It’ll be a bigger deal soon when the USA Theodore model hits the news waves

Dude, those Theodore models sold out in a day. What are you talking about??

Probably all sold to PRS lawyers so they can argue they were confused by the name and thought they were actually buying a PRS, not a Gibson. ​@@rxdoctordaddy1795

@@rxdoctordaddy1795 it's going to be a USA/not custom shop model soon. There'll be a humbucker version as well. No walnut stripe down the center.

@@rxdoctordaddy1795They sold out in a day when people thought guitars were investments. I would be willing to bet a kidney people that purchased one thinks they will be worth a million dollars soon.

I will never buy a Gibson because they're an overpriced piece of "okay" musical equipment

😂 beautiful dose of reality

2009 toyota matrix, 2019 Mazda MX-5, 2023 Mazda CX-9, 2009 Subrau STI. Ruin my mediocre cars for me please!

@@zynosgd9982just get a used one. I got mine pretty cheap. You are right, they are average builds.

Tell us some good stories either way 😊

Well, they can't be caught red-handed focusing on building the best guitars for the money! That would just be too easy. They'd prefer to argue over 70 year old intellectual property than build what the modern player wants.

You can't just not pay your bills to save money and pay that savings along to your customers. Not if you want to continue to own your company, because your creditors will be happy to take it off your hands.

His name is on a lot of the patents from the 50s and PRS went to him to learn how they made the Les Pauls back then

Paul Smith basically credits Ted McCarty as his mentor especially in the early days of his company and the two enjoyed a close friendship. Modern Gibson has little to no ties with Ted or the company he ran. If you want a more gibson inspired instrument with closer roots to Ted buy a Heritage

As an attorney and a guitar player, I would’ve passed on these two cases. They are absolutely ridiculous and ludicrous. Then again, I am one of the few that consider our profession a true Vocation in the service of Justice and to uphold our societal values, not a means to take advantage of the Law in order to make a buck.

How wonderfully naive. Of course lawyers instigate. Fat more afternoon than not, civil suits could have been handled with a mediating counselor. Lawyers are the only people telling people to go get money instead.

@@bensepulveda71 What do you mean "take advantage"?

I still hate lawyers even though I need them. They make it really easy.

My best friend is a lawyer. I hate him most of the time.

FACTS!!!

People are shit, they also hate cops, till they need them. Then they are ready to suck em dry......

Exactly what i was thinking lol. Two of the biggest lawyer/dentist guitar brands

People want to shit on a $5k Custom, but forget the Dragon, Private Stock, and not least Fender Custom shop charging $20k+ for a copy of, not a beloved multi celebrity owned burst, but a basic tele painted badly by a stoned Satanist, aka Page. How many companies have the sheer balls to charge 5 figures for a bolt neck? I know at least one!

@rocketpigrecords3719 yeah but PRS business model isn't built around selling limited edition remakes of guitars from 40 years ago. The bulk of their business comes from their SE import line and their S2 American line. Both those ranges top out around $1300 and $2500 respectively

@@daniellowry660 Gibson and Fender basically repeatedly say to their customers: "None of our ideas since around 1960 are good".

@Scott__C exactly. I just wish gibson actually cared about some of their pre 60s designs namely their archtops.

Most of the time

Well, Gibson sold guitars using someone's name without permission, so you can argue they also made out.

By now someone should be remaking the old mij designs but with modern parts and build quality, a proper tulip or "hounddog taylor" would probably sell well

Fender would if they could. They didn't when they should. So now they can't. (And Gibson isn't really a saint when it comes to lawsuits...soooo)

PRS has basically copying Gibson also. I mean the McCarty 594 single cut...

Stop simping, fan girl. fender is a souless global company, it's not Leo's company anymore.

No PRS was sued based on the same thing(PRS McCarty 593 singlecut, they also sued heritage guitars), and this is merely a tit for tat because Gibson trolls the industry compared to others. Also technically Fender has no grounds to stand on legally speaking with the body shape itself because of agreements they made during the lawsuit era of Japanese copies, Fender has no issues because they have no need to patent and copyright troll the industry like Gibson does, Gibson is the most aggressive because frankly speaking they are mismanaged and constantly having bankruptcy issues .

I agree

Wait till Epiphone sees his logo

Keith Urban is building his case against Esteban as we speak

If I was the guy that designed the cup holder for the lawnmower I'd be 😡!

Nope. Trademark disputes happen in every country, and even internationally, between parties in different jurisdictions.

@@sagittated you are very smart.

That's not the only kind of confusion that trademark law protects against, though. Name, image, & likeness laws protect famous people (and their estates) from having someone trade on your name to sell their stuff.

Theodore was his real name. The Gibson patents are under "Theodore M. McCarty". He couldn't legally use Ted because that was his nickname. These guys don't know what they're talking about.

In the US, you have a constitutional right to have your grievances heard by the courts. Have at it.

Lawyers arent the ones initiating said lawsuits Greedy asshole corp execs wanting lawsuits PAY lawyers to on staff to do such things. Lawyers,..having bill to pay,.like anyone else,..do their damn jobs

Attorneys talk people out of filing lawsuits all the time.

but they have sold "faux bone" plastic buttons for a long time now.... I think the shape of the new button is nice

Maybe because Gibson makes sh** guitars across the board that's why people go to PRS. If you want a humbucker or p90 guitar, get the thing you want. If you want single coils, get the guitar you want. The electric guitar isn't confined to two brands anymore, and frankly, other manufacturers come out of the woodwork making better guitars anyway. If any guitar that is set up well, has no hardware faults, and all guitars under the same brand doesn't sound good to you, it's a "you" problem. You lack the chops.

