The PRX Halo Arm / GymPin / Vendetta update - collaboration over competition

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Ай бұрын

Things referenced in this video:
The Do You Even Lift Bro podcast is on the ‪@GarageGymRadio‬ channel
The original video I posted about all this stuff: • Reaction to PRX Halo a...
The ‪@GarageGymReviews‬ video on the PRx Halo Arms: • The *almost* Perfect J...
Gavin Laird's Instagram: / gavinlairdstrength
‪@crandallfitness‬ Free Motion Swing Arms: www.crandallfitness.com/produ...
GymPin Kaizen Adapters - gym-pin.co.uk/kaizendiygym (coupon code KAIZEN10 saves 10%)
Vendetta Strength and Athletics Adapters: vendettastrengthandathletics....
⏬ Other equipment I use in my gym ⏬
Fringe Sport - www.fringesport.com/#3114099
Savage bumper Plate Set
Floor mounted Power Cage
Silverback Dumbbells
Mammoth Belt Squat and Kickstand
Midas Open Trap Bar
Mag Pins
Magnetic Band Pegs
F and F Steel - fandfsteel.com/collections/pa... (coupon code KAIZEN10 saves 10%)
Kaizen Multi-Link
Kaizen Rack Spacers
5/8” to 1” Pin Adapters
Rack Mounted Swivel Pulley
Rack Pulley Pin
GymPin - gym-pin.co.uk/kaizendiygym (coupon code KAIZEN10 saves 10%)
Kaizen Jammer Arm Adapters
Belt Squat Collar
D-Handle Bar
30” Holey Bar
Fabric D-Handles
Tri-grips long rope tricep handles
Angles 90 grips
Tri-grips tapered cone handles
70MM Grip Balls
AbMat - abmat.com/#a_aid=kaizendiygym (coupon code KAIZEN10 saves you 10%)
Hip Thrust Pad
Chest Up Pad
Preacher Pad
Barbell Bomb
Quarter Rings
Belt Squat Cover
Split Squat Pad
Medicine Balls
Box Squat Pad
U-bells
Plate Spacers
Bells of Steel - www.bellsofsteel.us/#a_aid=Ka...
72” Hydra Power Rack
Mighty Grip plates
Seal Row Pad
Wall Mounted Pulley Tower
Barenaked Power Bar
Arch Nemesis Multi-Grip Bar
Blue Cerakote Utility Bar
Rackable Curl Bar
REP Fitness - www.repfitness.com/#61e712588...
REP Omni 6 post power rack
REP AB4100
Rep Monolift Attachments
GMWD Seal Row Bench: amzn.to/42huUbV
Massenomics Drink Spotter Lite - www.massenomics.com/shop/drin...
Tribus Grips: tribusgrips.com/?ref=PlnVXP_i... (coupon code KAIZEN10 saves you 10%)
Porter Physed Fitness lat pulldown attachment: porterpef.com
Dialed Motion Pulley System: dialedmotion.com/
X-Mark Leg Curl / Leg Extension Machine: amzn.to/3SsSsY8
Wall Control Storage: www.wallcontrol.com?aff=140 Save 10% with coupon code KAIZENDIYGYM
Inspire Fitness Functional Trainer: amzn.to/48Px0Cj
Buffalo Bully Fab Glyder: buffalobullyfab.com/
Marrs Bar: titan-fitness.pxf.io/2rPJvD
Mutant Metals Handles: mutantmetals.com/products/p/8...
Maumi Weight Horns: amzn.to/3HxNnaO
Vendetta Strength and Athletics Adapters: vendettastrengthandathletics....
Titan Wall Mounted Pulley Tower: titan-fitness.pxf.io/dajZd2
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@KaizenDIYGym Ай бұрын

Well, egg on my face for thinking they would try to make things right. Here is the PRx official response video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/adqagrSoscW8oZs.htmlsi=3XeGNk_TT-nH6xo0

@andrsco Ай бұрын

Taking the higher ground is the better look. Have a feeling the community has your back.

