Vegeta's sacrifice also means alot more than Goku's, Goku knows when he dies that he can keep his body and keep training to become stronger, vegeta knows its the end and hell awaits him.

Just a little add-on for the video: Vegeta's relationship with Trunks is an excellent showing of Vegeta's psyche. At first Vegeta refused to accept Trunks as his son at all, not dismissing him only when he had some info to share. After SPOILERS FOR ANYONE CURRENTLY WATCHING THROUGH THE CELL SAGA FOR THE FIRST TIME Cell killed Trunks, something sparked in him. I think that Vegeta didn't want a family because he didn't want to lose everything again. He only truly recognized what he lost after it was gone. After an experience like that, it influenced him to cherish his family at all costs, willing to even put aside his pride to protect them.

vegeta is such a realistic character i feel his pain, he always strives to be better and helped me conquer depression

Character development. That is what really makes Vegeta so fascinating especially because no other character in the show is as complex as he is. Everyone else's motivations stay roughly the same throughout all the sagas. Vegeta, on the other hand, keeps the audience guessing and he keeps the audience impressed by his surprising power and he surprising failures. He is a true underdog who is constantly seeking improvement and that can be inspiring to anyone but his character arcs last entire sagas. Vegeta's inner struggles serve as an over-arching subplot to the main plots and that's very impressive from a screenwriting perspective. Without Vegeta, Dragon Ball would be significantly less interesting and maybe even boring but Vegeta adds the depth and complexity to entertain audiences of all backgrounds.

I think Goku was also a mirror to Vegeta, every-time Vegeta sees Goku he cannot see anything except that Goku has fulfilled his destiny and has achieved in every way Vegeta has failed. Goku is the representation of who Vegeta should be but isn't. thats why when he dies Vegeta is at first angry that he wont get to prove himself but so quickly recovers because without that mirror Vegeta can move on with his life he even has a decent attitude toward Gohan. but as soon as Goku returns everything falls apart. Thats why only after Vegeta truly accepts that he will never be Goku and that Goku is stronger than him is he able to be at peace and become a good person.

“EVERY BREATH YOU TAKE IS AN ASSAULT TO MY HONOR” thats a straight bar

What I think is fascinating is that Vegeta never lost to Goku but to him he did. It's like when Tien beat Master Roshi in Dragon Ball. Tien didn't feel like he actually won cause Roahi just walked off. Even though Roshi tried to comfort Tien by saying he would have won either way.

Something else to add is when vegeta’s majin at the tournament supreme Kai says “the universe matters more than this meaningless squabble” which vegeta replies “MEANINGLESS HUH!? WHAT DO YOU KNOW OF MEANINGLESS!? Spend most of your life ruled by another, watch your race dwindle to a handful, THEN tell me what matters more than your own strength?” It shows us at the core of it all, him and his constant desire for strength is him wanting to never be in that position again where he lives under someone else’s control or watches his family and loved ones be taken away from him. To Vegeta, him being the strongest means he is able to protect himself and the people he cares about.

The directing of the scene of vegeta talking with piccolo was top tier. Seeing vegetas eye twitch when piccolo tells him he won't receive the same treatment as goku in the afterlife was perfect. Just a quick eye twitch of vegeta realizing goku bests him even in dying. And the subtle "oh well, so be it" response. He accepts the consequences of his life choices. Vegeta is the perfect character arch

Vegeta is undoubtedly the best developed character in dragon ball no question, maybe even all anime. He's such a relatable character. Father never showed any love, was ruled by an evil and racist emporor, A guy that works so hard 24/7 and has faced so much adversity his entire life, a guy that is bested at every turn and to be so hard on himself only to see him self destruct at one point but finally overcome his inner demons but at the cost of sacraficing his life...that dramatically changed him. When i wake every day, i deadass listen to vegeta quotes all day in the gym. Lowkey, some think it's corny, but that shit honestly gives inspiration to go hard with everything

The fight with Goku during this saga is definitely a cry for help. All the trauma and the conflicting feelings Vegeta had built up to that point had exploded in a confrontation with the only other surviving member of his race that he knew at the time.

