The Problem with Annette | Castlevania: Nocturne REACTION

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10 ай бұрын

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@stephenwright5939
@stephenwright5939 10 ай бұрын
They did the same thing with issac and he became one of Castlevania’s best characters
@SistahPunkStudios
@SistahPunkStudios 10 ай бұрын
Issac had me questioning my morality when he came back from the dark continent 😳 insane character development
@zodlord5669
@zodlord5669 10 ай бұрын
@@SistahPunkStudios I understand people's aversion I'm not really woke enough to always accept racial character changes, sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't in this case I didn't particularly mind. I find it funny that creators are so fixated on changing anyone previous white to black though. A lot of white guilt complex going on. As for the character of Annette in this incarnation I did enjoy her but I felt she was one of the weakest in terms of characters. Yeah I get it you were enslaved and you're angry seems to be her modes of expression. I'm sure they'll develop her more. She's just a bit headstrong and whiny which is fine but then she gets her friends killed as a result of it and doesn't seem to really reflect on her choices too much later on. She also is indifferent to Richter when he flees, then judges him as a coward without understanding the fears he felt. Granted all of her plans sucked or failed. That being said there is a lot to develope, along with all the characters who are all flawed. Don't get me started on Marie.
@kailin8223
@kailin8223 10 ай бұрын
The nocturne equivalent to Isaac is probably olrox tho, i don’t know why anyone would have a problem with Annette and Isaac considering their race actually ties into their backstory and it’s explained why they are there . I just wish they didn’t make Annette so fucking boring and angsty💤.
@williampearson6299
@williampearson6299 10 ай бұрын
@@zodlord5669 Actually, you're only noticing because you don't know or have watched black content. My wife is black and brought up Cheetah Girls raceswapped 2 characters when the characters were ALL black (with 1 biracial character). Hollywood ahs alwasy whitewashed characters from other cultures. You're only offended when it's white characters swapped
@Darth_Bateman
@Darth_Bateman 10 ай бұрын
Annette is NOT issac. Annette is literally boring and stupid.
@Naruhodo788
@Naruhodo788 9 ай бұрын
The only problem I have with Annette is that her relationship with Richter feels a bit rushed in my opinion she went from neutral to angry then love interest real quick, I feel they didn’t expand on their relationship that much since they were mostly separated from each other most of the time
@vocalgamer9222
@vocalgamer9222 9 ай бұрын
Same. I mean, yeah you can only do so much within the span of 8 thirty minute episodes.
@BearManley
@BearManley 9 ай бұрын
Idk.... I don't get love interest vibes from Annette and Ritcher at all yet. I feel like they both were just talking about and coming to terms with their shared trauma and being emotionally vulnerable.
@nl_grimm5292
@nl_grimm5292 9 ай бұрын
It’s only one season and they only blushed to each other… how is it rushed
@hectorrodriguezgonzalez8938
@hectorrodriguezgonzalez8938 9 ай бұрын
To be fair, they are practicaly teenagers /j
@karinaa.concepcion4351
@karinaa.concepcion4351 9 ай бұрын
Yeah the way she kept basically undermining richter's trauma and then out of nowhere they have this weird blushing scene just felt out of place for me
@Aka60thChip
@Aka60thChip 9 ай бұрын
You know, I understand that there might be a nostalgic feeling for the original depiction of Richter and his girlfriend. But common, what would they have done with damsel Annette? I think having someone from another revolution not only acts as a way to strengthen the theme and team as a whole, but opens up the world and makes it feel more lived in. Edit/addition: I just wanna say I love her magic and the sort of “lore” it brings to the table. Being that magic is inherited and the type you get as well. Which leads me to wonder how Maria got her summoning powers and not so much her speaker mothers elemental powers. I’m guessing it’s something to do with how her father/the priest was able to summon the forge and get it working.
@gaberoch9153
@gaberoch9153 9 ай бұрын
I never played before Rondo of blood, so I meet Anette in this animation and found her character very interesting. Was actually disappointed when I found out she was originally a purple hair girl with no more story than being a kidnapped damsel in distress.
@beans8459
@beans8459 9 ай бұрын
I don’t see Annette as a race swap. If anything they just used the same name and made Annette into an new character with actual purpose and motivation and not just some NPC that is meant to be a love interest for the protagonist.
@hehehe785
@hehehe785 9 ай бұрын
Exactly so I don’t get the outraged about her character
@mscanela27
@mscanela27 9 ай бұрын
Fcuking love this comment may I use it.
@PotaraGuy
@PotaraGuy 9 ай бұрын
They used the same name, made a poorly written* character out of it, with borrowed backstories from typical stereotypes about slavery and strong empowered women who can do it all themselves*, and then slapped her together with the main character of the show with zero chemistry or interesting interaction shown.* Fixed it for you. She may not be just a race swap, but it's far worse with the writing than what could have, should have been done. Deserved far more quality than the same generic tropes we've heard for years now. We need new blood, a fresh character, and a reason to love and root for her besides painting a shoddy picture and calling it art.
@_M....
@_M.... 9 ай бұрын
they should have literally just called her a different name. still would be backlash for focusing on a black girl from many, but still, just give black characters a fresh identity altogether.
@PotaraGuy
@PotaraGuy 9 ай бұрын
@@_M.... I'm not against black characters being focused on, to be clear, but I don't like the borderline racist stereotype of 'I came from a hard home, life was rough, I was looked down on, I hated it, but then I had an opportunity, and I got mad, and I changed my life, and spat on those who wronged me, and now I'm strong, and now nobody can hurt me.' How many more times are we going to have to hear that?
@vocalgamer9222
@vocalgamer9222 9 ай бұрын
Honestly, I actually liked the main villainess Erszebet. I mean, sure Dracula is the MAIN big bad of the series, but you can only bring him back so many times before the whole "Oh no, Dracula's back!" plot point loses it's luster and the audience becomes apathetic.
@cleverpsyche115
@cleverpsyche115 9 ай бұрын
Also the last series ended with him and Lisa finally together, so them bringing him back would be contrived.
@morehead666
@morehead666 9 ай бұрын
Except for the part where she looks like hello kitty on roids.
@corryjamieson3909
@corryjamieson3909 9 ай бұрын
​@@cleverpsyche115Unless they somehow make him evil again, I don't see Soma Cruz shooting up monsters with his holy silvergun in the year 2032 getting animated.
@saitoren4061
@saitoren4061 9 ай бұрын
​@@corryjamieson3909 Soma could be a clone of Dracula for this adaptation, though.
@justanotherdxy
@justanotherdxy 9 ай бұрын
​@@saitoren4061Considering how long after Soma is in the storyline, he could still be Dracula reincarnation. Especially since Dracula as it currently stands is on the more positive side of the spectrum, Soma could be completely unchanged.
@Artistic_Hermit
@Artistic_Hermit 9 ай бұрын
I think my only problem with Annette is that she could have been her own character. She's interesting enough for that, and doesn't need to be 'Annette'.
@hehehe785
@hehehe785 9 ай бұрын
I don’t get your point here? She is technically her own character as the creators of nocturne did a complete 180 by changing her backstory and personality. The only thing that ties Annette to the games is her name that’s it.
@Aripuni1
@Aripuni1 9 ай бұрын
​@@hehehe785that what make it worst, just change her name no one gonna mad, blackwashing to make good character isnt a excuse
@Artistic_Hermit
@Artistic_Hermit 9 ай бұрын
@@hehehe785 By naming her Annette, the creators already imply a connection with game Annette. What’s the point of it if they’re going to change her personality, backstory, and skill set? I’d rather she just be an original character that I can watch without any preconceived notions of how she may act.
@ranky7359
@ranky7359 9 ай бұрын
@@Artistic_Hermit See I thought I was going crazy here thinking the same thing.
@hehehe785
@hehehe785 9 ай бұрын
@@Aripuni1 ah yes “blackwashing”, you mean racebending? Because blackwashing as a term does not exist because it does not have the same implications and history as whitewashing. Please educate yourself on that before dropping the term blackwashing. You guys making the same compliant but I don’t see that same energy with Issac? That what gets me super confused in this op. Even if they change her name people are still gonna compliant about her replacing her character, that’s what I don’t get.
@MegaTomPlays
@MegaTomPlays 9 ай бұрын
To be fair this Annette is a lot better in the show than her video game counterpart. In the game she was a damsel in distress who saw 0 development unless you fail to save her and she developed into a succubus
@dirge341
@dirge341 9 ай бұрын
Fun fact: Annette was already Richter's girlfriend. It was established cannon wise that the two were dating before Richter's first trip into dracs castle. Also, the purple haired version was not a concept, but from the turbo graph 16 days. The blond hair was done via for the remake on the psp. The game itself isn't about her development as it was to rescue the other kidnapped girls, including Maria and Annette. Dracula only kidnapped Annette as he knew she was Richter's girlfriend. Not only to aggravate Richter, but he wanted to turn her. Adding further insult to injury. Much in the same vein of Walter's (lament of innocence) fatal mistake. Plus, the entire series isn't about the damsel in distress. It's more about trekking through a haunted castle full of nasty things in order to stop drac from causing damage.
@notyetawomen5257
@notyetawomen5257 9 ай бұрын
@@dirge341 Just a genuine question, do you think OG Annette had personality? I research somewhere that she one time threaten to kill herself when confronted by Dracula so he wouldn't turn her, it doesn't sound like she had an entirely zero personality.
@dirge341
@dirge341 9 ай бұрын
@notyetawomen5257 actually, I think she did have some personality. I actually stated it in another reply, but in this case, Annette didn't have to be race swapped. They could have easily kept her as she was and included the whole voodoo background with just a few edits. Fun fact, it is assumed that all five did have special abilities. And yes....she did threaten to kill herself in the game.