@kyles8391 Ай бұрын

Their response looked like Mr. Wonderful's attorneys wrote their scripts

@taylorpark3544 Ай бұрын

It's so disappointing that they decided to not reach out and work things out but instead double down and make you guys seem like you're seeing clicks and attention. It was rude, cold and just gross how they handled this. I've left my feedback and am encouraging others in our communities to do the same. So far all the comments are against PRx (I'm sure some will support them) and hopefully the vast majority will overwhelm them into course correcting or they will suffer the consequences and all further innovations will be scrutinized by the home gym community.

@Greg-ol6sc Ай бұрын

I never liked them anyway

@justmaybe5643 22 күн бұрын

It's ok guys, they're "...working on something to resolve this issue further! Thank you" 😂 Tone-deaf clowns over at PRx

@Eccles_basement_gym Ай бұрын

The community does great work to come together 👏

@KaizenDIYGym Ай бұрын

It is pretty amazing to see what can happen when we work together.

@BasementBrandon Ай бұрын

Awesome. Hoping this works out!

@KaizenDIYGym Ай бұрын

Thanks B!

@BasementBrandon Ай бұрын

Just saw their response. I take it all back. F’em!!!

@Mrwatson185 Ай бұрын

@@BasementBrandonthanks for using your platform to publicly criticize their horrendous response. It’s actions like this that solidify your incredible reputation in this space. Even if garages > basements 😜

@BasementBrandon Ай бұрын

@@Mrwatson185 The basement life chose me.

@tas1424 Ай бұрын

Respect this. I was among one of the people promoting Gavin's work. I have his GLS jammer arms from Primal Strength in the UK and I use them almost every session. Love them!

@fwiffo42 Ай бұрын

I appreciate the update! I haven’t been able to follow along as closely as I would have liked, but I did see the clip of PRx’s response on Instagram and oh boy. Needless to say, I’m looking forward to your next update and hope that PRx changes their tune.

@nicelikemike Ай бұрын

Great update, Kyle! I'm believing that PRx will do the right thing and and restore their reputation within the HomeGym community.

@KaizenDIYGym Ай бұрын

I know it’s most of the stuff we covered in our podcast episode but I’m sure we’ll have plenty to talk about after the announcement.

@user-yv4kn2ws8r Ай бұрын

There not

@ashleytheamazing Ай бұрын

This is a great update and great news. There is more than enough success and abundance out there for everyone. I’m so happy PRx is open to working together. Everyone will win! Thanks for the update, Kyle.

@KaizenDIYGym Ай бұрын

They haven’t announced anything yet. I don’t know what the plan is. They haven’t even indicated that they want to work together but I am optimistic that they’ll do the right thing.

@sobutterysmooth Ай бұрын

I’m glad you guys were able to figure something out. You’re a great innovator, and you do deserve to get credit for your genius.

@KaizenDIYGym Ай бұрын

To be clear, they haven’t reached out to me. They just asked that we hold off on posting the podcast episode while they prepare their response. I am cautiously optimistic that they’ll do the right thing. We shall see.

@chrisdonnell2575 Ай бұрын

There was a great HBO show called Deadwood where Al Swearengen and Mr Wu would talk using one cussword, amazing they could understand each other with this word. The PRX Owners are that word. We support you and other small businesses 100%.

@bigk2080 Ай бұрын

I'm happy for you guys 🏋

@tommyp1118 Ай бұрын

Good luck ❤

@keithhoneycutt2324 Ай бұрын

Memes are essential in life 🤝

@KaizenDIYGym Ай бұрын

Bro you are the meme king!

@ashleytheamazing Ай бұрын

You made some hilarious ones 😂

@barbellrescue Ай бұрын

They make the world go round

@Spencebot42 Ай бұрын

Respect to you for the follow-up; I was not familiar with your content before seeing your first video on this, but you've earned a subscriber for what that's worth. I certainly like the collaboration approach more and I understand being constrained by money, so I can't blame you with not being able to complete the patent process. It's very unfortunate that their response was just generic corporate speak, even if it is completely true, it comes off as very robotic and certainly not what the community wanted to see.

@KaizenDIYGym Ай бұрын

I appreciate the support and the sub! I was surprised by their response and pretty disappointed. No worries though, I’ve still got plenty of ideas to explore and lots of companies willing to collaborate.