Vegeta's development in Z is the best character development in any anime i've seen period the amount of years it took for Vegeta to transition from villain to hero was over 10 years and it was gradual in the saiyan saga he was a villain, Freeza saga he was a villain/anti-hero, in android saga he was an anti-hero and finally in the buu arc he was anti-hero briefly (the whole majin Vegeta transformation) finally becoming a hero and the first step he did was self-destruct in order to fix his mistakes and to protect his family and friends to eventually getting a chance to come back and fight buu and prove he is now a hero everything he does after that is selfless he uses the potara knowing it's the ultimate pride test in order to avenge his family, he protects and aids Goku in defeating buu like a true hero rather than caring about himself and finally in the revival scene getting revived for now his journey is complete he has redeemed himself and has become a hero it's such a powerful moment, and the best scene in the whole series imo is Vegeta's monologue and aknowledging Goku is better than him which is Vegeta's ultimate obstacle which he surpasses and that is why Vegeta is soo incredibley iconic and loved cause he's flawed, was arragont, took things ruthlessly. Majin Vegeta was caused due to finding out it's useless to surpass him and just wanted a power boost in order to fullfill his desires the ultimate prideful thing he could do as it causes Buu to revive and causes harm to Supreme Kai and Gohan which then he does the complete opposite at the end doing the most selfless act in admitting that Goku is better and he's done chasing, the Buu arc while flawed imo is Vegeta's conclusion arc realising his journey accepting who he is and becomes proud of he is and what he has. Great video anyways your quite underrated hopefully you'll blow up in the near future ill be here for the next review if you make another one

One of the best fictional characters EVER !

Yeah, Fat Buu tap danced on his ashes after his self sacrifice... as much as I love Vegeta, the disrespect towards him by Akira is mind blowing

That's something both Vegeta & Sasuke share. They have a much darker and painful past than the main characters and so their extreme trauma shapes their world view and personalities. They have the will & resolve to do the dirty work to get the job done even if it means delving too far into darkness (again due to their serverly traumatic upbringing), they have a point to prove that ends up bigger than just themselves. Their character development is more than any other character in the show (which is why they are sometimes hated by those who can't understand human psychology and how real life humans behave and loved by those with enough of a brain to empathise with how human psychology works), are much better or elite fighters than their rivals but don't have the protagonist plot to make them as powerful as their rivals regardless of what they do (because they aren't the main character) and in the end both go against their typecast role despite it all & do what's right in the end at the end of their character development.

I am sad that Majin Vegeta is a one hit wonder, I love how aggressive he is in the games. I like him

Majin Vegetas death, was the death of who he was and when he was revived it was the birth of who he wanted to be

Was understandable what Vegeta did because Vegeta truly did want to be the hero. Knocking out Kakarot wasn't out of hate but to try and be the main hero for once. Very conflicted individual but never truly lost full control the entire time. Was alot different since his Frieza days even as a Majin. We still respect him as a charity because he never really was truly evil even under Frieza. If events were different and planet Vegeta was still around he really would have just wanted to be the hero of his home planet.

I was twelve years old watching this show on Toonami when that episode first aired. Vegeta knocking out Trunks and Goten like "OMG he's evil again! No wait...he's telling Piccolo to take them away. What's happening?" Then we get to that moment in all of anime shonen history! The Final Atonement the episode title. I didn't know what that even meant at the time but as he surrounds himself with his own energy, dust flying everywhere, the wind blowing rapidly, I just knew he was going to do the unthinkable. Then he explodes! Everything being engulfed in a blinding flash of light. Vegeta was gone but he went out as he started, a proud warrior. The Prince of Saiyans. I did not know what compelled me to suddenly go from disliking Vegeta to suddenly loving him after that moment. I knew it had something to do with him dying to save the world but there was more to it and I couldn't figure it out. As I got older, I realized why that was. He's gone through hell, brought everyone he encounted through hell, cast aside his evil ways and accept his new life with his family only to almost throwing it all away again only to come back from the hell he was about to go through again. Just amazing writing!

