)
@gagstersps3
@gagstersps3 3 жыл бұрын
@@DavidLightbringer probably the "other" way ;)
@thelaughingstormbornagain1297
@thelaughingstormbornagain1297 3 жыл бұрын
I think Martin has created characters that'll stand the test of time. Like Batman , Bilbo and Darth Vader. Jon Snow is a character that people will look back on forever.
@TriflingWhiteBoy
@TriflingWhiteBoy Жыл бұрын
Fax
@arkhamsquire4503
@arkhamsquire4503 Жыл бұрын
I feel like the legacy of game of thrones hangs on the thread of Martin finishing the books. He'll definitely finish the Winds Of Winter and I want to hope he'll finish A Dream Of Spring atleast 6 years after Winds.
@SherlockHolmesb-kp4ru
@SherlockHolmesb-kp4ru 8 ай бұрын
​@@arkhamsquire4503It is questionable that he would even that long . He is not the most cautious of individuals that do whatever they can for their bodily health . In the next 4-5 years , the winds of winter will be released and hopefully nothing will happen to george in that time . But the dream of spring will remain a dream like its name , I don't see george living that long .
@stewiebalew6446
@stewiebalew6446 5 ай бұрын
I think Kit Harrington cemented that. He did a really good job with what he was given.
@lrlavalais2068
@lrlavalais2068 5 ай бұрын
​@@stewiebalew6446He did indeed!
@joejejeo
@joejejeo 3 жыл бұрын
Also interesting how these symbolic "others" pledge themselves to Lord Crow and not the Nights Watch, he is their King already, besides probably being King in the North as per Robbs will. Awesome vid, thanks LmL.
@isaacsanford6340
@isaacsanford6340 3 жыл бұрын
An important detail because it undermines the solidity of the Night's Watch in a castle full of wildlings whose king was just murdered by who? Buncha crows.
@Cissablack708
@Cissablack708 3 жыл бұрын
Joe magician's "killing of a ranger" video actually kind of confirms a core bit of your theory. It's a very good and interesting video. It shows how the very first chapter of A song of Ice and Fire was The Other's setting a trap for Ser Waymar Royce because they thought he was a Stark and they're waiting for a Stark of a certain age to come to them with certain qualities that very much make it seem as if the Others do have their own kind of prophecy. A Azor Ahai of their own that they're waiting to save them or even doom them. I think Azor Ahai and The Last Hero are two sides of the same coin. A foil for the other and evenly matched in different ways. Love the video. I truly think you're on to something here.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I actually was on the follow up livestream to that video, back when we were friends. It’s a strong theory and I discussed my take on the prologue in the A New Nights King video and an older one called We Should Start Back: AGOT Prologue
@bullwerethepurple9042
@bullwerethepurple9042 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my, Jon ressurected in a flurry of snow, as Dany was ressurected in a flurry of ashes. My parallelitis is flaring up something awful - your stuff just gets better and better, LmL 🤩
@poseidonc1259
@poseidonc1259 3 жыл бұрын
I think Jon Snow met ‘Cold-Hands’ without realizing it in ‘A Clash of Kings’ - Jon IV (Chapter 34). Jon Snow walked past a hooded Man, who was garbed in the blacks of The Night’s Watch, as he followed his Direwolf, Ghost, to the RECENTLY buried cloak with all of the Obsidian/Frozen-Fire/Dragon-Glass &, don’t forget, the mysterious “broken” Black Horn (potentially The Horn of Winter). This man is supposedly one of the Watchmen guarding the perimeter of The Fist of The First Men, & it is said that he “never even looked to see if Jon had a bucket.” Ghost behaved strangely, disregarding Jon consistently & then led him to the hidden cache of ancient weaponry which Jon remarks must have been placed there recently.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
Wow that’s wild! I’ll have to reread that part
@poseidonc1259
@poseidonc1259 3 жыл бұрын
@@DavidLightbringer it is near the 3/4 mark of the chapter. There is also a ton of Children of The Forest/Forest Spirit/Living Tree imagery going on during that chapter that put me in mind of Bloodraven as well. So because of that I was on high alert for any other information of significance. Dywin smelled “Cold” as well, yet no ambush from dead Wights nor The Others occurred during that night. Maybe Dywin was smelling Cold-Hands specifically? There is not much stated about the Watchman in that moment, but it is said that he called out a challenge. Jon stepped into the torchlight & said he needed to fetch water for the Lord Commander [Jeor Mormont]. Jon saw the man huddled beneath his black cloak with his hood pulled up against the wind. The man “never even looked to see if Jon had a bucket.” I think it was Cold-Hands & he did not want Jon to see his face, nor any of his other features. He called a challenge, but then he also never even looked? Suspicious. It seems that he saw Jon, then turned away & did what he thought would throw suspicion away from himself.