@vintageweightspgh Ай бұрын

Well, that PrX response was not what I’d hoped for. I’m so sorry, man. I hope the support for your efforts continues and people find somewhere else to spend 1.5k than PrX.

@NoFate247 Ай бұрын

patents cost a lot more and take a lot more time than people realize

@KaizenDIYGym Ай бұрын

Yes, exactly!

@doctabustacruz Ай бұрын

Love the idea at the end! I too have so many ideas that i would like to make, but i do not necessarily have the resources to make these or knowledge regarding the whole process including patents.

@KaizenDIYGym Ай бұрын

Let’s keep that conversation going. I don’t know how to organize a brain trust but I do have faith in the individual talents of each community member, I think we can work together and figure it out.

@carps_gym Ай бұрын

Big Keith the meme lord

@whytehunter5050 Ай бұрын

Great!

@KaizenDIYGym Ай бұрын

Thanks!

@porkrindrob Ай бұрын

Integrity is doing what is right when no one is looking. In this case many people were looking and they STILL got it wrong. You only get one shot to make things right I suspect the community will ensure their bottom line takes a hit. And to add this, I’m sure there are lawyers in the community that would work with you at a discount going forward with your ideas so hopefully this situation doesn’t happen again. That being said I’m not a lawyer

@authentichealthcoach4142 Ай бұрын

I hope you and Vendetta are taken care of. I will always support the original creators. I stick with Sorinex for all my Base Camp needs. I have the vendetta trolley attachments to go with them.

@KaizenDIYGym Ай бұрын

Nice! We appreciate the support!

@MeepMeep88 25 күн бұрын

2:22 LOLL brutal, man.. It's the same mindset my parents raised me with whenever we see people with tats hahah I guess some never grew out of their parents mindset haha. But you do have a crap ton of tats, holy moly lol

@Mrwatson185 Ай бұрын

EDIT: They managed to make it worse. Okay, PRx is officially forever on my No-Go list. What a missed easy win for everyone. Kaizen, the community has your back. Please don’t let this discourage you from pushing forward on your innovation. Please let us know how we can help going forward.

@KaizenDIYGym Ай бұрын

@Mrwatson185 Ай бұрын

@@KaizenDIYGym ooh okay, I’ll wait for further clarity here before moving forward. My misunderstanding. Thanks for the update!

@hemeheru6219 27 күн бұрын

Bro KAIZEN and VENDETTA are the companies that inspired me to use the lever arms and I'm sticking with you guys. I believe the guys that put in the sweat will know how to adjust to problems in the home gym space as you been doing all along.. PRX CLEARLY STOLE THE CONCEPT..

@barbellrescue Ай бұрын

I skimmed through their patent and they sited/referenced you and a host of other people and companies. Everyone from you and Gavin to Vendetta and Gym Pin to Rogue and Sorinex. It’s been awhile since my last patent but, if I remember correctly, you reference prior art to aid the patent examiner in their research of your product(s) and it’s respective claims. The examiner then determines if your new invention falls into the useful, novel and non-obvious category. One interesting statement I found was this, “However, a product that enhances or expands upon a previous invention may be patentable. However, even if the differences would make them very unique to one another, the patent application may be rejected if the differences would be obvious.” I’m guessing this could have been the case with this situation. I look forward to hearing what PRX has to say.

@GavinLairdStrength Ай бұрын

The examiner didn’t actually cite any of the non patent references that were supplied. Chances are, given the workload the USPTO is under, the non patent citations weren’t even read.

@kyles8391 Ай бұрын

Seems like an opportunity to redesign jammer arms that are more useful across the board. Full motion, a lot of vertical and horizontal locking points, an option to route cables from a pulley set-up through them, and being able to quickly attach/detach the trolley. I'd be fine with keeping the trolleys on fulltime but at least easily remove the arms so they're not in the way when not in use (although the Legend Fitness design of swiveling the arms 180 degrees is pretty cool).

@aclsass Ай бұрын

Are those green blue pink plates in the background a product for sale or are those personally customized?