Yes he and paul were friends

​@@ScottsGuitarPaul is no one's friend. If Paul were an ice cream flavor, he would be pralines and dick.

You could be right, but in the description of that video they list everything used in the video with a link for it. The Theodore link pulls up the original discontinued version.

@@charlesbolton8471 I think it is legit. Cesar Gueikian leaked a picture from this variant from the Gibson USA factory floor

Projection from a peasant....

@@drsrsv8884 lol...I am such a peasant I had to Google " projection" just to see if this guy was praising me or cussin' me. Most of my gigs for 40+ years have paid only about 100$ per man. I'd feel like an idiot playing anything other than a sub 300$ instrument at any of my jobs. Plus it is just so fun to out shoot some sporting clays guy who has a 5k$ gun with my 700$ gun So fun to outcast a guy who has a 1000$ fly rig while mine cost 100$ And a delight to out-play some guy who is playing a 3500$ axe while I have a 133$ Grote. It makes life fun for me. Few guitar buyers play well enough to warrant owning anything beyond a 300$ axe. Most need to spend some money on lessons.

@@rustyshackleford9557 Nothing to do with kindess. Funny you mention being nice, when you are putting people down, to make your sorry ass feel better. Talk about ego🤢 Having $$$ doesn't mean you can't play guitar, it's actually the opposite. Peasants can just play low skill blues licks, but people who can afford lessons, can play things that take skill. That's from my experience, being in music.

@@drsrsv8884 lol....I hafta go back and read these comments every once in a while. It isn't everyday a person experiences being called a " peasant"

@@rustyshackleford9557 I always make an effort, You're Welcome!

How is this organized crime? Rich people buy $$$ things, becuase they have beans for it. Not everyone is a peasant, look at things from their pov

​@@drsrsv8884 I said "the gear industry has some historic ties to organized crime". Here you go: Counterfeit musical instruments, Stolen gear sales, illegal imports and exports, fraudulent on-line sales, protection rackets, money laundering and the list goes on... It's an industry that at the production and retail level is ripe for organized crime to step in and has stepped in and infected it. Does that mean every retail store is part of organized crime? No and that is not what I said or implied.... People are making huge amounts of money off replicating circuits of pedals, you can buy a cheap import from a brand like Behringer or buy some boutique built thing and in many cases, it's the same god damn circuit inside that box and that circuit was copied from some older circuit. No I do not find any of this on the up and up. It's all fucking bullshit and fairy dust. Most of the artist signature models aren't in any way designed by the artist. They are designed by luthiers who then get the artist to play it, maybe change the color of the knobs or fretboard wire type and stamp their name on it to sell, sell, sell... Look, business are in business to make money. We all know that. But you have people buying things they believe were designed by people who did not design them and in some cases didn't even build them... In the 1980s and 90s, we started having luthiers like Ed Roman come out and disclose that often time for special high profile artist, the Gibson and Fender "custom shop" just meant outsourcing the build to a small shop luthier of the players choice and the big manufacturer, knowing their assembly line guitars not up to the artist standards would allow this "ghost building" to happen. Gibson or Fender name on that headstock for the photo ops, but it never came from an assembly line or custom shop actually owned by these companies... Today this still sort of continues... Chip Ellis's custom shop is its own entity but Chip Ellis hand built all of Eddie Van Halen's EVH's Wolfgang touring guitars. If you order a EVH USA Wolfgang, that will come from the Fender custom shop, Chip Ellis's team won't touch it as they are devoted to the elites. A few years back they did sell a limited run built by Chip's team and it was like $13,000 retail... Almost everything gear related that can be lied about to help someone make money has been... It's a dumpster fire of deceit, smoke and mirrors at every step and the really sad thing is none of this gear is going to make anyone a better player.

@@rmzzz76 No one says it'll make you better. People have extra $$$, so they might try something new. All of this is just Capitalism, a market exists, so it must be filled! Damn, I had no idea about the crime element. I only buy luthier made guitars, I prefer to have a relationship with the person making my guitar, and also like to have custom options. So, haven't paid attention to what happens with the large companies. Where can I read more about the organized crime stuff? I am perplexed!

You do realize that for teh most part,.AI is based on human behavior and interaction right? LoL! Also,..I am sure your more then capable of self representation during your next DUI or wifi beating legal procedure,.LoL

​@@terryshrkHe's a dumb dumb...

@@terryshrk I am certain that you reconise sarcasm when you see it : )

Gibson was just an IP portfolio to KKR when they bought it. They specifically planned on suing all competitors as a means of income. We used to call these sorts of firms _patent trolls_ in the software industry. Now it seems that it has become a (questionably) viable business model in nearly every industry. Why innovate when you can litigate? Especially when your company is literally a bunch of blues lawyers.

Lobbying the US government is very, very expensive. You can't stop China from selling them in every country just by preventing them from legally entering the US. It's a zero sum game for them. Besides, replicas are allowed as long as they're not marketed as the real thing. Many luthiers in the US even build LP replicas which generally exceed the quality of the Gibson, such as Slash's original AFD LP. It would be better to focus on making the best guitars.