@salpimienta2961
@salpimienta2961 3 жыл бұрын
This is amazing.
@poseidonc1259
@poseidonc1259 3 жыл бұрын
@@salpimienta2961 I agree with you. I suspect that Ghost is being skin-changed to behave differently also.
@salpimienta2961
@salpimienta2961 3 жыл бұрын
@@poseidonc1259 Yup! This is a great little find, I think - well played. As if that chapter wasn't atmospheric enough already!
@rangerofthenorth21
@rangerofthenorth21 3 жыл бұрын
No matter how you look at it , whether it's Jon's life and character annihilation in the tv show or all the foreshadowing in the books , Jon's life is truly tragic . As much as I like the character it would have been a mercy to have died with his mother or have been better for him not to be born at all .
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
well he'll have the satisfaction of saving the world, so there is that. But yeah Jon walks a tough road man
@PedroLucas-mg5je
@PedroLucas-mg5je Жыл бұрын
I imagine Jon having these niihilistics thoughts after ressurrection if it either Shireen gets burned and Ghost is killed to bring him back or after the reveal of his real parentage that will make him feels absolutely guilty for, through his parents' actions, almost ending the lineages of the Dragonkings and the Kings of Winter and starts to have the feeling that everything bad that happens in Westeros are his and his parents' fault!
@mattiaachille233
@mattiaachille233 Ай бұрын
@@PedroLucas-mg5je If his body is possessed to kill people and make the realm suffer; it’s the PERFECT parallel to Rhaegar and Lyanna choosing ‘love’ and damning the world. Jon thought he was gonna save ‘Arya’ from rape and an arranged marriage just like Rhaegar did with Lyanna and the realm SUFFERED. He chose love over duty.
@russwilliams4464
@russwilliams4464 3 жыл бұрын
Maester Aemon’s words to John resonate here, within the context of this theory - perhaps it’s John’s love for his family that is the death of his duty to lead the walkers - maybe this is what thaws / frees him from his icy resurrection as new Nights King, and allows him to return to the side of the living?
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
The the death of death duty, I like it a lot :)
@PedroLucas-mg5je
@PedroLucas-mg5je Жыл бұрын
Jon, at the first time, chose his duty to the Night's Watch over his love for Ygritte, but now, Jon will choose his love for his siblings over his duty to be the King of the Others!
@chrisd6287
@chrisd6287 2 жыл бұрын
The meteor destroying the wall might be the coolest theory I've ever heard and it makes so much damn sense! The series literally starts talking about it being an omen. Oh my, you sir are good.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes meteors kill all the meat eaters
@Commendatori
@Commendatori Жыл бұрын
@@DavidLightbringer METEOR, METEOR!
@MrTylerStricker
@MrTylerStricker 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with the Others looking for Jon Snow beginning around the time of his birth. Also remember that the Others killed Waymar Royce & his party most likely because the Others were initially looking for Jon & mistakenly thought Waymar was Jon. They obviously quickly figured out he wasn't when they killed him, but still just more proof that they are indeed looking for Jon & know of him perhaps through prophecy or some unknown magical means.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! I talked about that piece of the puzzle in the A New Nights King video actually :)
@guillermoazuara8088
@guillermoazuara8088 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely LOVE the outside the box thinking. You're the most original and entertaining ASOIAF channel! Keep it up
@ng8530
@ng8530 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed, he is ❤
@spinakker14
@spinakker14 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, my favourite theories come from him (and Quinn and JoeMagician and Robert). He renewed my love for this series
@joshhoffman5233
@joshhoffman5233 3 жыл бұрын
spinakker i put Preston Jacobs in this group. Crackpotty but I like them
@PedroKrick
@PedroKrick 3 жыл бұрын
GOT: arya kills night king, not jon. Grrm mad with the show writing ADoS: arya kills the nights king Jon
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
Honesty I’ve wondered about this. The Arya “gave the spirit a punch” thing... what if stabbing him with dragon glass or V steel helps drive out the Other magic?