@notyetawomen5257
@notyetawomen5257 9 ай бұрын
@@dirge341 nice 👍 thank you for answering and providing info.
@Gr0ot
@Gr0ot 7 ай бұрын
@@dirge341Why would she be white with Voodoo Magic especially around that time? Are you an idiot. And to say she had personality you have to be slow. Quite literally her title in the game is “Damsel In Distress.”, that’s her role. That isn’t a good role for a show in 2023. They also have to bring it up to date. If you’re saying why didn’t they just make Annette in the show a new character instead. Because why would they do that if they can change around a character that already has no personality in the first place? You do realize this is what comics, shows, movies, Etc. Do all the time? There’s a reason for that. Also given it isn’t up to date…and the bias from that time obviously presents itself. And overall provides a better story. The game is alright. But the Story in the shows you can already make arguments that story wise it’s better written which is decently expected I guess?
@AngieCarr
@AngieCarr 9 ай бұрын
I ain’t a Castlevania die-hard so I don’t really have a dog in this fight. All I know is, Drolta & Olrox ATE UP EVERY SCENE they were in. I couldn’t take my eyes off them and their voice actors did a good job with their performances. Also, their fits were 🔥🔥🔥
@CheekiTiki
@CheekiTiki 9 ай бұрын
Orlox's voice is some delicate gravy baby. I couldn't get enough of it
@dirge341
@dirge341 9 ай бұрын
Fun fact: drolta was around in Simon Belmont time. Her "mecha knights" was a boss in cv4. After symphony of the night, she appears again in cv bloodlines. Another fun fact: olrox is European and bald. In the current anime, the Japanese voice actor actually sounds better. 👌
@Ninjaananas
@Ninjaananas 4 ай бұрын
​​@@dirge341 You mean Sir Grakul? He has no ties to Drolta. And not all living armors are tied to Drolta. And Olrox's ethnicity was not known.
@dirge341
@dirge341 4 ай бұрын
@Ninjaananas It is officially stated that the armor boss in super castlevania IV is a mecha knight and is the exact mecha knight that appears in castlevania bloodlines. (In which we see multiple off) as for olrox, it is stated he is of European origin. Not Aztec.
@Ninjaananas
@Ninjaananas 4 ай бұрын
@@dirge341 No, they are not the same. They look and fight differently. And where has it been stated that he is a mecha knight? And again, no ties to Drolta. Super Castlevania IV came out before anyone came up with Drolta. Where was it stated that Olrox is European?
@ultimateme3049
@ultimateme3049 9 ай бұрын
I dont give a shit, i have no connection to the castlevania franchise, i just watched the shows, and so far this season is pretty cool and neat just like the previous ones. And look I understand bad forced changes, i hate Netflix's Cleopatra, i load most of disney movie changes. But this, this is comoletely fine. We have a vampire that can freaking transform into FUCKING QUETZALCOATL, we have a character that went from being a Damsel in Distress, to having powers based on african Gods that im seriously curious about learning more about. And so much more, the people behind the show clearly put on the work behind the scenes and it shows. All the people complaining seriously weird me out.
@d.d717
@d.d717 9 ай бұрын
EXACTLY, and their all in the same category: angry white neanderthals
@diverman1023
@diverman1023 3 ай бұрын
If you admit to have 0 connection to the castlevania franchise, why get weirded out by long time fans who aren't happy with the new series? Mind you, they race-swapped Isaac in the previous show and nobody cared- in fact his arc is widely regarded as one of the best. The issue with Annette is that she's poorly written and unlikable, yet cannibalized a lot of the focus away from Richter Belmont...it's that simple
@ultimateme3049
@ultimateme3049 3 ай бұрын
@@diverman1023 because a lot of those old "fans" are actually hating her based on race purely, which I know because I've talked with them, I'm sorry but if you're start your criticism talking about "woke nonsense" then I won't take you seriously. I don't have an issue with actual complaints, but lots of people started hating her way before even the show was out, which I know because I was literally in those forums when those peeps were whining.
@magivenderstudios
@magivenderstudios 2 ай бұрын
@@ultimateme3049atleast game annette had healthy relationship with richter i just want my boy to be happy . I had hunch that if richter and annette do end up get together annette probably would ignore richter’s emotional problems and go for other character’s emotional problems instead i saw this post on tumblr talking about trevor and sypha’s relationship imbalances
@Akira3202
@Akira3202 9 ай бұрын
The original character didnt matter, they just want to be mad about a race swap. Honestly i did feel that they did spend too much time on her in the series while sidelining the main character, but thats when i thought this was going to be a stand alone series. It makes more sense now that i understand that it is intended to have multiple seasons.
@thewillof3543
@thewillof3543 9 ай бұрын
Yes mad about that because you dont chnage a character thats already in place juat add a black girl to the group
@mizushogun
@mizushogun 9 ай бұрын
@@thewillof3543again that won’t stop people from still complaining and making arbitrary arguments.
@just_existing253
@just_existing253 9 ай бұрын
@@thewillof3543what do u like about the original Annette
@breewoo145
@breewoo145 9 ай бұрын
⁠@@thewillof3543what about the original Annette that was so memorable then dipshit
@Scoring57
@Scoring57 9 ай бұрын
@@thewillof3543 Yes you do. You can write stories however you want and creators taking creative liberty with characters and stories isn't a new thing. In fact it's something people used to ask for a lot when they felt a story was stale or they already all the details of an old story and retelling it would be boring to them. I guess it's ok to be creative in that way, but just don't make your character black for racist people 😄
@Vincentpanh
@Vincentpanh 9 ай бұрын
Annette is awesome, she a good character. Done, moving on people.
@SamuraiMotoko
@SamuraiMotoko 9 ай бұрын
What i wonder, if she is not going to look like Annette, play the same rol or have the same personality, why not name her something else so she cant be her own character?
@mizushogun
@mizushogun 9 ай бұрын
Even then that won’t change the arbitrary arguments being made. Also the same Argument can be made about Issac, yet he was generally accepted, seen as great, and people pretty much didn’t care after that because he was interesting.
@dnfluffles772
@dnfluffles772 9 ай бұрын
I think its cause Isaac isnt as important of a character to keep the same as anette is , annette being the main love interest in the games. Also I would say Isaac was extremely well written, one of the best in fiction; so no one minded if they changed his character for this one. @@mizushogun
@Diogolindir
@Diogolindir 9 ай бұрын
​@@dnfluffles772is Annette really that important? I don't know man. In the case of Castlevania, changes must be made since the lore works for the games but not for a series and so far I feel that has been very well done.
@kevinghost7211
@kevinghost7211 9 ай бұрын
They didn’t change issacs name and his not even close to the original source
@kevinghost7211
@kevinghost7211 9 ай бұрын
@@Diogolindirif you played the game she was only in one section
@patrickarellano8073
@patrickarellano8073 9 ай бұрын
As someone who has beaten numerous versions of Rondo of Blood, I cannot comprehend why anyone would give a shit about the changes made to Annette. The most interesting thing she did in the original was turn into a vampire in the bad ending route.
@Ninjaananas
@Ninjaananas 8 ай бұрын
That was not even in Rondo of Blood.
@patrickarellano8073
@patrickarellano8073 8 ай бұрын
​@@Ninjaananas I always rescue the maidens in my playthroughs, so I wouldn't know.
@MrJhound4
@MrJhound4 9 ай бұрын
I don't care that Annette is a black character in Castlevania. My problem is that she should have been a new character altogether because white hand-me-downs don't have to be the norm. I WOULD like to see a story that's closer to what happens in the game, but with world building that enhances it.
@aclevername7613
@aclevername7613 9 ай бұрын
Same. I have no issues with black characters and one of the reasons i dislike race swaps is its a lazy hand me down. Its so much better when a char is their own thing. I love when a good char is made wether black or white and is their own thing. Just doing a swap they are always in the shadow of the origional. If they made batman black he wuold be known as "black batman" not batman. Where if they made a new hero they would be seen as their own thing and be known as themselves not a alternate version of the existing char.
@MrJhound4
@MrJhound4 9 ай бұрын
@@aclevername7613 Absolutely right, bro. I'm a black guy, but a character's race doesn't have to be the most important thing about them. I think the biggest problem with Nocturne is that it's pretty much just Castlevania in name only.
@lilcheat3
@lilcheat3 9 ай бұрын
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@Catman498
@Catman498 9 ай бұрын
Very different characters… in canon Annette is Maria’s older sister and Richter’s fiancé. In this they more or less created an original character who marginally happens to share Annette’s name. And Maria is made to be related to Richter when they aren’t related in canon. Also setting in game and show are completely different and story has almost nothing to do with the games stories.
@spicykaraage641
@spicykaraage641 9 ай бұрын
thay should have made a new character in mya opinion instead of changing annette. And given that marie is 16 here I wonder how would they tackle her romance with alucard. unless a timeskip occurs.
@Scoring57
@Scoring57 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, and?