Wow man, this is so deep… Bc I recently had to accept the hard truth that I too am a “Vegeta” in life… Broken by circumstances that are beyond my control. I fight bc that what I’ve had to do just to make it this far. & even go as far as to use the at times unbarrable pain of just continuing on another day as fuel in itself…. Wow man…

This was a phenomenal video. Everybody always forget is this. Vegeta learned to become a better man from Goku. In the cell arc, Remember Vegeta’s awe inspiring praise of Goku’s sacrifice? Very touching. Just subscribed notifications bell on!!!

Best overall writer character in the show. The most relatable character in Z and what they do with him even in Super. But I also think in the Majin Vegeta arc he should've been the one to kill Majin Buu it would've been an awesome way to finish his character arc. Imagine a villian that was hell bent on killing all the Z fighters and came to blow up the earth, eventually years later would settle down on that same planet, start a family, and sacrifice himself for the greater good of everyone. That is an incredible story

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Great psychological breakdown of Vegeta, especially during the moment when he became Majin Vegeta.

This is an actually well thought video. I totally love all your points on the video. This is definitely Vegeta character from start to finish.

He's every 40 year old on gear. And I love it

Thank you for the vid, and words of encouragement🙏🏽💯

Thank you for that last part... That felt nice to hear and feel.

Such a great description and story telling. Vegeta would be proud 😌

Cozy video my friend! Can't wait to tune in for more

This video was amazing and perfectly done. Thank you for this. Subbed.

I’m loving ur DBZ analysis vids! Don’t stop making them!

You may have invaded my mind and my body, but there's one thing a Saiyan all ways keeps his PRIDEEEEEE!

A researched and nicely put together video essay about our favourite Prince of all Saiyans. Your editing could use some work, but it was sufficient, and you explained well the points you were bringing to the table, as well as your narration really made me stay and listen to it all. I liked the video a lot and I hope you do more like this one. Keep it up! PS: You earned yourself a new sub!

Thanks for this video bro well done

Vegeta is one of my all time favorite characters of all time, not just in anime. I do a decent Vegeta impression that I do on my channel on KZfaq. Even my kids like Vegeta. He's very relatable. Sure, Goku is the star, but Vegeta makes me feel like after you take an L, doesn't mean its the end of the road. We get back up, and keep pushing forward.

beautiful video bro, the way you explained everything was so good.

Glad this video got so much recognition and that thumbnail was fire 🔥🔥🔥 You should make a video about Frieza being the most adaptable anime villain of all time! Somehow Frieza just keeps finding ways to stay in the mix. From a reconstructed robot 😅 to golden frieza

At the beginning of the video made the joke in my head "Bulma cheeks" changed him 😅 no video needed. That of course wasn't the whole story. Thank you for making it. I kept agreeing with you in my head when you touched on points and toward the end I was like damn, that was good. He is a complex character and any people that have struggled with broken pride can relate to his story. You wrote a very compelling script for this and I hope your message resonates with whoever needs to hear it, definitely worth the view.😎

This is why we love Vegeta it's not that he wins all the time but he never gives up. Goku brings out both the best and worst in him. For a character the writer used for plot exposition he surely got the most fleshing out of all the side characters in dragon ball z.

Great video man 💯🔥 keep them coming. Subbed.

Heiei as a character is very similar in Hakusho and why he is respected. Both had a rough upbringing.

This is a great video you made and I really like your breakdown on Vegeta, in fact is my favorite over others I have watched. Most would rather be smartassed about the character instead of having an actual serious analysis. Thanks for this. I'm working on doing something of my own for a story I'm working, don't know if it will ever see the light of day, but I've been working on it whenever I have the time to do it. Glad I landed here when I did. 13:08 Man that hits so close to home it ain't even funny. No matter how hard you work the results remain the same no matter how you try to change it. Even when you help others, you end up forgotten. You have no choice but to look after yourself, not saying never helping others, but you gotta take care of yourself. " In life as a man, nobody cares bout you. You're invisible. And many people overlook or look down on you."

Thanks for saying this. I always felt there was smth wrong with me for loving vegeta's character

He is one of my favorite fictional characters. He is an inspiration🗿

Excellent video man

Dope content bro, I subscribed salute ✊🏼

Amazing video bro.