@PedroKrick
@PedroKrick 3 жыл бұрын
@@DavidLightbringer oh cool, I can see that happening in some way
@pedrodias7566
@pedrodias7566 3 жыл бұрын
My mind exploded
@jayluna8534
@jayluna8534 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe a “mercy” kill
@idrees1995
@idrees1995 3 жыл бұрын
It would be poetic that Jon gave Arya the sword needle to pursue her fighting endeavours yet it'll be Arya to come full circle and finish what Jon initially gave her.
@declanmiles2985
@declanmiles2985 3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the others are so interested in Jon because he's like them, Ice & Fire. In the others' case, the fire comes from Azor Ahai and the ice comes from Night's Queen. Both cases are a marriage of sorts between ice & fire.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
exactly, he might be the most potent blood sacrifice around!
@paulstrife
@paulstrife Жыл бұрын
It isn't a coincidence that Cold Hands has an animal accomplice. I think the relation is that they're both able to Warg. The others turn them upon death, while they jumped into their animal. They then fought to recover their re-animated body back.
@drippinwet774
@drippinwet774 Жыл бұрын
Dany must be a warg, too. She has 3 dragon accomplices.
@imnotamon
@imnotamon 3 жыл бұрын
Fight back against the algorithm, brother. This was a good way to start the morning ☄️💫
@_addison4772
@_addison4772 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect... tho I am not convinced R+L=J, but as GRRM said you can’t bring back someone back from the dead without losing something
@_addison4772
@_addison4772 3 жыл бұрын
To add to my reason why R+L≠J is that the Nights King is Stark ... not a Targarian. #B+A=J
@loganobrien6731
@loganobrien6731 3 жыл бұрын
@@_addison4772 Whos B
@_addison4772
@_addison4772 3 жыл бұрын
@@loganobrien6731 Brandon Stark, Neds older brother
@ATaha-ml4ir
@ATaha-ml4ir 3 жыл бұрын
@@_addison4772 then again, he has the stark blood from lyanna if R+L=J is true. Shouldnt that be enough? Kinda like how Robert laid his claim to the iron throne toward's the end of his rebellion based on his targaryean lineage (through Rhaelle marrying Ormund, his grandfather). A bit of a stretch but kinda makes sense imo.
@jovedo27
@jovedo27 3 жыл бұрын
@@_addison4772 huh?
@TGBGameplay
@TGBGameplay 3 жыл бұрын
Jon is inside the Wall when he thinks about it falling. Maybe Jon’s resurrection will be the ultimate trigger or perhaps the if Euron blows the horn it will call the Others to the Wall and to Jon and resurrect him with their ice magic
@bryanr.1171
@bryanr.1171 3 жыл бұрын
"I see you there, put that down"😂
@prinzejr628
@prinzejr628 3 жыл бұрын
White walkers are looking for a green seer , someone who can control the body of the dead or the living . They know it's a Stark. But jon is the one who looks the most like the og brother of the night king aka the 14 lord n commander. If I missed. Something correct me . I'm half asleep
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
Naw that’s close enough C+
@cheesesticks1234able
@cheesesticks1234able 3 жыл бұрын
in clash when jon finds the cache of dragonglass (which is also a dragon locked in ice of the fist of the first men, basically like jon finding his own grave) it says"Beneath the dragonglass was an old warhorn, made from an auroch's horn and banded in bronze. Jon shook the dirt from inside it, and a stream of arrowheads fell out. **He let them fall**"
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a great moon meteor metaphor too!
@TheOnlyElle.
@TheOnlyElle. 3 жыл бұрын
An early video! yaaay! I love the line that mentions the "memory" of warmth "fleeing" from John's body, as if that warmth is being pushed out by an immense force.. excellent :)
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
I took it that way too!
@TheOnlyElle.