@kblue1436
@kblue1436 9 ай бұрын
In terms of Maria being Annette's sister... Canon, you mean its canon to ONLY the Dracula X adaptation of Rondo of Blood which changed the dialogue of the characters and is non-canon to the main timeline of the series. In all other adaptations of Rondo of Blood Maria and Annette have no family relations with each other. Annette and Richter are never mentioned to be betrothed either, she is his GF yes but not his fiancé. Also no, In all adaptations of Rondo of Blood and even Nocturne both Richter and Maria ARE related in canon as distant relatives. The only one were they aren't related is the Dracula X version. Again also no, both the games AND the show take place in the same setting in 1792(including Dracula X version). The first Netflix series didn't follow the games 1 to 1 either, so??? Nocturne changed a character that had little impact on the overall plot in ALL adaptations before it. Richter was born a vampire hunter and was going to kill the vampires and demons anyways regardless of if he had a romantic interest or not, Maria alone is enough motivation for the character(and is more developed too). The show runners wanted to keep an original character from the games while also giving them more depth and to also relate with the themes that were going on during that era of history in the world. People need to get over it and stop acting like they erased a President from the history books. In Summary Dracula X is not true canon to the main game series timeline. DX is an adaptation were they changed roles of "key characters" around just like the show. People want to act like they know the series but that knowledge can be thrown right back.
@Catman498
@Catman498 9 ай бұрын
@@kblue1436 it’s actually mentioned in the SOTN Manual too. To be fair it’s never been an important detail to me all that much max just an interesting curiosityZ
@Raylightsen
@Raylightsen 6 ай бұрын
Because girl, FANS, that is why. Fans care for their franchise.
@Ninjaananas
@Ninjaananas 4 ай бұрын
Castlevania fans don't care about original Annette. No one does.
@Raylightsen
@Raylightsen 4 ай бұрын
@@Ninjaananas I watched this serie completely and is unwatchable. The only good thing is that Alucard appears at the end of the final episode.
@Ninjaananas
@Ninjaananas 4 ай бұрын
@@Raylightsen How did watch it if it was unwatchable? Anyway, Nocturne was awesome. Glad they are already making a second season.
@Raylightsen
@Raylightsen 4 ай бұрын
@@Ninjaananas Is a way of saying a show is so bad and/or boring, and it feels like an insane waste of time to watch it, and the person has to force himself to finish it.
@Ninjaananas
@Ninjaananas 4 ай бұрын
@@Raylightsen I know. I was messing with you.
@justanotherdxy
@justanotherdxy 9 ай бұрын
Making Annette black inadvertently potentially makes the most powerful & final Belmont black as well. Julius is a descendant of Annette so if we get that far in the story just expect a even bigger uproar.
@Radio-97
@Radio-97 9 ай бұрын
Except it doesn’t need to happen that. Having parents with different skin colors will be random of what the child inherits. Maybe dark skin, maybe fair skin, who knows. But look, the first Belmonts were actually from France and traveled to Romania and stayed there for a long time, so the Belmont line is having mixed cultures/ethnicities anyway at this point.
@SamuraiMotoko
@SamuraiMotoko 9 ай бұрын
I have heard that this season writting is trying to be edgier addinf a lot more "fuck" to the dialogue
@Dimitri1237
@Dimitri1237 9 ай бұрын
I wish they switched up the profanities 💀
@6shawp6tawk68
@6shawp6tawk68 10 ай бұрын
The only problem I have with race swaping is when it's done just for the sake of doing so , somtimes it really comes off as a shallow attempt at inclusivity. That being said I have no problems with Annette in this show
@CheekiTiki
@CheekiTiki 9 ай бұрын
Like am I crazy for thinking this Annette is a massive upgrade from the original, and that the "race swap" is actually handled really well?
@6shawp6tawk68
@6shawp6tawk68 9 ай бұрын
@@CheekiTiki not at all. I actually fully agree with you
@Ninjaananas
@Ninjaananas 9 ай бұрын
​@@CheekiTiki That is consens among people who are not going crazy over the race swap. It was also pretty much expected.
@CheekiTiki
@CheekiTiki 9 ай бұрын
@@Ninjaananas In hindsight, it's probably just invented drama more than anything. Doubt that many people care.
@Ninjaananas
@Ninjaananas 9 ай бұрын
@@CheekiTiki That's absolutly true. The anti-woke crowd just wanted another hate bandwagon to hop onto. And many people see that. This hate started two month before Nocturne even came out.
@dakkadakkajoe
@dakkadakkajoe 9 ай бұрын
I've been trying to argue that the reasons people are complaining about Annette is because her story is weak not because of something silly or woke. They never really explored the themes around her. Mainly just introduced them with really poor pacing. Compared to Isaac who's whole story is beautifully done. Also Olrox is Aztec who had a native American lover! Zahn McClarnon did a really good job bringing it together
@SistahPunkStudios
@SistahPunkStudios 9 ай бұрын
I would agree with you, too, if comments were mostly about the writing, but before the show even came out, most of the outrage was solely based on her skin color change. The critics and the video game purist would’ve actually had a valid argument if their brains didn’t melt over a black character.
@dakkadakkajoe
@dakkadakkajoe 9 ай бұрын
@SistahPunkStudios solid fair enough. My first video was generally a 50/50 on it but my second one I'm getting at least more thought out takes
@mercurialcelestial
@mercurialcelestial 9 ай бұрын
I'm writing a paper on castlevania (nocturne specifically) for a theory class I'm taking and this is such a great source. Thank you 💚
@Dimitri1237
@Dimitri1237 9 ай бұрын
I think the reason that people don’t have a problem with Olrox’s race swap is because we rarely see indigenous representation in media. Compared to Annette, the only thing about Isaac that was changed was his race & backstory. Isaac was both a forge master in the game & anime. Meanwhile Annette went from helpless damsel to a badass, equipped with supernatural powers. A complete 180. So why not make her into an original character? Give her a nice French name besides Annette. Camille, Amelie, Celine, Anais, Delphine, Elise, Claire, Gabrielle. The list goes on
@meaningfull4294
@meaningfull4294 9 ай бұрын
I think they were trying to stay true to the pairing of Richter x Annette
@BelieveIt1051
@BelieveIt1051 9 ай бұрын
The new Annette actually is a new character. She's not the original Annette, but rather a new one. The character that replaced the original Annette is Tera.
@Scoring57
@Scoring57 9 ай бұрын
Dimitri No, it's because white people just hate black people lol. They similarly ignore asian raceswaps. Stories change, why is that suddenly a big deal or something to point out, and only when it's with "diverse" or minority characters? I thought we got over this when it became the norm and obvious that most adaptations from other media will have a lot of changes. Hardcore fans almost never get what they want. But if they don't change much, people who still want to hate can say it's stale and old and that's why it's bad and they hate it. Then they'll be complaining about how "we need something new" or 'original stories'. Or 'you just did a skin swap you didn't even make them a unique character.' Just longer ways of saying "i'm racist'. If people want to hate they're going to find a way and make excuses for it. No need to jump onboard and make excuses for them or try to find "explanations"
@Scoring57
@Scoring57 9 ай бұрын
@@BelieveIt1051 Exactly what i was saying. If they didn't change the racists would come and say it's "just a skin swap".
@rasendori20
@rasendori20 9 ай бұрын
Naw i’m just assume it’s racism because that’s the easy answer.
@purepsyc
@purepsyc 9 ай бұрын
Yeah I never played the games but knew of them. Had a few friends who were into them. When Castlevania first came out and I remember doing my research and saying the series writers clearly had to put in work to get the storyline going. I honestly though the games they were based on were visual masterpieces with incredible storytelling. Anyways when Nocturne came out and I saw 1 the vampire succubus, I was indeed drooling. 2 Olrox, Lordy his body is gorgeous and he is a frickin cartoon and 3 as a Caribbean person and i student of history I was happy to see they linked the story to a pivotal moment not only in French history but Caribbean and world history. I’m here for it. There are some holes but they have done a good job linking back to African folklore and deity. Just like I need to get over that Olrox is a damn cartoon, gay and probably would never give me the time of day because I’m a woman ….. people need to get over that Annette is black!
@lucasbelmonte2832
@lucasbelmonte2832 8 ай бұрын
Yeah but people are here for the vampires not the world history, that’s what documentary’s are for, I get it, the damsel in destress are basically illegal now in western media, but honestly characters like “Annette” aren’t very interesting either, just another character with some cliche sad backstory and cliché motivations, I can’t like characters like her when in the season before I had a much better written and portrayed character in Sypha
@dreemgoat342
@dreemgoat342 9 ай бұрын
I not only love Annette, I also love that Voodoo and Ifa are getting some representation that’s not totally negative and “otherworldly”
@TurtleQueenLilith
@TurtleQueenLilith 8 ай бұрын
My issue with Annette is she is to simple in appearance and she is a bit of a forced character. Shoot they didn’t even have to name here Annette. She could have been a new character introduced into the series and I would be totes cool with it. Like dang. You can make the vampires and other characters look majestic and yet she is to simple in my opinion. Now I gotta say though Drolta Tzuentes is my favorite character so far. She is damn majestic 💜.
@beepboopbeepp
@beepboopbeepp 9 ай бұрын
As someone who didn’t even know she was white to begin with i actually really liked her character only thing connecting her to the original anette is the name anyways, her story is completely fresh and new so i don’t see the reason for the hate. Usually race swaps are bad because the story is the exact same, here that is not the case.
@nerdyafrican1185
@nerdyafrican1185 10 ай бұрын
I love Annette but I just don’t get coming out slavery and falling in love with a white dude 🤦🏿‍♂️
@SistahPunkStudios
@SistahPunkStudios 10 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣that’s a valid complaint
@nerdyafrican1185
@nerdyafrican1185 10 ай бұрын
@@SistahPunkStudios You still have amazing points. Even if Annette was an original character, they would still criticize because they on anti-blackness. Keep up the good work!
@chriscrossx3701
@chriscrossx3701 9 ай бұрын
I don't see a problem with " falling in love with a white dude" if she has a connection with said "dude". I have a problem with the fact that Annette and Richter barley have any chemistry/interactions that would indicate they were falling for each other.
