The psychology of Henry VIII

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15 жыл бұрын

How would you describe Henry VIII? Insecure, tyrannical, generous, egotistical, cultured, sporting. These are some of the descriptions of the King's psyche that Tudor historians discuss.

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@nista4ever 7 жыл бұрын

Henry killed almost everyone he loved.

@zipzap570 4 жыл бұрын

Except Catherine of Aragon because she was the real Spanish Princess and her parents were very mighty. Relation with Spain would have tarnished if he beheaded her

@montrelouisebohon-harris7023 4 жыл бұрын

Except for Charles Brandon and that's because Charles new Henry better than anyone. They grew up together and even Charles pissed him off when Henry was younger and Henry forgave him after he cooled off. Charles Brandon was King Henry's confidante and best friend and somehow Charles was able to adapt to Henry's Magnus after he suffered several injuries and went through a divorce. Charles did not agree with everything that Henry wanted but he did as he was ordered regardless of his conscience because he was loyal to his king without wanting anything in return. other people on Henry's Council wanted favors or promotions from the King and they would lie and spread rumors Charles Brandon didn't say anything unless he thought that it was something that was going to humiliate the king or hurt him. King Henry would not have killed Sir Thomas More had Sir Thomas lied and said he would take the oath of the Church of England even if he was Catholic in his heart. King Henry was basically Catholic it's just that he's separated from the Catholic church because they were so corrupt!! The Cardinals had Mistresses and children upon millions in wealth, but they wouldn't Grant him an annulment because he honestly believed he had committed wrong against God according to the verses in Leviticus because he married his brother's wife. Henry salgadas the overall Authority and not the Pope.

@TheMcKenzieHaus 3 жыл бұрын

The guy truly was a psychopath

@TheAjdam 2 жыл бұрын

I doubt he loved anyone to be fair.

@patukott 11 жыл бұрын

Makes one wonder, what these historians would make of the theory that, in addition to the injured leg, Henry got a brain damage that influenced his behaviour in its turn.

@AmethystEyes 3 жыл бұрын

Also the theory that he was Kell Antigen positive.

@gmaureen 14 жыл бұрын

Philipa Gregory sorta hit the nail on the head... selfish, self-centered, omnipotent and a product of his time.

@lauracleghorn6474 6 жыл бұрын

gmaureen Philipa Gregory is tremendous authur. Look up her novels and read.Very historically correct in her royalty novels...

@AmethystEyes 3 жыл бұрын

@@lauracleghorn6474 that’s a joke right?

@Midvanwham 9 жыл бұрын

To sum it all up, he was a big time narcissistic sociopath who had to have everything his way....

@wandaboria2591 5 жыл бұрын

lisa miller you hide it right on...

@rsoubiea 3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like Trump, lol

@lovemykiss9 3 жыл бұрын

I think you’re putting him kindly there...

@miramardream 3 жыл бұрын

A grown-up toddler.

@ankina86 3 жыл бұрын

Yep.

@mulekickhandmadeguitars8465 3 жыл бұрын

If you wish to call it "an achievement", Henry VIII became the only English King that the majority of people around the world can actually say they can name. Which puts him in the same category as all the other murderous tyrants in history.

@Lornicopia 13 жыл бұрын

I have also considered Henry's relationship with his son FitzRoy to be a Catalyst in his almost panicked behavior towards producing a male heir.He seemed to be grooming him to be the spare in the event that he produced no legitimate male offspring.Making him the second most powerful man in England and nurturing a much closer relationship with him than any of the other children.Before his death henry was attempting to position him to be heir apparent.

@annwilliams6438 4 жыл бұрын

Lornicopia oFitzroy died years before Henry did....

@carlv1379 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah. I wonder why Fitz wasn't just placed into the succession while Henry kept trying for another?

@ShallowApple22 2 жыл бұрын

most definitely people look at Anne as the turning point but honestly the issues began when Fitzroy was born it reinforced that the issue was not him and if it wasn't him then his marriage was not seen as valid. even the way Bessie was pratically exiled I see as tactic and another insight into Henry's attitude towards getting rid of those no longer useful to him by taking her out of the picture the child was his and his alone almost believing he could faine and fake Fitzroy legitimacy as HIS child who may 1 day be king

@13gladius28 7 жыл бұрын

That Thomas Cromwell was a historically important figure is beyond doubt; that he should serve as the sympathetic hero of a novel is more surprising. There was nothing remotely glamorous or romantic in his person. Even the painter Hans Holbein could not pretend that he was handsome. In Holbein’s great portraits Thomas More fairly glows with a deep thoughtfulness; Erasmus focuses his quicksilver wit and ironic intelligence on the quill pen poised above the sheet of paper; but jowly Cromwell, his mouth set in a hard scowl, clutches a piece of paper like a dagger and looks out at the world through wary, piggish eyes.

@dwightschrute900 2 жыл бұрын

Nah, he isn’t

@Theturtleowl 11 жыл бұрын

When I saw the title I just went: Not too well

@TheMcKenzieHaus 3 жыл бұрын

I mean you tell a king that he is an absolute, divine being - you get a violent man.