@TheOnlyElle. 3 жыл бұрын
@@DavidLightbringer ...so it is written
@CZ-dg7te
@CZ-dg7te 3 жыл бұрын
There's foreshadowing for all the Stark characters. Bran's eye's big as saucers = foreshadows how much he'll see in the past, Robb leads them farther, Robb took them past Grandfather, Brandon and Lyanna = Foreshadows Robb's success in his war campaign being better than his grandfather's southern ambitions, and following Brandon and Lyanna to early grace as he's leading the Stark children to both their (Brandon and Lyanna's) graves, but his actions could lead them to *their* the Stark children's death too, spider's = foreshadow it's Vary's that Arya comes across him in the cellars of the keep during that scene, Rats as big as dogs = could foreshadow the Hound in that, "there are worse things than spiders and rats" = there are worse things than varys and the hound, sansa running shrieking for stairs = her running away from the family she accidentally betrays her father to the queen and then later to the eyrie is very high up like stairs, bran wrapped himself around Robb's leg and sobs = bran won't walk again, John covered in flour = (a stretch) What if some part of the magic to get Jon back into control of his body involves a Flower like the blue roses of winterfell or albeit more likely covered in flowers is reminds me of a coffin covered in flowers just more death imagery, the punch could = the punch that kills him, but what if the Arya's punch = a liquid punch/potion of some kind she learns in bravos, you scared the baby = maybe Jon is stopped just before almost killing/converting Gilly's baby?, them all laughing in the end might be showing a similar end fate, we know robb is dead and that jon ends up mostly dead, does that mean Bran and Arya end up some kind of dead (Bran subsumed into the weirwood net, Arya into whatever faceless magic she's invovled in?)
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
hey that's pretty good Claire, the part about Sansa and Bran convinced me. I think the white flour serves the purpose of making him a white walker while referencing Lyanna, just that; and scaring the baby... yeah maybe that's about Monster, I agree. Or maybe just that he'll be terrifying to humans in general. nice work!
@joshhoffman5233
@joshhoffman5233 3 жыл бұрын
Claire Zeller also Bran recalls the old Nan story at the night Fort. The one about how mayhaps his name was Brandon. And night kings powers only seem to fit bran and bloodravens so far. I think he’s def my candidate of choice, or at the very least George is purposely trying to get us wondering about it. I mean we have no clue what the children of the forest are up to. It’s just the show that makes us think they’re benevolent to the world of men and all that.
@dolphineachonga555
@dolphineachonga555 Жыл бұрын
So all Stark kids, except Sansa, are sacrificed to some God or other. John to the Wights, Arya to the faceless men and Bran to the weirwood gods. Man, this family can never escape tragedy. I hope Arya and Jon warg into their wolves and live together ever after. That would be some consolation.
@CommieBukkakie
@CommieBukkakie 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe after all the body snatching/re-possessing is over, Jon will have one red eye and one blue eye. Probably too much to hope for, but the symbolism would be 🤌
@tchambers807
@tchambers807 3 жыл бұрын
If the red comet signaled the return of dragons to the world it seems reasonable to assume another event could cause a comet that might crack the moon, triggering the long night. Maybe a blue comet? Maybe it comes after the others resurrect Jon's corpse?
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
Keep an eye on those horns to
@Ivbo
@Ivbo Жыл бұрын
*"Ah, it's you, Lord Snow" Dywen smiled an oaken smile; his teeth were carved of wood, and fit badly, "Thought me and the boy had us one o' them Others to deal with. Lose your wolf?"* - I’m reading through the books for the first time and I came across this today in Clash Of Kings, another subtle foreshadowing for Jon possibly becoming the new Night King.
@brandonlambert9768
@brandonlambert9768 3 жыл бұрын
This just made my morning.
@r3troraccoon707
@r3troraccoon707 Жыл бұрын
Maester Aemon told Jon he must kill the boy inside and let the man be born. This could also foreshadow the fire/youthful part of him dies, and he becomes a colder/mature man.
@howardhavardramberg7160
@howardhavardramberg7160 3 жыл бұрын
Woah, did you just read my mind dude? At work with an hour left needing something to listen to and *BOOM* LmL's out with straight fire.
@celly8713
@celly8713 3 жыл бұрын
Jon snow being a Jack Frost type character is a great connection, and Jon might even be George’s version of Jack Frost in the end which I’m ready for ☃️
@spinakker14
@spinakker14 3 жыл бұрын
Also, there's a theory that says back then a (Stark) baby had been promised to the Others (just like how Craster gives his sons to them), but it wasn't fulfilled, so now the Others come to take their Prince that was Promised to them, i.e. Jon. Or something like this
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I’ve actually broken down that idea in a podcast series called “Blood of the Other.” There’s a lot to support it. Tell you what though, I’d appreciate it if you’d not drop that name here in this place. There’s a lot of bad blood between us. No apologies needed of course, just... we aren’t friends. His ideas aren’t original either. I do like the video about Waymar however, it is solid no doubt. Just not original.
