This interviewer is low-key very good at his job. Sometimes interviewers get in the way, but this feller simply assisted the interview subject to move through the material, and asked questions that an informed viewer would want to know. Really great work. Obviously the content was a treat too. Thanks for sharing this, Adam Savage and talented friends!

Cool

omg I didn't notice him saying that the first time I watched this XD

i was literally saying this comment alloud then see you comment haha

I read this comment before watching the video and it made me expect to see the martians from Sesame Street!

Gabriel Mendes aaa

Gabriel Mendes a

Funny cuz Disney bought them

@@TalmoTheSell Just the Muppets.

I always thought Jim Henson and Walt Disney were similar in a way. Well, there work actually.

@@darrylcarter3691Have you ever seen Jim Henson’s Animal Jam?

@@shachiethepom Have you ever seen Jim Henson’s Animal Jam?

lol

YAYYAYAYAY

MmMMMMmmm...

“Shut your whimpering”

HhhmmmmmMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmm........ Pleaaase!

Looks more like he dosed of while Skekok next to him listens intently.

Yeah

@@ocuito4972 Have you ever seen Jim Henson's Animal Jam?

William Hayden hell yeah!

Probably old news now, but The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance (10 episode series) is coming to Netflix! Woot!

William Hayden I know I found out yesterday i'm so HYPED!

William Hayden dark crystal 2 is coming

WHAT?!?! How have I never heard of this?!?!

Chokon Mi Wang he passed away

He is named Henson not Hanson

What do you want? A comet hit the earth millions of years ago. It’s had to end

I second this, thought i was the only one recognising Rygel :D

+Cris Black It took me a while to figure out who the character was but when I did I couldn't stop smiling

I forgot that the Jim Henson Company produced Farscape.

I loved Farscape.

@@Pallekatt Same until I found this comment

I love them!

So do I!

They look so dam good in HD

fnaf if mangle was like a creepy human head

I didn't realize until now that there was a Crocodile maw incorporated into the beak designs of the Skeksis. Awesome stuff.

OMG I know you from bills chanal

Dident think I'd see you here

Exactly what I was thinking watching this. The diminished relevance of hard earned skill-sets can be tough to process and people cling to former glory. Puppeteering will always retain relevance to actual puppets, but nothing else. It's embarrassing to see. The same thing happened when I went to a screening/book signing of Ray Harryhausen... He was dismissive of computer animation and declarative about (even cranky about) the superiority of stop-motion animation for believability. It was the best technology and the best technique for a time and he was the grand master. Stop motion can still be wonderful, but it simply can never hold or deliver the power it once did. I suspect that many puppeteers embraced the time when a certain level of expression (and also believability) in fantastical props could only be achieved through puppetry. Now that computer graphics, nuanced motion-capture, and advancing robotics technologies have far surpassed puppetry as a means to breathing life into the lifeless, there's an unwillingness to recognize that some of the glory bestowed upon it in it's heyday was not inherent, but simply a matter of timing. The idea of creating a clunky mechanical glove for controlling a computer-graphic character when one could easily achieve a better effect by simply mo-capping a sock puppet is just bizarre. The insistence that the end result is in any way more communicative or more believable than through other methods is cringe-inducing. :/ Anyways, I'm still glad they're doing what they're doing because despite errant missteps like this they'll continue to add to the conversation of practical effects. Oh -- regarding it not being long before an actor can wear contacts that display a virtual character in front of them... Of course that's just AR/VR ... I would offer to you, in the context of this discussion that it won't be long before an actor's eye movements can be tracked and translated instantly into mechanical eye movements of a practical robot. I'm looking forward to that. :)

@@williamhand3896 Yet of course, people seem pretty bored by CG mega-wicked effects at this point. Mocap looks weird to people. Feels like cheating from this animator's perspective.

@@Captain_MonsterFart - I began replying to you here and came to realize I had no idea what I was originally talking about, much less how I’d be able to elaborate or engage. It’s been so long since I watched this video and commented that I had to re-watch it just now. 😝 Um… I still don’t know what I was responding to or why I had so much to say. I might’ve misunderstood something in the video, or maybe I was just wanting to express some pent-up feelings relating to CG and practical f/x… I’m seriously at a loss. I think there’s great value in any approach, whether it’s claymation, traditional cartoons, straight-up puppets, directly or remotely puppeted things, mechanical rigs, all variety of CG approaches, all variety of mocap, procedurally animated things… I think it all has something to offer the world when utilized deftly. So, for whatever that’s worth. -------- As far as people being tired of CG stuff, I agree. I think most CG creatures have been animated unrealistically (usually far too speedy), and HOLLYWOOD squandered the impact that it all could have had. But I don’t think that’s due to mocap… I think it’s probably poor writing and rushed (or tightly budgeted) scenes. Movement achieved by any technique can look bad once you remove frames to shoehorn it in, or substitute thoughtful choreography and storytelling with a more-is-more approach. We’ve been saturated with great looking models that are unbelievable in their behaviors and movements, so the magic that they could have had was usually lost, and it’s ubiquity sapped out a lot of wonder and surprise from even those rare occasions where it was done right. It seems to me that an intrinsic benefit of mocap is that it can quickly capture subtleties of biomechanics that animators won’t ever nail, and communicate complicated movements of a system that’s subject to real-world forces. I don’t see it being appropriate for every situation, though. Mocap wouldn’t have made sense for use in HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON, but it made perfect sense for the cats in the recent video game STRAY. Am I addressing what you were saying, or am I just rambling?