@nerdyafrican1185
@nerdyafrican1185 9 ай бұрын
@@chriscrossx3701 It’s dope that you don’t see a problem with it. I still think it a weird situation but hey 👍🏿
@chriscrossx3701
@chriscrossx3701 9 ай бұрын
@@nerdyafrican1185 it's sad that you do see a problem.
@rosemartasgaminghoard
@rosemartasgaminghoard 8 ай бұрын
Because changing the race of an established character just for WOKE brownie points is bullshit. Also butchering her back story and in game/world lore to attempt to make it make sense is also bullshit. Could of made a new character but no had to change an already established and beloved character so you can attack fans and create conflicts.
@markmessi9020
@markmessi9020 9 ай бұрын
I loved Annette and thought this series was incredible. I was surprised to find out so many ppl hated it. Im the biggest castlevania fan, played all the games...this adaptation is incredible! I cant wait for season 2. P.S. the next Belmont is going to be mixed race if this goes the way I think it will. *Puts on headband* Let the Twitter wars begin!
@brynxiii9265
@brynxiii9265 9 ай бұрын
I have no problem with Annette being black. What I have a problem with is that she got a far more developed backstory than Richter and Maria, and even the villain, Elizabeth Bathory, who I don't give a fuck about. We honestly didn't need a whole episode focused on her and Edouard (I hope he dies soon tbh), because ok, the representation might have been good, but this is not a story about the Haitian revolution and slavery, or even about the French revolution, this is a story about the heir of a vampire hunters clan killing vampires. I get that they want to flesh things out, but the way they did it with Olrox was perfect. We didn't need a whole episode focused on Olrox backstory to love him as we do.
@ivantoe207
@ivantoe207 8 ай бұрын
As someone who is a fan of the games, and part Native American(father's side), Specifically Mi'kmaq, the race swap of Orlox just pisses me off. I'd much rather see an original Native American Character than a race swap, that's just lazy. What's worse with Orlox is that not only did they go the lazy route of changing his race, but they also changed the nature of his characterization from the games. The only positive thing I see is that Netflix did hire a Native American Voice Actor. I would have rather seen Jumlin, a spirit of Native American, specifically Abenaki, folklore that feeds on the blood of the living. In the four seasons of the original show, Hector and Issac were both portrayed differently that their in-game counter parts, but at the same time they were clearly side characters with their stories interwoven to the main narrative. Personally while the side story was interesting they could have given them any names and it would have been exactly the same impact on the narrative, missed opportunity here. My issue with Nocturne's portrayal of Annette is that her role in the story is not the same. The the games she is Richter's call to action, who also happened to be Maria's sister. Being a whiter than white pasty European had nothing to do with it. Her role in the story doesn't match the source material. What we got with Annette in Nocturne was a self insert from the two black female writers to bring in their own heritage and replaced the main character's call to action with someone who should have been an original character! There was an Original Character in Nocturne, Edouard. Despite being an original character the way he fit into the story was unique and interesting, a night creature that still has it's soul from life and who can awaken the souls in others is a concept that I'm curious as to how they develop. Consider if the original Annette was left in place and we got this instead of the lazy race swaps: Replace Orlox with Jumlin, and we have Jumlin kill Julia Belmont, this leaves Richter's story arch mostly intact, and he would still have his call to action. Take the Annette we got in Nocturne and change her name to Jacqueline, which is a more traditional Haitian name than Annette, and Eduouard are chasing a Soucouyant, an actual vampire like creature from Caribbean folklore, who is traveling to join the Vampire Messiah. This would be a more interesting story to tell, and bring with it a more honest exposure to the Haitian culture. I'm not going to defend the Annette we got here. Its not woke it's forced inclusion, by means of removing the original character's role, hell they even nerfed Maria to give Annette center stage. What we got was someone with such great potential as an original character, who would probably get more acceptance by the overall fandom if she were one. But until writers stop being afraid to tell their own stories with their own characters, this is what we'll keep getting. Oh wait I forgot about Trese, the Filipino's told their story with their own characters and it was well received.
@k1988smith
@k1988smith 10 ай бұрын
They made the character Annette so amazing, that she should have been an original character with a Haitian name similar to Annette. I just read "Skin Of The Sea" by Natasha Bowen and it made me smile so much to have a mainstream show mention Yoruba Gods that I just started learning about because of the book! The is the second time I'm commenting this, if Annette and Richter have children they will basically be Avatars!! We've seen the speakers do, Air, Water, Fire and now we throw in some Ogun - Earth! With Annette and Richter powers combined, I believe their children can save the world!
@Leaf-tf5oo
@Leaf-tf5oo 10 ай бұрын
Im soo happy to finally see a Haitian character in an anime!! Especially in my favorite anime!!!! 🇭🇹🇭🇹🇭🇹🇭🇹
@iklo7476
@iklo7476 9 ай бұрын
She's literally the only good character for most of the show.
@thewillof3543
@thewillof3543 9 ай бұрын
Yeah I wonder why ypu like her so much smh
@k1988smith
@k1988smith 9 ай бұрын
@@thewillof3543 Why did you use your life seconds to leave this comment? What are you shaking your head about?
@MechanistGamma
@MechanistGamma 9 ай бұрын
Considering the ridiculous power of Julius Belmont, the Avatar thing has more than a little backing to it. I don’t believe I’ve heard of the Yoruba Gods before Nocturne, but Annette has already sold me on just how interesting they can be.
@ladiezluvm3
@ladiezluvm3 23 күн бұрын
Remember in Coven Angela Basset spoke of how they stole their magic ✨️?
@DmDaPDm
@DmDaPDm 9 ай бұрын
Yo Sista, I love the way you explained this, you had receipts for those who want to talk nonsense. If the person is black, IT HAS TO BE WOKE, it can't be anything else. People don't know they've already excluded themselves from the conversation when they use that word.
@dirge341
@dirge341 9 ай бұрын
Actually, she failed to mention that it isnt about being woke. It's about sticking to the source material and taking too much liberty with characters. Thus that it tends to upset the fan base and kills the live action movies/animations. I get the whole It's a retelling of rondo of blood and symphony of the night. But in this case, while race swapping Isaac works well, for Annette it does not. They could have kept her white (cannon wise) and still worked in the same backstory with a few changes. Plus it's painfully obvious she's never played both games and is unaware of shaft and just why Annette along with Maria and three others were kidnapped. (For the record, I still think cv nocturne is pretty good. Despite my opinions on some things, I don't feel it did any injustice to the games or the series overall.)
@peepodhumperdink4456
@peepodhumperdink4456 9 ай бұрын
Shes a trash character with a contrived and terrible back story. Cope harder.
@Diogolindir
@Diogolindir 9 ай бұрын
I usually find distateful when they change original characters just because but I don't mind much when the characters are not developed that much in the original material. I mean, I didnt really play Rondo of Blood but for the lore I know, Annette wasn't that interesting to me. Isaac had more "personality" I guess but his adaptation made him better. Overall I really liked Annette in Nocturne but Olrox Is my favorite new character and he was just a minor boss in symphony of the night.
@Crabchann
@Crabchann 9 ай бұрын
The Aztec was the best character there hands down. He is so interesting.
@DartzTheGamer
@DartzTheGamer 9 ай бұрын
I'm just here to say that Drolta is my new vampire mommy and idc what anyone has to say
@lockonstrat3415
@lockonstrat3415 9 ай бұрын
**BACK OFF I SAW HER FIRST LMAO** 😂🎉😢
@BimRen246
@BimRen246 9 ай бұрын
I love your read... I also love the fact that they have included West African magic in Annette's story and covered her past connecting to European slavery and the revolution of Black enslaved people.
@blackbird7781
@blackbird7781 10 ай бұрын
As someone who played the Castlevania games, I will say that the changes to Annette are fucking awesome She was just a damsel in distress in the games and in this, she is so well written and tragic and uplifting! The original annette's backstory was ohhhh she dated richter and thats it
@blazingstorm9351
@blazingstorm9351 10 ай бұрын
As someone who is a fan of the series yet has not played any of the games. I think Annette is a damn good character. She is not Mary Sue as she shows a little struggle. She is strong yet isn't afraid to show vulnerability. If anything, my only little complaint is her and Richter's relationship, it went way too fast. At this point, these are the same team who did the same thing Isaac, from what I know, went from a masochistic BDSM enemy to one of the best developed characters in a while. So I think changing Annette did them a pretty good favor (so far).
@ayar2
@ayar2 10 ай бұрын
@@blazingstorm9351 also, lets not forget that Isaac development took up 3 seasons, not just one. so, expecting annette to be a perfect character from the get go is unreasonable at best.
@blackbird7781
@blackbird7781 10 ай бұрын
@@blazingstorm9351 ye! Also if ya want to get into the games, Castlevania Aria of Sorrow is a good starting point gameplay wise. Also ya can always just watch walkthroughs
@sheisforeverlearning828
@sheisforeverlearning828 10 ай бұрын
I dont remember hearing all this fuss with Isaac, who was a phenomenal character.
@d4darwin458
@d4darwin458 10 ай бұрын
Isaac was a better character Annette not so much
@nl_grimm5292
@nl_grimm5292 10 ай бұрын
@@d4darwin458it’s literally only one season compared to a 4 season character
@SistahPunkStudios
@SistahPunkStudios 10 ай бұрын
Isaac got a bit of hate too but way more developed of a character that earned respect 🫡
@williampearson6299
@williampearson6299 10 ай бұрын
@@d4darwin458 Annette is phenomenal as a character. You just identify more with Isaac, that happens with a lot of nerds. They can't identify with female characters. X-Men's Storm doesn't count because they only want their version who is under Professor X; the version a lot of black people want is the powerful force of nature who marries T'Chala in Wakanda.