@spinakker14
@spinakker14 3 жыл бұрын
@@DavidLightbringer sorry, I didn't know that
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
@@spinakker14 dude no worries. Like I said it's a good video, no wonder you might have thought of it. Cheers
@brandonlambert9768
@brandonlambert9768 3 жыл бұрын
Your Euron and Dany videos are among the best ASOIAF video essays on KZfaq. Correction, all your ASOIAF video essays are the best on KZfaq.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
🥰🥰🥰
@TGBGameplay
@TGBGameplay 3 жыл бұрын
I shall second this good sir
@Nga_Babaye
@Nga_Babaye 3 жыл бұрын
"....the others take me." Jon Snow.
@agirlhasathousandnamesando980
@agirlhasathousandnamesando980 3 жыл бұрын
Not only are your theories and content strong, but your jokes and pop culture references make your videos extra delightful to watch. Very nice 👍😁👍
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
thanks! I listened to one of my older podcasts today because I'm condensing some of the Jon material for the next video, and I realized how much years of practice has helped me. You know how it is when you look at your older art or work - half of it is cringe, and half is feeling proud of something decent. Anyway glad you like it!
@agirlhasathousandnamesando980
@agirlhasathousandnamesando980 3 жыл бұрын
Lucifer means Lightbringer you’re welcome! Well don’t be too hard on yourself. I’m a hobby baker, so to use baking terms😝... your “cake (sponge)” has always been amazing; you’re just improving your “frosting”.
@isabellamego5321
@isabellamego5321 3 жыл бұрын
I think Jon Snow as Night king is ironically hot af
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
He knows when you are sleeping He knows when you’re awake He knows when you’ve been bad and just need a little spank ;)
@TheCbot88
@TheCbot88 3 жыл бұрын
im pretty sure the scene when "Bran could taste the blood" was the starks 'Wedding' the trees. ya think? I'm not sure what else that scene would be meaning to convey.
@brandonlambert9768
@brandonlambert9768 3 жыл бұрын
The artwork you used is amazing
@postvizsla7509
@postvizsla7509 2 жыл бұрын
I think if Jon gets resurrected he’ll come back with Targaryen silver hair but act a lot more wolf-like
@neruki6336
@neruki6336 Жыл бұрын
This amount of symbolism is incredible, no wonder he take so long to write his books.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer Жыл бұрын
Sometimes I feel like it helps him right faster, because it gives him a template to work from, but other times yeah, the story is so layered and artistic that it’s just not something you can bang out real quick
@Airehcaz
@Airehcaz 3 жыл бұрын
LML I wish you all the success in the world! you’re always putting out fantastic content with surprising frequency. I’m quite insecure right now, financially speaking, so I can’t contribute now...but I definitely watch all these ads and click on them! More than once. Hopefully that helps in some way lol
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
❤️❤️❤️
@jackalackb17
@jackalackb17 3 жыл бұрын
I dont think THIS resurrection will be by the others. We know by his dream that he probably fights the others on the wall at least once and I think Euron's armour proves it is a literal fight. Most likely, assuming your theories are correct in some aspects, Euron attempts to become king of the others and is defeated in a way that leads Jon to have his armour and fight off the others at the wall in a similar fashion to the Wildlings. Later Jon could allow himself to become otherized, perhaps not feeling all that human anyway as a fire wight. Question that raises for me is who plays the part of Stannis's army in Jon Snows defeating of the Other army? Dany probably, right or maybe (f)Aegon? Maybe both.
@catherinehalverson1436
@catherinehalverson1436 3 жыл бұрын
Yasss! This is one of my favorite videos- I love your theory about what the Others might want from Jon. I think this makes a lot of sense. Great stuff!
@annabuys3985
@annabuys3985 3 жыл бұрын
this is what everyone's friday needed!
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
aw yeah, cuz it's Friday, nobody can go anywhere, and it's always 420 somewhere
@PumpkinBreath
@PumpkinBreath 3 жыл бұрын
You’re one of my favorite channels man, keep up the great videos 🤌.
@celestinamichelle5369
@celestinamichelle5369 2 жыл бұрын
I thought Corn King was kind of a stretch until it reminded me of "Children of the Corn." John has to make a human sacrifice to join the wildlings. And Corin's name even sounds like Corn. Plus we have Children of the Forest.