So, Majin Vegeta was the culmination of all of his past traumas, the bad with Frieza and the rivalry and damage to his pride done by Goku, Gohan, Future Trunks, Cell. And while this evil and rage inside him is surfaced, it’s more than just his rivalry with Goku… he’s fighting all of his past traumas. While he’s majin, he deals with his surfaced traumas while fighting Buu, and his atonement was the destruction of all of that evil (more or less)… he’s not just fighting Buu, which was ultimately born with his energy expended with his fight with Goku… he’s at war with himself. And while he might have lost the fight with Buu, he won the fight within himself.

Vageta probably coulsnt keep up with Goku because 1 the negativity in his mind discouraged growth, while Goku's positivity makes strength flourish, 2 Goku wasn't obsessed with catching up, and so was much easier on himself, giving himself the rest and food he needed, while vageta wouldn't do so. You can train harder and more than someone else, but because they rest and eat better and have a more nourishing mind they outgrow you.

You know what I never realized until just now? That the only reason Vegeta agreed to postpone his fight with Goku is because Vegeta was planning to sacrifice himself FROM THE BEGINNING so that he could fight Goku IN THE AFTERLIFE .. 🤯😭

The imagination of 1980s and early 1990s anime shows are impressive and even displays untapped technology advances that may become actual reality someday.

Really well made

I can relate to Vegeta as it's hard to see someone accomplish so easily what you have been working so hard to achieve. I'm not talking about jealousy. It's hard to realize not everyone is equal that sometimes some people are dealt a better hand and never have to sweat, sacrifice and struggle like others.

Vegeta is by far the most complex yet relatable character in DB. I often say I’ve outgrown this series but well made videos like these make me feel like taking that nostalgic trip again…. I’m not gonna do it but yeh.

One thing you’ll see is Super and even GT, Vegeta is noticeably softer and mellow with the people around him.

Vegeta is my favorite character

I can't even begin to explain why Vegeta is one of if not my number one all-time favorite character in all of media.

I think what's cool about this whole concept and I don't think a lot of people even realized it but through him embracing Majin then dying and coming back it allowed him to become who he is today! because it basically killed off whatever evil was left inside or at least that's how I like to see it lol

As a 12 year old I was drawn to Vegeta's character above all despite his evil deeds. He resonated with me on a deep level. All his character traits, I had deep down. And I always wanted him to come out on top.

Majin vegeta is like somebody who let intrusive though in 😂😂😂 we envy him lol

I kinda relate to Vegeta, same height, we both work hard to get stronger, we both want to be the best...a true inspiration

He just wanted to be the best .. even if it wasn't for evil. Even undergoing Majin he still had care for family etc. He just used Babidi for a means. Babidi himself was very shocked he could disobey so greatly.

dawg poppin off

Best character arc that speaks to me as a person. I agree with this vid completely. Please psyche analyze more with a psychologist if you can. Lets dig deeper

He did it for power. He was getting that Fight REGARDLESS. Vegeta knew he couldn't be controlled either.

As kids we loved goku as adults we understood the prince of all saiyans

The only problem I have in vegeta in super is that he says that he wants to surpass Goku again which is BS because in the boo saga, he just let it go. In gt vegeta wasn’t obsessed with goku anymore he wanted ssj4 but he didn’t want to surpass Goku. He just wanted to be equal power with Goku

Heh, it's kinda funny. Even tho Vegeta is a big reason for Buus resurection, he tries to make up for it by trying to take Buu with him. He takes a moral W by taking the L.

Do more of these!! 😮😮

20:50 : "I wanted this to be real and autentic" With a Vegeta SS3 on the background

When I watched my first episode back in 1998 after school I knew vegeta would be my favorite he has the most growth plus he's just a bad man he's my goat 🐐

I really fave Majin Vageta over any other forms of vagetas

Why does it feel like I’ve just had a conversation with my therapist

Great.

"I WANNA! I WANNA I WANNA I WANNA!" Ngl, I'm always rooting for Veggie boi to finally surpass Goku. He's come so far and grown so much, I really do hope that his Ultra Ego grows more and more and finally puts him at the top (Just beneath Broly, cause "what's a King to a God?")