@chuckingreaper8654
@chuckingreaper8654 10 ай бұрын
@@williampearson6299Or maybe it’s because she’s somewhat rushed in her development, only becoming better after the 5th episode. It’s not her being a woman that makes her unrelatable, but that she was kinda pushed to the forefront for over half the season. We got more of her tragic backstory then Richters and he’s the main character! Isaac also had a similar slave background to her, but it felt fairly established without taking away the focus of the story. They should’ve spaced out her tragedy more amongst episodes 1 - 6.
@angelbedolla347
@angelbedolla347 10 ай бұрын
The real question is when are Latinos and Asians get some love.
@SistahPunkStudios
@SistahPunkStudios 10 ай бұрын
Total side comment: the Netflix animated series Trese is about a Filipino bad ass magic detective and is practically the ultimate Asian and Latino themed representation. It didn’t get as much hype but it was so unique and vibrant
@ronj7658
@ronj7658 10 ай бұрын
​@SistahPunkStudios that was a good watch.
@Crazy_Gamer_OG
@Crazy_Gamer_OG 10 ай бұрын
Seis Manos is a really good animated show with pretty much all latin characters. Been wanting a second season for years.
@raphael_2d878
@raphael_2d878 9 ай бұрын
Nocturne is absolutely insane! I didn't care when they made Alucard bi, I didn't care when they made Isaac black, and I don't care that Annette is black now either. All these changes for me evolved what was already good and made it more interesting to me. I've played Rondo of Blood and Dracula X Cronicles and the most annoying thing about these games are the girls we have to save. So getting rid of that cliche in this adaptation should be celebrated. Besides, powerful characters that survived a historical slavery past make the story richer and more believable to me. I'm a huge fan of the games and I love both Castlevania and castlevania nocturne. The only thing I didn't like is how weak they made Hector which is a fan favorite character. And is completely reduced to a man child slave pet for female vampires, making Carmilla even more annoying here. But that was only season 3. The rest is pretty awesome.
@peepodhumperdink4456
@peepodhumperdink4456 9 ай бұрын
Isaac was a badass revolutionary who was trained by a godlike character and Alucard's interactions with Sypha and Trevor made him amazing along with his links to Dracula. Annette is a whiny diversity piece who has a convoluted back story and is irritating to watch LOL at the comparison
@elioamedeo
@elioamedeo 9 ай бұрын
I think most fans expect to see the game made into a show. Annette is not a redesign of Annette, she is just a different person which happens to share her name with the video game character. She's actually much better than the video game character, who was barely a character to begin with. It would have been the same if she had stayed white. I don't see any sense in calling her Annette 🙂
@ianesgrecia8568
@ianesgrecia8568 9 ай бұрын
For her argument of "black author work" look at Rippaverse. This was a black superhero from a black writer, but because he didn't comply with the woke agenda, the media didn't pay attention to him and the woke mob criticize him
@spatchmo6938
@spatchmo6938 10 ай бұрын
I completely forgot someone named Annette was even in Rondo of Blood
@silverferalgaming8548
@silverferalgaming8548 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, people should have complained about the purple hair that she has
@HotDogTimeMachine385
@HotDogTimeMachine385 4 ай бұрын
Netflix Annette is fantastic, her story and powers are amazing. Saying as someone who has ACTUALLY played the games
@keiserdiaz731
@keiserdiaz731 10 ай бұрын
SIS... TELL THEEEEEEM!!! GOD, I LOVE U ❤
@Kibatsume1
@Kibatsume1 10 ай бұрын
Bigger question is Why do companies think you are not worthy of your own unique characters? There are so many myths and legends that would make great stories. Mami wata ? The panther Queen ,Sarraounia? were hyena Just to name a couple What has happened since the 90s to today ? 90's I grew up watching smart guy, sister sister, meet The prouds, Family matters, moesha, kenan & Kel, fresh prince of Bel Air. I snuck into my first R rated are movie blade Trinity One of my favorite TV shows as I got older was Stargate SG-1 Christopher judge (teal'c) was the only cast member that was in each and every single episode of Stargate. The show brought in people of all races at one point or another original Roles none which felt forced. These were popular shows many people I went to school with watched Regardless of color . I've been studying patterns for a while call me conspiracy theorist if you will but it seemed social media has been set on creating a divide between colors. It started off with simple memes popping up online continued to grow. Generally speaking when the peasants unite usually leads to the downfall the current rulers... when we no longer fight amongst ourselves we pay more attention to what they are doing
@SistahPunkStudios
@SistahPunkStudios 10 ай бұрын
This I actually agree with, authors like NK Jemisin, Octavia Butler, or Nnedi Okorafor are amazing sci-fi authors with black original characters and stories to be adapted and I’d always prefer that than a remake in a different color. These are new stories that need to be told instead of the same old arguments
@carpathiandevil
@carpathiandevil 10 ай бұрын
And more recently, have you guys seen Idris Elba as Solomon Reed in Cyberpunk 2077 Phantom Liberty? That dude can do no wrong, put him in everything. I'm usually against race and sex swapping characters when it doesn't make sense, but I'm all for it if it doesn't matter. I'd love to see a 007 Idris Elba series of movies! That has been my argument for a long time, going back to what you said about companies not feeling like black people deserve their own original characters or leading roles in movies that have great currently existing black characters. There's tons of talent out there, let's see them work!
@primus3601
@primus3601 10 ай бұрын
NOPE the bigger question is why is it when charecters are REVERSE race swapped no one complains ? ?
@Scoring57
@Scoring57 9 ай бұрын
Kinatsume The question is why are non-black people like you deciding what black characters should have and should like? And why is it that the way you show this supposed concerned outrage for a lack of good black characters, is by attacking and hating those very black characters instead of trying to improve the overall situation? That's the real big question. We just want more black characters in the entertainment we watch and this is simply one way of doing that. As long as there are stories being told with originally all white characters, you're going to keep seeing black characters put into it. Get used to it. And it's going to be 'forced', because how else do you intentionally diversify a cast? You just do ine mene miny mo? They don't choose all white casts by mistake Also regardless of everything you said we know the same crowd of people would be attacking all black shows like the examples you gave and claiming it's "divisive" or even 'racist', blah blah blah, the same old prepackaged arguments. Like some people tried to do with Black Panther but it was simply too much of a cultural phenomena for that to have effect and it would also be too obvious you're racist if you aggressively hated on it. You want to pay more attention to what "they are doing" but you're busy attacking black people every couple months for being present in media. It's always b.s from you guys.
@dvb8637
@dvb8637 9 ай бұрын
​@@Scoring57So why not create a own character, story, anime etc instead of being lazy and racist to race swap? Smh. Or dont yall have that much interested stuff to tell?
@TheMasterShogun
@TheMasterShogun 9 ай бұрын
Here’s a simple question, why can’t she just have a new name? Why does she have to have the same name as an already established character that shares little to no similarities… Feels like too many people are being stubborn instead of coming up with the simple answer.
@insane2201
@insane2201 9 ай бұрын
That is my problem with her right there. She could have been her own badass character. Yet she had to "steal" a preestablished character's name. She isn't even close to the og person. That I found her to be annoying as fuck with how she belittled Richter every chance she got. Would have love more focus on the person who is suppose to be the main character.
@rtxy_truest4985
@rtxy_truest4985 9 ай бұрын
​@@insane2201i mean from her point of view Richter wasnt a legendary vampire slayer like he was suspose to be he was a coward who runs from his problems so of course she didnt like him at first, not every charater should automatcly like each other, or did you forgot that alucard and trevor hated each other for the first season?
@rexlapis1075
@rexlapis1075 9 ай бұрын
Exactly my point , she shouldn’t be Annette but a entirely different character , my problem is it’s not that she’s black but she litterally does not even have inkling of similarities to Annette if they kept some of her character I would be fine , but they ain’t even the same character. But I really love how they brought back juste Belmont a legendary Belmont which was forgotten for a long time , I am glad he got time to shine - I want him to play more of a important role because he’s one of the least known belmonts
@ZaneEX
@ZaneEX 9 ай бұрын
Because they love race swapping and rage baiting. Simple as that. Why make a new character that no one will have a problem with when you can take an already established one(regardless of how much character they have) and piss people off by making them annoying.
@ZaneEX
@ZaneEX 9 ай бұрын
@@rtxy_truest4985 She's a hot head that almost gets them killed multiple times from the moment she arrives on their doorstep and proceeds to shit on the person she came to for help every chance she gets. Her character is too far departed from the original.
@muffin0nmars534
@muffin0nmars534 9 ай бұрын
Voudun & Ifa being represented in such a beautiful way is everything to me, the white nationalist supremacists can go burn. Nocturne did amazing in every way even Ed’s awkward singing moments 😂
@midnightcoffee6463
@midnightcoffee6463 4 ай бұрын
In my opinion they could have avoided the drama if they would have swapped the names of Annette and Tera. Tera is like the Annette from the games (blonde, green dress, immediate connection to Richter and Maria, becomes a vampire, etc) The Annette we have in Netflix could have been called Tera and it would make a lot of sense because of her cool earth powers!