@ferniek5000
@ferniek5000 3 жыл бұрын
More like ~Epic Astronomy~ ... I was glued to my seat for this one. glad you didn't shorten it!
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
Music to my ears
@thisguy8106
@thisguy8106 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, as always LML. Thanks for all your hard work!!
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@cbob213
@cbob213 3 жыл бұрын
Sweet. Been waiting for this one for a while!
@TheBrett1890
@TheBrett1890 3 жыл бұрын
I do like the idea that the Others started to reappear after Jon's birth, but I feel like with Craster having more than 100 children that just isn't far back enough.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
Where is that stated?
@TGBGameplay
@TGBGameplay 3 жыл бұрын
Crastor has many wives.
@MissSeaShell
@MissSeaShell Жыл бұрын
With the number of wives he has he could easily have 100 sons in 14-16 years. Which is... Disturbing.
@TheBrett1890
@TheBrett1890 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe you mentioned this and I missed it, but another parallel between the Others and the free folk that Jon lets through is that there are about 100 kid hostages, just like there are 100 of Crasters sons.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
Where is the number of his sons given?
@TheBrett1890
@TheBrett1890 3 жыл бұрын
@@DavidLightbringer oh dear, after looking this up I realise they only say 99 on the show, so that's not book canon.
@Devoted2Mariah
@Devoted2Mariah 2 жыл бұрын
I love this video, you point things out very cleverly, with actual evidence. You break down the clues in the sentences perfectly. Bravo, David. 🌬
@krakentacos
@krakentacos 3 жыл бұрын
Great video with really awesome artwork. I thought Jon would comeback with red eyes after being in Ghost. I guess it depends on how he’s resurrected.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
red eyes might come after he's purified by R'hllor, I'm thinking
@nexus6163
@nexus6163 Жыл бұрын
I could see John snow becoming a white walker , we could speculate about all the connections in the books however the main reason I believe it’s a big possibility is because GRRM isn’t the type of author to give the main character a “happy” ending. Rather a necessary one. John- the most beloved character , the only character important enough that we see him as a baby. His birth being important is a dead give away that his death will be as well. Seeing John as just a shadow of his former self after all we’ve been through together would be equally shocking and heart breaking even if we knew it was inevitable all along.
@brianlowe904
@brianlowe904 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone has their favorite character and Jon is mine. I think people who say he’s boring cause he’s the archetypical hero while not wrong haven’t been paying attention to the other symbolism that Imo sets him apart. Look forward to more videos related to lml blood of the others series which I recommend everyone take the time to listen to if you haven’t they’re my favorite set of video essays from lml
@queerlybeloved257
@queerlybeloved257 9 ай бұрын
been getting into your vids the past few weeks and LOVE them!!! your passion and excitement to share your thoughts and analyses are so wonderful. this week was actually kind of a rough one, but watching your vids has been a balm. just very relaxing and nice. i really like how committed you get w/ the voices, too!!! the crow voice in this one made me smile xD would totally listen to an audiobook read by you.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 9 ай бұрын
❤️❤️
@bobbehwitchie
@bobbehwitchie 3 жыл бұрын
I'm about half way through this and WOW!!!! This is amazing work LML.
@mollyhyde2212
@mollyhyde2212 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!!!Great editing!
@alecolson8360
@alecolson8360 3 жыл бұрын
Best titles every time
@Markadown
@Markadown Жыл бұрын
Loving this. Not sure how I missed this video. I knew of the theory, but finally diving into it in my LML re-binge. Is that a word? I appreciate your work and your fastidous reading of the series.
@katefimov4022
@katefimov4022 Жыл бұрын
So glad you didn't add a "frozen" Elsa scene, while talking about ice magic lol
@jonhauge-evaldsson783
@jonhauge-evaldsson783 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You! Outstanding deep analysis of the symbolism as always! You are the best!
@Air0Sparks
@Air0Sparks 3 жыл бұрын
Then why would Rhaegar made sure Jon was born. He changed his whole life and then purposely stole a stark to make sure Jon happened. So would he mix ice and fire if not to correct the balance of the two powers and heal Westeros ..... also if Jon does become a cold one I can see Arya killing him.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
I mean Rhaegar got a few things wrong didn’t he
@atmaximum
@atmaximum 3 жыл бұрын
Name someone on the books that got their plans 100% like they wanted
@RhaevanHeims
@RhaevanHeims 2 жыл бұрын
Arya killing Jon would break hearts!