@happybkwrm 14 жыл бұрын

@hop1pop I think it was more likely that she didn't want: A) a man taking over her reign, and B) risking her life with childbirth. She lost two stepmothers that way. She lost another stepmother to the ax. She watched her sister degrade herself with unrequited adoration for a husband who despised her. She saw Mary Stuart lose her throne because she married the wrong man for "love".

@VanlifewithAlan 13 жыл бұрын

@71TattyTeddy I don't think he can have been very popular after around 1535 - the Pilgrimage of Grace was the largest popular uprising against an English monarch until the Civil War.

@carlv1379 4 жыл бұрын

4:45 The staring scholar Dolman; following up the Crimper, says Henry failed in his career of matrimony. How fitting.

@wednesdayschild3627 2 жыл бұрын

Henry was a narcissist. Narcissistic personality disorder ran in the family. His dad had it too.

@MSEDzirasa2015 11 жыл бұрын

The Plantagenets had a lawful claim to the throne...Henry beheaded the last of them...!!! All his characteristics are resonate to those of a first rate NARCISSIST.!!!

@idontgiveafaboutyou 6 жыл бұрын

*The Tudors* Learn your history

@wednesdayschild3627 2 жыл бұрын

I suspect Henry Tudor the father had the two princes in the tower murdered. He got one of the underlings to do it.

@elss8717 2 жыл бұрын

@@wednesdayschild3627 Agreed. He certainly benefitted greatly from their disappearance.

@wednesdayschild3627 2 жыл бұрын

@@elss8717 for sure, but was it someone around him that did it? Did the Tudors do it? Why didn't Henry Tudor produce the bodies? It was either because he didn't have them or something else? Who are the two children that were found? The queen will not allow the to be examined.

@elss8717 2 жыл бұрын

@@wednesdayschild3627 Any contender to the throne (then) can be a suspect. It is mind boggling why these remains can not be examined. Why is it that the Queen can decide this. It is of historic importance is it not.

@savantianprince 11 жыл бұрын

I have to agree that Henry VIII was insecure.. at the times of the Tudors, I can understand why. On the other hand, he may have been narccissitic. Modern psychology, he may have suffered from the Odipus complex.

@emilyflotilla931 6 ай бұрын

I vote for narcissistic.

@michaelahern9883 8 жыл бұрын

If he had been a football fan his team would have been millwall 😅

@tropicsgoddess 11 жыл бұрын

They (The Plantagenets) definitely did. But Henry VIII wasn't the only one that did what he could to keep himself in power. The Tudors had a weaker claim to the throne and Henry VII did his part in taking them out and Yorkists to keep his throne. But in Henry VIII's case it was also out of revenge from the scathing paper Cardinal Reginald Pole wrote about his religious policies (and because Henry VIII couldn't touch him due to his exile). He even tried (and failed) with having Pole assassinated.

@davidbooth3285 3 жыл бұрын

Lucy Worsley called him the English Stalin,he too killed everyone around him!

@annwilliams6438 4 жыл бұрын

Brought up an intelligent, well educated but highly spoilt brat who was doted on by the women of the family. Surrounded by the knowledge that his father was basically a royal nobody by blood but top dog by violent battle and at some stage of his young life in terror of a rebelling hoard. Raised as a second son and intended for the church, but put on a throne before 20 as a strong, fit, good looking youngster that everyone around him thought was a new Demi-God. Desperate for a son as his father had had to fight for his crown and no woman had successfully been queen regent before... Wife keeps popping out kids that die and no wonder he starts questioning what is going on. Then he crashes off his horse and bumps his head badly. Now there is an already uptight, paranoid, aging, son less king with brain damage who now has no impulse control. So no surprises what happened. It probably would have better for all around him if he had died the day of his brain injury.

@CaitlinSk 13 жыл бұрын

The sound is terrible!! It too low!!

@sawleo 13 жыл бұрын

@squeakybauer I quite agree. The requirement to comment is a knowledge of. Indeed, beyond Philippa Gregory, there are lay people who study history and have a deep understanding and appreciation of historical figures. This notion of "experts" obscures and gives short shrift to the knowledge of others, unfortunately.

@cockspurvsor5495 13 жыл бұрын

Enjoyable discussions by the Historic Royal Palaces here. Came across this by accident but am glad I did. I will seek out other commentaries. I now love History and the story it weaves. Only wished I paid more attention at school. (Terrible teaching of the subject back then)

@christinedarrock8486 5 жыл бұрын

Does Brett ever blink?

@Lornicopia 13 жыл бұрын

I also imagine that the dissolution of this backup plan created a major crisis accompanied by personal emotional losses that contributed to his sense of insecurity for his legacy and for the future of his nation.His behavior certainly became more radical and desperate after this loss.

@FlowerChild65 12 жыл бұрын

@HistoricRoyalPalaces Well who would have guessed after The Other Boleyn Girl and how she characterized poor Anne. It frightens me to think of her teaching anyone.