@mr.stuffdoer8483
@mr.stuffdoer8483 10 ай бұрын
Typically characters in stories that are intending to adapt something having significant changes bugs me (even the OG Percy Jackson movies bothered me by aging up the characters and making Annabeth a fucking brunette), but Castlevania seems to do a really good job still making them very good characters. Plus they tied her powers and backstory to her race in a really cool way. also from what I know this isn’t even super accurate to the games, which didn’t have a super significant plot to start with
@krismarshall3803
@krismarshall3803 10 ай бұрын
If only people actually focused on a character rather than how they looked lol. Initial viewing yesterday i had more issues with annettes personality, but it dimmed down the next day. Because we have ti realize these characters are a few years younger than the main cast last series. Theyre not adults yet so theyre going to be rash and do/say dumb things more often. (The fact i learned trevor was in early 20s gagged me lol). Not direct spoilers but like....anyone who saw the trailera can piece together a certain character "dying" (Eduoard running in the rain, surrounded by vampires, and Annette crying in the rain....yeaj i knew he was getting killed there lol). All i can say is that im thankful for Annette kinda growing at least in the last 2 eps, so her and Ritcher arent so confrontational with each other. Cuz i legit facepalmed when Annette kepts on called Ritcher a "Fucking useless coward" TWICE, even after learning why hes having PTSD. Her going "it happened in the past so he needs to get over it"...... GURL, because of your PTSD Eduard is in the postion hes in lol (blowing their cover) like i totally understand why youre filled with rage at that moment but like cmon, youre with a group her doing a covert missionXD dont give your position away. Her playing the "i suffered more compared to Ritcher" card was just low lol. Like yeah you technically did, but at the end of the day you still both lived through trauma. Its like if i was SA'd and my friend who was also SA'd goes "well i was abused by my parents all my life so i had it worse than you, stop acting like a victim" you see how bad that is XD. But ahem. At least her ancestors kinda set her straight to be more understanding lol. Idk how people are saying she was completely annoying and a horrible character. Like she just had one major bad slip up in an ep, and was acting like a hypocrite for 2 eps, but mellowed out the rest. Like she finally felt like part of the friend group as opposed to the the roommate that hangs around them and leaves when they want lol
@krismarshall3803
@krismarshall3803 10 ай бұрын
So with all that said, Annette isn't perfect and that's what I like about her. I tend to like characters that make me hit my head against the wall, but end up growing from it. I'm interested in seeing how everyone is going to grow, along with their powers(low-key hinting at Annette becoming a healer for more grave injuries, Maria still needing her 4th Cardinal Animal, etc). The heartbreaking showdown with Tera. Eduard and his night creature revolution, our 2 thicc daddies being gay together
@SistahPunkStudios
@SistahPunkStudios 10 ай бұрын
Thicc daddies had me hollering 🤪🤣🤣🤣 but OMG yes they really went hard on making Annette that hard headed kind of character who loses all reason once they wanna fight 🤦🏽‍♀️ you would think that she’d understand other peoples trauma better, but I also really loved how they made both her and Richters characters so complex, even in annoying ways are in ways that made them seem weak. But OMG I really start feeling old when I start getting frustrated with these damn teens who think they can save the world in one explosive battle, like y’all need to calm down and think this through
@BradLad56
@BradLad56 10 ай бұрын
Ricther's 19 so he's a young adult.
@supernaturalawesome1
@supernaturalawesome1 9 ай бұрын
I don't have a problem with the race swap. I just wanted more development for her. Her story and powers were really cool. We just had alot of characters to flush out and i think Annette and other characters suffered for it. I'm glad we're getting another season to explore everyone more and I'm excited Alucard is back. Looking forward to his dynamic with everyone and flashbacks on how his relationship with Trevor and Sypha ended. I'm already emotional thinking of him at their funerals 😢
@cyshadowx
@cyshadowx 9 ай бұрын
Sista punk i feel the same .i hate those 2 youtuber channels you know who .im glad to see character's with my brown skin tone getting some love .just block and ignore those evil harsh people dont worry about them they dont have a real vouce
@carlosenriquegarcesdavila8800
@carlosenriquegarcesdavila8800 9 ай бұрын
It is seen that Annete's role in the games will be played by Maria's mother, since in the game she becomes a succubus, and in Castlevania Symphony of the Night, the succubus transforms into Alucard's mother, and the mother Maria has a certain resemblance to Alucard's mother
@GaaraRules0
@GaaraRules0 9 ай бұрын
Im in love with Castlevania Nocturne! I rewatched it like 3x already. I love that the writing is so unapologetic about rising up against racism and classism. I cant wait for season 2 next year.
@leonardowickman57
@leonardowickman57 9 ай бұрын
Next year? Awwwww, do we have to wait that long? Urgh...
@lucasbelmonte2832
@lucasbelmonte2832 8 ай бұрын
Well that was what the French Revolution was about what else do you expect?
@kristi4113
@kristi4113 9 ай бұрын
Annette is the baddest. Whipping swords from deep in the earth’s core from iron ore? HELL YES. Sorcery to burn the asses off vamps? HELL YES. Thinking Richter was a fucking coward when he ran off from Olrox? HELL YES. When she trapped Vaublanc, that’s vengeance. Pure, unadulterated vengeance that she deserved to dole out to his filthy ass for killing her mom. I loved it!
@benelz8542
@benelz8542 9 ай бұрын
People on the internet r clowns there is no problem with Annette’s skin color to them her skin Color is the Problem I love Annette and was genuinely surprised that they had black characters in the show and I honestly didn’t even know the show was coming out i watched the First Castelvania show so yea I love both and honestly the Bigots and racists can stay mad 😂
@respectthefish4992
@respectthefish4992 9 ай бұрын
I love series Annette so much, what a character, bawled at her backstory
@mizushogun
@mizushogun 9 ай бұрын
Guys just letting you know, even if they changed her name and made her as an original character, the complaints & arguments would remain the same. Public opinion can be fickle at times.
@ReubenSmith-wb7ez
@ReubenSmith-wb7ez 10 ай бұрын
I don't want to upset anyone but I can see why both side would like and dislike I can see someone's how loves the game and probably grow up playing the game would be upset but I can see why people like the change I don't really care about the change bc I never played the games but as she said its a fantasy world
@ayar2
@ayar2 9 ай бұрын
Rondo of Blood simple narrative works well for a videgame, but not so much as an animated series, let alone one on this day and age.
@HomoAlone1
@HomoAlone1 9 ай бұрын
I really wonder how will they react when Alucard become Arikado
@Auvisome
@Auvisome 10 ай бұрын
The problem isn’t that she’s black. That’s reductive and a misunderstanding of the argument. The problem is that she’s a completely different character from the source with different lore and history. Netflix Annette could’ve been a completely different character and we would’ve been fine. The original Annette was Richter's childhood friend and girlfriend. She would’ve never badmouthed him, she was never a fighter, etc. And that’s fine, there is no need to retcon this character out. Even in the SNES release (albeit non canon compared to Rondo of Blood), she was written as Maria's older sister, which makes the race swap make even less sense. She is meant to be of Anglo-European descent. Netflix Annette is really cool. She has cool lore and cool powers, is good at fighting etc. But that’s a different character and should’ve been made a new character entirely to let her shine as an individual. Especially when the show writers try to force some chemistry between Richter and her, when she was previously unimpressed and hating on him, with there being ZERO chemistry being between them prior. It’s like they want her to be a badass independent woman, while also being Richter's loving girlfriend. It doesn’t work and it shouldn’t be forced. It’s literally not a problem about her being black, it’s a problem of her not being the same character yet being forced into a similar role. Just let her be her own thing. This extends to all the characters. Richter is a little bitch and is underpowered for the majority of the show. Maria would never call Richter a "dick" or "wanker", nor was she ever abrasive. These mfs swear way too often. Bartley become a God without much leadup. Downgrade from Carmilla. Alucard doesn’t need to be here until SOTN's plotline which happens 10 years later. Frankly, Edward and Orlox were the only compelling characters. Edward was an interesting addition, basically Devilman, although the Netflix writers made him useless. And Orlox was a beast, and his personality is pretty faithful to his lore. Him being gayer than Sin wasn’t a problem despite his sexuality being a new addition by the show; it didn’t violate his original characteristics. He is in the same position as Annette and only appeared in like one of the games officially, yet was adapted way better cause his lore personality was maintained. This was never about race. Even Castlevania Judgement, a spin off brawler released in 2008 for the Wii, despite not race swapping any of the characters, was heavily criticised by fans for completely altering and bastardising the designs and personalities of the characters. Again, this is pre Netflix Castlevania fans, people who have actually played the games, criticising the alteration of the source material in a spin off game. *TL;DR yes I’ve played and beaten many of the games, not that it makes a difference. Even though Annette was a minor character with like 5 minutes of screen time, why would that be an issue to expand on her existing traits for the Netflix series? Why do you assume that the only solution is to retcon her character entirely and make her a different character? Just have two characters. We don’t need to make compromises here.*
@NotCharAznable
@NotCharAznable 9 ай бұрын
Touch grass omg 😂
@kei7540
@kei7540 9 ай бұрын
If she was still white you wouldnt have typed any of this be honest
@BradLad56
@BradLad56 10 ай бұрын
I'd just like to point out that Annette in Dracula X Chronicles does actually get turned into a vampire and becomes a boss if you fail to save her so her role in that was expanded a bit at least.
@ayar2
@ayar2 10 ай бұрын
true, but is not really unique, Vincent from Castlevania 64 also turns into a vampire boss if you take too long to reach the castle keep.
@BradLad56
@BradLad56 10 ай бұрын
@@ayar2 I didn't say it was unique, I just pointed it out because it's something at least.
@motaman5936
@motaman5936 10 ай бұрын
@@ayar2yeah but is 64 really a castlevania lol
@ayar2
@ayar2 10 ай бұрын
@@motaman5936 its says in the title, canonical or not.
@Scoring57
@Scoring57 9 ай бұрын
@@BradLad56 Well if it's not unique to her then why does it matter? It means it's not *her* story because it happens to other game characters. ayar2 isn't wrong. Just seems like a simple game mechanic
@hackskrap
@hackskrap 9 ай бұрын
I absolutely loved it. Hopped on the net to join the discussion and was really disappointed to see all the hate it was getting. I wonder how long things will be this way because its really fucking annoying.
