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Carol’s original book has definitely garnered a following of pretentious critics who projected a little too much of their own perceptions and interpretations onto the material, when really, the author’s true intentions were just to entertain a little girl. In a way, it’s almost become the opposite of “Gulliver’s Travels”, where the latter’s social satire has become generally regarded as a mere children’s book. It’s incredibly ironic.

huuhhhh Alice is my favourite Disney film wym, there’s a plot, alice is charming and flawed, a little defiant and cheeky yet obviously has some behaviours adopted from adults who clearly talk to her - I’ve always loves that it was jokey and fantastical but mostly an interesting story about a girl that does NOT revolve around having a love interest. I love alice in wonderland.

This movie has always been one of my all time favorites, but even before I'd read the book, I always wondered why no one had sympathized with her in Wonderland if it was supposedly *her* world. I was honestly surprised to know that the movie was going for a message about being careful what you wish for because i didn't see it like that at all when I'd first watched the film. I always viewed it, especially after reading the books, as a fantasy/self-fulfilling world for Alice.

I like the movie and think it is a good story

I always thought this movie was a more trippier Wizard of Oz .

This is in my top 5 classic Disney movies tbh. It's so artistic and abstract at times, it really lends itself to Wonderland's chaos.

In my opinion, I think American McGee adapted the Alice in Wonderland story the best Yes, this version of the story in the game is twisted and dark as hell, but the whole "defining flaws in our society" is definitely understood the best when it is sharpened and makes a lasting traumatic impression when told as a psychological horror story.

....The cat's name is Dinah. Through the Looking Glass is a much better fever dream. Lol I love Alice trying so hard to do things in the shop and failing over and over again because reality keeps mocking her. Get got, rich kid.

This video is how I learned the older girl in the film was Alice's sister. I always thought she was a governess.

5:10 Her cat’s name is Dinah

Oddly enough, both Alice and Wendy Darling had the same voice actress!

There was nothing wrong with Alice in Wonderland. It is perfect.

definitely one of my favorite animated movies!! this video was great :)

You know, I’ve never head of anyone disliking this movie before. You have a neat perspective. I disagree entirely, as Alice in Wonderland is my favorite silver age Disney film. However, it's interesting to hear what you think its shortcomings are as I never thought of them myself.

I remembered that this movie is on Disney plus and it's also in the program Once Upon a Studio. As a matter of fact, this is my first favorite Disney movie along with Mary Poppins. I remembered that on the masterpiece version of this movie, it's the Mickey Mouse cartoon Thru the Mirror.

I love Walt Disney's Alice in Wonderland. Just from the look of the backgrounds and animations, it's gorgeous. I get annoyed that people think movies always need an overarching plot or moral. It's boring. I think your critique of Disney shoving in a "be careful what you wish for" moral is thoughtful but overall, it's good they stuck with the book. The problem is changing it *too much* not *too little*

Still my favorite movie ever

The book is meant to have no meaning so why should the movie have? I don’t think is has to. And it’s more believable, that in her dream Alice reflects the real world. All somehow off, but still a childish reflection. Not the world she would have dreamed of but the world she has a dream about. There is nothing to learn, nothing to achieve. Just a dream on an afternoon nap.

Awesome video! Amazing in-depth analysis, good editing! Can't wait to see more from you :D

Yea, I liked the movie, but it's really just a C+, meaning good but not great, I mean it's not as weak as The Sword in the Stone, but it's the one I like the 2nd least from the Silver Era, I mean I like the wonderland part of it with all the characters, but I felt it didn't really give a strong enough story, but it had enough good humor to where I could give it a like, but it's on the light level of like.

in the book shes 7! in the movie she looks 13 or 14

"It's a handmade tale" 👍🏾 (1:35)

Its one of my faves

This is my favorite movie of the Silver era, but I'd say one thing that hasn't aged very well is the repeated upskirt shots of a girl who's like 11 years old. I guess it was forgivable back then because not as many people simped over animated characters back in the 50s, so I can't really blame Walt Disney or anyone on that movie's development team for this, but it's still something that hasn't aged well, because it makes a child way too easy for people to sexualize.

Great work!

Very informative and engaging love it!

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What?! I've ALWAYS been obsessed with this movie growing up. Alice bland?! Hein? She so feisty and curious and proactive. She's anything but bland

It was a movie ahead of its time.

i think that alice in wonderland 1950 version is supposed to be like the louis Carroll version but isn't, it's just alice walking around in wonderland and talks to dinah her cat in the real world.

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I do concede it has its issues but it is genuinely weird to me how the fandom so disowns it more than even The Black Cauldron or Chicken Little or Home on the Range, any of which have more issues than Alice ever did. It lost money for the studio, sure, but so didn't Sleeping Beauty, Fantasia, and Treasure Planet...

i watched this every day sometimes twice when i was little it was made in 1951 so it shouldnt be adapted to how kids like today. in the 80s we were supposed to be boring and dainty

Basically everyone who claims a movie is bad because it "followed the source material _too closely"_ has got something majorly wrong with them. Fortunately, you had a lot more to say than that, but seriously... how can you possibly claim it was "too close to the book" with a straight face? Assuming you said it with a straight face? I'm not gonna go over a hundred little nitpicky differences, but most of the dialogue is different, the order of everything's different, scenarios from both books are used, and ones from both are missing. It's closer than _Jungle Book,_ where supposedly Disney started production by holding up a copy of the book and throwing it in the trash, then saying to his team "Your first order is _not_ to rēad the book" (or something). In any case, I don't really understand where people are coming from when they claim that characters who's decisions don't affect the plot aren't relatable. What kinds of lives are you leading? No decision I was allowed to make ever had any lasting consequences, my life's been one big horrible railroaded RP with a dozen DMs that actively hate me... okay, I'm being a _bit_ hyperbolic now. Although, that _is_ a good point about the King Midas thing. Alice can't really learn to "be careful what she wishes for" if her wishes don't fail ironically _because_ of what she wished. I mean, there's "In a world where flowers and rabbits talk, they can be rude," that's _halfway_ there.

It’s my favorite one

As a child, I'd read the book, and I'd seen the animated movie. Back then, I enjoyed both. When my sister was a child, we both enjoyed the movie. But now, as an adult, I can see why the movie was flawed. My mom had told me that Lewis Carroll was a mathematician, so the book was supposed to be based on skewered logic. But then the Walt Disney Studios had come along, and turned it into a cutesy, nonsensical movie. Now, I have nothing against Disney. But clearly, the movie was unfaithful to the book. I suppose Disney wanted a simplified version of the book, for audiences to understand. Charles Solomon, the author of The History of Animation, had mentioned that the movie didn't fare well with British audiences, and I can see why. They take their literature very seriously. I would also have to agree that in this version, Alice wound up as lonely as she did at the beginning of the movie. Her sister was cold and calculating towards her, and her only friend was her cat, Dinah. She imagined Wonderland to be a place where she could be accepted and find a sense of belonging but found no real connection or solace. The Wonderland characters are mainly antagonistic towards her, except for the Chesire Cat, and the Un-Birthday party doesn't feel earned. At the end, her sister didn't even try to understand her fantasy. "Caterpillar? What are you talking about? Oh, come along. It's time for tea." She and her sister had no real connection, either. Clearly, this movie would've been better, if it had been more fleshed out.

Aside from "Alice in Wonderland" being unfilmable, it already had a distinctive look, due to the original illustrations, which the Disney artists completely ignored. And you can't replace the topsy-turvy logic of the prose with sight gags and mediocre songs.

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