@happybkwrm 14 жыл бұрын

@lilythepink123 I can't believe her interpretation of Elizabeth I as a weak woman who was ruled by Cecil would be taken seriously.

@dwightschrute900 2 жыл бұрын

Elizabeth the I was a sociopath.

@LIBltdProductions 12 жыл бұрын

this is really helpful

@AviationGuy787 4 ай бұрын

Crazy how this is the first comment in over a year, and I got sent here from homework

@popazz1 13 жыл бұрын

I guess all anyone needed to know back then was,if you pissed off the king,either get the f*ck outa dodge pdq,or run the risk of your head being seperated from the rest of you!

@janetbatchelor4429 5 жыл бұрын

Would have enjoyed much more with better sound quality.

@Sadie228 14 жыл бұрын

It would take the greatest psychiatrist to figure out Henry VIII, lol. Interesting man for sure.

@nicksum29 12 жыл бұрын

@ompenarnie She's an academic historian. Don't be so jealous

@pahoboye 5 жыл бұрын

cant hear it

@3636Clarence 12 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, like so many posting threads, this one has veered away from the topic. The video is about Henry VIII. Somehow it spun around to religions , who got married when, etc.etc.

@arminasangma64 4 жыл бұрын

Henry v111 was a mad man man of devil Satan Lucifer

@Gobble_de_Goop 2 жыл бұрын

Borderline Personality w/Narcissistic Features. This is what I see when I read about Henry VIII.

@AmethystEyes 3 жыл бұрын

Who put Phillipa Gregory on this circuit. She is such a slanderous writer. Especially when she claims to be a feminist but then goes to slander the women she writes about.

@carlv1379 4 жыл бұрын

Check out Claire Ridgway and Clauda Boleyn for more content.

@VCYT 8 жыл бұрын

I feel sorry for henry as he never got he wanted - an he was meant to be KING !

@tudorguy1509 13 жыл бұрын

Gregory is NOT an academic historian. Her doctorate is in literature. And she is a TERRIBLE writer. Why isn't Hilary Mantel in this video? She is a great writer (and her portrait of Henry in _Wolf Hall_ is the best evocation of the king yet written).

@86Armida 11 жыл бұрын

Yes, looking at your reaction I can see how you are a more academic reliable source. They aren't absolving him, they are explaining why he thought the way he thought. No man is history is purposely evil or malicious, there's always a way of thinking, a reason behind it.

@tudorguy1509 13 жыл бұрын

Gregory is NOT an academic historian. Her doctorate is in literature. And she is a TERRIBLE writer. Hilary Mantel is a great writer (and her portrait of Henry in _Wolf Hall_ is the best evocation of the king yet written).

@Kendah1978 8 жыл бұрын

Henry the 8th was almost a typical cancerian

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@Kendah1978 7 жыл бұрын

***** he was hehe

@lovelyprittygirl 12 жыл бұрын

aren't u the most most funniest person her? first thing is that am not a christian but i just need to defend christianity and henry here.....henry didn't kill ALL his wives (only 2 and it was kind of necessary in those times considering the things his wives have done,even though i love anne boleyn).....he blamed them not coz they didn't produce male children but coz they didn't give him ANY healthy children at all and QURAN is not superior to anything nor is bible...no religious preeching here

@hindnudi347 4 жыл бұрын

4:18 ummm.. blink please

@Guderian1939 11 жыл бұрын

susannagh marry me

@carlv1379 4 жыл бұрын

Stand in line. Wait your turn.

@Mivs123 5 жыл бұрын

Bipolar then

@sherryd3299 Жыл бұрын

Nothing new here.

@Knight192 11 жыл бұрын

WHILE i appreciate her presents amongst you're experts on the passed i wonder who's idea it wasith and if you would apprise them of my appraisal if it doesn't open a box of pandoras

@margalitvanbergen6620 3 жыл бұрын

Many of these historians (not all) are getting so carried away with all the books they read about him, that they talk so self-assuredly about Henry as if they themselves grew up with him 😂😀😲😨😂 M🌷🍁🙋

@callunas 12 жыл бұрын

Do you have any credible research to back up those claims? Oh and by the way, Mohammed did marry Aisha when she was 6. Do you even read the hadith? Sahih Bukhari Vol7 Book 62 # 64 Narrated Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).

@13gladius28 7 жыл бұрын

if a women doesn't doesn't give u a son try another n another 'til u get one or two or more bcz as even every idiot knows only a man can b king!!

@maggie8586 3 жыл бұрын

What nonsense and rubbish. He was a bonafide grandiose narcissist with borderline tendencies.

@arminasangma64 4 жыл бұрын

Because of Henry V111 England transformed into Muslims country

@christinedarrock8486 4 жыл бұрын

Sounds like Trump

@AmethystEyes 3 жыл бұрын

I was just thinking that too.

@barbhorses 12 жыл бұрын

And in Proverbs it speaks about Jesus Christ(when he was still in Heaven and known as Michael) how he created (through the power of his Father YHWH or in English; Jehovah) and mentions the fountains in the deep part of the ocean which science only discovered late last century. Prophesies from the Christian Greek scriptures about the time of the end are also coming true.