@twofacetoo75
@twofacetoo75 9 ай бұрын
The amount of dislikes this video's gotten in only 5 days is very telling. But not for the reason you think.
@Phyllion-
@Phyllion- 9 ай бұрын
My problem with Annette (and the entirety of this season, really) is that she's more a symptom of the bigger problem with Nocturne (and the previous show past the first season); the writers just don't seem to give a damn about the source material. Yes, Annette is a footnote with barely any plot relevance beyond "Oh Richter, save me before Dracula turns me into a vampire", but more importantly she's Maria's sister. (or old friend as yes, I know that there is a conflict over whether it should be considered canon considering the sister but was added retroactively with DX) Turn Annette into a kick-ass character? Absolutely, there are a trillion ways to follow rondo's plot beats without relying on the classic damsel in distress unable to defend herself; she could have sacrificed herself for the team, forcing them to go save her, she could have messed up during a fight and be defeated and kidnapped to be turned into a night creature, etc. Bring the Haitian revolution into the mix? Hell yeah, that's something that's barely ever touched in fiction, and it was a fascinating concept to see their side of magic. But was there really a need to break the original Annette's identity in its entirety and her ties to other characters to bring this plot? No, absolutely not. Netflix Annette could have been her own character, and it would have had the same effect without any impact whatsoever on the plot. Heck, Netflix Annette could have still been Richter's love interest if they really wanted to go that way for those two, all they would have needed is to find some interesting reason to have them break up, so he ends up with OG Annette later on. (Could have been interesting to explore the fears that come with dating someone that fights by your side and that you could see die at any moment, for example) Nothing even stops them from bringing them back together, as it's never confirmed that Richter and Annette become anything further after he saves her. Same shit with Tera, who aside the name has absolutely nothing to do with the original other than perhaps a very loose connection to religion through Emmanuel, who, if he's supposed to be Shaft, would be extremely stupid considering Shaft's concept as a character. And the worst of all are Erzsebet and Drolta, who, like Tera, have absolutely ZERO connection with their game counterpart. Heck, even the bond between the two is completely messed up as Drolta was her teacher, not her underling. Not to mention the fact that Erzsebet's plan of eternal night is absolutely stupid from a vampire perspective even from the show's unique lore as they are scientists, they should know the terrible consequences that a lack of sun would have on their own survivability in the long run. (though you could hand-wave it as them being short-sighted) Moreover, there's also the bigger problem that is that Elizabeth Bartley and Drolta are the antagonists of Bloodlines, a game that takes place over TWENTY years after Rondo (and thus Nocturne) and yet Drolta's already dead. The writers are just interested in grabbing names from the games to go "HEY LOOK, SEE? REFERENCES!" rather than take what's already existing and expand on it. Creative liberties are fine so long as they are kept in check, at some point it stops being creative liberties and instead veers straight into the 'loosely inspired'. Which is not what they advertise these shows as.
@Scoring57
@Scoring57 9 ай бұрын
Why should they? It's not a video game, and it's not made just for fans of the game.
@Phyllion-
@Phyllion- 9 ай бұрын
@@Scoring57 then why even grab that license and then promote it as an adaptation if it's not to please fans but instead create their own original (and bland I might add, or at least a solid 80% was) thing? If you're gonna create something original then don't use that license or at the very least make something new that doesn't break the established lore. How would you feel if someone took your favorite book or movie and decided to make a show out of it, promote the hell out of it and then proceed to completely mess around with its established lore and plot? Like look at DOTA or Dragon's Dogma, they grabbed the license but went fully original and owned that fact instead of acting as if it was going to be an adaptation of it. (Plus it was good, well, DOTA was, DD is a little more up to personal opinion)
@thedothackerkeyblademaster
@thedothackerkeyblademaster 9 ай бұрын
+1
@thesquishedelf1301
@thesquishedelf1301 9 ай бұрын
@@Phyllion- because capitalism. The first show started off as a love letter to castlevania, and got stupid popular to the point Netflix gave them free reign to run with it. Netflix has earned the license by this point. Give an take have to be made for any half-decent adaptation since movies, books, games all have completely different pacing requirements and strengths. You can whine all you want, but quite frankly, Netflix castlevania has demonstrated it’s inherent contempt for “gentle” characters. Game-Annette would have been drastically changed regardless to make her at all interesting or at least not a complete tonal whiplash from the brand Netflix have established.
@Phyllion-
@Phyllion- 9 ай бұрын
@@thesquishedelf1301 Like I said, I don't mind Annette herself being changed a bit to be more interesting. My problem is with completely breaking her identity by making her 100% unrelated to Richter and Maria. Improving a character does not necessarily mean undoing ALL they were before getting your hands on them, but that's what Netflix is doing. The only thing left of most of these characters are their names.
@thattrickytrickster612
@thattrickytrickster612 10 ай бұрын
I also said that as long as the characters are well written and thought out rather than being "diversified" to appease a certain audience, then the swap would be unimportant. I absolutely loved Annette, she wasn't overbearingly annoying for the sake of it. She has flaws, just like Richter, Maria, Mizrak and Olrox.
@ayar2
@ayar2 10 ай бұрын
kid annette was so cute
@iklo7476
@iklo7476 9 ай бұрын
She was by far the best character. The only complaint was ironically the opposite of most. I was a bit weird that the racism of slavery was kinda overlooked by vampires bad and when she left for France it was apparently absent amongst the French who enslaved Haiti in the first place. So she did in fact feel a bit tokenized to me but still best character.
@buntado6
@buntado6 9 ай бұрын
My disdain for overfetishization of African and Mesoamerican cultures is that, they NEVER do stories in those settings prior to the arrival of Europeans, as if the only moment they're "proud of their roots" is when there's a white guy in the story that can be blamed for all the bad things that happen in it. They won't dare make a story with a purely black or indigenous cast precolony, otherwise their villains will also be non-white, and they won't have foreigners to blame for the heinous acts they commit. Compare that to the mainstream reach we see in stories set in ancient Japan or China, they do fantasize about living in that setting, not about feeling like victims.
@kernelparadigm
@kernelparadigm 9 ай бұрын
"Can we build a straw man"
@komerihimura
@komerihimura 10 ай бұрын
Honestly, I don't mind that Annette was black or could fight. I just would like it if her name was not Annette cause it's not the same character to me
@mizushogun
@mizushogun 9 ай бұрын
Neither was Issac
@ronj7658
@ronj7658 10 ай бұрын
The black succubus was my favorite character.
@ShadowRealmZ373
@ShadowRealmZ373 10 ай бұрын
Drolta is hot
@BradLad56
@BradLad56 10 ай бұрын
@@ShadowRealmZ373 and very, very dead
@jasapotato8362
@jasapotato8362 10 ай бұрын
They dripped her out in every scene like, damn. So wait, she is a straight up succubus? Not a vampire?
@ayar2
@ayar2 9 ай бұрын
@@jasapotato8362could explain her black sclera and tail and wings when transformed.
@jasapotato8362
@jasapotato8362 9 ай бұрын
@@ayar2 i just thought it was unique vampire features, but now that you mention it, both her and Varney do have strange eyes.
@jerrym1218
@jerrym1218 8 ай бұрын
I remember a quote I once heard, it goes like this. “The world is yours now, weather you choose to be exactly like those who oppressed you in the past holding boots to the neck, is entirely up to you, and if your fate is to become exactly like those you once fought against and wished to be free from, then in the end you have learned nothing, and truly lost your humanity”. To me, this is an alternate timeline set in an alternate universe in the Castlevania franchise. We have the original timeline. The Gabriel Belmont timeline. The Netflix timeline. You can play or watch whichever you want and enjoy whichever one that truly speaks to you.
@vertyisprobablydead
@vertyisprobablydead 9 ай бұрын
I don't think you have the right to say any girl has a problem.
@lazarusrex9545
@lazarusrex9545 9 ай бұрын
Can we rece swap T'Chala?
@magivenderstudios
@magivenderstudios 2 ай бұрын
Heck if they race swapped T’chala people would throw hands or some of the people don’t even bat an eye
@tomy_blon7355
@tomy_blon7355 10 ай бұрын
Zodwa Nyoni, a black women actually wrote episode 3 that showed Annette’s backstory🙏🏻
@SistahPunkStudios
@SistahPunkStudios 10 ай бұрын
That is amazing and really makes that whole backstory so much more intimate and emotional from Annette’s childhood 🥹 I also found out that Thuso from the woman King is her voice actor too, so all criticism aside I’m glad to see an attempt at real representation.
@harvestcanada
@harvestcanada 10 ай бұрын
Precisely, and it is better for it.
@TheDetectiveEngineer
@TheDetectiveEngineer 10 ай бұрын
Ahh, it all makes sense now...
@sokkaoaf2699
@sokkaoaf2699 9 ай бұрын
I just finished this series and was BLOWN AWAY! I’m an ATLA geek and have tried a few anime series but they’re too slow for me. This show was action packed from pilot to its finish. I can’t wait for the second season!
@Darkmilo13
@Darkmilo13 6 ай бұрын
Problem I had new castlvania writing and pacing. There were parts of the episode a bit rushed. Also Richter felt wasn't good enough to be lead. Annette's friend didn't like him. His singing was annoying. I did like Annette back story and reason. I will admit I don't like some changes because I get it adaption to series you want to do something different. The show should've had a bit more episodes to give time for some characters developed maybe two episodes or so
@hyperturbofox17
@hyperturbofox17 9 ай бұрын
Netflix should make their own Castlevania that took place in Africa by the help of Konami.