@MissSeaShell
@MissSeaShell Жыл бұрын
I don't think he's suggesting that Jon will become an evil figure. Just that he might be controlled by them for a time, or possibly eventually give himself over to them as a sacrifice & as part of a pact/peace treaty with the Others. But also yeah, Rhaegar got a lot wrong about prophecy as do most other characters who attempt to prophesize.
@jbird976
@jbird976 Жыл бұрын
Jon is such a beloved character. It makes complete sense that something awful would be in store for him 😅
@danishtasteele9272
@danishtasteele9272 3 жыл бұрын
All the work you have done for the series is so unique and eye opening. You have reveled many secrets and an overall understanding of ASOIAF, but I think more than that, you have discovered a way (Georges way rather) that each characters arc is laid out. And now that the story makes more sense we can guess at the many paths of the future ( when expectations are subverted it will be because their are so many options). Here's to your health!
@bshaddo
@bshaddo 3 жыл бұрын
This title shows where I’m leaning before watching the video, because it’s the most logical way for the show to have basically ended up with the books. If Jon Snow is the Night King, what we saw him do in the show could easily fall to Stannis, fAegon, and finally Jorah Mormont.
@jon5620
@jon5620 3 жыл бұрын
Some real heavy-hitting stuff! I especially love the idea that like any corn king, Jon will have a winter and a spring phase. Loving the shoutout! You rule, man.
@oscarquintero7161
@oscarquintero7161 2 жыл бұрын
Love your content. Especially the snow, snow, snow!!!!
@LeonM4c
@LeonM4c 3 жыл бұрын
SO EXCITED for this one, LML. Youre so great
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
Awww thanks!
@FieryReborn
@FieryReborn 3 жыл бұрын
Love these Videos!
@tool9386
@tool9386 3 жыл бұрын
Kid Cudi drops Man on the Moon 3 on the same day LML drops the Jon Snow video. The old gods smile upon us this day.
@pawnmurica2407
@pawnmurica2407 3 жыл бұрын
Going to make work fly by! Thanks!!
@Sweenerdog
@Sweenerdog Жыл бұрын
the ambience in your videos are the best in the fandom. thanks for kicking so much ass, so endlessly.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I made all that ambient music myself with bass guitar and lots of pedals. No synths whatsoever.
@beyond12021
@beyond12021 3 жыл бұрын
Love your sense of humor as well as sense of symbology
@HaiNguyen-up4nf
@HaiNguyen-up4nf 2 жыл бұрын
Funny, Season 6 poster showed Jon as half-wright, possibly on his way to be Night King. I envision The Song of Ice and Fire had finally started. Sigh.
@patrickpaisley6175
@patrickpaisley6175 3 жыл бұрын
Dude! You crushed this! Love it!
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Patrick!
@Fathoms09
@Fathoms09 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video!!! Thank you LmL!
@elisebrodeur-jacobs5215
@elisebrodeur-jacobs5215 3 жыл бұрын
As always thank you for the fucking awesome video!
@jintym2951
@jintym2951 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely adored this video & looking forward to the 'other' side of the theory next time 😁 xx
@EgoscueG7
@EgoscueG7 3 жыл бұрын
This is so good! Thank you LML
@johnmontag
@johnmontag 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for another non live-stream video!! I think a large percentage of us miss these so much. Please go back to making MORE of these. I know they take WAY more time to make, but these are just amazing. Most of my favorite ASOIAF KZfaqr's are doing live-streams at a minimum of 3/4 of all their posts, and it saddens me. Thank you so much for making amazing video's :-). Is your roommate Quinn done doing ASOIAF video's? The series you guys did about "The Winds of Winter" predictions is one of the best, if not THE BEST, series from any ASOIAF channel. But hope you have a great Holiday season :-)
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
Actually I’ve been pretty consistent with doing two scripted videos per month, that’s really all I can manage because my videos are longer than most other people’s and because I put a lot of art in my videos and change the pictures a lot. What I have tried to do recently is to make the live-streams more fast moving and topical by doing outlines as opposed to just bullshitting and carrying on. Anyway, thanks for watching, cheers
@viennperidot1119
@viennperidot1119 Жыл бұрын
"The Prince That Was Promised"; "and His shall be the Song of Ice and Fire" And Fire has already had Azor Ahai. What if Jon Snow is the Prince that was Promised to Winter in exchange?