@KaizenDIYGym Ай бұрын

Custom - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Zq10bJOiqsXJo6M.html

@user-yv4kn2ws8r Ай бұрын

Well i wont be getting and prx was thinking about it

@blackassassinknight Ай бұрын

Does the rogue 1.0 adaptors work for titan x3 arms? Want to pick up a set asap before any patient bs from prx comes

@KaizenDIYGym Ай бұрын

GymPin makes adapters for Titan x3 specifically. gym-pin.co.uk/kaizendiygym (coupon code KAIZEN10 saves 10%)

@blackassassinknight Ай бұрын

@@KaizenDIYGym don’t see it on the site, only see the 4 (rogue 2.0, rogue 1.0, rep iso, and Titan t3

@scooobyj8714 Ай бұрын

Sounds like PRX got caught being shady and now they are trying to back track. I hope they make it right. Only time will tell.

@KaizenDIYGym Ай бұрын

I am hoping they will do the right thing. We’ll see what happens

@RavenBlackCry Ай бұрын

I would stay away from such companies.....

@MrFluidRock 27 күн бұрын

Too many people shamefully get paid at the expense of others. You as an innovator deserve every penny for your design. EVERY penny. I wont buy PRX, until you are the one selling me it. Long live the innovators. #creators

@drew6167 Ай бұрын

I wholly disagree on this for small businesses in the industry with giants who can squash smaller competition. Patents over/before partnerships. Even with limited knowledge regarding patent defense/litigation

@drew6167 Ай бұрын

lol I told you. Look at PRx lawyers response.

@carps_gym Ай бұрын

Looks like like a triple down they just came out with a video saying nothing basically I guess there is no collaboration

@KaizenDIYGym Ай бұрын

I was really trying to give them the benefit of the doubt.

@skim1983 Ай бұрын

Yes, people acting like patents are easy don’t know what they’re talking about. It can take months and sometimes years, and the little guys will more often lose out to bigger more established companies who have the resources and time to dedicate toward the process. Early release or video demos, just make it easier for the bigger companies to rip you off. I feel for you.

@jugjivan Ай бұрын

Besides the commercial aspect I don't see how this is different than the havak triad situation. I don't support commercial rip offs, but this specific negative reaction just didn't sit right with me.

@Clownlife432 Ай бұрын

You did nothing wrong. People shouldn’t steal from other people.

@KaizenDIYGym Ай бұрын

Thanks man, I agree!

@shiwakuseven5859 Ай бұрын

PRx should reach out with a settlement offer. It isn't a good thing for PRx or its reputation to let this patent controversy fester.

@KaizenDIYGym Ай бұрын

Judging by their response video, working things out doesn’t seem like it’s in their wheelhouse.

@MeepMeep88 25 күн бұрын

I saw your lever arms years ago and I could have sworn you already got the patent O.o. Unfortunate =/

@HickLif3 28 күн бұрын

It sucks but for most people and items a patent is useless Because of everything you said. After paying the fees just to GET the patent you may NEVER sell enough to make that money back. Then add in the "infringements" you then have to defend. I am also of the mind that patents kill innovation and make monopolies on items that may or may not suck or could be made with better materials. Also, that belt squat attachment you made for a barbell has been done by elitefts for a while, the core blaster, it doesn't have as many holes but same concept to move you back from the plates.

@amunra69 Ай бұрын

I think it’s interesting that you keep on saying that the patent process was just too expensive but are also apparently asserting that your designs were so valuable that PRX should have given you credit/collaboration/royalties. Which is it? If your IP was valuable you could have fund raised or financed the costs needed to secure the patents. And if your IP wasn’t valuable enough to justify all that then (adopting your view that PRX took the idea) what did they really rob you of in the end? I genuinely don’t understand what you think you are entitled to?

@KaizenDIYGym Ай бұрын

Yeah, valid question. In the first video I state explicitly what I think should happen: PRX should give a royalty to Vendetta, who is currently patent pending. That’s it. I’m not looking for anything for myself other than the recognition that they were inspired by my design.

@blackybear Ай бұрын

your products an add on. its good I get it. But theirs is a complete product. I know its close to your product and vendetta's but Chopping their hands off for it means the consumers end up with a worse product and the consumers suffer. So for you I understand the upset. I guess what I'm saying is I'm not behind the whole patent system. It could be better so that inventors can collaborate. and the product evolved with competition and it honestly means everyone gets a better product. I mean one solution is that patents last a maximum of 3 years or something?