@efiniGTX
@efiniGTX 9 ай бұрын
Then it wouldn’t be castlevania whatsoever. I do think Netflix should be making original African works rather than appropriate past works and disregard the original.
@hyperturbofox17
@hyperturbofox17 9 ай бұрын
@@efiniGTX There is a Castlevania that took place in Asia before and it's called Aria Of Sorrow.
@nyny.confidential74
@nyny.confidential74 10 ай бұрын
yeah I said folks who’re still complaining about the “source material” when it comes to Annette needs to not watch the show🤷🏿‍♀️. If it’s not media that’s stereotypical, violent, or displaying our trauma…people believe black people don’t belong in other genres (fanstasy and syfy especially). Her backstory (Haitian Revolution) fits well with the plot (French Revolution). I don’t wanna s*** on Olrox bc native peoples deserve representation but they should’ve inspired his character from indigenous peoples who were colonized by the French (like the Algonquin peoples) not an Aztec vampire. But it doesn’t surprise me that folks ignore actual problems with this show (pacing, character interactions, and writing) to s*** on a beautiful dark skinned black woman 🤦🏿‍♀️
@SistahPunkStudios
@SistahPunkStudios 10 ай бұрын
I hear you people focus more on the way a character looks than the actual substance of whether the writing is actually good. This was never meant to be a faithful adaptation and people are worried about the wrong things 🤷🏽‍♀️
@nyny.confidential74
@nyny.confidential74 10 ай бұрын
@@SistahPunkStudios facts !
@Auvisome
@Auvisome 10 ай бұрын
Just make her a different character, numbskull. You can have ur Vampire enslavement revisionism while keeping the original Annette too.
@ayar2
@ayar2 9 ай бұрын
@@Auvisome everyone forgot annette even existed after rondo of blood, and now that she's been redesigned everyone acts as they have lost a celebrity.
@Auvisome
@Auvisome 9 ай бұрын
@@ayar2 She never appeared in subsequent games. Why would they talk about her? But now Rondo is being adapted, preserving the source material should be the priority. Is this all that surprising? Especially when it's a complete redesign in lore, backstory, ethnicity, etc.
@mosescola4174
@mosescola4174 9 ай бұрын
Elisabeth B. and Drolta has historically accurate characters in the castlevania timeline.
@marieve5586
@marieve5586 9 ай бұрын
Seen some hate on Olrox' change too. That he isn't bald pale nosferatu anymore. Those people even going in commets under fanarts of Nocturne version and being all "b***h please, this is Olrox [insert game version]".
@Maester0
@Maester0 8 ай бұрын
Okay then, then make Black Panther a white guy then 😂
@jhonvillafane7474
@jhonvillafane7474 9 ай бұрын
You laid out all these cloaked "criticisms" and stated plainly how these people really feel and I'm here for it. Well thought out vid and def looking forward to season 2 of nocturne.
@uncrownedking2117
@uncrownedking2117 9 ай бұрын
I'm ngl i didnt play the original game but i watched videos about the original story. And I'm so happy it was changed in the anime series because having a basic damsel in distress character is beyond boring.
@ren_kitsune
@ren_kitsune 10 ай бұрын
I LOVE Annette. I was so happy to get to know more about miscellaneous black cultures. Not sure I was sold on her romance with Richter though. I dunno where that came from 😅 I liked her with Edouard so much...
@necrodruid_
@necrodruid_ 9 ай бұрын
Edouard had a partner, or at least love interest, the boy who worked with him
@ren_kitsune
@ren_kitsune 9 ай бұрын
@@necrodruid_ oh right, sorry, I forgot
@aclevername7613
@aclevername7613 9 ай бұрын
The romance is dumb as there is no chemistry shown between them. Its only due to in the game the origional anette they used the name of and race swapped is Richters fiance so chances are they are trying to push the romance in the game between these two even though theres no grounds for it.
@Elias-ws6nz
@Elias-ws6nz 9 ай бұрын
Everyone's upset about Annette but no one had an issue with Isaac
@edo5407
@edo5407 9 ай бұрын
Isaac was well written, complex and calculated. Heck, he changes his mind after seeing all that is happening and saves the day! Annette is a Mary Sue. Period. It’s lazy, boring writing.
@waelliam1179
@waelliam1179 9 ай бұрын
Because Isaac is a well written character. And his arc is one of the best.
@Elias-ws6nz
@Elias-ws6nz 9 ай бұрын
But everyone's issue is that she was black washed and this is the only the first season Isaac had four seasons to build his character.Anette got her friend killed so I'm not sure how much of a marry sue she is.
@monn-tan
@monn-tan 9 ай бұрын
Nono. People had a huge issue with Isaac back when he was introduced. But when the seasons went by, many seen how well-written he is.
@hectorrodriguezgonzalez8938
@hectorrodriguezgonzalez8938 9 ай бұрын
They did acctualy
@human-animalchimeraprohibi2143
@human-animalchimeraprohibi2143 9 ай бұрын
All this racism is done made the internet lose its way. There should be waaaaay more rule 34 Drolta content by now.
@Draconicrose
@Draconicrose 9 ай бұрын
Oh thank fuck. I thought this video was going to tell me that something about Annette's character is racist. I love Annette, she's cool af.
@monn-tan
@monn-tan 9 ай бұрын
In the end, everything boils down to the quality of the writing
@mdr8333
@mdr8333 10 ай бұрын
The problem with this is they doing this every series and everymovie its not just castelvania. And all women become the same, I dont have problem with make black character ,but original or new character If its be black character who race change,all people start to cry and call it racist
@williampearson6299
@williampearson6299 10 ай бұрын
Well, they have to expand to non-fans. Netflix is global and it's beneficial to introduce I.P to people who have never heard of it before. Asians and whites are heavy gamers. Black people, especially women, are still an untapped market for the industry and they have massive spending power.
@dvb8637
@dvb8637 9 ай бұрын
This bro exactly this. Its not just castlevania its litterally every serie, movie anime etc that they do race swap and lgbtq bc. This aint anymore just about lets do this or that. Its a agenda they force into us. And your last sentence is pure facts! Let us race swap their blk characters into white characters and lets see how blk people will react and talk. We both already know they gonna rage, rant and scream racists and racisme. These people are a bunch of hypocrites but mostly... lack off having reflection.
@lucasbelmonte2832
@lucasbelmonte2832 8 ай бұрын
So if her and richter get together and the series gets that far it most likely means that the most important and powerful Belmonte will look like. If people get annoyed about a side character like Annette being race swapped how will they feel about Julius
@Jesus_Zendejas
@Jesus_Zendejas 10 ай бұрын
Hard to find an actual review of the show because of the fake outrage of the race swapping. I dont like Annette but not because shes black, but her character wasnt well written.
@xaviergrimes8156
@xaviergrimes8156 10 ай бұрын
Still do not like anette but her character is changing ima hold a negative opinion till season 2 then a fresh slate
@grovelchieftain2282
@grovelchieftain2282 9 ай бұрын
She was(IMO) the best written character in the show( her and olrox). Two of my favorites.
@sheep9546
@sheep9546 9 ай бұрын
She was the worst written character
@marcoscruzherran7385
@marcoscruzherran7385 9 ай бұрын
Worst and most annoying character
@Crabchann
@Crabchann 9 ай бұрын
Best written is the Aztec , worst written is the slave.
@jaydub7386
@jaydub7386 9 ай бұрын
You've got the mouth of a sailor.
@mokasaam1819
@mokasaam1819 9 ай бұрын
I love Annette and she is my favourite character in castlevania.❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
@kita2361
@kita2361 10 ай бұрын
I think it’s really weird how people ignore the character growth that Annette had in the later episodes just to frame her as this perpetually angry character. It’s much more interesting to me to see a flawed and complex character who changes and grows into a better person, than a character who is just perfect from the start. That moment where she reconciled with Richter was genuinely very sweet.
@idk-ye7ur
@idk-ye7ur 10 ай бұрын
Still kinda weird tho, she blames herself for "abandoning" Eduart, but no for getting him killed, also kinda hypocrite for her to be angry at Rid when she also f up. She develops, but for weird reasons. They don't touch on what actually matters. She and Rid are my fav characters, but c'mon, the writing is sus.
@mr.stuffdoer8483
@mr.stuffdoer8483 10 ай бұрын
@@idk-ye7urShe had to fight to survive, and she came to this apparent vampire hunter for help, he acts confident, then immediately ran away. Makes sense for her to be annoyed with him initially.
@kita2361
@kita2361 10 ай бұрын
@@idk-ye7ur *long comment incoming* Yeah she definitely acted immature and a bit hypocritical at times. But I think her anger at Richter came from the fact that she was led to believe that he would be a great help against the vampire messiah. She risked a lot and went on a very long journey to France just to find him, only for him to abandon them in the middle of a fight. She felt betrayed, but her ancestors tried to get her to see things from his perspective and have a bit more empathy. I don’t see the writing as “sus”. She’s intentionally written to be flawed and make mistakes, but she shows clear growth. In the same way that Richter does when he finally gets his magic back and decides he will never ever run away from a vampire ever again. They both grew as people and were able to reconcile, and that’s what makes it good writing in my opinion.
@angrybrony
@angrybrony 9 ай бұрын
oh purely to make the show look bad.
@BearManley
@BearManley 9 ай бұрын
@idk-ye7ur She has every right to be upset with Ritcher for flat out running away in the middle of a fight. She didn't WANT to leave Eduart. She wanted to stay and fight. She had to be talked out of doing that because that would have been foolish. She knows her inability to control her emotions in that instant got them discovered when they were supposed just do recon. And she blames herself for not staying and fighting harder for him. Her and Ricther didn't do the same thing.
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