@marcuswynn89
@marcuswynn89 3 жыл бұрын
One time for the purp paste
@iamjohnrobot
@iamjohnrobot 3 жыл бұрын
sizzurp till we dizzurp
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
My boys
@downtown_clownybrown
@downtown_clownybrown 3 жыл бұрын
really looking forward to reading paradise gained
@devoleno
@devoleno 3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding!
@mauralee9987
@mauralee9987 3 жыл бұрын
Simply fabulous as always!!!!!!
@michaeldebenedetti8198
@michaeldebenedetti8198 3 жыл бұрын
John is the Prince that was Promised... to the Others
@angelfire9094
@angelfire9094 3 жыл бұрын
YESSS
@michaeldebenedetti8198
@michaeldebenedetti8198 3 жыл бұрын
NICE NEW VIDEO TITLE TODAY🤪
@jintym2951
@jintym2951 3 жыл бұрын
Also I began my day with a message confirming my cool new nickname. Now after a long day at work I'm home enjoying this awesome video & my nickname shows up in the intro to last section of video. Best bookends to a day ever! Thanks so much again 😁 xx
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
no, thank YOU! xoxo
@annohalloran6020
@annohalloran6020 Жыл бұрын
You bring me so much light I can see why they call you so
@amynurss1375
@amynurss1375 3 жыл бұрын
Just got home work and tuned in! Love this. The artwork is amazing. I still hope he is Azor Hi. Jon has a great destiny, I know it.
@evilbunnyqueen517
@evilbunnyqueen517 3 жыл бұрын
You have a new sub just because I love the cute ice spider fan art
@elisebrodeur-jacobs5215
@elisebrodeur-jacobs5215 3 жыл бұрын
BEST CHANNEL EVER DAVE💙💙 ILY
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
at your service m'lady
@blackcandel
@blackcandel 3 жыл бұрын
I'm about to listen but I've always felt Jon was all Ice and will rise an Other. Like Cat.... I'm so excited to hear your perspective!
@thebeardedheathen153
@thebeardedheathen153 3 жыл бұрын
I've been wondering a lot recently about the first weapon of Azor Ahai being broken or lost, and just noticed the foreshadowing during the Othor fight when he loses his sword. With Longclaw being Valyrian Steel I'm not expecting it to be broken, but lost or taken might make sense. And that would allow him to take up his new sword Dawn (also taking him from using a bastard sword to the larger greatsword, maybe some extra symbolic icing on the cake). Anyway, I love the videos and wanted to say thank you for reigniting my passion for these books.
@johannesfourie4053
@johannesfourie4053 6 ай бұрын
My mind is thoroughly blown,ser. Aye!
@garo7839
@garo7839 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video and amazing art.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
I feel so lucky to have so much great fandom art to work with :)
@keelobrown4991
@keelobrown4991 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought, however unplausible, that it would have been cool if the bloodstone emperor and his followers became the Others somehow. That essos connects in the east to the land of always winter and they migrated there for some reason and then somehow became the Others. Maybe the stone bloodstone worshipped could have had something to do with it, maybe the children. A theory i know isnt true but is interesting nontheless. If your theory of azor ahai being the bloodstone emperor then becoming the nights king is true, and he played a role in creating the Others then... well this theory would be true 😂. Partly at least. I hope so. The belief in the east that his sin caused the long night itself kinda makes me wonder about it to. Would be a cool twist to have the starks be descended from the dawn empire and the opposition to the firey targaryans would be their own ancestors. Being the first dragon riders it could explain the ice dragons to. Maybe bloodstone found a way to turn his dragons into Others to.🤷‍♂️ I genuinely have always thought that azor ahai and the nights king are one and the same, nights king being the 13th commander and azor ahai having 12 companions was the first hint for me. Bloodstone also being both of them makes a lot of sense to, you laid all the evidence for that out perfectly! I mean the black stone he worshipped, a meteor possibly being responsible for the long night, the hero who was said to have beat the Others being the one to have actually created them, the first dragon riders now being the greatest opposition to the current dragon riders, the starks being potentially direct descendents of the bloodstone emperor making jon even more of a dragon than dany. Its all so juicy :D. Ps. Grrm is an absolute master of wordplay!
@imaboxcar8459
@imaboxcar8459 2 жыл бұрын
also the stone worshipped was the heart of a meteorite, and Dawn was forged from the heart of a meteorite
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