Mentally breaking down him as a character while it's true he had a degree of Ego due to being raised in Saiyan society he had more of a caring heart even as a boy then he's given credit for. A uncaring bastard doesn't cry, Vegeta has far more caring emotions than a majority of Saiyans. That's why on Namek Goku finally realized, there was more to him and went out of his way to not upset him. And Vegeta was the only one he'd allow call him Kakarot and felt they eventually developed a form of a brother dynamic. But he was traumatized on multiple levels at young age so it took years for him to get past the demons that haunted his childhood. So alo of the times ppl think Vegeta was being aarogant it's actually the opposite. I think it's deeper than that. He struggles inwardly dealing with these emotions.

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People love vegeta because his character is just human nature nobody is perfect and deep down even though we might not realize it we know that a good guy hero like goku is unrealistic for humans

Goku didn't even beat Vegeta in their first fight. It took every that was left after Nappa. Goku was able to compete with him, but has never had an onscreen win against him.

This pretty much sums up why I love Vegeta so much. Seeing his character gave me more clarity on what I truly wanted and the way I want to do it.

It's so hard to say vegeta's iconic quote without actually yelling "HIS PRIDE!"

Vegeta is so damn emotional thats why i relate to Goku just not taking things to seriously but still yet overall progressive

I think its fitting and very on brand, that vegetas only chance of ever surpassing goku, is getting to the point emotionally that he didn't care anymore or hold any resentments toward goku. As I've understood it over the years, unlocking super saiyan levels (goten and trunks excluded) always comes with an emotional breakthrough. For goku and gohan it was watching their friends die, and feeling hatred and murderous intent consume them. For Vegeta he unlocks his first level at his moment of feeling worthless, and giving up for the first time in his life. Vegeta really is the most complex character in the dragon ball series.

YuYu Hakusho is early 1990s. And now basically an antique. Plenty of good early year anime and better than most newer shows.

Vegeta just got humbled i love his character through....i can relate to him life will humble you when you think your top

I think what pissed vegeta off about gohan was how much potential he had that he just wasn't using (until super) I don't think the transformation to super sayian 2 is the issue for him. Although it definitely could have contributed.

Not to add another comment but I think the rivalry between them is necessary because it is basically the driving force/reason they push themselves beyond their limits imo it's a healthy rivalry and it was necessary to keep them growing as characters ya know they started out as bitter enemies and now are so close that I'm sure either one would die for the other and have! Not to be corny or nothing but this speaks to how good a healthy rivalry can be for someone

One of my favorite "Easter eggs" if you will in the entire series is when Goku buried Vegeta on namek he says "I think I finally understand you" and went on to say that his evil ways weren't all his fault, and that he was worthy of his respect, then when Vegeta is about to blow himself up with buu, he smirks that amazing look and he says "I think I finally understand you" not speaking to buu but to Goku, and saying he understands why Goku would throw his life away for his loved ones and family, he understands why Goku is how he is

Dragon Ball Z is over 32 years old and even older than I am by some degree at 32 years old. Let that sink in for awhile.

When vegeta couldn't sense gohan after buu took him out, he realized how bad he screwed up, causing him to apologize.

Kidnapped as a kid forced to work for an emperor who murdered your father, friends, entire race and planet. Dude has every right to be traumatized at a deep level. Vegeta’s backstory should have been Goku’s character. Far better.

I am a vegita fan because of his complexity

"Let's not stand on ceremony..." *continues to stand on ceremony*

If you really break it down, Goku never actually defeated Vegeta. In the Saiyan Saga Vegeta was flattened by Gohan. That’s how he lost. Then Majin Vegeta and Goku fought to a draw until Goku dropped his guard to get the senzu beans. And even if Super Hero Vegeta just wins. His ego was just bruised because he didn’t beat Goku either.

Best father that why he loved

YOU GOTTA USE VEGETA'S TECHNIQUE

quick question, why does he never change it to King of the saiyans, his dad died so long ago

The prince of all anime characters in the universe

Don't forget the "namek" surpassed him in the cell saga also