Exactly.

well, to be fair the animatronics for the FNaF movie are being made here, I guess most of those comments are kids too young to see the movie even when it comes out who don't know better.

Gil Kenan does not work at the Jim Henson company, though. These are not the FNAF animatronics.

Takashico101 I think I remember someone (the director or producer, IDK which) posting on Twitter about visiting Jim Henson's shop for inspiration. I think that's what he's referring to. And to address FNaF not changing the world, it did, just not in a good way. Scott Cawthon has good intentions, and first game was quite original and tense, but the fanbase is a disaster, and he probably doesn't realize it since he mainly interacts with Steam, Reddit, and a handful of KZfaqrs. Most of the cancer is the SFM animations & Let's Play commenters. It's a good thing Scott is motivated by religion and not greed, otherwise this situation could be a lot worse.

Could you explain how he changed the world a little more thoroughly to me? I am researching Jim Henson for a school project and I'm not sure what direction to go in. :D

What about CGI Yoda over Puppet Yoda?

Godzilla

Hell no! Puppet Yoda is way better.

Yes but not everywhere

A mix of both is great

Jan I was looking for a comment like this!

Same :)

+Tony Mo That movie scared the shizzle out of me when I was a kid. I still see why it would :D

+Coco Haha along with The Neverending story they both gave me the creeps as much as they fueled my imagination at a young age.

The mystics are my favorite puppets ever made.

Dark Crystal and Labyrinth were two of the best puppet movies I've ever seen.

I WAS THINKING THE EXACT SAME THING Rip David Bowie....

That show is too underrated

When I was a kid the baby dinosaur scared the shit out of me.

+SamDaManVLOGS I had thought the thumbnail looked like Robbie Sinclair

goddam baby Dino would make me shit my pants when I was little

+Igotbored I think that and I wish all people from the fnaf fandom would just leave the Internet

Me:see skesis Dark crystal fans: MmmmMm

Isn't it skeksis?

@@Jroobelucios Yes, they are named skeksis

I have it on DVD.

@@marthagilbert3459 i miss David bowie myself😭

acs197 *HMMM*

Fr

'A bit creepy'?! I'm a 32 year old horror fan and they TERRIFY me!

*high pitched skeksi whine*

SockBadger 24601 whats a skeksi? screw it imma look it up

They're coming back!

Henry DuRocher HMMM is my favorite part in the dark crystal

I love see that "circuits inside.

And Sesame Street as well.

true

You remind me of the babe.

William Palkow ...What babe?

Babe with the power

Corristo89 Jim Henson was alive when the digital Waldo character was created.

No One cares.

CosplayCore I'm a showbiz fan

I LOVE THE BEARS!!

+ULTRAxKILLERMAN 543 You mean Fraggle rock

Yes. I don't know how to spell it because I'm not from the 80s and 90s era

It's not whether or not your from the 80's or 90's. Many of us as children had Phonics which taught how to spell different words and provided a base for correct grammar, not you're fault

you mean your

Fraggle rock

They did a prequel series on netflix

yes.

Technically you just did

This is a pointless comment

Quit treating us like demons

I wish that was a whole series. It was definitely interesting. But I guess the creature shop can't really hand out a job every year.

Sharp Shot EFX Same here! I want that to happen but with different challenges featuring creatures for STAR WARS, The Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, Godzilla, etc. along with real-world animals, dinosaurs and other prehistoric animals and all kinds fantasy and sci-fi creatures like the Chocobo from Final Fantasy, Yoshi from Super Mario Bros., some Kaijus from Pacific Rim, the different creatures from Adventure Time, the different creatures from Gravity Falls, etc.!

Cody Denver that was a great show. You could see how things were made and see how challenging it was to create characters with such a tight budget and deadline.

straight quavers what babe?

Thingamabob Lapetus the babe with the power

straight quavers what power

Thingamabob Lapetus the power of voodoo

Voodoo?

Weird, I was seeing lots

.....

Tim Cortesi Yes, I had considered this, but it seems to me in cases where a character has a range of recognizable human-like expressions, it perforce has most of the same features, i.e. flexible lips, eyebrows, etc., so the movements, at least, would be very similar if not identical. Perhaps, as you suggest, scale is an issue, but I would think this could be calibrated in the software. I could be wrong, of course.

I think it might also be a matter of making it look sort of interesting in a surreal way, people know puppet movements aren't real of course, but they have some charm that would be impossible to replicate with real human face movements

I've heard that mocap isn't as precise as people make it out to be. You still have to clean up a lot of the models, and additionally, the characters facial expressions would be limited by the actors skill.

I would think that the digital puppet solution also works better with characters that are not necessarily human / bipeds, like if you are controlling a dinosaur for instance.

A major issue with motion capture is that (currently) it's done with a visual system, IR/colour dots on a bodysuit or face. The dots are recorded by an array of cameras and then interpolated to get 3D coordinates moving in space. The issue with this is that they're fairly inaccurate. The interpolation can get noisy, especially when dots get occluded (blocked). Keep an eye on the feet of any raw mocap data, they tend to skitter and skip around. So while mocap is good for broad movements, you'll notice that movies and games employ "motion cleanup artists" who's job it is to lock feet, remove jitter and fix occlusion issues. Meanwhile, the digital puppet rigs provide far more precise control, much like a gaming controller or mouse provides very precise control in a game. It also affords you control of additional details, like articulated ears, nose flaring, tongue, etc.